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Fly Wing H1 Autopilot Review & Flight Test 

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@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Fly Wing H1 Setup Tutorial & Tips Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_WCnYritAXI.html Learn more about the wonderful & fascinating hobby of RC helicopters: www.rchelicopterfun.com/
@Zeaiclies
@Zeaiclies 4 года назад
Love the voice for your flight modes. lol
@FlyingPanMan
@FlyingPanMan 3 года назад
Putting aside the gimmicky circle, figure 8, and inverted functions, I think the real advantage this unit gives is the ability to RTH at the flick of a switch. I tend to fly too far sometimes and become disorientated occasionally. So far, I've been lucky and managed to sort things out. However, I wouldn't need to wash so much underwear with a Return To Home switch!
@brianheaton5521
@brianheaton5521 4 года назад
"hangs in the air like dirty odor." Nice, gonna have to use that.
@Fran11784
@Fran11784 4 года назад
Thanks John, really enjoyed the review! Reminds me of the "invert switch" we had back in the 80s. I think I might try one of these...... Cheers
@GeorgePapadopoulos11
@GeorgePapadopoulos11 2 года назад
Man you live in the paradise, thanks for the video.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
Thanks for watching
@EbonySeraphim
@EbonySeraphim 4 года назад
15:58 - LOL that audio for 3D mode is hilarious.
@DemaisLucas120
@DemaisLucas120 4 года назад
This is my dream all I ever wanted, I'm tired to put my helis on the fireplace
@andersonjuniodossantos1146
@andersonjuniodossantos1146 4 года назад
Congratulations for your work!!! it was the best tutorial I found so far, I already have my controller in hand and I didn't start the assembly for lack of a better explanation, now I'm going to follow your guidelines and assemble on my T-rex450, I liked it and I'm subscribed !!!! thank you friend!!!
@123windyron
@123windyron 2 года назад
Ok john just like to mention on the flywing fw450 l to abort the rth on low battery put the switch to home then again to gps and it will then cancel the return to home. Now thats on the radio that comes with the fly wing.that was a almost crash for me in a very confined area .it happened at 36%on a 3300 4s. 100 c battery.long story short it scared the heck out of me when it took off and no controll on the sticks.
@stanwerner7484
@stanwerner7484 4 года назад
Amazing---the hobby came a long way since I was flying some 30 years ago.
@chrisrenek9152
@chrisrenek9152 4 года назад
I`m a scale flying pilot I think this would help me. And I have poor arm and hand movement .Thank you for such a good video. I am thinking about getting this. Have a good day...
@vauny24
@vauny24 4 года назад
Can you please do a full tutorial set up,
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Working on it...
@AboTurkiPro
@AboTurkiPro 4 года назад
15:58 now that's a badass Radio control 😂😂😂
@TheDigitalAura
@TheDigitalAura 4 года назад
I guess if you're crop dusting it's useful, we have boring big drones for that though. A gadget for the xbox generation I guess although I hate the 6 axis stabilization systems too as they take all the fun away. Useful for a beginner if it gets away from them unless they forget to flick the switch of course. Quick note about flying with a hand injury. I was born without my left hand, only have about 2 inches below my elbow and I learned to fly, just took determination and practice, like anything. Can't comment if it was any harder for me than a regular flyer.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Very motivational - thanks for sharing your experience🙂.
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 3 года назад
Or FPV
@mohdnihal1638
@mohdnihal1638 4 года назад
love to see the full setup video.
@johnblythe6453
@johnblythe6453 2 года назад
Well John many people give up Heli flying because of all the crashes+expense so really this is a cool bit of kit I have ordered mine from r/c motion "Europe" as bang good pain at the moment I wondered as you set-up with s-bus did you have to change the servos to do this ? as normally s-bus will only work with programme servos .great video you are the tops !!!!
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
As an instructor for almost 30 years now, the reason most beginners crash is because they don't follow a skill building, systematic ground up lesson plan, nor do they setup their helicopters correctly for learning on. There is no reason any beginner should ever crash a CP heli when learning the fundamentals correctly. If you think GPS systems like this will prevent beginners from crashing, I have a bridge to sell. Not only are the crashes almost as frequent (again because they simply don't know the basics & overfly their skill level), they are often more catastrophic because the heli is higher, moving faster & can't throttle down at low stick. All that combines to a much greater release of energy. Worst part is, it can be far away when this happens as the close in beginner safety net area where most beginners are confined to due to orientation skills (lack there of) is gone. Now they can get much higher & further away with the equivalence of a flying lawnmower they have *zero control over*. Property damage is the outcome, and another RC flying field loses its uphill battle to secure next years lease from the land owner; and even more over reaching regulations are imposed on our hobby. Look around - it's happening everywhere. It's why we don't allow GPS systems on helicopters at our field and we most certainly won't sign off any student who is relying on one to pass their beginner heli certification. Anyway with my little instructor based and loss of RC field rant over with, S-Bus will work with any type of servo. You most certainly don't need programmable servos with S-Bus RX connectivity. S-Bus is a serial communication protocol only that occurs between the RX and the flybarless system or flight controller; it has zero influence over type of servo that needs to be used. What is important with the H1 as I stated in the video is the servos are rated at high enough voltage that the H1 operates at (ie. HV servos). There are ways around that as well which I cover in the description of the H1 setup video.
@rockyyeung9893
@rockyyeung9893 5 месяцев назад
Tail bouncing seems not having trouble in inverted mode.
@AlexBongRCFunLand
@AlexBongRCFunLand 4 года назад
this is indeed good tool to help us in rc heli. now single rotor will as stable as the multi rotor drone.😄👏👍
@mlarreategui
@mlarreategui 4 года назад
Can you make a video with the complete set up of the h1 and transmitter binding and setup
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
I'll be doing a setup/configuration video of the H1 unit, but binding is a function of your specific radio system and receiver, not the H1 unit. You are not binding the H1 unit to your radio, you are binding the receiver. In short binding will not be addressed since it's radio system dependent.
@larrychamel
@larrychamel 4 года назад
I think what you are saying John is basically "a monkey can fly it." Lol I hope you and your Family are all staying Safe and Healthy my friend! Thanks for sharing another great video John. 😍👍🚁
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Yup, I'm the monkey.
@barneyrebel0123
@barneyrebel0123 4 года назад
I think like you. Learn to fly 3D the right way, then if, as you said, lose loss of hand skills, due to many different reasons, which do happen, at least you can still fly. Maybe another application would be, if you invest a lot of money into a kit, this would be like a SAFE MODE to back you up at the flick of a switch since you can turn it off and on. John I was messaging with someone on RCGroups, and they really love your videos, and might even be a friend, I don't know. But I just got into flying RC Heli's in mid April. Started with a Blade 70S RTF. IMO, best flybarless trainer FP made, and at a perfect price, so if you feel it's "Not your thing", your wallet will still be very heavy. Anyway, he helped me out quite a bit while learning FP, and made a lot of good suggestions, quoting you a lot! He got me on the right path of how to train and progress. I've flown fixed wing RC for 17 years, plus cars and boats, but I was always very hesitant about flying Heli's, as I knew they were the hardest to learn. Well, the technology is at the best I've seen yet, with that little 70S, and I couldn't resist the price. The gentleman even said, quoting you again, that "The RC controller in the RTF with the 70S, is really not bad at all, as it gives you the feel of a real type stick RC controller, and less toy like." Of course that's not verbatim, but, I understood what he meant, being a fixed wing pilot, and seeing some of the crappy "Toy Like" controllers that come in a lot of these RTF Helis. So I just wanted to thank you, and him, for suggesting to watch your vids. I'm now subscribed. BTW, I'm just about to fly my Nano S2 for the first time I received recently. I have over 100 flights on the 70S and hours of sim time, RealFlight 9, flying the 230S V2. I've bought a 230S V2 as well. But it's just going to sit in the box for a little longer, until I can fly the Nano S2 comfortably. I have no doubt I can fly the 230S V2 right now, in intermediate mode, but I would rather learn CP on the little Nano S2 first. No real 3D, some flips of course, and learning to hover inverted as well as flying it that way as well. As you can tell, I'm hooked now. And with that, like my fixed wing planes, I already own 2 Blade 70S's, the Esky 150 V2, (Just couldn't resist that little red LED in the tail when you throttle it up), the Nano S2, and the 230S V2 already. I already have my eye on 2 more. Anyway, again thank you very much!
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 3 года назад
How is it going? I also started this Hobby new last year. Started with the XK K110 and now moved on to the Omphobby m1. Cant believe you didnt get one of these babys to Start. John Also recommends them
@barneyrebel0123
@barneyrebel0123 3 года назад
@@chrisbee5481 Hi Chris, it's going great! A lot more sim time on my Real Flight 9.0 that I recently upgraded to 9.5 for free, and have been flying my 230 V2 for quite a while now, on the 3rd mode, no more training wheels, and I'm competent doing some 3d. Flips forward and backwards, stationary rolls, waterfalls, but not every trick in the book by far, and I fly 3 mistakes high when performing them, just to make sure. I'm not fully competent with flying inverted full time yet, but I'm still practicing that on both the real heli, and the sim. I don't have as much time as I used to, since the lockdown to fly, as I've started back working again a while ago now, but, I'm still very much into Heli's and feel I'm hooked for life. I've been putting a little bit away in the savings for a Blade 480 Fusion, or something comparable that have parts readily available though. I really want to fly one of the really big boys now. I have that guy on RCGroups to thank, and John as well, or I probably would've never had the courage to just buy one and start flying. By the way, if you don't have a Blade S 230 V2, they discontinued it recently, and now it's called the Blade 230 S Smart. People are having a lot of trouble with the connector on the smart battery you need to fly it, and currently there's no adapter for the proprietary plug, so you can't charge the battery with any aftermarket chargers, even the ones THEY make! The only way to fly and charge it currently is to buy the RTF version, as it comes with the crappy, yet only charger currently on the market that will charge the battery for you.
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 3 года назад
@@barneyrebel0123 i guess you are from north America (somewere on the continent). Horizon Hobby is very popular there. Guess thats why you went for the Blade. Here in Germany you get HH Blade products, but I find rather expensive. Had a blade mcpx long ago. Then I went for a trex 450. Okay, I forgot to mension the piece of crap Esky Belt CP before that. Best decision I ever made was to Start all over again after 8 years break last year. Had lots of time during lockdown. John Salt inspired me and adviced me to the k110 and M1. What I live about the K110 is its crash durability. Most time you can just pick it up and keep going. The 450 class is great. You need lots of space though. Here law regulations are sub 250g if you want to fly just about anywere. I have respect of the bigger Helis. With the micros you can just fly in your garden or park next door. They dont scare people. I never likes sims as much as just flying. With the k110 i practice rolls, flips and inverted and dint have to worry about crashing. Took me a month to get into 3d. So cheap to get one. You should try it. 😉
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 2 года назад
Small helis are harder to fly than larger models. I had a couple of wl toys V977 micro cp helis. In 6 axis mode, it’s easy. As soon as I turn off the accelerometer, the ground comes up fast! My wife bought me a blade 330s for Christmas, but can’t open it till then. In real flight 9.5 it’s much easier to fly than the blade 230s
@kartal56
@kartal56 3 месяца назад
Dear Sir This is Alp from Istanbul - Türkiye. I watched and excatly did your H1 setup video but I could not start the Align Trex 700.(I mean can not start motor and any thing else of Heli) I use orginal radio of Flywing FW450 . As you know this heli use same H1 system.What could be problem.Sorry for my English Best Regards
@cburgos2
@cburgos2 3 года назад
Imagine this now in a scale model helicopter. Now the fear of crashing it could be eliminated! Nice. What are some good resources to learn more? What aircrafts, transmitters etc can this be applied too?
@ExSkyCyclePilot
@ExSkyCyclePilot 3 года назад
I'm sixty, and built an Align 470 LP a couple of years ago, but I never fly it because my vision is poor and slow to focus, causing me to lose orientation quickly, and constantly. I've been trying to learn to fly with the Heli-X simulator, and with an old 230S. I do fine with the simulator, but my vision just will not allow me to fly the 230S, due to losing orientation constantly. Something like this would allow me to fly my 470LP.
@leonardootero7719
@leonardootero7719 4 года назад
Great review! I enjoy all your videos! Let me ask you. How do you compare the Blade 150s over the OMP ? For the money? Thank you
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
The M2 and now the new M2 EXP is/are a better quality helis (both electronics & mechanics); but, you pay more so that quality increase naturally comes with a price tag attached to it. The new M2 EXP is $280 making it only $80 more than the 150 so the price gap has narrowed. Of course, another cost savings that can't be overlooked with the 150 is the built in RX if you already fly with Speky. Personally, I'd take the M2 or M2 EXP over the 150 for the direct drive main motor technology alone, but that's just my 2 cents and personal preference.
@keithdriggers9578
@keithdriggers9578 2 года назад
Beautiful scenery John, man oh man to be able to have that view waking up in the morning gives one a sense of reverence for the all mighty!
@DesertJeff
@DesertJeff 2 года назад
Has the H1 approved any census video was put out? Have they updated its firmware, can you do coordinate of turns?
@bcflyer99
@bcflyer99 4 года назад
Amazing technology.
@charlesstevenson8751
@charlesstevenson8751 4 года назад
Yes I want to learn more about setting it up. I have a Align 500X.
@fpvtechnology837
@fpvtechnology837 Год назад
Hello John. I have the Flywing H1 for my T-Rex 470 LM I made all the settings on my helicopter and the radio control but when I want to take off the engine does not turn. My remote control is the Spektrum NX 10. There is certainly a button to assign to activate the motor but I don't know. Tutorials on RU-vid do not explain very well how to set up the H1 with Spektrum radio controls. I have spent many hours trying to get the engine to run without success. Do you have an idea? Franck from France
@RCredman69
@RCredman69 4 года назад
Great video John. A no brainer to fly with the H1. But I think it's great for scale flying. Maybe I will put this H1 gyro in my 600ESP Airwolf. Can't wait to see the set-up tutorial.
@davidclancy5787
@davidclancy5787 2 года назад
Hi I am having some trouble with this I have set the H1 unit up as per the instructions. Everything moves in the right direction pitch set at 12 deg + -but I have a problem, as I raise the throttle the motor slows down a lot. Blades are of the correct way. Stuck.
@Thechandran7
@Thechandran7 Год назад
Hi Jone i have install H1 to trex 600 recently ,everything done the same as you but collective pitch not going up for take off ,just moving around two decree in full throttle can you help me thanks
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 2 года назад
I picked up a thunder tiger raptor 50 for $40, and am scared shitless to fire it up. Been thinking about using a beta flight controller with gps for it, but I’d rather get something made for helis
@michel3777
@michel3777 2 года назад
hello minimum number of channels on a radio to install the h1 thank you to you
@sotheamam1244
@sotheamam1244 5 месяцев назад
Hi will H1 work on trex 500x with spektrum transmitter and receiver
@CRUZROYHelicopters
@CRUZROYHelicopters Год назад
hey john ..love your content...i have the 380 alzrc and the swash is backwards from the 500 and i had to change Left and right servo connections to get swash moving right.... do you think that ok ???
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
Consult your FBL manual/setup wizard, it will say what is and isn't okay for servo connectivity.
@ace-gc5xm
@ace-gc5xm 4 года назад
yeah do a setup video
@JuniorAngel
@JuniorAngel 2 года назад
Hi. First of all, very nice video. My question is if you need to take a laptop and "dance" to calibrate the system yet. I've read that they were preparing an app for phones to eliminate this dance. Thanks
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
Sorry, no idea as I'm not Fly Wing Tech Support. I only know of Laptop connectivity on the H1.
@AirSniper-SongV
@AirSniper-SongV Год назад
Hi John, What’s your final setting under GPS mode to stop the tail from bouncing. I’m about to install H1 system on my 505.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
As stated in the description, a compromised setup. I don't remember the exact setting because I got rid of the H1 shortly after and have the Ikon2 back on that heli.
@Leimin81
@Leimin81 3 года назад
“Sh!t is about to get real” 😂 Been reading your website from 10 years ago when I first learnt to fly. Came back to flying recently and found your videos. Awesome stuff as usual. Thanks John. 👍🏼
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
Thanks back 👍
@mikesrcgarage
@mikesrcgarage 4 года назад
That's absolutely awesome tech! I flew helis for years all flybars never really got good at 3d. A friend of mine years ago would tease me, yeah I'll wait till the tech to fly autonomous comes out and I'll fly circles around you with a push of a button! Dang it's here! Lol, why when you flew inverted why did the tail bob go away? 🤔 Great stuff but I'm with you on the it teaches you nothing but bad habits! All my helis still have flybars! 👊😎👍
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Not sure? The IMU sensor inside the H1 is apparently floating so perhaps while inverted, the dampening characteristics of the isolation foam the IMU is attached to changed but that is just a wild a** guess. I too am still a fan of trusty flybars even though I only have a few flybared machines left in the fleet. No programming, no PID tuning, no compatibility BS, hassle free & robust - build the heli, setup your pitch & throttle curves, go flying.
@mikesrcgarage
@mikesrcgarage 4 года назад
@@Rchelicopterfun Interesting and sounds like a good theory to me. One day I will get a flybarless unit, might get me back to flying regularly! Thanks buddy, have a great day!
@lengaultois132
@lengaultois132 2 года назад
No one seems to be addressing the elephant in the room... The required voltage for the H1 is incompatable with all my 4.8v tail servos. What would happen to the H1 if you run it on 5v. I know what will happen to my tail servos running 6.4v.. smoke and very likely an expensive crash.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
*What elephant?* We have been running lower voltage tail servos on our RC helicopters when using higher voltage RX packs & BEC's for at least 20 years by using a voltage regulator on the tail servo. You can purchase them inexpensively, or build your own for dirt cheap. Lots of info on it and I do cover this in the H1 setup video in the description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_WCnYritAXI.html *What happens if you power the H1 with only 5V?* No idea. I presume you would experience processor restarts, if it/they even boot up at all. The real elephant in the room is the *danger that all GPS enabled collective pitch helicopters pose to the future of our hobby.* We all know the mess the mindless GPS droners have done to the hobby of RC aviation, and that is with low energy quad copters. Imagine the same entitled pricks going on FPV hero missions with a 700 size heli putting out 8HP at the rotor shaft spinning razor sharp carbon blades. That's the big mother f-ing elephant in the room every RC aviation enthusiast should be concerned over; not the need to add a simple & inexpensive servo voltage regulator or a couple 20 cent HER 503 or 1N4001 rectifying diodes on an old low voltage tail servo. 🙂
@andre-dx4yw
@andre-dx4yw Год назад
im currently learning helis from fixed wing and bought your book[ thought my printer was gonna overheat🤣] and i also have the accurc2 with vr, im trying to give myself the best chance at successfully learning to fly helis, as for this, its a great unit but i will stick with my dji mavic for hands off/on dumb fun, i can definately see a market for this and maybe when im skilled enough to do my intended scale/ sports flying i might get one for lazy days. thanks for the work you put in to get us noobs in the air!
@ElecTrev
@ElecTrev 4 года назад
Thank you John for your very prompt replies. One last question: do you use governor mode on the ESC? Thanks
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Not on this particular bird.
@anthonysmith5979
@anthonysmith5979 3 года назад
Bought the fw 450 with the h1 gps would like to get the Roban uh1 army huey 800 size when they become available, they recommend the Bavairian BestX and I see it's set up has what's missing in the H1
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
The H1 would be a horrid system in a big scale ship. I too would recommend the Bavarian Demon 3X - they are one of the best FBL systems for scale in my opinion. I've got a 3X in my Roban 700 super scale AS350 and it flies like a dream. You need lots of cyclic pitch filtering / derivative gain on big scale helis with lots of boom mass (which the Roban 800 UH1 most certainly does) or you will get horrible porpoising. The H1 will porpoise in a standard pod & boom heli just by looking at it the wrong way. The 3X however can handle it no problem.
@CRUZROYHelicopters
@CRUZROYHelicopters 3 года назад
can you show how to setup frsky radio to helicopters, nothing on fros on X10s
@djzwo5394
@djzwo5394 3 года назад
Hello, I have exactly the same problem as in your video, the helicopter wobbles and rocks like crazy. In your video they say the same thing, flying beautifully is something else. Do you have an explanation for this? Because for me only the 550 T-Rex does that, my 3 Logo 550se don't do that and stand like a ONE
@t.s.thomas02
@t.s.thomas02 Год назад
It takes a WEAK heli pilot, and makes him an OK helicopter-pilot, BUT, it also takes an EXCELLENT helicopter-pilot, and makes him into an OK helicopter-pilot. I'm thinking it'll still be a good thing to put in a scale helicopter. Maybe by now, 2-years on, this thing has some of your tuning issues addressed.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
Correction - it takes a weak heli pilot and makes him/her *appear* to be a competent flyer; it certainly won't make anyone a better pilot. 100% correct that it will erode good skills over time.
@nhsledfreak
@nhsledfreak 3 года назад
Hello Sir, I purchased the H1 for my Trex 470L. I'm a bit confused on supplying power to the unit. Can I not plug directly from my ESC into the unit? I will be using the Paladin PL18 which came with the receiver that they suggest using for this H1 setup. If you cannot connect it to the ESC I'm confused on how it gets power. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh my Trex 470L is using the stock ESC that came with the kit so I believe voltage is in the safe range.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
I cover powering connectivity in more detail in the H1 setup video I did: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-tips.html Yes, you can certainly power it from the BEC in your ESC (that's how I have it powered in the video). Just make sure your ESC's BEC output voltage is within spec as to what the H1 needs to operate at (6.4 to 8.5V).
@massimocorradini5692
@massimocorradini5692 Год назад
hI, I have a T-rex600 Nitro. I have already bought a H1 autopilot too. I need to know before mounting H1, where to put the throttle servo...i mean if i have to put it into receiver or into the 'esc' of H1. Thanks a lot in advanced for helping me.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
No idea how you could make the H1 work with a nitro? Fixed throttle output with no control over idle or starting throttle position - can't see how it could possibly work never mind not trusting the H1 in a high vibration environment. Contact Fly Wing is all I can suggest.
@vauny24
@vauny24 Год назад
Hi John How do you cure the tail bob in GPS mode, in your vid whilst flying in 3d mode you had no tail bob, then when you switched it back to GPS mode tail bob returned, you said it could be the accelerometer, are you referring to the (fixed breaking force) function or (Flight speed) function been set to high in the H1 setup wizard. I have tail bob in GPS mode on my align Trex 600 in forward and backward motion. Be interesting to know if you solved the problem in software setup settings. Thanks
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
I cover this question in the description below the video.
3 года назад
Is it better than the "old" Naza-H???
@ipadize
@ipadize 3 года назад
seems to be pretty cool, but i will stick to my vbar neo with vbar control :)
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
I would agree!
@johnclarke254
@johnclarke254 4 года назад
Hi John. Please, please do a full setup video.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Looks like I'm doing a setup video this week. 🙂
@michaeltrager4381
@michaeltrager4381 Год назад
Hi John, How would you rate this product the Fly Wing H1? Is it a quality product (like my Mikado Mini V-Bar), and have them improved the firmware since you first had it??
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
Hi Michael, Not sure I would even try to compare the H1 to any proper FBL system. The V-Bar is a proper and wonderful performing flybarless system, it runs circles around the H1 or any other GPS autopilot in terms of good heli feel and performance. In contrast, the H1 is a GPS autopilot system that turns a potentially dangerous RC helicopter into a mindless drone. Basically giving people with no flying skills at all, the ability to fly a very dangerous helicopter with no training. Yes, I hate these GPS things on collective pitch helicopters because I see how they are destroying our hobby from a legality standpoint. We won't even allow them at our field anymore, but too little too late, MAAC lost it's Transport Canada exemptions this past weekend and I now have no more flying field. Thanks entitled droners! No idea if turd wing improved their setup software, I removed the H1 from this heli and put the Ikon back on within a month because I wanted a good flying helicopter again.
@rcpilots1291
@rcpilots1291 3 года назад
Brilliant explanatory video. Initially I was super excited, but after consideration it’s not for me. As you explain it can develop real bad habits. It should suit a different segment of the Rc market because the system presents little challenge , even for newbies like me that are building our skills at a super slow rate but finding it hugely rewarding in the process. Happy flying
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
Yep, the RC heli instructor in me hates this technology and what negative impact it has the potential to do to our hobby; yet the nerd in me sure appreciates the technology & science involved. 🙃 Happy flying your way too.
@rcpilots1291
@rcpilots1291 3 года назад
John Salt - ya the ultimate paradox 🤪
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 3 года назад
Hi John, ever tried to FPV a heli? This H1 unit seems perfect to combine
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
I'm no longer into FPV of any sort. Personally found it boring, and it's also illegal here now unfortunately.
@heli-man-
@heli-man- 3 года назад
I had some emails with H1 I was trying to use JR XG11 they said not supported just 2 words I tried the new owners of JR they were willing to talk and share their software with H1 so I passed the email along and they were Dam rude with the reply saying JR is an ancient technology that went bankrupt and they will not waste time and money talking to them so I felt impelled to inform them that JR Propo is run by a new company that took the name as they used to work with JR H1 replied ok thank you for that information, so going on that I don’t think they care what anybody has to say
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
FlyWing's communication etiquette notwithstanding , I will try to explain H1's receiver compatibility one more & hopefully FINAL time! H1's compatibility has NOTHING to do with what radio system is being used or the specific spread spectrum protocol that is being used; it has do with the RX connectivity method - ie. how the H1 gets the channel positions from the RX. It as you know, doesn't support traditional PWM inputs. As I've stated TOO MANY times now, the H1 ONLY accepts SBUS and PPM inputs. These are both common communication signal outputs found in many of today's 2.4 GHz spread spectrum processor controlled digital receivers, no matter the brand or RF protocol being used. SBUS serial communication protocol is also supported by most of today's good FBL systems (Ikon, Bavarian Demon, Spirit, V-Bar) and even a growing number of inexpensive micro heli's with their built in FBL flight systems. In short it's nothing different or unique to the H1. This is simply the direction things are going as the technology evolves. Just because FlyWing are unwilling or more likely, unable to jump through engineering & software design hoops to ensure their system is compatible with every possible RX connectivity method under the sun doesn't mean they "don't care what anyone has to say." That's a hyperbolic statement based on subjective assumption. The more likely reality is that the H1 is a low cost GPS autopilot heli system, unfortunately being built for the masses. To keep it that way while working with most radio systems on the market, they logically chose to use a serial communication BUS and out of the various serial bus protocols out there, SBUS is by far the most popular & common. Now, I have no idea what (if any) specific DMSS protocol receivers JR Propo had/has that have an SBUS serial com port? I was still flying with JR's DSM2/X RF protocol when JR turned off the lights, and thus never explored their DMSS RF protocol RX offerings afterward; nor have I kept up with what JR/DFA offers now since I made the switch to OpenTX. A quick peak at DFA's receiver section shows a number of DMSS RX's with a serial communication protocol called XBUS output, but I doubt XBUS is compatible (packet refresh rate & pulse positions I'm sure are different). Another very quick & dirty Google search for "DMSS receiver with SBUS" DID PRODUCE a few aftermarket options. Specifically Orange and Corona (not the virus variety) & there could be more. In short, there appear to be DMSS SBUS RX options out there that will work, if you go with an aftermarket receiver.
@doboy861
@doboy861 2 года назад
That video was awesome! You have more Guts than I would I guess if I flew as long as you have I would try it. But to hear you laugh so hard was great. Also the idea that someone with a disability could be able to fly again would be awesome. The feeling of doing what they used to it would get them back outdoors. Great video.
@carlos64030
@carlos64030 4 года назад
That is a freakin' amazing piece of tech for an extremely cheap price! Great video, John.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Agreed.
@amiraldz1970
@amiraldz1970 4 года назад
hello the H1 can run on a gasser trex700
@MegaControltv
@MegaControltv 2 года назад
I have a problem .. the H1 in the box say 5v-8.4v but in the manual say 2-6s ...What voltage I can use ?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
@MegaControl - The H1 works at 6.0 to 8.4VDC. Your RX and servos also have to work at that voltage. The 2S to 6S is what flight battery voltage range the H1 can monitor through the monitor power plug. I never use that feature, so don't know how well it works. I ran the H1 in this heli at 7.5V (using HV servos of course).
@MegaControltv
@MegaControltv 2 года назад
​@@Rchelicopterfun thanks John for your help! :D Now I understand. But I have a the problem, my ESC have not BEC :D I need connect by "Y" conector a side with ESC an another side with power supply 7.4 .. but I think this "Y" conector must be have a resistance ?
@eb-fq9jq
@eb-fq9jq 4 года назад
Hola buenas tardes conoces algún vídeo que esté en español
@rbort07
@rbort07 3 года назад
note that while inverted it didn't bee bop around at all...??
@rl2rem621
@rl2rem621 3 года назад
Sorry, one more question. I have this set up and ready to go. In testing I noticed that in GPS mode with a green light, when I move the swash sticks on the Transmitter, nothing happens. Tail moves, swash moves in normal mode, but not GPS mode. Is this normal ??
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
Yes, the unit is in total control in GPS mode.
@crazygravy437
@crazygravy437 3 года назад
Wow this is what I need. Totally not interested in learning properly. Tired of wasting money on crash & repair. I just want to fly no stress. Thanks for the alternative.
@tomoprime217
@tomoprime217 2 года назад
Getting here 2 years late, but I guess not everyone has access to live help when starting out. It would have been awesome to see regular manual flight in unison with autopilot, where auto recovery only kicks in while losing control in that you must let go of the sticks to level out. Another option is to have the GPS used like an invisible fence for a number of reasons.
@tomoprime217
@tomoprime217 2 года назад
I was trying to say these would be nice to have features used towards learning instead of this tech leads to developing bad habits and or only helps the handicapped yada.
@joseriverjr6720
@joseriverjr6720 7 месяцев назад
Hello Jhon ! can you check into the new Gps H1 upgrade..just a short video how to upgrde..Thanks..
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 7 месяцев назад
Sorry, but I got rid of the H1 shortly after reviewing it in this video. Way too many bad habits were forming, actually surprised just how quickly they were forming. 🙃
@Pitoshi812
@Pitoshi812 4 года назад
Hello, Mr. Salt. Several years ago, when I am a beginner, I bought two of your eBooks. One is "The RC Helicopter Tips & Setup eBook", the other is "How to build a training gear for RC helicopter". Both worked good for me!. Thank you very much. Now I am not a beginner but an intermediate pilot. Anyway, I have a question. I got H1 GPS and equipped TREX 450 with it. I always check my helicopters using my turning table ("Lazy Susan") BEFORE the maiden flight. As usually, I checked my TREX 450 with H1 GPS. When the collective pitch is positive, the TREX 450 locks its tail completely. When the collective pitch is negative, however, it does not lock its tail, turns anticlockwise. And it flies uneventfully at least when it is NOT inverted (ie., the main rotor is upside and the skid is downside). I am afraid that something catastrophic occurs when it flies inverted. I have not yet tried an inverted flight using H1 GPS. I want to ask you if it is normal that my TREX 450 turns anticlockwise on Lazy Susan when the collective pitch is not positive but negative. Or I hope that you give me an advisory comment.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Hi Hitoshi. Have you tried it without being strapped down? With these fully autonomous flight controllers (actually even normal flybarless systems), the heli HAS to be able to float and bob as it naturally would in the air without any movement restriction. The H1 is looking for feedback from ALL the sensors and if the heli is strapped down to something, it's not going to get that feedback correctly and will do strange things - cyclic and tail drift among them. If you have tried it untethered and you are still experiencing yaw drift, you can contact on my website if you wish for further discussion since I don't sort complex technical issues in the comments section of RU-vid.
@Pitoshi812
@Pitoshi812 4 года назад
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you, John, for your quick answer. I will see your website soon.
@brianheaton5521
@brianheaton5521 4 года назад
Looks like a nice little unit. Seems to have some bugs, but overall nice.
@Soryt
@Soryt 4 года назад
Amazing system , good alternative for the Naza H system in scale helicopters ( as rescue ) , need some updates fore sure . Thanks for review 👍👍
@calibermix8159
@calibermix8159 4 года назад
why do you need it for scale helis if you only do boring circles in the sky like old man ?
@Soryt
@Soryt 4 года назад
caliber because i am , so what ? And what can you do to have some fun ? Comment on other people 🤮
@frankpirrone6032
@frankpirrone6032 2 года назад
I know how to fly collective but I am looking for something with rescue for those rare moments when I get confused or distracted. Which unit do you recommend?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
Any good FBL system with rescue. Ikon, Bavarian Demon, Maxx, BeastX, Vbar... I go over them and what to look for in a flybarless system on my best flybarless system page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/best-flybarless-system.html
@davidsettles5706
@davidsettles5706 3 года назад
John, have you looked at the newer code. 1.75 is out there. What are your thoughts? Any better? Thanks for your hard work.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
If you've taken the time to look at the 1.75 setup assistant, you will see it's essentially unchanged. Only a few pre-set value tweaks; certainly, nothing earth shattering. Still can't save your individual setups, and they still haven't decoupled the cyclic pitch and roll axis gain settings which were my two biggest critiques.
@charliebrown238
@charliebrown238 2 года назад
15:57 "Shit, is about to get real!" I absolutely lost my shit when i heard that! Is that something you programed into it? Or does it do it by itself? And what part actually does that? Is it the transmitter?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
It's part of the OpenTX voice/sound pack for the specific radio (transmitter) I'm using - yes it's programmed into the radio like all the voice call outs are. Voice/sound pack is called "Amber" (google search). She has some good sayings 😄
@mohdsaifulmohdsaid852
@mohdsaifulmohdsaid852 2 года назад
will it works on tt raptor 50 heli?
@bobbyboy1962
@bobbyboy1962 3 года назад
Great videos. I have been given a raptor 50 that i originally setup new about 10 years ago or so. Would something like this work in a heli that is nitro ?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
electric only
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 3 года назад
Been using a NAZA-H for several years. This looks much better.
@Mr_Trixsta
@Mr_Trixsta 4 года назад
Fantastic review John. I recently purchased the FW450 which included the H1 already setup. All I had to do is a calibration using the software and it fly’s as it’s intended.
@robparrington669
@robparrington669 4 года назад
Same for me, great Heli and the H1 flight controller is very good
@GhostGrus
@GhostGrus 3 года назад
Calibration every time you start?
@jimmym2719
@jimmym2719 3 года назад
Wow! Interesting Test! Always wanted to try Dji Naza H. Well, being able to fly 3D already your computer controlled flight really looks unreal & robotic as u mention. Maybe there’s a tweak somewhere to make it more subtle. Thanks for sharing bro💕
@TheBeastFPV
@TheBeastFPV 4 года назад
Yes we whould love you to do a video on setting it up please
@paulclarke165
@paulclarke165 4 года назад
Would love to see a full setup video please
@fox5136
@fox5136 20 дней назад
Hi John Would you be so kind to advise whether this system would fit on an omp m2 helicopter? I have fit a flybarless system on a helicopter long ago.Thanks in advance.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 19 дней назад
@fox5136 Too big. Pretty much 400 and larger machines.
@fox5136
@fox5136 19 дней назад
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you👍
@CRUZROYHelicopters
@CRUZROYHelicopters 3 года назад
how do you program the voices when you hit switches ?? please help
@hermankoji
@hermankoji 3 года назад
i fly heli with torque tube and belt drive. some how belt drive does the up and down tail boom shakes. not sure on yours heli.
@Sam-gr8pl
@Sam-gr8pl 2 года назад
GPS rth will be work while you are flying inverted? Failsafe?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
No.
@michaelmoore4378
@michaelmoore4378 Год назад
Hi John, would you install fly wing H1 unit on $5000 scale heli in your opinion.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun Год назад
Never; it was bad enough putting it on an $800 heli. 😄
@passinthru4328
@passinthru4328 4 года назад
Good review John. Have to say this thing has no appeal for me as it would take all the fun and challenge (and fear) out of flying a collective pitch heli.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Yes I agree too. Most of us fly CP for the engagement & challenge - this removes much of that. As I said in the video, I see it as a wonderful aid however for folks who have lost the ability to fly for some health reason. I know a few good pilots that after having strokes had to shelve their birds, these things might help them get them flying again.
@passinthru4328
@passinthru4328 4 года назад
​@@Rchelicopterfun Yes, that alone would be a very good thing. Who knows, they may yet build in the improvements you suggest. Will have to keep an eye on this one.
@armiestone
@armiestone 4 года назад
Can you advice if this will be good on a 90size gas helicopter like a gsr260s? I had an ace one autopilot but the imu is bad thinking or replacing it with this since the price is very OK
@reginaldmcnab3265
@reginaldmcnab3265 3 года назад
I saw a video where someone said the tail bobbing can be corrected by increasing the Head-speed to 92 percent gain
@1948bluesman
@1948bluesman 3 года назад
did you sort the tail bobbing,mine is doing it and i need to correct it,any info much appreciated.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
This question (among other common ones) is addressed in the H1 setup video I did in the description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_WCnYritAXI.html
@RcBachelor
@RcBachelor 3 года назад
Hi- Great Video - What do you think, can I use it for a 500 TRex/HK500 Flybarless Scaler? Which PRE SETUP can I use? I also fly with Horus 12S Open Tx Mode 2. Possible to send a prg file from Open Tx for that Heli?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
I would personally not use an H1 in scale heli. Too robotic, too artifical in scale response, no way to turn the pitch gain down (even more critical on scale due to substantial lengthwise mass increase), and no room in the tail boom for the GPS pod. Just a few limitations that come to mind - there are more. I don't share my OPTX files because every heli is different in mechanical setup so file sharing just causes more questions & problems than it answers. I show exactly how to setup & configure the H1 in the H1 setup video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_WCnYritAXI.html
@Knightfire66
@Knightfire66 2 года назад
yeah now finally rc heli are catching up with quadcopter drones
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
Let's hope not. The last thing our hobby needs right now is being grouped into that segment. Add in the dangers that go hand in hand if the masses start flying much more dangerous RC helicopters with zero skill.
@nled
@nled 3 года назад
Wondering if you were able to get rid of the tail bounce?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
@NL Ed - Yes. I go over what I did in detail in the description box. A few others have also commented center of gravity is absolutely critical. Mine was already spot on, so CG wasn't the issue in my case; but it's something to be aware of - just like any heli build. 🙂
@nled
@nled 3 года назад
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks as I didn't read far enough.
@amirsharoni
@amirsharoni 2 года назад
hi john, would you say that flying a gps helicopter is good for begginers, while only using it in emergncy cases (for saving the heli from crashing)?
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
Not good at all. GPS collective pitch helicopters won't help teach a thing - they do the exact opposite - introduce lots of bad forming habits that will be very difficult to break. I have an extensive article on my website that covers this in detail: www.rchelicopterfun.com/are-rc-helicopters-hard-to-fly.html Regardless, the H1 is not meant to be used as a "rescue" or "bail out." It won't work for that at all as it was never designed for that purpose. If you want a rescue feature (ie. self level with a momentary collective pump), get a good flybarless system that has a rescue feature and learn from the ground up with a tame, learning to fly setup so you are developing useful & important flying skills every second you are spooled up.
@amirsharoni
@amirsharoni 2 года назад
@@Rchelicopterfun ok thank you for the advice :-), can you recommand such a flybarless system with self leveling feature?, and one more question... would you recommand M2 EXP heli for begginers...?
@elty19
@elty19 3 года назад
Great review! Just wondering... If I wanted to put this on an old Raptor 30... And leave the Flybar on... Would it be OK? 😊 Wanna put the raptor back into an old airwolf body! 😊 It's so old though I'm not sure I wanna convert to Flybarless or even if that's available!
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 3 года назад
It's for flybarless only. I also wouldn't trust it in a nitro.
@ameersak
@ameersak 4 года назад
How can we connect this with Spektrum DX8 Gen2? I have purchased this and I realized it cannot be connected to spektrum transmitters. Please advise. Thanks.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
Yes it can be connected to a Speky RX with PPM or S-Bus output.
@richardmaddever2121
@richardmaddever2121 4 года назад
My channels are wrong in the software. Channel 1-4 don't match the sticks when i move them and Im not sure what to do?! Any ideas? If I move the left stick the forward/back line moves in the software...
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
The H1 uses Futaba channel mapping. CH1 aileron, CH2 elevator, CH3 throttle (collective function for the H1), and CH4 tail/rudder. You would have to reconfigure the channel outputs in your specific radio to match that assigned configuration if you are not producing those same outputs. Channel mapping within the H1 setup is non-configurable.
@김도훈-g1n
@김도훈-g1n 4 года назад
Hi John, I've got a problem with installing my new helicopter in the assistant. After I connect my laptop with fc, the led flashes red fast. Then it flashes red slowly after my radio is on. This is not the same as your video, which flashes blue steady after radio is on. The assistant shows the 'Install new helicopter' interface at pre-connect status, but it disappears when fc is connected. Really appreciated if you tell me the solution.
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 4 года назад
sorry, I have no idea???
@johncgibson4720
@johncgibson4720 3 года назад
The robot cursed at you at 15:58 .
@djlouis2150
@djlouis2150 2 года назад
Hey will the H1 work on my omphobby m2 explore helicopter
@Rchelicopterfun
@Rchelicopterfun 2 года назад
As I stated in the video @3:55 the very smallest you could likely fit it is a 300 and even that would be a very tight fit. Way too big for an M2.
@djlouis2150
@djlouis2150 2 года назад
Ok thanks
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