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Ford 331 Stroker Dyno Testing- afr 165 heads and 3 different intakes 

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Small block ford 331 stroker on the engine Dyno testing some different intake manifolds on a mild built for boost 331!

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@scottfurch8378
@scottfurch8378 4 года назад
Hay CHP love too see actual results in testing on these Ford aftermarket & stock HO intakes. Really good data for Ford fans . Thank you
@brucebell7623
@brucebell7623 4 года назад
Checknout "Big Dogs Porting Performance " here on RU-vid and Facebook. Phenomenal Porting Stage 2/3 at very reasonable cost.
@19jody72
@19jody72 4 года назад
@@brucebell7623 he is doing my heads and intake. Dude is king for us budget guys. His port work on flow numbers are unreal for the price! Kills any intake on the market!!!
@craphittingthefan9445
@craphittingthefan9445 4 года назад
Thanks for taking the time and effort for our interest of knowing what each intake does.
@Rocksoup77
@Rocksoup77 4 года назад
Great information. Nice to see this kind of testing.
@robertwest3093
@robertwest3093 Год назад
I could watch Ford 5.0 based videos ALL day long!! I'm happy to see that CHP is still heavily involved in the old pushrod 5.0 Windsor engine! I still can't bring myself to convert to the overhead cam based engine. I like the brute off idle on up torque that pushrod engines deliver.
@refiii9499
@refiii9499 4 года назад
This engine would have been so much better with AFR 185 heads too. Great pulls all together on this engine for sure.
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Agreed, after this the customer sold the 165's and has us install 195's since they will work better with the supercharger.
@robertgambaro545
@robertgambaro545 4 года назад
"Now I could throw a socket in there....that's for you Ed". LMFAO!! My wife and I were watching this vid and when that part came up she's like, wtf does that mean? I laughed my ass off because I knew what it meant and who it was for. Holy shit, that was funny AF! Great Vid guys, loved the manifold comparison, now if you could just test a stock manifold that could fit a 7/8 socket, we could compare it to the Holley SM2 :)
@DemonDurango
@DemonDurango 3 года назад
Great information thank you for sharing I’m trying to figure what set up I want in my foxbody.
@doon714
@doon714 4 года назад
Great video and thank you. And Manton pushrods Is the only thing I will ever use.
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Al is the man at Manton!
@7REDDRACO7
@7REDDRACO7 4 года назад
i love that it doesn't have a blower, not everyone has a blower, but some have setups like this. Ibelieve that a 302 needs the holley for a fuel injection intake for air because you can use 11 to 1 with a long rod and big cam and the AFR 186cc heads, i believe it works with a vic jr. or other nice intake well, maybe not the funnel web, but maybe an epoxied funnel web with narrower yet taller runners. my long rod 5.7" rod destroker 11.5 to1 MAHLE piston ,293 cid is going to use Trick Flow 11 R-SERIES 190cc heads, custom ground cam based on a Lunati solid roller high efficiency cam with lobes for a mopar, with mopar sized hydraulic roller lifters, and either a ported performer RPM or weiand tunnel ram with epoxied narrowed and ported taller runners. this is a street engine, its going into a 1981 camaro that has fox body tubular suspension front and rear and an 8.8 axle., the transmission a 5 speed, manual rack and pinion steering. The brakes are a manual pump manual master cylinders disc brakes super long pedal setup, levered all the way top of where the dash would be, with the rod closer to a gearbox fulcrum generating thousnads of pounds of pressure, the components are chromoly steel and fastened to a tubular frame with foot box. 40 gallon fuel tank, maybe 2 or more of them.
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 4 года назад
That first combo I wish Ford had put into every F150 in 1996.
@sswcubes
@sswcubes 3 года назад
Damn, reminds me of my build. 347 with afr 185s and edelbrock rpm 2 intake manifold w/70mm tb . Then switched over to the holley systemax but didn't dyno. Would have made some power but i ordered the wrong cc chamber (72cc) which killed my compression. Cam 224/230 - 544/544 @ 112 ls. Made 323 rwh through the T5. 1 5/8 long tubes, O/H pipe. 13.00 @ 107mph short shifting and 2.0 60ft
@guyincognito83
@guyincognito83 3 года назад
Great test, thank you. How about this same test done with a turbo.
@thefordracingpatio8088
@thefordracingpatio8088 5 лет назад
This was awesome
@NGG1983
@NGG1983 9 месяцев назад
Well this pretty much convinced me there's basically no reason to port my GT40 lower intake with my AFR 165's on my current stock bottom end build. It didn't even gain much with more cubic inches that would obviously want more air than my 302. It did carry that peak power out to higher RPM but I think i'll just leave it un-ported and save some $ there. If i ever go 331 with a rebuild eventually that Systemax looks like just the ticket, great intake.
@crazyhorseracing6130
@crazyhorseracing6130 3 года назад
What size injectors were you using?? Thanks for the videos!
@10roadblock
@10roadblock 4 года назад
gr8 video CHP...I'm doing the same build can I use a ford e303 mild camshaft along with afr 165 heads also did you guys used stud or pedestal mounted 1.6 or 1.7 roller rockers.....and was the internal external balanced and if external balanced what weight did the flywheel and harmonic balanced used in build
@afri1414
@afri1414 5 лет назад
Nice!
@Diondo26
@Diondo26 4 года назад
is that on Pump gas and how much max timing do you run on this engine??
@racinginsd
@racinginsd 2 года назад
You guys wouldn't happen to remember what size spacer you ran to get the Holley systemax 2 intake to clear those valve covers.
@Bobby4v
@Bobby4v 3 года назад
Im looking into buying your ford 331 pro street short block. My set up will be identical to the one in this video. AFR 165s and a systemax intake.. i havent decided on what cam yet. I will be running a vortech si trim around 9 psi. What precautions can i take to be easy on the block? Like not rev over 6k rpm? It will be tuned on holley terminator x, which is up and running currently on a stock 302 bottom end. Thanks in advance and hoping to do business with you guys soon.
@MyBCAM
@MyBCAM 5 лет назад
Love that you guys do these videos for your customers. If you ever get a chance I would love to see the trickflow "box R" intake vs the holley high ram intake on a naturally aspirated windsor. There is just no dyno tests out there on these two intakes right now?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
Might do that on a 427SBF we have
@MyBCAM
@MyBCAM 5 лет назад
@@coasthighperformance7908 That would be awesome!! Can't wait! Thanks guys!!
@buildmodrepeat2875
@buildmodrepeat2875 3 года назад
You guys should make more vids
@brandonknight7240
@brandonknight7240 11 месяцев назад
Im building a 302 with a 331 stroker kit do u think the icon pistons sent with the kit will hit the valves in the twisted wedge 170 heads
@xXBurntBaconXx
@xXBurntBaconXx 2 года назад
I have a buddy with a 333 Stroker engine in his 67 Fastback. It was custom built, he can't show me a build sheet. He keeps quoting me 500hp but then I saw the dyno sheet and it made 470hp without accessories. Does this seem like a realistic output for a 333 stroker on pump gas?
@erikturner5073
@erikturner5073 4 года назад
Actually you can't beat the BARGAIN of the explorer intakes!! With careful porting they are great! I can't justify spending the overpriced cost people are asking for the USED GT40 INTAKES! The marginal improvement the GT40 and the so called improved looks don't Justify the extra cost! I'd spend the extra money on the legendary Systemax intake or a nice Trickflow. AT LEAST I'd have some extra room for growth. Just my 2 cents. Either way great to see the results!!
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Yessir many options out there! Glad to help
@andrewinsinga2993
@andrewinsinga2993 4 года назад
Great video I would love to see you dyno a 347 with 185afr heads and a new style edelbrook efi intake and a 75 mm throttle body, as for camshaft Something for a naturally aspirated engine on a 110 lobe separation
@chucksgarage7165
@chucksgarage7165 4 года назад
They have several 347 videos. Not the exact combo you requested, but here's one that is very impressive. . . .ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gXeqO_yekbk.html
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
We won't mind doing it but someone has to have the parts.
@dennisrobinson8008
@dennisrobinson8008 Год назад
The 205afr is closer to Chevy LS flow performance. Or tfs twr
@rongreene6180
@rongreene6180 2 года назад
I Own one love it the best
@chriscon818
@chriscon818 3 года назад
Where are you guys located?
@kennymilton7457
@kennymilton7457 2 месяца назад
Roughly how much more power would the 185 heads be worth?
@superkillr
@superkillr 4 года назад
Do you think having a shaped inlet for the throttle body would help airflow? Nobody runs without some sort of tubing and filter on those and it's the same reason you use shaped inlet when flowing cylinder heads.
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Yes, it would help slightly
@darrenhall7990
@darrenhall7990 5 лет назад
I'm going to be purchasing my 347e (smog legal) from you guys. I'm going to have you guys put the 185 AFR'S, I also want a forged crank. I have a tubular GT40 upper and lower I'm going to get rid of. I'm going to top your motor you build me with a re-released kenne bell 2.1
@302hobronco
@302hobronco 4 года назад
Love this type of build and test. Can we see the same test but with a 302?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
We have not built a 302 in years, no reason to but if someone wants to pay for it, we would!
@302hobronco
@302hobronco 4 года назад
@@coasthighperformance7908 oh snap there is no love for the 302 anymore??
@anthonysupplee858
@anthonysupplee858 4 года назад
They build 302-Strokers... 331’s etc
@lukebronstein9617
@lukebronstein9617 5 лет назад
so you recommend a 65mm TB for this? Also what is the best intake you have ever tested? the holley?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
Nope, 75MM
@lukebronstein9617
@lukebronstein9617 5 лет назад
@@coasthighperformance7908 With the holley intake?
@Eddie510s
@Eddie510s 3 года назад
I have a bone stock 302 with a Vortech S Trim and have some brand new AFR165s . Should I sell these and get 185s ? If I stick with the 165s what cam would you guys recommend? Thanks guys ! Love the videos
@aaronliddell4280
@aaronliddell4280 2 года назад
Run the 165’s. David Vizard or Richard Holdner will tell you the same thing. 👍
@Dogleg1957
@Dogleg1957 4 года назад
What cam was in there. Building 331for 65 mustang....for my wife. So big hp not necessary but that sounded great. 331 auto and 355s. Motor trans rear end out of 96 explorer
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
One of our mild custom cams was like 220 duration.
@Dogleg1957
@Dogleg1957 4 года назад
@@coasthighperformance7908 okk will note that...really great sounding motor
@stanmack1
@stanmack1 4 года назад
Why not Extrude Hone the cast intakes? If you ported the lower, why not port the upper? I hope you ported the inlet for the bigger throttle body.
@adamrushka8096
@adamrushka8096 6 месяцев назад
Because power gains Vs cost isn't worth it.
@duanecarter3808
@duanecarter3808 5 лет назад
What size injectors were you using?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
42's and tuned with Megasquirt Mustang ECU
@georgestone3958
@georgestone3958 3 года назад
thanks for the test. I have the same motor and intake with a vortec 13 LB supercharger. coud you estimate the horsepower for me please. I ask this as no one here has the software to use on the dyno.
@aaronliddell4280
@aaronliddell4280 3 года назад
So go dyno it and see what it makes...
@andrefecteau
@andrefecteau 3 года назад
be around 600 if the tune is good, if this motor is 400 and 20 hp/lb? Run E85 and watch the numbers go!
@bigdogsportingtonyb2833
@bigdogsportingtonyb2833 4 года назад
Should have had Bigdogs Porting port the upper and lowers on both gt40 style manifolds. The results would have been a lot different. Running stock uppers on mildy ported gt40 lowers will not gain much at all we have seen this on the dyno as well. Our testing shows only a 10-15cfm gain once bolted together. This is why tests like this don't represent what a good ported gt40 style manifold can do. Fully port that Explorer gt40 upper and lower and shorten the runners to raise the rpm peak and it would run circles around the mildly ported Systemax 2.
@The44445544
@The44445544 5 лет назад
Thanks for that test...next time try Holley vs rpm 2 vs tfs track ;)
@brucebell7623
@brucebell7623 4 года назад
Try those intakes against "Big dogs Porting / Performance " stage 2/3 explorer intakes. His stage 2 ported intake will out flow these after market
@bigboytv6089
@bigboytv6089 5 лет назад
So what cam would you recommend with the afr185 heads on a 302
@BustedWalletGarage
@BustedWalletGarage 5 лет назад
BigBoy TV the 185’s have the larger 351 head bolt holes so to install on a 302 block you need special inserts
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
Custom cams are ground depending the application
@chucksgarage7165
@chucksgarage7165 4 года назад
What ECM are you running for these tests?
@1stockcam
@1stockcam 4 года назад
Chuck's Truck sure looks like megasquirt to me
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Megasquirt ECU
@tflkwiz594
@tflkwiz594 4 года назад
do you guys still offer the ford 347e short block?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Yes, we just dyno'd one, video coming soon.
@chrisland169
@chrisland169 3 года назад
again lack of info here ,ex: injectors size , timing set up, headers tube size , oil grade, rockers ratios , if you want to do this more presicion guys, so less questions after!
@1stockcam
@1stockcam 4 года назад
The comparison is cool, but the explorer gt40 intake is only ugly when you remove the badge like you guys did. Put it back on!
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Agreed but Time is money ;)
@Stl5ltr
@Stl5ltr 5 лет назад
How much more would 185's pick up?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
With the Holley intake maybe 20HP
@GJ-DT
@GJ-DT 5 лет назад
408w afr225s 💪
@modlist6129
@modlist6129 3 года назад
Wonder how much power it would make with some trick flow 11r
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 3 года назад
Whole lot more. 165's lol...would have sold them and got me better heads, and took my loss before having that engine sucking wind.
@modlist6129
@modlist6129 3 года назад
@@robertelmo7736 I would have to the 11r make some good power
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 3 года назад
Going to see, just got some from a buddy going to switch out hogged out old style TW for these 205cc 11R’s on my 393.
@tonydjr.8593
@tonydjr.8593 Месяц назад
Yup sorry bud . That is all at full throttle . Very impressed though
@jarronellis5801
@jarronellis5801 4 года назад
Are you guys local here in Los Angeles
@jarronellis5801
@jarronellis5801 2 года назад
I was wondering how come on your website you don’t have prices for Turn key motors
@TheSlim93gt
@TheSlim93gt 4 года назад
I wouldn't necessarily call those intakes ported. Mine are usually cut and welded back together. Lol.
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
For something like this that option would be overkill- but we like your style!!
@sandyshoremann7524
@sandyshoremann7524 3 года назад
Gasket matched.
@Kyle-pl6rl
@Kyle-pl6rl 4 года назад
What kind of power should someone expect from this engine with a carburetor?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
EFI long runner intakes usually make more torque but carb engines with dual plane probably would have made more power while losing a bit of torque.
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
Would probably make a bit more power while losing a bit of torque, EFI long runner intakes help build great torque.
@68nitrostang
@68nitrostang 2 года назад
What camshaft ? I heard 113 lobe sep
@clippw.w.1596
@clippw.w.1596 Год назад
Yeah, typically it's a 114 or 116...also 9.9:1 C/R not really built for boost (bit high). Nonetheless great giving a 331 some dyno love and over 400hp is quite nice.
@HammerHeadGarage
@HammerHeadGarage 4 года назад
Whats the timing set at?
@sandyshoremann7524
@sandyshoremann7524 3 года назад
Fast burn with good quench CNC AL heads on a SBWF usually about 32-34 N.A. More at 32 deg. all-in at 3500rpm - NOT 36 ! Pull and read read a couple plugs every 5 second WOT if you are looking for that last degree for HP on pump gas. if you see aluminum, your done, and back down 2 degrees. I would also go for short nose plugs and start colder to boot. Autolite copper core with inconel ground- not NGK whatever core and whatever meltaway grounds! Enjoy! - Sandy
@HammerHeadGarage
@HammerHeadGarage 3 года назад
@@sandyshoremann7524 I use Autolite 104 copper with good results.
@FXRSDriver
@FXRSDriver 5 лет назад
What tuning system were you using? OTS cam???
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
We have our own pump and regulator on the dyno, ran with Megasquirt EFI
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
Custom cam, Megasquirt Plug and Play Fox body ECU
@FXRSDriver
@FXRSDriver 5 лет назад
Comp lobes? Just curious, I like to emulate builds I like in my engine analyzer program.
@tonyhatchetman
@tonyhatchetman 4 года назад
[Music] 😂
@hoey3510
@hoey3510 4 года назад
why would u bother when u can.build a 347 same block?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 4 года назад
We know, we started 347's back in the 90's but customer wanted to buy a 331 so we built it.
@Maples01
@Maples01 4 года назад
Because the 347 has the wrist pin in the oil control ring, recipe for disaster.
@alexcostan3391
@alexcostan3391 4 года назад
lmao...some can't just throw the $2,000 out of their pockets for a stroker kit....just sayin
@josephmoneymobley
@josephmoneymobley 5 лет назад
Beginning of the video the one guy said 10.1 compression and the other said 9.1 . It is a 9.1 right ?
@coasthighperformance7908
@coasthighperformance7908 5 лет назад
9.9:1 to be exact
@josephmoneymobley
@josephmoneymobley 5 лет назад
@@coasthighperformance7908 Thanks for replying. Mine i believe is around 9.5:1 Its a 306 stock block , stock crank , comp nitrous ground cam duration 282/294 lift 565/580 lobe separation 114 . Power rang is 2600 to 6400 rpm . Edelbrock performer rpm aluminum heads - edelbrock performer air gap intake , 1.6 roller rockera . Speed pro power forged pistons. Its not been deck yet or had any porting done. What compression do you think its has and would you have a horse power guess ? Backed up by built c4 164 tooth . Trans brake , stall is 3200 thinking of getting a 4000 . 8.8 rear with 4.10 gear
@andrefecteau
@andrefecteau 3 года назад
skip all these intakes, get an Edelbrock with a Wilson Elbow and a 90 mm Accufab TB...
@chrisland169
@chrisland169 3 года назад
again lack of info here ,ex: injectors size , timing set up, headers tube size , oil grade, rockers ratios
@viciousrap700
@viciousrap700 2 года назад
I'm going to sound crass by saying this and I don't mean to but honestly guys....that's not porting. I have a ported Cobra manifold that's actually ported. I assure you the results are not the same.
@19jody72
@19jody72 3 года назад
The "socket" comment... look here, you tell your buddy to bring his his ported intake, and his upper..oh wait, he doesn't do ported upper intakes because he doesn't know how! But if he ever figures it out.. him and the other snake oil "custom cam" guy,. they can team up with ported stuff and I'll bring an off the shelf cam and gaurantee you they're parts and cam are shit! You guys should be careful who you joke about.. Ill never use any of your services for that reason. The guy you joke about, the "socket" comment, I have his stuff and its top notch port work. Where is Ed's port work?
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 4 месяца назад
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