Stroking A 5.0L Small Block Ford to 347 C.I. - Engine Power S2, E8

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On this episode of Engine Power, the team gets started on Project Black & Blue Stage I. They make big street/strip power on a budget by stroking a stock 5.0L small block Ford to 347.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Air Flow Research: Cylinder Heads, Competition Porting, Aluminum, Assembled, 58cc Chamber, 195cc Intake, Ford, Small Block, Pair
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ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
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ARP: Harmonic Balancer Bolt, Chromoly, Black Oxide, 12-Point, Ford, V8, Each
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ARP: Oil Pump Driveshaft, Ford, 221-302, Each
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ATI Performance Products: Harmonic Balancer, Super Damper, Internal Balance, Aluminum, Steel, Ford, 289, 302, 351C, 351M, 351W, 400
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ATI Performance Products: Timing Pointer, Billet Aluminum, Black Anodized, Adjustable, Ford, Small Block, Each
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Dorman Products: Timing Cover, 1-Piece, Aluminum, Natural, Ford, Each
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Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Gloss, Ford Blue, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
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Eagle Specialty Products: Engine Rotating Assembly, Competition,(ESP)Forged Crank, Forged Mahle Pistons, H-Beam Rods, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Victor Jr, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Ford, 4.7L, 5.0L, Each
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Timing Cover, Cork/Rubber, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: FEL-PRO, Gaskets, Manifold, Intake, Stock Port, Ford, 302/351W, Set
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Hooker Headers: Headers, Super Competition, Full-Length, Steel, Painted, Ford, Mercury, Pair
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Lunati: Cam & Lifters, 351W, V292HR10
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Lunati: Rocker Arms, Voodoo, Full Roller, Aluminum, Black, 3/8 in. Stud Size, 1.6 Ratio, Ford, Set of 16
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Lunati: Billet Timing Set 9-Key 302HO/351W
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Melling: Camshaft Thrust, Plate, Steel, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 302, 351W, Late Model Style, Each
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Melling: Oil Pump, High-Volume, Ford, 221/255/260/289/302, Each
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Moroso: Street/Strip Oil Pan, Ford 289-302, Kicked-Out Sump, Front Wet Sump, 7-quart capacity, 8" Depth, Black Powdercoated finish
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Moroso: Oil Pickup, Bolt-In, Aftermarket Pan Style, Ford, 289-302, Each
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Moroso: Main Cap Girdle, Steel, Ford, 289/302, Kit
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MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, 289-302, Each
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MSD Ignition: Distributor Gear, Aluminum, Bronze, Race, .466 in. Diameter Shaft, Ford, 289, 302, Each
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Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 750 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
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Royal Purple: Assembly Lube, Max-Tuff, Synthetic, 8 oz., Each
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Spectre Performance: Extraflow Breather Black
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Summit Racing: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 2-Bolt Mains, 4.030 in. Diameter Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, Ford, Small Block, 302
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Summit Racing: Water Neck, Gasket, Steel, Chrome, 90 degree, Ford, Small Block Windsor, Each
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Summit Racing: Valve Covers, Tall, Die-cast, Aluminum, Black, 347 C.I. Stroker, Ford, Small Block, Pair
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Dake: Arbor Presses - Ratchet Leverage, 3T
Spectre Performance: Extraflow HPR Air Cleaner 14 In. x 5 In. - Black
The Industrial Depot: Industrial Depot - Fasteners, Hardware, And Shop Supplies
Unleashed Custom Machining: 1 Inch Lightweight Tapered Blend 4150 Carburetor Spacer

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@PowerNationTV 4 года назад

We'll continue to post these episodes here on RU-vid. If you can't wait for the rest of the build, visit our site to binge-watch: www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power

@josephklimchock5412 4 года назад

What was the final build cost?....Is it less than a Ford Motorsports new performance engine?

@sammyvices2547 4 года назад

Please build a stroked out 351W to 410 on fuel injection with twisted wedge heads

@gregmyatt9932 4 года назад

PowerNation would love to see a similar build done on a 302 with cleveland heads. The high revving little 302 is sweet music to my ears.

@springwoodslasher79 4 года назад

That's 225 hp and 300 torque. Get it right.

@jnljnl8485 4 года назад

You should turn this into a clevor next . just to compair the power defrence between the heads.

@quadrider3013 3 года назад

Wow, That young amish man sure knows a lot about engines.

@alanfusselman1873 3 года назад

You should see him rise a barn.

@kimmorrison9169 2 года назад

can’t grow the matching mustache!🥸

@ed_1969 2 года назад

😅

@dirtydoggey 2 года назад

😂😂

@kalijasin 2 года назад

Amish Mike

@christianibarra9438 3 года назад

Such a small engine, but has a heart of a lion! Love Ford!

@jeffweaver7011 4 года назад

I love these little Fords. They are low deck, lightweight, and fit in a small engine bay. You can low budget one and get 300 - 350 horsepower with the stock heads. Use main cap studs or a girdle for high rpm. This is a cool build. Excellent job guys .

@1320crusier 4 года назад

Just dont push them much past 500hp though I suppose that girdle helps

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

Jeff Weaver there are people using stock everything inside and outside these engines in stock eliminator class getting over 400 HP with a stock lift super long duration custom csm

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

1320crusier I would weld the girdle on after torqing it down to keep any slipping from happening

@1320crusier 4 года назад

@@spankthemonkey3437 if youre twisting the girdled mains you have other issues.

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

1320crusier too much power

@BustedWalletGarage 4 года назад

“ we’re calling this build ‘Little Black & Blue’ because it’s going to be guilty of domestic violence against your wallet “

@robsorgdrager8477 4 года назад

Show me a big power n/a Ford small windsor build that don't. You think this build is expensive, try the same thing on a 318 mope ...I mean there is not a reason as the 318 and 360 are very close in hight. A 302 is a very short deck engine that's the reason for the stroker kit. So it cost a lot to play the displacement game. It's not like going forced induction is that much cheaper plus to build a small windsor to live a long life of being beat you need to make sure the machining and assembly are good even on a simple bolt on turbo kit. If you want to skirt some of the fancy things you can. I'd start with a 99-2000 explorer 5.0 and keep the edis ( electronic distributorless ignition ) run a crank trigger, use good heads , good nitrous cam and a msd box. Pill it till ya kill it and go get another junk yard block.

@BustedWalletGarage 4 года назад

Rob Sorgdrager look at some of my old videos and you’ll see me rebuilding a Ford 5.0 using an old car tire as an engine stand.

@JoeyGarcia 4 года назад

Quit crying!! Try building a Mopar! I'll cost you twice as much, and with less than half of the parts availability!

@simplyfred8044 4 года назад

Love my 347. But still pounding the dent out of my wallet. Lol. Great engine.

@robsorgdrager8477 4 года назад

@@BustedWalletGarage dude, I've been a mechanic and carguy since 97...I'm also not rich😕. I've used come alongs and a tree to pull engines, I like using tires to rest engines and trans'es on. I did a engine swap out the bottom of a Ford focus with Jack stands, a floor jack on class 5 ...that one required many many beers. I feel ya holms a good mechanic is like a marine...get the job done using what's at hand. 😊

@marklowe7431 3 года назад

Wow, the first 5.0 build in a while that invested in a girdle on a late 50 block. Smart move. Killer engine.

@davidlopez7209 4 года назад

Built using off the shelf parts, $10k later. At least they had the decency not to call it a budget build. Nice motor though.

@johnl9977 2 месяца назад

I had a 69' Mach 1 with a built 351 Windsor and that motor was pretty stout. Why not just throw the top end on a 351 without the expense of a stroker?

@michaelgiglio1571 Год назад

Ignition timings sounded perfect. See how nice a V8 can run with the distributor at the front, 💥

@ziggybammurphy191 4 года назад

I wish i went to automotive school....i just watch and enjoy tinkering with engines for a hobby.....ive made good money for the last 13 years as an electrical lineman, but my heart has always been with engines and cars....

@CrzyMav 4 года назад

I love these small block Fords. That’s all I built back in the late 80’s-90’s. These little engines are Bullit proof that’s why Carol Shelby loved them on his cars.

@LA_Commander Год назад

WOW, that might not be the most powerful motor I've ever seen, but it definitely is the BEST SOUNDING motor I've ever heard!

@2ndsspz Месяц назад

this build was pre covid, thanks Joe

@AJ1990. 3 года назад

Having these guys do a ground up build for you would be a dream come true man. These guys have done hundreds of builds, and I have yet to see them half ass a build. The enthusiasm and passion for their work is what it's all about man. Its inspired me to pick up a wrench and start teaching myself.

@SamuelHollandsh 4 года назад

Wow, what a nice video with attention to detail and the small block is really nice. Thanks

@videomaniac108 4 года назад

That is one sweet, smooth running engine. I could listen to it purr all day long.

@rrarms3159 4 года назад

Excellent job and approach guys, thank you very much for your show! :-) Part list for your builds are incredible addition to all of us who dream about assembling own engine :-) BIG Thumbs up! :-)

@carloscolon1009 2 года назад

Thank You for sharing your wisdom. I love your show and your enthusiasm.

@maynardreed4036 4 года назад

I'm not really a ford guy, but that is pretty impressive.

@MegaScott 3 года назад

Forgot to mention the crank rear seal installation and they didn't check the clearance between the oil pickup and the bottom of the oil pan, a major fubar since this is very important to be sure the oil pan does not suck up to the pickup. The composite distributor gear would have been a better choice to use versus the Bronze gear. The bronze gear will need replaced after a while of use, where the composite gear will not wear like the bronze gear will. Lots of excitement getting 500hp, when for about the same cost you could have built a 408 stroker and easily exceeded 500hp.

@ImTheJoker4u 3 года назад

I LOVE attention to detail. If you find a shop like that, give them ALL the business. "The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten".

@57ozcar 4 года назад

My first V8 was a 221 Windsor. Love what you have done to the 302.

@michaelbenoit248 4 года назад

Me: "Wow 500HP 447FTLBS of torque naturally asperated." Inner Me. "Now turbo it."

@1320crusier 4 года назад

annnnddd... now you have 2 4 cylinder blocks..lol

@_M_-mg3ix 4 года назад

Michael Benoit for real tonaaah

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

1320crusier yea he will turn it into two engines.

@thedon3836 4 года назад

Nope not with a stock block 347 kit. A 331 sure, better rod angle better rotational harmonics etc but you don't wanna run even 650hp threw a stock HO block they have a tendancy of splitting in half at the lifter valley. With the poor harmonics and radical rod angle of a 347 in a stock block I dout you could run 5lbs boost or even 560hp at the crank before she split in half.

@mattgarkus2489 4 года назад

Turbo a v8? Disgusting Put a blower and get better performance

@philthyco1 4 года назад

Great motor..I hand one similar in my 67' Cougar ..With the Scat stroker kit and a Blue Chip Racing wolverine cam

@johnbehneman1546 Год назад

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! TOTALLY AWESOME BUILD FOR A DAILY DRIVER!!!! A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR THIS MOTOR!!! SUPERCHARGER SUGGESTION!!!!!

@gregrogers3030 4 года назад

Sweet build you guys!!!!

@kimcokevin 4 года назад

Loving the blue oval content!

@AdamAndersonFL 2 года назад

I really enjoyed watching this build. GOod job

@johnbehneman1546 Год назад

GREAT VIDEO AND A GREAT BUILD!!! THANK YOU SUMMIT RACING!!!!!

@Rudderify 4 года назад

Nice numbers! Looking forward to stage 2.

@pimpovic2 4 года назад

16:00 that sound on deceleration. Nice.

@bluespig1 4 года назад

We had these in Australia for years, originally casting our own and then returning to USA stock in the 1990's. In 2002, the Falcon XR8 5.0i was producing 297hp & 435nm with factory exhaust. A good set of pipes & exhaust easily added 30hp. Good fun with the Tremec 5 speed and LSD.

@RodBeauvex 2 года назад

>LSD Ummm.....

@mymusic684 4 года назад

The valve covers are amazing

@jamiemuncy2219 4 года назад

Now this is why I’m Ford to the core💯 Check this out, 507hp on a 8.2 deck pump gas engine!! That’s something for your arsenal 💯💯👍🏻👍🏻💯💯

@XxMusclecarsxX 4 года назад

sbf are the shit

@caterpillar6nz310 4 года назад

are you nut ?

@yeetskeetledeet8184 4 года назад

caterpillar6nz no, i DO nut

@sschevmale24 4 года назад

Ford sux . Unless you build it yourself. All the new dohc is shit

@BuzzLOLOL 4 года назад

This is aftermarket, not "Ford"...

@AmericanThunder 4 года назад

Sticking with a 332" (3.25" x 4.030") ends up making more power and being generally more durable than the larger 347" stroker due to the better rod to stroke ratio. I run custom length 5.5" rods in my 332", so the rod to stroke ratio is 1.69:1, which is what a stock 302 has. Longer piston dwell times and less piston side load on the cylinder walls means more efficiency and longevity. Also, when building a stroker, (or any high hp 302) the pre-1983(you can tell from the 2-piece rear seal vs 1-piece rear seal) 302 blocks weigh 120 lbs, whereas their newer counterparts only weigh 80 lbs. That extra 40 lbs of cast material was removed mostly from the main bearing support area of the block in the new castings, and Ford did that to help lighten the nose on the Mustang fox bodies for better handling. The end result is, a heavier older 302 block can "reliably" handle upwards of 800-850hp, while the newer 5.0 blocks can only deal with 450-500 before they fail.(that's assuming you run a billet steel main stud girdle) p.s. The Race Demon carb series were tested on a dyno vs various performance fuel injection systems, and the Race Demons actually made more HP and much to the surprise of everyone, also outperformed fuel injection on low end torque too. Barry Grant knows how to build a carb. This is why I always suggest the Barry Grant RD carbs over any other Holley style carb.

@xmo552 3 года назад

Thanks for the info. Would you mind sharing more please?

@sategllib2191 10 месяцев назад

I never could believe the 5.0 blocks could handle so little

@joshuamoore24_7 4 года назад

Nice job that Ford Frankenstein 347 stroker engine build!!!!

@pranays 3 года назад

I'm 45 and I finally learned you can girdle 2 bot mains. Thanks.

@car-man 4 года назад

I run the car maintenance RU-vid channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

@CameronLegend 4 года назад

자동차의 모든 것[ Car & Man ] I’ll be in Korea in a few months, let’s collaborate 💪🏾

@roberthusk3402 2 года назад

Thats creepy, do u wanna blow them

@ohioplayer-bl9em 2 года назад

@@roberthusk3402 sounds like a love letter 💌

@chasevans7171 4 года назад

Great to see as I'm in the middle of doing a 347 build. The "order up some pushrods they'll be with you next day" thing unfortunately not so easy if you live in the UK. More like three weeks. And then there's duty to pay on top of shipping before you can actually take delivery. (Expensive). We do have some really good helpful American speed parts stockists here in the UK but they can't stock everything a huge US company like summit can unfortunately.

@gregmyatt9932 4 года назад

Chas Evans yeah i know how you feel. Im in Oz and its the same hassles but you wait 2 months for stuff to get here, then its wrong and have to send it back. Plus its triple the price compared to US.

@deanwaring6100 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏

@robertwest3093 2 года назад

This engine dropped into a small bumper 1970-1972 Maverick would literally be SCARY!! I REALLY want to own another Ford Maverick of any year before I put my tools down for the final time. Short wheelbase and 2800-2900 pounds from the factory with MANY areas to drop several hundred more pounds of weight. It's basically THE perfect drag car!

@jeremyrios433 4 года назад

Need this motor bad!!!

@andrewbrown755 4 года назад

Impressive hp per cubic inch!

@289pinto 4 года назад

@@mewrongway and any onther makes bulid would all be made by the oem manufacturer right... Yeah, dumbass.

@dufus2273 4 года назад

I like that . everything was right. those 205 runners help I've got a 302 and a 3.40 crank. I think ill build it like this.

@dogmandan79 3 года назад

Could watch this all day. Wish I had somewhere to work/build engines at.

@andrewinsinga2993 4 года назад

Wow you guy's didn't degree the camshaft!!

@393strokedcoupe 4 года назад

Awesome results. I'd love to see you guys do a street/strip, more street, 393 Windsor with a stock block. My block is the slightly shorter deck height 9.480" version out of a 69 Torino. From what I understand the main girdle webbings are thicker too. I'm trying for 10.5 to 11 to 1 compression.

@buckykattguitar 4 года назад

393stroker I did exactly that for my 68 Fairlane! She's a beast.

@393strokedcoupe 4 года назад

@@buckykattguitar What heads and induction did you end up going with?

@LarryLunsford 4 месяца назад

good. job. for. 302 ,,347,,bad. hot. rod

@NewtonWashinton 4 года назад

Nice build Guys!

@tonyking4725 3 года назад

Thats a mean lil 302 great jobs guys awesome power from a lil 302

@wyattsullivan6355 4 года назад

DO A 4.9 LITER/300 INLINE 6 BUILD!!!!!!!

@2012lucasb 4 года назад

They did.

@wyattsullivan6355 4 года назад

@@2012lucasb Are you thinking of the slant six? 4.9 isnt slanted and is a far far way better motor

@black98rt 4 года назад

Be interesting to see but man those motors were dogs.

@wyattsullivan6355 4 года назад

@@black98rt Oh yeah I drive one everyday itd be cool to see one set up for performance by these two.

@jasonwilson6658 4 года назад

4 barrel holley. Duel pumper

@MikesTrackBuilding 4 года назад

That was awesome. Something I am wondering...what is the run in procedure before you do the high rpm runs? How is that done?

@thomascoker3600 3 года назад

that lined up lettering on the freeze plugs will give it a hundred horsepower

@ralphvalkenhoff2887 4 года назад

Impressive rpms on that stroke. Summit sure has a great deal on that block with all that you get.

@rodericklewis832 4 года назад

I would love to see what you guys could do with a 5.2 magnum 318

@jasonwilson6658 4 года назад

340 heads rv cam

@BuzzLOLOL 4 года назад

400 HP 318?: www.hotrod.com/articles/318-small-block-build

@jonthomsen7433 2 года назад

There is a guy running 10.80s in his barracuda with a 318 fourspeed. The most underrated engine mopar ever buikt

@nicks.6577 4 года назад

What about checking the intake clearance between it and the 'China walls"? I had an issue with mine being too big, had to get .030 shaved off the intake runners to lower the intake into the wedge created by the cylinder heads. This was need due to the decking of the block (.010), which changed the geometry of the cylinder head placement relative to each other and the intake. Overall, I wish I never took on building a Windsor 302. I thought it was a good motor until realizing its great deficiencies of main webbing strength (almost all stock blocks crack) and its small deck height creates major side-loading issues that prematurely wear out the cylinder bores in stroked applications. If you must build a stroker' Windsor, use the .030 pistons and a slightly less radical stroke than what the 347 requires to minimize side-loading. 347's require your piston compression height to be so small that your require a ring bridge to support the oil rings, makes you wonder about if exaggerating the stroke so much to get to 347ci is worth it long-term.

@codyfeatherstone553 4 года назад

Wow that thing is amazing

@paulnewman2778 3 года назад

So glad PN is back. Saturdays have not been the same once they started messing with the talent and program style.

@stang3028 4 года назад

I’ll take one for a donation for my 67 fastback just saying

@mustangfan5108 4 года назад

I don’t know if the Engine Power guys read this, or if the PowerNation guys can let them know this, but can we possibly see a Hemi build at some point?

@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 года назад

great work guys

@christopherhull2416 3 года назад

Man, I remember Pat when I went to S.A.M. Great job

@jamram7825 3 года назад

Did u hear that engine sounded bad ass, wish I could fit this on my daily fuel efficient saturn sl1 95 it would be a sleeper

@RyanBenbow 13 часов назад

It would bend it in half. Don't do it ❌

@luketeverino6085 4 года назад

Arp studs for the intake and oilpan but not for the heads or crank?

@rickylawson6588 4 года назад

Luke Teverino it's all arp hardware

@ItsJoshN 4 года назад

The heads of the studs on all the main caps and the girdle looked like arp

@crashcourseinbruhsurgery 4 года назад

Using ARP studs is basically a given.

@luketeverino6085 4 года назад

Nazty604 they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

@luketeverino6085 4 года назад

ricky Lawson they used bolts not studs. Studs are stronger and should be used in places where they are needed more than the oil pan. Like the heads and crank

@Johans60 4 года назад

Love the bleu distr. cap

@valuedhumanoid6574 4 года назад

This was the first engine these guys have built. True story. They did pretty good for a first attempt...

@dsiner1obslifedziner157 4 года назад

5.0 HO 🏁🏁🏁

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

5.0 LO

@ragimundvonwallat8961 4 года назад

@@spankthemonkey3437 gay=you

@dsiner1obslifedziner157 4 года назад

@@ragimundvonwallat8961 That's not what your mom said you transexal Troll...

@jeffstevens664 4 года назад

Why would you not degree the cam to get that cam inline with spec.

@johnhamblin12201 4 года назад

This drives me crazy about this show. They do every trick in the book when it comes to a chevy. but they spend thousands on this engine and don't use an adjustable timing set. if It was a chevy they would have.

@strictlybusiness1598 4 года назад

@@johnhamblin12201 the timing set has multiple keyways on the crank gear to adjust intake centerline. I'm positive this cam was put exactly where they wanted it.

@traeheck3614 4 года назад

The cam was 4 degrees advanced.

@jeffstevens664 4 года назад

@@bigboreracing356 how do you know we build super late model engines for runing in nascar i have seen deg a cam put out up to 30hp.

@wysetech2000 4 года назад

@@bigboreracing356 For all we know they degreed the cam and didn't show us. It takes a little time to do.

@bluespig1 4 года назад

Great build. My Australian 2001 model Falcon has a 300hp 5.0i Windsor as standard. A set of AFR heads might be just the ticket.

@xmo552 3 года назад

Is that the same engine as the Ford Explorer in the states?

@grabir01 4 года назад

A lot of power for a small block.. Wow!!

@alandominguez1707 4 года назад

This would’ve been a cooler project if they would’ve done an efi 5.0.

@martingatavaski1351 4 года назад

Carb was just easier to test on the Dyno, a 86-93 Mustang EFI system would net same results with a good tune, n maybe even more hp n tq with the longer "upper n lower" intake runners... Step up to Holley efi management n numbers would definitely jump!

@senna138 4 года назад

Naw it wouldn't sound as good as a carb. I'd miss it.

@anonymousanonymous9991 4 года назад

@@martingatavaski1351 Horsepower would probably come down a few points but it wouldn't increase. You wouldn't see the horsepower difference until it was boosted. EFI would have a definitive torque advantage.

@anonymousanonymous9991 4 года назад

@@senna138 If they used a more aggressive cam with 114 degrees of lobe separation and a high rpm intake manifold it would sound similar. I believe they build the motor for high RPM anyways, so it wouldn't change the performance much. Unless you mean the vacuum lines/distributor whirring. That cannot be replicated.

@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

EFI is ghey.

@andrewwihlon7419 4 года назад

I always thought you needed to degree a cam when doing a build and not to trust dot to dot.

@marklowe7431 4 года назад

Great show, watching in Australia. Love the Windsors. Making that kind or pwr/tqe with a late 5.0 block is a bit of a worry. The girdle was good idea.

@bear10bearessenticals26 3 года назад

Be nice to fit in the AU vehicles and teach the holden alesson

@randomdude4669 3 года назад

@@bear10bearessenticals26 a barra will do that just fine while being much cheaper than this

@bear10bearessenticals26 3 года назад

@@randomdude4669 Im a V8 person, not a turbo fan,

@buckbuck9225 4 года назад

Great show

@Saleen85111 4 года назад

Summit doesn't show that block.. they switch you to a 5K combo from this episode.. bait and switch!

@allanb3222 4 года назад

I'm sure availability and pricing had changed over the years since this was aired.

@I_like_turtles_67 4 года назад

All these parts new is over 5 grand now.

@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 года назад

You can buy the 86-93 5.0 blocks all day long off craigslist, Ebay, etc. You just have to have a shop do the machine work.

@nicktipton5675 4 года назад

@@allanb3222 I mean, it's only been 5 years.......

@bacchusthompson5834 3 года назад

@@TOMVUTHEPIMP block will split like a toothpick at this power level...

@wyattyeary8050 4 года назад

For a bunch of Chevy guys they seem pretty impressed with the ford. Was beginning to think this was a Chevy biased channel.

@Etruscan70 3 года назад

Chevy small blocks are cheaper , produce more power per dollar than any manufacturer , and dominate the track and strip with by far the most factory championships. It’s a actually not even close. So naturally it appears that most people are Chevy biased, when it’s not a bias. It’s what the market dictates.

@wyattyeary8050 3 года назад

@@Etruscan70 seems very opinionated lol

@Etruscan70 3 года назад

the total outright domination of Factory championships , and LS engines are the most swapped out power plants in the USA by far isn’t aren’t opinions Wyatt . They’re facts. Objective much? I have well Under 5k invested in an L92 that’s making a very street-able 600+ hp on a cam swap with mildly reworked heads. That’s hard not to notice.

@wyattyeary8050 3 года назад

@@Etruscan70 still opinionated responses. Go somewhere, what about the coyote? People aren’t making 2000 horsepower with ls blocks.

@Etruscan70 3 года назад

@@wyattyeary8050 yeah all those NHRA championships are my opinion lol 😆.. You’re right , nobody uses the the LS platform all , very rare to see people doing LS builds , and putting them into just about everything on four wheels. LS builds are definitely more expensive than Ford , or mopar , sure thing buddy lol. Anything you say 😂. I like coyotes , but they only make real numbers when you strap air compressor’s on them, and how much do you think it costs to get 600hp out of one , let alone 1200hp ? You’re looking at well over 12k even if you do your own work.

@78mrdad 3 года назад

Love them little small block fords

@pickuptrucker17 2 года назад

You guys crack me up, nice work!

@Ricks408 4 года назад

Yo... what about that 351 Cleveland love?! 😢

@brandonmccollum6349 4 года назад

7k rpm runs + stock block + 500 hp/tq = kaboom

@Odin3v 4 года назад

No it doesnt you idiot.

@CrzyMav 4 года назад

The technology has gotten a lot better now with these engines and parts that are now being sold.

@bear10bearessenticals26 3 года назад

be nice to see you boyz in Australia and educate the locals on 5.0 performance

@HammerHeadGarage 4 года назад

A roller 351 would crush this engine for alot less money.

@xmo552 3 года назад

@Steve Hicks Damn Hicks did you see how many grammar and spelling errors you spat out? That aint don't quiet werk fer mush in yer faver. 😡

@isuguy82 4 года назад

Have you guys ever built a flat crank motor?

@1320crusier 4 года назад

oh oh! Idea! A Ford 427 cammer with a flat plane! That would be epic..

@thedon3836 4 года назад

@@1320crusier no.... just..... no

@1320crusier 4 года назад

@@thedon3836 why not? a super light crank in an engine that already has a good rep.. YES PLEASE! Add in some other luxuries like EFI, timing gears not chains, dry sump, try-y headers, etc... would be a yummy 10-11k rpm engine.

@thedon3836 4 года назад

@@1320crusier no no it wouldnt. I'll explain. 1964-1966 427 sohc aka big daddy cammer engine was built off of the FE engine block family 427 side and top oiler engine blocks. They were super rev happy being over head cam and many blew up because they had no real tells that they were being over revved like pushrod engines do as it was. They were designed for racing and having gobs of boost added to them hence the 90° crank. Flat plain cranks do not fair well with boost they snap under to much cylinder pressure. Switching to a flat plain from a 90 degree would make it rev even faster sure but it would also make them over rev faster and you would only keep it na at that point and probably less compression and power over all. Timing gears pass damaging rotational harmonics into the very hard but very brittle cams and they would shatter over 6000rpm which is why you don't see timing gears in high rpm large displacement engines and mostly only see them in low rpm diesels. All that plus your talking about an engine stock that costs more then most people's homes and that's if you can even find one. So again what you are talking about is an under educated pipe dream. Sorry but that's the truth.

@1320crusier 4 года назад

@@thedon3836 In dream land Comp Cams would be called on to make me some cams from modern materials. But no one is expecting anyone to actually build this. Though.. someone should. F1 engines and other race engines use gear drives.

@cemeteryhill 4 года назад

I love the Windsor family! I have a 1968 Mercury Cougar XR7 with the 302W.

@noneya6334 4 года назад

I think thats just a ford small block 5.0 , not a Windsor bro

@cemeteryhill 4 года назад

@@noneya6334 That was fast. Why do you think that? It is from the Windsor family avaliable in the '68 Cougar from the factory.

@jimbarrows4069 4 года назад

But isn't a Windsor motor go even better with.cleveland heads that's what I heard Windsor block with Cleveland heads

@cemeteryhill 4 года назад

@@jimbarrows4069 I have heard similar things about the 351C heads, never swapped them myself though. The 351C was bigger than the 351W in many ways(the heads for ex.) I know there are aftermarket heads for the 351W & possibly the 302W that are based off the 351C heads. Supposed to be a good design for the times I think.

@robbiefrentz9427 4 года назад

Man things so much better than 30 years ago when i was building

@johnhamblin12201 4 года назад

I love this show but.... They drive me crazy when it comes to ford stuff. Using studs for the intake but not mains or heads, spending thousands on high quality parts but not an adjustable timing set like they usually would on a chevy, using lunati with dog bone retainers instead of a good comp tie bar (yes I know they're a sponsor but so is comp) and spinning it to 6500? what is up with that, still wasn't nosing over. 400hp from a cam and head swap isn't a big deal with a regular 5.0 let alone spending thousands for 100 horse. So frustrating

@jeanvi52 4 года назад

It’s because it’s the stage 1 build

@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад

Baggerz Anonymous they have people getting over 400 hp with stock everything inside and outside the engine in stock eliminator class. Actually the cam is the only change it's a stock lift super long duration cam. Those 5.0 ho are good engines

@noahrodeghiero9640 4 года назад

Thats alot of RTV on those china rails

@dntlss 3 года назад

I tell you something funny,Ive been around engines as long as i could walk and ive never heard anyone call them that,lol, learn something new every day, i myself love the little blue rubber gaskets that come in some kits,man those things are nice,cork gaskets suck bad.

@truckstractorswildlifeguns6648 4 года назад

Bridge the valley also,high rpm Windsor block can split in the middle of the lifter valley .glad the bottom end is caged .

@gederonaldz8344 4 года назад

Thank you,videos

@chadharmon5716 4 года назад

Need one to replace my old 99 explorer 5.0 stat lol

@joekeys9021 4 года назад

That's what I'm thinking lol

@HaynesJP 4 года назад

I built a 302 with Explorer heads I ported and polished, put it in an 89 Hatchback and ran a 12.22@112mph. Fun little motor, surprised a lot of people.

@xmo552 3 года назад

@@HaynesJP That's it? What cam?

@HaynesJP 3 года назад

X Mo thats it? You can’t be serious. It was a custom grind from Camshaft Innovations. .571/.574 on a 114 LSA I believe.

@xmo552 3 года назад

@@HaynesJP You made it seem simple so I asked a simple question. I can assemble an engine but I haven't a clue about parts selection.

@jimcatx3090 4 года назад

Who uses a impact gun installing rod caps and no lube on the camshaft I’m glad I built my motor

@thatmarred_mustang 4 года назад

They did use lube on the cam. They didnt say it but you could see it.

@jimcatx3090 4 года назад

Bucking Bronco was it clear I always use red thick sticky assembly lube adding it as it goes in they are not engine builders there on tv there hands aren’t even dirty

@thatmarred_mustang 4 года назад

@@jimcatx3090 I mean 🤷‍♂️ its whatever man. Yeah, it was clear

@danyalnaseemalbert9821 2 года назад

I bought the same rotating assembly so did they really make a make gap on piston rings or do the rings come already to proper gap? So you just put them on the piston?

@rcbustanut2057 Год назад

That's exactly what I was looking for to put in my kids power wheels car!! 😁

@hereinmissoula11 4 года назад

1 5/8 header was too small. 1 3/4 will pickup power , maybe over 15... also vict jr's are not very good out of the box... try a super victor instead, will also give you 15 more...