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Ford Escort MK1 Restoration. DIY Gearbox Adaptor Plate. MX5 NA to ST170. Will it Work? Part 1 

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In this episode I start to build an adaptor plate to try and mate an MX5 NA Mk1 gearbox to the ST170 engine, it's a work in progress that may not even work!
Throughout the project we will build tools to help us along the way, the custom tools we build, we will upload our how-to videos
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Комментарии : 81   
@hohocc1349
@hohocc1349 Год назад
Your ability to see simple ways of doing things is remarkable, always look forward to your videos. Great effort, thanks.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thank you very much!😊
@gordondaniels9718
@gordondaniels9718 20 часов назад
superb thanks for sharing
@jpvill4th
@jpvill4th Месяц назад
What a cool way to make an adapter if you don't want to use a computer with a 2D drafting program.
@Dmanpeterson
@Dmanpeterson Год назад
Not too many adapter plate DIY videos. Really like the idea you had on this one. With welding those nuts on you definitely reduce the need for precision while still getting a perfect fit. Looking forward to part 2!
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks 👍
@Dmanpeterson
@Dmanpeterson Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk when do you think part 2 will be coming out?
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@David Peterson waiting on materials to start it
@stuwhite2337
@stuwhite2337 Год назад
That's giving me ideas about fitting an MX5 box to my MGB
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Fab 👍
@notimportant8120
@notimportant8120 Год назад
Now this is real treasure. Hello from Brisbane, Australia
@sidsxr3irestoration
@sidsxr3irestoration Год назад
Excellent video Dave thinking outside the box with using the nuts to drill through 👍
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Sid 😊
@micktuck5377
@micktuck5377 Год назад
Another great video Dave. very informative can’t wait for the next step. Thanks
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Mick 😊
@neill4133
@neill4133 Год назад
You really should have your own fabrication unit and business. You make it look so easy!
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Neil, I'd love my own unit, but reality is I'm not quick enough, the costs of running a shop are enormous. It remains a hobby for me while I plumber on, good news is I enjoy plumbing 😊😊
@neill4133
@neill4133 Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk Always work there for a plumber!
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf Год назад
Hi 👋🏻 Dave. Yes definitely something different than cutting welding body panels on the escort 🤩 I’ve never seen anything like that done so I really enjoyed it 👍🏻
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Stevie 😊
@infamousaidy
@infamousaidy 10 месяцев назад
That's a great guide with a few ideas I hadn't thought of. Centring the two with the socket is a genius idea. You may just have brought my sequential box swap forwards by quite some time with some of these ideas. Part two will be tonight's pre bedtime viewing. Thanks for going to the effort to document your work.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, I hope it proves useful 😊
@alancutchey9892
@alancutchey9892 Год назад
Brilliant and simple way of doing things. Keep up the good work Dave 😊
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Alan, I can do simple 😊😊
@christee5772
@christee5772 Год назад
Excellent work as always, don't think I'll ever need an adaptor plate but at least I know how to go about it now, thanks. To make welding the nuts on the gearbox side easier you could put the bolts through from the engine side with a nut either side of the template. tightened them up and then you'd be able to take it off and weld them. Or do your method and just sacrifice the bolt heads.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Good idea, ta 😊
@katabazianthoney4158
@katabazianthoney4158 Год назад
Thank you so much, great demo. Watching from.uganda east africa.Trying to create one for a suzuki samurai to fit on a datsun 1200 engine. Wel done
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Hi to Uganda
@billywhizz98
@billywhizz98 Год назад
A very informative video Dave and you make it look easy
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks 👍
@marty3469
@marty3469 Год назад
Very clever Dave, I was thinking that the dowel pins are the crucial points of making adaptor. I will definitely use this idea for my project 👍
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@robertamor3203
@robertamor3203 Год назад
you are a very clever man you made that LOOKsimple to make i can't believe you made it fit first time well done cant wait for your next installment
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thank you very much!
@endeavour2127
@endeavour2127 Год назад
Great project Dave!👌👌👌 I need to do this for a 4age to w58 at some point. Looking forward to the next video!👍
@benjohnson7170
@benjohnson7170 Год назад
Great stuff. Art's n craft's with Dave at the start. Love it,makes perfect sense.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
🤣🤣
@pattiboychannel311
@pattiboychannel311 Год назад
Very well done Dave
@matthewpayne42
@matthewpayne42 Год назад
Another great video from you, thanks and keep them coming soon. 👍
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thank you 😊
@dazzx10r
@dazzx10r Год назад
Retroford use the mk3 (nc or N7) mx5 gearbox, reason being as it bolts directly up to the 2.0 Duratec. The Duratec was used in the mk3 MX5.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Ah, OK, makes sense
@johnparke4836
@johnparke4836 Год назад
Your a very smart wee man Dave 😎😎.Am learning soo much
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks John 😊
@bantampop3532
@bantampop3532 Год назад
👏👏Great job
@grahambrown7720
@grahambrown7720 Год назад
Fantastic thanks
@alanchurchill7305
@alanchurchill7305 Год назад
Incredible,it's a joy watching you work things out Dave , would love to put a,V8 in my Sierra at some point but wondered about mating them together,great video looking forward to seeing your next video on this.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
That would be a project, what's in it now?
@alanchurchill7305
@alanchurchill7305 Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk hi Dave it's a 2.9 V6, plenty of power but not the same noise
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@@alanchurchill7305 oooo I like the noise of the Ford V6 personally 😊
@stevemoreton8406
@stevemoreton8406 Год назад
Dave, you’ve buggered your milk crate 😳
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
🤣
@johnardron4383
@johnardron4383 Год назад
Awesome
@markpercival4511
@markpercival4511 Год назад
Very interesting video as per usual, I am fitting the same box to a 1.6 crossflow so will be watching and taking notes.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Let's hope it works then 😊😊
@robinstewart4729
@robinstewart4729 Год назад
another great video dave
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@theflyingferret77
@theflyingferret77 Год назад
This is really great Dave, thanks for showing this process...making an adapter plate isn't something that's seen much even on youtube. I'm curious as to how you're going to make up the additional width of the plate in the engagement of the input shaft on the spigot bearing....or maybe there's enough stock (length on the shaft) there where you won't need to worry about it? Also, I'm hoping this Mk1 Escort playlist of yours never gets lost as I have my own Mk1 waiting for complete resto-mod-ration! It's gonna sit for a few years until the kids have grown up so these vids need to be here for when the time comes. Thanks for all that you do.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks for you comment mate, hopefully the videos will remain on the tube 😊
@RetroCarsReborn
@RetroCarsReborn Год назад
amazing video im so glad your doing something similar to me as iv watched loads of videos on these plates being made and tried to make one so far doing my head in but you made it look simple and thats what i like so hopefully i can move my project along with this video 👍
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Ah brilliant, I hope I can get it to work then, no pressure 🤣
@RetroCarsReborn
@RetroCarsReborn Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk well il do a vid making mine see how it goes 👍 Everyone goes to fitzees channel for his cut and butt video now Everyone will come to you for this conversion plate 👌
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@@RetroCarsReborn ha thanks 😊
@bigsquatchsasfoot1964
@bigsquatchsasfoot1964 Год назад
Clever stuff , so I’m thinking as long as the splines and the shaft diameters are the same it’s probable you could fit any gearbox on any engine ( within reason ) ! Obviously front and rear wheel drives are different . Great vid Dave you may have just answered a huge question for me or at least made a project more doable 👌🙏👍
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Watch this space, the input shaft is the right diameter for the spigot bearing, which is a good start. The splines can be different, may need to hybridize an mx5 clutch and mondeo clutch, we will see.
@GPH2474
@GPH2474 Год назад
I'm no expert but I'm guessing it may be about ratios..another great vid for us armchair shedheads.
@robertsmith5525
@robertsmith5525 Год назад
that's cooler than dang it
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks 😊
@michaelh3032
@michaelh3032 Год назад
Brilliant series I’ve been watching from the start 👌 I have just finished making my own adapter at the weekend for the same engine and gearbox. If I had of waited a couple days I would of saved alot of hassle for myself 😂 i couldn’t find any info on this match of engine and box I actually thought I had the gearbox that retroford do the adapter plate for but didn’t realise there were different boxes and went ahead and bought the adapter plate 🙄
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
How did you get on with the clutch side of things?
@michaelh3032
@michaelh3032 Год назад
Didn’t get that far yet I actually I just wanted the adapter to mock engine and gearbox to the car (mk2 escort) I’d say it’ll be a while before I’ll be sorting the clutch. I did notice the std st170 flywheel hit the bell housing at the bottom but the std flywheel is thicker than the solid flywheel so might not be an issue
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@michaelh30 I ditch the standard st170 flywheel, it's a dual mass thing that's huge and heavy, a mondeo 1.8 or 2.0 flywheel fits, and fits nicely into the gearbox.
@julianstarkey9301
@julianstarkey9301 Год назад
Great video, any reason Alu not being used for the final adaptor plate?
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Julian, yep, if I use Ali it'll need to be much thicker, I need to keep it as close as possible. Shame though, cos Ali is nicer to work with...
@neiljarvis8911
@neiljarvis8911 Год назад
Excellent engineering skills in action again Dave. Pity you coldn't have used your little lathe to make a little temporary bush insted of the socket and insulating tape on the end of the 1st motion shaft..... probably just as accurate though, given that the cardboard is transfering the markings. You will get your chance with the lathe to make a phosphor bronze bush for the mazda first motion shaft into the end of the zetec crank. Brilliant stuff, is there anything you wont try yourself.
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
Thanks Neil, I simply forgot to use the lathe 🤣. And I won't do plastering 😊, tried it once, and was awful at it 🤣
@neiljarvis8911
@neiljarvis8911 Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk I know what you mean about plastering🤣! Have you had a sneaky measure to see if there is a gap between engine block and bellhousing with the spiggot bearing diameter engaged into the crank bore? If all else fails and the gearbox has a removable bellhousing, you could always use a ford bellhousing and make an adapter at the gearbox end. I have similar setup on a ford smallblock 302 with a Getrag 5 speed XJS box. The adaptor plate is about 1" thick and sits betwen gearbox and bellhousing. The large variety of different ford bellhousings can allow the correct depth for spiggot bush engagement and a concentric bush of nylon or delrin can be used to adapt the difference in gearbox and bellhousing spiggot diameters and geep the shafts concentric. Love what you are doing, btw the sump was an artform!
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@Neil Jarvis hi Neil, I've had a quick size up, yet to measure properly, should be ok. Unfortunately the bellhousing is all one, so not an option.
@neiljarvis8911
@neiljarvis8911 Год назад
@@DavesGarageuk I thought that might be the case, 6mm steel for the adapter will give more engagement and if not enough you could always turn an extended top hat spiggot bush to support the shaft allowing for the friction plate protrusion past the flywheel face and some friction material wear. Good luck, next episode can't come quick enough! Definately best petrol head channel on youtube now. Btw, did you know David Vizard has a channel now, I bet you remember him from the eighties!
@DavesGarageuk
@DavesGarageuk Год назад
@Neil Jarvis cheers Neil 😊, yep started following David Vizard, what a legend to share his knowledge 👏
@bennockley
@bennockley 9 месяцев назад
, GoodOnYa Mate, I'll Let Ya Know, Be a Bit Warmer!!!, Down In Ozzie??, Good Show, Hopefully
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