Ford Expedition vs Lexus LX: I Take Two Big SUVs Off-Road and Pick a Winner 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Expedition 100%

The Toyota will outlive 2 iof those fords

Lauchlan Still We have a 2004 Expedition with 260k miles on it and still running strong.

Humberto Gonzalez I have read that the first Generation Expeditions last as long as the Toyota Sequoias! Hope yours keeps running strong. I like both the first Gen Sequoia and the Expeditions.

Yeah I was thinking the same but still the Ford did better than I thought it would.

or navigator instead, I have a 2003 navigator and 2004 lexus gx470.. the verdict goes to long term reliability.. after 15 yrs the lincoln is completely trash while the lexus is still pristine..

Arthur Esclamada Oh, from that era, I’m not surprised. 03-06 Navigator used the cheapest leather, cheapest plastic and had garbage electronics. The 2007 to present Navigators are FAR better and their poor resale value makes it easy to get into a very good , pre-owned, large Luxury SUV for a steal of a deal like Alley McBeal clubbing a seal with an orange peel Happy Meal on the Wonder Wheel!

@Jonathan Losito wait why???

@Jonathan Losito What a poor decision. They will regret this soon

and a v8 engine and a short version

Just think how quickly all the suburbanite mothers could get to Starbucks after dropping the kids off at soccer practice.

That would be very cool!.. Ford does have the Bronco coming though!

Perhaps that is what the future Excursion (That Ford just trademarked again) will be. That name so fits with an overlander.

The Expedition Platinum is turned very similar to the Raptor. Quite a bit more power than the Limited.

Agree, and GM. Why is everyone buying Yukons and Tahoe's?

@@paulbram2 seriously. I know people that have had Escalades and say the expedition rides much better

@@paulbram2 This is coming from a 50 year of experience with SHITY GM cars. If you want to live the rest of your life headache and trouble free , steer a way from any American/European cars at all! Stick with Toyota/Lexus and you will live happily forever. Yes, they usually cost a bit more than American cars when new, but they will outlast any of them and most likely your grandchildren will inherit them.

I had an expedition as a rental when my pickup was getting body work done a few months ago. Didn't like it. Steering was twitchy. You had to hold on tight because if you lets go or let your grip loose it would snap back to the center real quick when turning or changing lanes. Felt like it was spring loaded. Took some practice to make smooth turns and lane changes. The transmission hunted gears also, and it always shocked the hell out of me everytime I got out. The worst part was when I went to pass a slow car on a 2 lane road. I hit the gas, there was a bang followed by clicking/grinding and a bunch of warning messages on the dash. Looked like a Christmas tree. Aside from being a little quicker, our sequoia drove better and never had any of the quirks and errors the expedition had. Not to mention the 3rd row seats in the expedition wouldnt fold unless the 2nd row was upright. Even if they were slightly reclined they didn't work. Also dodnt have this problem with the sequoia. In town the fuel economy was about the same, but on the hwy the expedition averaged about 2mpg better than our sequoia, but that was negligible for the peace of mind and better steering in the sequoia. I had actually considered looking at an expedition but that rental changed that.

@@benwilliams9172 The expedition does ride better because it has fully independent suspension vs solid axle in the escalade.

I wanna see that ride

Adam Huskins you should make a review and send it to them. Would love to see it

please also make a very basic one that I can afford. I can live without all the tech quirks.

Yes people confuse it with Land Cruiser suspension. Amazing how these guys do all these videos and still get shit like this wrong.

this is cause they really don't know about vehicles. they are just presenters. i realized this a while ago when he didn't even know what a control arm looked like.

Shaun R 🤝

yes it does, since 2007

@@jasonhansen6632 unfortunately that's incorrect. LX570 has low pressure hydraulic system called Automatic Height Control (AHC). The Land Cruiser has conventional suspension with kdss

@Jonathan Losito hahahaha who needs its all about who cares about touch or type I think only lazy guy like u want that apple touch screen and all shit carry on with that boring ford

Jonathan Losito buying a car based on its infotainment system is about as stupid as buying a home based on the appliances that comes along with it.

@@huythai1222 couldn't agree more mate 👍

@@abbas8122 lol toyota lexus what's fun about driving those boring underpowered car's

It should be Lincoln Navigator vs Lexus. Ford should be compared to Toyota.

Chris R the 2017 expedition was before the redesign and was like a 15 year old design at that point, I have heard the new ones are built much better.

@@mabbook I've driven the newer ones. They are not built better.

Thanks for the kind words!

They've tested just about every full size SUV that last few years and had a Land Cruiser project vehicle (if you think a LX/LC is a full size SUV).

dude i really didnt need to know that

😭

And retained value...

Don't act like that test is already decided, my friend has a 10 year old Lexus landcruiser and he's already put over $10,000 in repairs into it. Mostly because of the complex braking/traction system and the air suspension.

Very True!!

Both are going to be much more expensive, almost everything made since 2010 is junk. Meanwhile my 2006 Silverado with 180K miles has had less than $2000 in repairs over its entire lifespan.

@@Wade-lk4yo ya have you ever price a starter replacement on that Lexus? It's twice as expensive as a Ford Turbo replacement.

I still don't know why Toyota dealerships have repair shops.

save 2,256 gallons of fuel ( around $5,000 ) and $30,000 less, ( plus interest, financing ) Ford Expedition win

Well if your thinking durability we just sold a 1998 Explorer 100% original 250,000 miles daily driver nothing but fluids and tires. My 93 Landcruiser needed lots of expensive stuff done at 150,000 or it was done. My brothers 98 LC has had lots of expensive repairs exhaust headers etc also. Funny enough both of us now drive new Ford trucks. 20 yrs of Toyotas for me and honestly there’s nothing Toyota has today I’d bother owning.

@@U20E27 My dad had an Explorer from the same era that went to the junk yard at 120k miles and he replaced it with a 4Runner that's never been in the shop for 150k miles through dirt and snow. Ain't anecdotal evidence grand? The Land Cruiser is the longest lasting vehicle ever made by a country mile and that's backed by statistical evidence. Check the TFL video on longest lasting vehicles if you don't believe me.

@@mechmat12345 Toyota is Weak ..IFS Suspension is Very Weak...Way too big for trail running and it's has No Ground Clearance...Gayota!!!

Ford’s f series trucks are super reliable but I don’t like high stressed eco techs. Lexus’s reliability is unquestionable

"I got a new Navigator because I'm fancy tho" haha that's exactly what I'd do, and say LOL

Nice flex 😬

Based on diagonal and roller tests I've seen that Jeep and Ford tend to perform the best

Why would Ford need to borrow anything from Land Rover when they have been making off-road vehicles since WW2? They made Jeeps for the US Government in WW2 along with Willys And aside from that they produced the Bronco for decades and are currently selling a new Bronco along with the F150 Raptor Land Rover 🤣

@@joecool9739 the 4wd system on the Land Rover is a better system than Ford had. That is only one of the reasons why Ford purchased Land Rover. Just because they made 4wd vehicle doesn’t mean there isn’t better. The system on the Land Rover is possibly the best, but reliability for the rest of the vehicle is crap. But Ford does have its own issues with recalls and fit and finish now. Ford did make a Bronco II, and used a twin ibeam system at one time. Useless is what they were.

Seriously, shoot anything over 50k for me is a BLUR@#$$@!#$!#$!@#$!@#$

They all are crazy

As with anything else, prices are going up!

Those are tanks!

Jonathan Losito I have had my expedition for 5 years and the interior looks great and mind you I have 3 boys all under the age of 10 . It has held up real well surprisingly , I used to buy nothing but GM and Toyota and this was my first Ford , very happy with it and not going to be getting rid of it anytime soon .

I second Angry Chili Mango. I have a 2007 EL lifted with 34" AT's and it's an amazing sleeper as in it will go almost anywhere and you can hardly tell that its been modified. You really have no idea that its lifted with big tires by looking at it unless its parked next to a jeep and then you say, huh I didn't realize Expy's could have ground clearance. Still drives great on the highway, far and away the best ride of any 4x4 overlander that I've ever been in. Stock traction control electronically locks up both the front and rear diffs. And I love the thought that goes into jenga packing overland gear into tiny spaces like a 4Runner, but for day to day adventuring I don't know how you go any smaller than a full size SUV. Its still shorter than a 4door truck, but without the bed/cab separation so you get more max capacity, better security for long term storage, can legitimately do extended overlands with 4 grown adults, don't have crap hanging off every exterior surface, and during the week you can haul 7 people with all the beach/sports gear you want. The only problem is that its so damn perfect than when it dies I just know that I'm going to spend way more money than I want to to build another one. Although when I hear numbers for other overland builds I don't really feel that bad. How did it become normal to spend 70K on a freakin car?

Jason Azuma Very well said , I too feel like there’s no other SUV like the expy , amazing in every way . I was wondering what lift do you have ? And also has it affected the ride quality ? I also have the locking front and rear and it’s freaking amazing , I took it off-roading once and made it pretty far back into the desert and I had doubters and naysayers pretty quiet and impressed with how well it did .

I used the ReadyLift 3/2 and upgraded to Bilstein B6 4600 shocks. It doesn’t feel at all top heavy and not sure if it’s more shocks, geometry, or tires but I feel like it’s a significantly smoother and tighter ride on road. Off road I have to air down if I don’t want to get beat to death, but the ground clearance is an incredible 12.5”. And yeah I’ve run it all around Death Valley, Mohave, Big Bear and people are always shaking their heads in disbelief. The fully independent suspension with massive anti sway bars does not allow for much articulation so thank goodness for those locking diffs! Also the fact that even the EL version has a shorter wheelbase than the Gladiator...what?!

Of course. Or just buy a Land Cruiser instead. 17" Tundra wheels are very popular on the LC and should fit the LX. Lots of people outfit the LX for off-roading/overlanding so there's lots of info out there if you're really interested.

It’s not even a competition 😂

The GX is a prado where as the LX is just a standard LC

Or just buy one that's two years old since they haven't changed in forever. It will still outlast a brand new Ford.

mechmat12345 they dont depreciate much in two years

@@mechmat12345 outlast wow you know about future kid

The expedition will leave the payment when it makes it's way to the junkyard

Maybe not in the first couple years, but there are a lot of LX 450s running around on trails so it follows that these will be before long.

@Luis Bolanos Mini van? What you talkin about?

@@daniels2761 You can't compare these to an LX450. An LX450 is way more capable off road than either of these. Solid front axle, locking diffs, not nearly as much electronic crap.

@@Ryno-fp7pm I get what you are saying, but it stands to reason that if LX's and Land Cruisers from years past have made it onto trails, these will too. People take Range Rovers off road for crying out loud.

What does it offer for people who want to lease a car though. Nothing ?

@@Natethegreat200c shouldnt be leasing anyways, at least if you value your hard earned money. Besides lease deals on the Lexus make it only marginally more than the Ford.

Alan Bowers Lessing makes for a more pleasurable experience on your daily commutes. No one wants to keep buying cars every 10 years paying top dollar.

@@Natethegreat200c So you'd be happy shelling out $25-30k every 3 years just to have that? I'm not paying a dime currently and even if I bought new every 10 years, I'd be saving tons. No less pleasurable on the daily commute either.

Nathaniel Rudolph That’s different for us we gladly put down 50k on a new LX570 and finance the rest for 0% APR

Because Lexus is fancy :P They also tuned the engine for premium instead of regular so you can get like 3 extra horsepower.

8.2 L?

Doesn't exist yet

Agreed, or instead of Sequoia at least pair the Lexus against the Lincoln Navigator. That'd be a neat comparison too.

Worldwide quality LEXUS

The donkey wins!

That arabian horse is over priced

This is scam American people make reviews on American car ? Guess what who is going to win

Francisco Herrera Francisco, drive a pink Volkswagen Jetta!

I own one you get far more articulation in high

Reliability doesn’t matter with a luxury car. That’s why it’s not a luxury car because them trying to be reliable is holding it back.

Ya. Front Torsen differential out of the Raptor and a 2" lift with 34" tires would make the Expedition a real monster off road!

it would last over 300k miles though....

@@mchuo7834 they both will. I've seen a 3.5 eco F-150 with over 650,000 km's on it. It was a professional Hot Shot truck. Not an easy life either.

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 yeah, but every part on the vehicle probably had to be replaced. Definitely not getting to 650 on stock turbo. And that's a big job to replace.

@@mchuo7834 they claimed it had nothing replaced. Stock engine and trans. Just wearable parts like brakes, filters, oil and plugs. It is cheaper to replace both turbo's on the Ford then it is to replace the starter on the Lexus.

Easier than pushing a button? :P Lifting an actual Land Cruiser is not a problem at all.

I have owned 3 LX570s, 1 LX470, I put about 350000 miles between them and I had 0 issues. - Zero been to 5000k cross country trips in crazy rains and snow storms. Mountain biking in the mountains where are no roads, The Lx has never let me down

uzi z I have both a 570 and 470 and I think the lx470 rides better. What’s your opinion, was your 470 more comfortable?

No, You're Wrong

Lmao obviously you don’t know cars and just listen to the magazines, expeditions are usually pretty reliable and I see plenty of first gens on the road 🤷🏽‍♂️ we had a 97 and it went to 270k before we finally traded up

chancelor massey nobody is saying that the ford is unreliable. they're just saying that the lexus is going to last longer in the long run. nothing wrong with the ford, just toyota has built the LX with reliability in mind.

They did and the transmission overheated early in the test.

Thanks you sir

Not really, you would be amazed at the number of 20+ yr old expeditions still in daily use. Faster depreciation and more maintenance possibly, but the expeditions can last if you take care of them.

@@engineeringVirtue lol comparing what was 20 years to today does not apply when it comes to Ford or GM, it wont last 6 years.

@@engineeringVirtue those new EcoBoost engines arnt really designed to last 20 years without failures, they're cheap to produce and do make good numbers but after warranty is over I personally wouldn't own a ford twin turbo v6, thanks but no thanks. LX & Landcruisers are engineered to last 25 years with no major component failures, the only vehicles that do so. If it were my money I'd skip the extra fluff of the LX and get the 200 series

If you think any modern Toyota/Lexus will be running in 20 years you're delirious. Despite what the fanboys claim their reliability is nothing special anymore