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Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 VS BMW M2 -TRACK REVIEW // One Track Mind Ep. 4 

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We pit the GT350 against the M2 in a FULL TRACK TEST with drag races and lap times. These cars are closer than you think! Toronto Motorsports Park is the perfect place to test the limits of two very different cars.
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@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 6 лет назад
I'm glad everyone is getting so into this discussion. To clear up a few points for everyone: We chose the M2 with the DCT because with that option they come in at the same price here in Canada. The manual M2 is a big chunk cheaper, and then it would have lost and people would have called us out for it being unfair. Next, the reason the M2 won on the track was simply because of this type of track. Very twisty, very tight, lots of sharp corners. The wheelbase and size of the Mustang simply won't allow it to get through the tight stuff as well. On a bigger faster track the mustang would have had it for sure. Many have said that Colin looks like he's driving slowly and short shifting. I can assure you he is driving the tires off those two cars. He is just a very very smooth driver so it doesn't look very dramatic. He knows what he is doing though. He has many, many Autocross, Time Attack, and Karting victories to his name. Next, many have challenged the fact that I said the BMW is more refined and the Mustang is "cheap" feeling. Sadly thats the truth. The build quality of the M2 is far superior. Lastly, because this got such a good response, we are currently trying to put together the bigger brothers. The GT350R and the M4. Let me know what else you want to see! Thanks for watching.
@fozilito
@fozilito 6 лет назад
E46 Reviews with T.H. N
@nicenow25
@nicenow25 6 лет назад
E46 Reviews with T.H. because of this comment and its emphasis. I subscribed
@jkheslekrants
@jkheslekrants 6 лет назад
E46 Reviews with T.H. i would like to See the M4, SS1LE and GT350 Track Pack on a more diverse track. Tight twisties and decent straights/sweepers
@tomtom255
@tomtom255 6 лет назад
I think on a different track the gt350 would be at least a few seconds faster than the M2 considering the gt350R is quicker than the m4 gts. Did this mustang have the track pack? What shape were the tires in? Was the driving consuming large amounts of gold medicine earlier in the day? Honestly I love the M2 but since bmw abandoned na racing engines and ford had the balls to build the voodoo and put it in a track ready mustang, they get my vote.
@henzo7087
@henzo7087 6 лет назад
Mustang has way more hp than BMW
@michaelthebarbarian3380
@michaelthebarbarian3380 Год назад
I have to say, the GT-350 is one of the greatest things to come out of the USA. An absolute masterpiece.
@tysonblankemeyer5500
@tysonblankemeyer5500 5 лет назад
When I watch these comparisons, I don't listen to the facts and data. I listen to the number of times that the host giggles. You giggled more when driving the 'stang.
@C10_Benz
@C10_Benz 5 лет назад
Lol sold my mach 1 today and took the guy on a drive he couldn't stop giggling
@steviedee71
@steviedee71 4 года назад
tyson blankemeyer Now that’s how you compare cars nicely said 👌💯
@-_-Raziel
@-_-Raziel 4 года назад
Manual vs auto ...... Meh... More hp vs less hp..... meh..... Of course it will feel better
@LongNguyen-lx8if
@LongNguyen-lx8if 4 года назад
VRaziel lighten up
@a.edw.160
@a.edw.160 3 года назад
jimmysp4des oof.
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 5 лет назад
Flat crank high rpm + manual + snake in front = EASY choice
@MrDarkwar989
@MrDarkwar989 5 лет назад
BMW!!!
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
its a no brainer :)
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
@@MrDarkwar989 ok :)
@texandrifter6724
@texandrifter6724 3 года назад
@@MrDarkwar989 ... no
@someone123421
@someone123421 3 года назад
m2
@LPDarkSoulsHD
@LPDarkSoulsHD 2 года назад
Two VERY different realms here. I love it. The M cars are always sleek and unsuspecting. You see them on the road and your first thoughts are "That looks a bit meaner than a normal bimmer. What's with those sharp mirrors? Can I take this thing??" But when you see a GT350 out on the road you are immediately intimidated by it. The snake emblem is obvious, it sits low and when you hear that voodoo gurgle past you your brain says "I definitely cannot take this thing." Both cars are dangerous and will smoke you if you're not ready but the energy they give off is worlds apart. Great comparison!
@westonmoore3914
@westonmoore3914 Год назад
This comment is beautiful haha
@LPDarkSoulsHD
@LPDarkSoulsHD Год назад
@@westonmoore3914 Thanks man 😂👌
@randallboone9375
@randallboone9375 Год назад
You know what I love BMWs but you so right lol.
@thedoomslayer2468
@thedoomslayer2468 Год назад
Basically GT350 = Broli. Big, loud, and scary M series = Frieza’s final form. Elegant and reserved but deadly
@LPDarkSoulsHD
@LPDarkSoulsHD Год назад
@@thedoomslayer2468 Have a thumbs up, sir. DBZ is my love language 😂.
@zombieslogic8390
@zombieslogic8390 6 лет назад
Like both cars, but if I ever win the lottery first thing I'm buying is a GT350
@cornman-re5th
@cornman-re5th 3 года назад
Dont forget to pick up a gt500 too
@ricardogarcia-lopez4107
@ricardogarcia-lopez4107 3 года назад
Don’t forget they are all ass hell cat will smoke them all and a demon
@ar_mobile9728
@ar_mobile9728 3 года назад
NoHurts around a track? No
@godisaliveglobalismisdead8819
@godisaliveglobalismisdead8819 3 года назад
NoHurts they are ass? Lol are you fr bro or just the bored you have to troll
@kamuelakawaakoa5512
@kamuelakawaakoa5512 3 года назад
Make sure there's an r at the end lol
@martinzarate9262
@martinzarate9262 5 лет назад
Nothing better than a flat plain crank v8 sound at 8,000rpm. It's orgasmic
@vishalakula8451
@vishalakula8451 4 года назад
Bruh, it's called a flat-plane crank V8, it has a 180 degree angle between the crank throws. There's no such thing as flat plain crank v8.
@user-yv1bf4rx7r
@user-yv1bf4rx7r 4 года назад
@@vishalakula8451 relax dude, that's what he meant
@JAM_2024
@JAM_2024 4 года назад
Until it ends up in the shop
@alecw7063
@alecw7063 4 года назад
Q J and the bmw won’t?
@masonhud3247
@masonhud3247 4 года назад
8,250
@nicomeier8098
@nicomeier8098 4 года назад
Drives the BMW and compliments it on road-holding, interior etc. . Switches to the Mustang and immediately has a huge grin on his face. Says it all.
@alexandercoll5617
@alexandercoll5617 4 года назад
Nico Meier mustang also had a manual
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 4 года назад
Lmao, true!
@michaelarchangelthehammer
@michaelarchangelthehammer 3 года назад
Viceral
@brandont7214
@brandont7214 3 года назад
BMW looks better and can come in Manuel. Butthurt Stang fanbois make me laugh
@bottomtext5473
@bottomtext5473 3 года назад
@@brandont7214 it did not take it on looks, and your the Beamer fanboy because your complaining about losing this comparison
@talkto20john
@talkto20john 5 лет назад
Shelby really knows how to make American cars go around corners, really impressive
@Pigpen76
@Pigpen76 4 года назад
shelby had nothing to do with it. all Ford Performance division
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
@@Pigpen76 no.
@Domepeezy
@Domepeezy 3 года назад
@@Pigpen76 nope
@nyckae8587
@nyckae8587 3 года назад
@@Pigpen76 yea Brody it most definitely is Shelby
@weasle2904
@weasle2904 2 года назад
@@nyckae8587 No he's right, the newest GT350 has Shelby only as a nameplate. It's all developed by Ford
@John-Adams-Can
@John-Adams-Can 6 лет назад
"The Mustang just looks like it wants to beat your over the head with your own legs!" Awesome description.
@slowstang88
@slowstang88 3 года назад
@Andrew Tra Who the fuck cares about anyone's opinion of purchases?
@chadidfwu3465
@chadidfwu3465 3 года назад
@Andrew Tra wtf kinda salty comment is that? And the M2 doesn’t just scream that you wear flip flops with blue jeans, a polo that’s too tight, and gelled hair? GTFOH
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
@Andrew Tra wtf u high bro?
@noladude5046
@noladude5046 3 года назад
@Andrew Tra honestly, can’t believe you haven’t deleted your reckless comment.lol
@SDF5150
@SDF5150 6 лет назад
To be honest...you're gonna have a good time in either vehicle!
@blakebergerbb
@blakebergerbb 6 лет назад
Only decent comment in this thread
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 6 лет назад
Yes, comments are full of people who can't afford either. When it comes down to spending 50K+ people decide based on their brand preference, the deal they are getting, the example of the car being shown and the test drive. Nobody buys one over the other because of a 1.2s difference on a track test on youtube. At the end of the day buying a sports car is an emotional decision when it comes to it. A lot of thinking may happen before but nobody could ever spend their hard earned cash for a car their heart is not in, numbers don't come into it, it's how the numbers feel like.
@bilibiliism
@bilibiliism 6 лет назад
Thanks god we have at least one good person in the town. You saved us from divine punishment.
@liammaggs2985
@liammaggs2985 5 лет назад
Thank you. You have lighted up this stupid comments section.
@datsuntoyy
@datsuntoyy 5 лет назад
But which one would you have a better time in on a long drive to work or a road trip to a neighboring state? Most people will never see a track.
@jasonclark1338
@jasonclark1338 5 лет назад
Currently I own a F10 M5 and a week ago I bought a GT350. It’s hard to make choices between these two cars as they are so different. After driving the GT350 for a week I think it is a very well built vehicle with massive raw power and tremendous sound. I normally don’t attract any attention when I drive M5, but a lot when I am in the GT350. It is just an awesome car.
@mtadc1545
@mtadc1545 10 месяцев назад
Not attracting attention is why I loved older BMWs. 👌🏾
@avinavpradhan3829
@avinavpradhan3829 3 года назад
The sound of any mustang just makes me smile. I don't know how. The mustang took over the drag strip except for the first time when things didn't go as planned.
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
yezzsirrrr
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
u are a true mustang lover i see :D me too.
@avinavpradhan3829
@avinavpradhan3829 3 года назад
@@HEATHENS5074 💯🤜🤛
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
@@avinavpradhan3829 🔥🔥🔥
@faithgee5042
@faithgee5042 2 года назад
@@HEATHENS5074 liquql
@peterrusso7336
@peterrusso7336 Год назад
the sheer difference between the videos from back then and now on this channel is just crazy
@no5thgear311
@no5thgear311 Год назад
Came back to watch one of the older vids and honestly I have to say, without comparing it to the newer ones, this is still pretty good. Glad you picked up James what an awesome duo
@6mtv85
@6mtv85 5 лет назад
This video helped influence me into buying a GT350. Thanks for posting.
@youtried9401
@youtried9401 5 лет назад
6MT V8 how is it for daily use?
@23indeed1
@23indeed1 4 года назад
You Tried life’s too short to worry about gas prices bro lol
@jamiecoe6952
@jamiecoe6952 4 года назад
Same here love mine!
@shanefowler9443
@shanefowler9443 4 года назад
@@jamiecoe6952 picking mine up tomorrow!
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 4 года назад
You can't go wrong with a GT 350!
@khimaros
@khimaros 5 лет назад
"It's like there's five Miatas under the hood!" Love enthusiastic reviewers, a joy to watch, cheers
@XenoKaizen
@XenoKaizen Месяц назад
James needs to come back and wath this video in 2024 🤣
@racer5674
@racer5674 6 лет назад
The smile on his face while driving the GT350 says it all. I have the same stupid smile on my face every time I drive mine. :)
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 4 года назад
The Mustang has my heart --- always. I'd love to see a review on the Shelby GT500.
@DumbCarGuy
@DumbCarGuy 4 года назад
I can't wait to get a GT350... Oh wait, I did. Its Fantastic
@billjones9909
@billjones9909 4 года назад
Mines is on the way
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 4 года назад
Congratulations! A GT350 is the way to go for endless fun.
@paxtonulrich7673
@paxtonulrich7673 4 года назад
My dad just got the gt350r
@DumbCarGuy
@DumbCarGuy 4 года назад
@@paxtonulrich7673 but will he let you drive it?
@paxtonulrich7673
@paxtonulrich7673 4 года назад
Jeff Fleischman Yeah bro, I get to drive it this weekend, I’m so excited
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 6 лет назад
Very, very well done. Thanks for a great video! Looking forward to more.
@ethownzbh
@ethownzbh 6 лет назад
Awesome video man. For the head to head though, I'd find it much easier to follow both simultaneously if vertically they were at the same height and in the middle of the screen and if one changes to a different camera angle at a certain part of the track and the other clip did the same It would be much easier to see the time split. Other than that I have nothing to add. Your production value far exceededs your channel's traffic, keep it up.
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 6 лет назад
+Ethanmeister thanks for the feedback. Yea we are trying that style out to see what people say. I'll eventually land on a method I like for the lap times
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 4 года назад
That 'sh*t eating grin' is priceless. I will own a GT350 one day.
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
yez sir..i would love to own one myself
@djtodorov
@djtodorov 5 лет назад
Both Cars are fun in their own ways. This was a great review. The 350 was one of the cars I was considering, but for me the M2 was the more enjoyable option. My other considerations were the Porsche Cayman S and the Challenger Hellcat. Ultimately went with the M2C and didn't regret my decision.
@nathanielh7677
@nathanielh7677 6 лет назад
"It sounds like freedom!" That's right, welcome to america my friend.
@hallquiche
@hallquiche 6 лет назад
America is rigged.
@peteb1854
@peteb1854 6 лет назад
+HeHoZy Haha, yeah I guess...and like a lot of things American, there's gotta be significant collateral damage. Shit, just think of how you feel 10 minutes after eating a Big Mac!!
@dreray4077
@dreray4077 6 лет назад
I your an american, And you think your free in America, Your a goddamned fool.
@peteb1854
@peteb1854 6 лет назад
+Dre Ray It's a quaint notion though. I can see why some people cling to it.
@ericc1316
@ericc1316 6 лет назад
Nathaniel H welcome to Euro Son!😂😂
@MrDaviddannunzio
@MrDaviddannunzio 6 лет назад
Nicely done - think you did a great job getting to essence of both cars.
@laxr5rs
@laxr5rs 5 лет назад
You did a really great job on this video. Smart, funny, but never irritating. Great sound, good vocal tone, good sound for the cars. Subcribed!
@jm9371
@jm9371 5 лет назад
I own and love my a 2018 M2 with DCT. Great video, I think you nailed the personalities and advantages of both cars. Which one makes you feel better wins....period.
@itchyonion3559
@itchyonion3559 4 года назад
James Mason m2 is just better
@JohnMFlores
@JohnMFlores 6 лет назад
The Mustang made you smile way more. End of story.
@stevequantie8064
@stevequantie8064 6 лет назад
Not as much as big jacked-up Jeep at a tailgating party!
@Nenmeu2
@Nenmeu2 6 лет назад
Yep
@Napster60
@Napster60 6 лет назад
There are people that like mustangs because of how they make you feel and then there are people that haven't driven one.
@confinez555
@confinez555 6 лет назад
Except when you wanna slide some curves M2 is way better
@goga511
@goga511 6 лет назад
lol dont compare this fart I6 to V8,new BMWs are lame and their sound gettint more worse...
@TonioN
@TonioN 3 года назад
Which so ever car comes, Mustang has a seperate fan base❤️
@AmericanBusinessman422
@AmericanBusinessman422 2 года назад
Made of retards
@joeleonard9965
@joeleonard9965 2 года назад
@@AmericanBusinessman422 Bruh I spit out my drink
@ShootingMOA
@ShootingMOA 4 года назад
This was one fun video to watch and the fact that you did the quarter mile more than once was awesome
@joshuaruss3257
@joshuaruss3257 5 лет назад
bro you should review everything, very professional review, you mention all the right things
@rauleyshar3635
@rauleyshar3635 6 лет назад
I am a beemer guy, but I will also take GT350. That Sound is just phenomenal! Not sure if it is the age factor, but the GT350 is heck of a car for the money.
@truechampoftrance
@truechampoftrance 4 года назад
I need to see the 2020 GT 350R now sharing the same GT500 set up against the M2 Competition. Both in manual, make it happen you two!
@DroneWolfMedia
@DroneWolfMedia 5 лет назад
Never been a Mustang fan, even though they have improved dramatically over the years. I do love the symphony coming from under the hood though. There's just no beating the driving experience of a BMW.. not only as a daily driver, but especially through twisty mtn roads.
@jonw6376
@jonw6376 4 года назад
I love match-up, & great interview personality.
@jonrock5578
@jonrock5578 6 лет назад
The sixth gen Mustang is actually extraordinarily comfortable. I'm a BMW enthusiast with a 540i and the new Mustang, and I can say that Ford has produced a veritable contender with this vehicle, in performance, comfort and features. I've personally driven the new Mustang across the entire United States on a single trip, and there is nothing about the interior which merits a single complaint. Of course, my BMW has some finer touches, but the comforts of both are simply premium. All talk beyond that is superfluous and merely hot air to fill the void.
@JS-nd1po
@JS-nd1po Год назад
I would love to be able to drive either of these cars! Awesome you have been able to take the gt350 on a long trip!
@shanefowler9443
@shanefowler9443 9 месяцев назад
​@@JS-nd1poI've taken my gt350 on 11 hour road trips and back twice now no problem very comfy
@usmc2141ilya
@usmc2141ilya 5 лет назад
He had a much bigger smile driving the mustang... Mustang wins imo.
@a.edw.160
@a.edw.160 3 года назад
Blob bad takes are bad
@chadidfwu3465
@chadidfwu3465 3 года назад
@Blob still more fun and attention grabbing than a bmw will ever be.
@sterlingroberts6240
@sterlingroberts6240 4 года назад
That eye-roll at 8:48-8:52...You can't fake that enthusiasm. Heart reacts only.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 4 года назад
The cheap plastic helps keep the Mustang affordable relative to similarly powered European competition. Why does everyone not get that?
@rickeybarnes6471
@rickeybarnes6471 4 года назад
I have owned 8 stangs and over years that plastic interior holds up very well compared to other interiors with soft materials. My 94 Gt was 20 years old and the interior looked very good, my two 03 Mach 1’s , 03 Cobra , 68 stang, and my 2012 Boss interiors all look good years later. Presently, my 2017 Gt 350 interior looks pretty good to me and I expect it to wear very well as the years add up. Great comment.
@mustangsally366
@mustangsally366 4 года назад
William Jordan We don’t buy a mustang for the fancy interior..
@uvafan940
@uvafan940 4 года назад
@@mustangsally366 They had to drop down to the 2 series to compare the two. Heh!
@Daedalus33
@Daedalus33 4 года назад
Pretty much. Price to performance Mustangs beat almost all German cars out there.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 4 года назад
@@mustangsally366 Obviously.
@HippieSkippy100
@HippieSkippy100 6 лет назад
Lol that smile he had at the beginning with the Mustang tho. That’s what’s up! You want a car that makes you smile every time you step on the gas.
@magnificentblac
@magnificentblac 5 лет назад
Are you kidding me? A family friendly muscle car is the perfect compromise.
@headinghome8914
@headinghome8914 2 года назад
I miss my 02 mustang gt, it couldn't hold a candle to these cars but whenever I started her up and I heard her engine rumble it put a smile on my face.
@ellismcginley8695
@ellismcginley8695 4 года назад
This was a hoot to watch, so well done, thanks.
@amazoidal
@amazoidal 5 лет назад
The M2 after warranty will be what Scotty Kilmer terms: "Endless Money Pit".
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 5 лет назад
hahaha, but the mustang is dog with fuel just easy = get a corolla
@nihilist6806
@nihilist6806 4 года назад
FEGTTTSDH who the fuck cares about fuel we’re talking about performance cars XD
@kriskizer1062
@kriskizer1062 4 года назад
I own a 135i with dct. It likes constant attention and money, but is a great track car.
@1chuck96
@1chuck96 4 года назад
YOU BET!!!
@drx1xym154
@drx1xym154 4 года назад
@@FEGTTTSDH -- this is not the review for you. Just get a Corolla? YIKES! Why so practical???
@hallquiche
@hallquiche 6 лет назад
What an awesome set of cars. I'd love to have both, but if i had to choose, i'd get a manual M2.
@islandon22
@islandon22 3 года назад
I agree with your closing comment. Also, the iconic rep of a Shelby over an "M" resonates far more with me.
@175psi
@175psi 5 лет назад
I liked your closing argument "everything that happens after 6000 rpm" made a lot of sense.
@stevemorales7055
@stevemorales7055 4 года назад
I’m i the only one who fast forward to when the stang comes out ? lol
@someone123421
@someone123421 3 года назад
idk why youd do that and miss the greatness of the m2 review too
@saad258969
@saad258969 3 года назад
Me too!
@Condor1970
@Condor1970 5 лет назад
I'd love them to do a comparison with the new 2019 Mustang GT w/PP2. Just curious to see how PP2 compares to the BMW's on the track.
@drx1xym154
@drx1xym154 4 года назад
or even the Bullitt Mustang ...
@husky3695
@husky3695 3 года назад
your style of reviewing cars is my favorite. Keep making videos
@Homemus
@Homemus 4 года назад
For me, you're one out of three RU-vid car reviewers that go far and beyond with what they/you do. I'm totally loving the way of you presenting and reviewing the cars of your choice. Mostly put in a little story...great. And then you actually put the vehicles on track and giving them throttle. Even being a German though, I'd always take the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350(R) over any BMW. Because it's pure, straight high reving V8 power wonderfully balanced coming with a price tag that should be putting a smile on every car enthusiast's face.
@pebblesbambamtwins
@pebblesbambamtwins 4 года назад
Try that again with a 2019/2020 GT350 with the Michelin Sport Cup 2’s, and the revised magnetorheological dampers/spring rates, and revised aero. Pretty sure the 0.4 s would be more than overcome.
@supaahflyy
@supaahflyy 4 года назад
Ok then put on the cup 2's on the BMW too then. The whole point is to compare cars. Not compare the difference tyres make
@thisisrob8750
@thisisrob8750 2 года назад
@@supaahflyy or put the M2 CS against it
@thisisrob8750
@thisisrob8750 2 года назад
try with the M2 CS instead
@billcivicsff6808
@billcivicsff6808 4 года назад
Damn that body panel fitment though 0:45
@neelparmar6690
@neelparmar6690 3 года назад
Billcivivs FF yeah, it’s not great is it...
@UltimaRSfan
@UltimaRSfan 3 года назад
Built by Tesla?
@maxoberg4642
@maxoberg4642 3 года назад
@@UltimaRSfan its not that bad
@jimsullivan9104
@jimsullivan9104 5 лет назад
That was a great show - Thanx. Time well spent...
@Sickofnumbers
@Sickofnumbers 2 месяца назад
You guys have done a really good job with this channel. Reminds me of old top great
@kev851
@kev851 4 года назад
Mustang is always a cool stuff. I love it.
@STICKSHFT
@STICKSHFT 6 лет назад
I think the m2 would beat the m4 around that track as well. the m2 seemed well suited for that track
@rskrks
@rskrks 5 лет назад
I'm totally a BMW guy, I have 2. But I must say in recent years American muscle cars really stepped back in the game, the mustang looks beautiful and mean, so are cameros and charger and challenger with the old school look, very appealing. Vettes and vipers are always amazing to me.
@Kazymedic
@Kazymedic 5 лет назад
"It just sounds like Freedom"! Welcome to Murica my friend. Awesome commentary, all joking aside.
@JTL-uv6cm
@JTL-uv6cm 6 лет назад
The m2 is definitely the best M car. However, I think I would rather have the gt350. Ford didn't just make a good performance car out of the gt350, but made a great drivers car. High rpm, great manual gearbox, and the BEST sounding v8 in the past decade. I also found this comparison a bit unfair with auto vs manual. Both great drivers cars.
@xmiggiex
@xmiggiex 5 лет назад
Great video and awesome comparison! But definitely felt like the driver was sandbagging the GT350 during the lap times. I’d choose the Shelby either way. 🤘🏼 #merica
@sherylellingson3538
@sherylellingson3538 5 лет назад
Yes, they seem to do that a lot. Don't want to hurt the B'mer boys feelings.
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 4 года назад
I'll always choose the Mustang.
@mcoeif
@mcoeif 4 года назад
I've seen enough Bimmer-Stang race videos to see the Stang just isn't good enough to be on a Bimmer's level
@ussocom3644
@ussocom3644 3 года назад
BMW M2 Laguna Seca time is 1:40.88, GT350 Laguna Seca time is 1:36.83
@HEATHENS5074
@HEATHENS5074 3 года назад
@@mcoeif ur wrong..
@happyfamily3372
@happyfamily3372 5 лет назад
That was an awesome video!
@bhavyabansal484
@bhavyabansal484 4 года назад
For drag races, you should change the driver's too so it removes any driver bias and gives us a better idea of how driving style, experience, and prowess can affect our performance with the car (if that makes sense)
@Flyingaceful
@Flyingaceful 4 года назад
GT350 looks better and sounds better! I’ll take the GT350.
@mustangsally366
@mustangsally366 4 года назад
Flyingaceful where will this two cars be in 20 years.....
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 4 года назад
@@mustangsally366 This Mustang is definitely gonna be a legend for years to come and go down as one of the best Mustangs in history. Since BMW's don't have any soul anymore, these new ones are definitely going to the scrapyard.
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 4 года назад
@@mustangsally366 I think the M2 won't be anything much and will be just another //M car that is affordable that any kid could buy it. The GT350 has all the options to make it a classic car. GT350 is currently holding its value better than the M2.
@mustangsally366
@mustangsally366 4 года назад
Ride Catch 50 years from where will these two cars be?
@rcsebastian2865
@rcsebastian2865 4 года назад
go get yourself some glasses son
@MNGLD-do2kc
@MNGLD-do2kc 2 года назад
I think I'd choose the M2 as well. It's just such a perfect little car. It's so well balanced, has just the right amount of power, and handles like a dream.
@robertstone9988
@robertstone9988 2 года назад
The mustang is kind of an unsophisticated Billy Ray Cyrus mobile. The BMW is class, pretentious sophistication and it's better than you. Now which stereotype do you want to be associated with? I would rather be the sharp dressed professional ass wipe in the BMW then the wife beater trailer park domestic beer drinking Def Leppard listening high School janitor. If I didn't care what people thought about me I'd buy the mustang. There's nothing wrong with either one they just both come with a s***** stereotype. It could be worse you could be a big dumb meat head bro dude super Chad covered in ax body spray and tribal armband tattoos in a WRX.
@pgr3290
@pgr3290 Год назад
The M2 is a better car. Classier, better built, much nicer interior, more premium feeling product. The Mustang is the typical American big fat and ugly car not practical or worthwhile anywhere outside of North America. The M2 works everywhere.
@ravenwing199
@ravenwing199 Год назад
​@@pgr3290 The Mustang is about the same size. It's heavier but that's because it's properly built and won't spontaneously disassemble itself at year 11. The Mustang has maybe 5 cm in every direction on the M2.
@pgr3290
@pgr3290 Год назад
@@ravenwing199 "The Mustang has maybe 5 cm in every direction on the M2." The Mustang is 12 inches longer than an M2. An entire foot. That's 30 centimetres. In the 2021 JD Power reliability survey which looked at 3 year old models from 32 brands (The 2017-2018 model years tested here) BMW came 11th in the survey, above the industry average. Ford came 22nd, below the average. You're welcome for the fact checks.
@Eduaardojc
@Eduaardojc 8 месяцев назад
⁠@@ravenwing199 wild statement, ford is literally known to be unreliable and always comes lower in reliability than bmw🤣
@marcryan2843
@marcryan2843 4 года назад
Great video, appreciate the dual screen
@toobasaurus23
@toobasaurus23 4 года назад
Ive loved M cars for years so I'm biased. My brother in law has a mustang. Sent him this to debate later. Many thanks for making this video.
@mohammadal-abbasi7247
@mohammadal-abbasi7247 Год назад
Before James was born
@claviclenotch1876
@claviclenotch1876 6 лет назад
Love my 2017 M2. Sold my 2017 Mustang GT (manual) to get it. Good comparo, but the BMW road feel and turn in as well as the fit and finish put the M2 way ahead for me. That flat plane crank though makes up for all of the 5.0's mediocrity and can see why its a game changer for some. Nice job guys, keep up the good work.
@Justwanthavefun_100
@Justwanthavefun_100 5 лет назад
On Trackdays Lightweight always fun and fast with that big horsepower like that M2 is a big bonus
@peterbigblock
@peterbigblock 2 года назад
We had a GT350 as a shop car, and it was wonderful. The engine sounded awesome, the fit and finish was excellent, the handling was direct and precise, the transmission was terrific. The GT350 was hilarious fun on the track, fully capable of whatever you wanted to do. A little wobbly in sharp transitions (think COTA turns 4-10), but only a little. Fantastic, fantastic car. But I personally bought an M2, which is beyond fantastic. It’s perfect.
@rocketman9605
@rocketman9605 6 лет назад
Well done video and objectively narrated. I thought long and hard about a GT350 or M2 and decided on the Shelby. I am very happy--smile every time I rev and listen to that awesome FPC V8. It is a blast on the track too.
@mr.e5625
@mr.e5625 6 лет назад
I work on gt 350's and 350r's. Pretty fun cars if you know how to drive them. Harder to buy than a m2
@PlaneCDR
@PlaneCDR 2 года назад
Wow! That was excellent!
@chrislomax8667
@chrislomax8667 4 года назад
I own a 2016 GT350, and I have a built 2010 335i. The GT 350 is stock, except for a pair of oil separators. The BMW has full M suspension, running Michelin Pilot Sports, and the engine is pushing 480 HP, with full mods. The BMW is much easier to drive quickly in canyons, but the sound of the Mustang and the attention it gets is amazing. The cars are so different, yet in ways very similar.
@yudax5057
@yudax5057 6 лет назад
0:44 that fender gap😂
@ojdj13
@ojdj13 6 лет назад
M2 absolutely held its ground fairly well while having much less hp. The M4 is a different monster
@TurboVisBits
@TurboVisBits 3 года назад
except it isnt!
@Ps3xSNiPeR
@Ps3xSNiPeR 3 года назад
@@TurboVisBits the M2 competition is better I would imagine.
@clover8673
@clover8673 3 года назад
@@TurboVisBits 445hp on the base model and almost half a ton lighter than a the 350... Yeah, it is
@weasle2904
@weasle2904 2 года назад
I think it's a rather unfair comparison in a tight and anemic track such as this that favors a shorter wheelbase and has no bearing on most kinds of real tracks and also street performance. The GT350 has better lateral grip and if they were in a real open track it would've embarassed the M2 quite handily, and has all the time. You can look up track times on tons of famous tracks with the GT350 being several seconds faster
@Modmaann
@Modmaann Год назад
@@weasle2904 and this gt350 isn't even the r lol
@axo8932
@axo8932 6 лет назад
Great Review! I ended up going Ford and have not regretted it one bit!
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 4 года назад
I enjoy the new format with James and Thomas better but still a fun vid none the less.
@aramgaribyan6248
@aramgaribyan6248 6 лет назад
Why are people surprised that the track numbers are similar? it's a tiny little track with no long straights and a big mustang vs a small light coupe.
@covertpetersen2573
@covertpetersen2573 5 лет назад
No long straights? There are two massive straights.
@Lodoz
@Lodoz 5 лет назад
Massive straights that he never even hit fourth gear on.. not massive lol
@BlaRaRa33
@BlaRaRa33 6 лет назад
id argue the new mustangs are more sports car thn muscle cars :/ not that thats a bad thing, theyre fucking awesome
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 6 лет назад
+BlaRaRa33 actually it's technically a pony car. But saying that would raise more questions than answer them for people.
@mdkinzie
@mdkinzie 3 года назад
I just bought my 2020 GT350 and it took me years to finally get this car❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@somerandomassguyontheinter2869
i mean both are great, but if i had to pick between the two, the sound alone of the 350 makes the decision for me. plus a high revving, naturally aspirated V8 with a 6 speed? literally my dream car
@hondacar
@hondacar 6 лет назад
The track and drag strip times differences were very small between the two cars however as a daily driver,the M2 seems a better proposition .
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 6 лет назад
+BMWPower I agree. But being a guy that drives on the track a lot, I would have to really talk myself out of that gt350
@hondacar
@hondacar 6 лет назад
Yep,track work would make the Mustang the most likely choice............. until the M2 CSL version comes out,but that will be a comparison for another day. :)
@markgodfrey7056
@markgodfrey7056 6 лет назад
BMWPower oh yeah until shit starts to break down in that over priced euro shitbox.
@hondacar
@hondacar 5 лет назад
You cannot say so these days.The recent 2018 GT Mustang has had engine problems and the manual transmission has had trouble with its shift forks.Although I believe that the transmission problem has been solved
@crapcork
@crapcork 6 лет назад
Love your reviews. I have a M240i; pretty cool that I'd be that close (at least in a straight line) to the GT350 :)
@MrWackotaco
@MrWackotaco 5 лет назад
My V8 M3 revs to 8700. GT350 is very similar in a lot of ways. I have cutouts on my M and it sounds badass as well. I now either going to get the R or an Alfa 4c? Keeping M also. Love the cars.
@joshcostanza224
@joshcostanza224 5 лет назад
I had a fully loaded 2013 135i with m sports package and also a 2015 mustang gt (base model with crap plastic) and in the end I truly enjoyed my mustang better as well. I do have to say, the all around feel of daily driving in the 135i was way better though... but when it came to fun...
@cavscout62
@cavscout62 5 лет назад
Not a fan of V8’s? WTF? No wonder he couldn’t hustle it.
@guffinator70
@guffinator70 5 лет назад
Sounds like he has taken in too much soy
@ryanb8736
@ryanb8736 4 года назад
Gman best comment! Haha. These guys are BMW fans.
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 4 года назад
@@guffinator70 lmao, true
@paulvicks1336
@paulvicks1336 4 года назад
If you like to go around corners fast, then two less cylinders is ideal, as the results showed.
@Marco-fi6gv
@Marco-fi6gv 4 года назад
@@paulvicks1336 not really. Mustang was only .3 longer lap time and if they compared like cars they would have had a manual transmission in the BMW. The BMW also has more refined suspension/drivetrain/steering setup. That test didn't prove that 2 less cylinders are better for fast turns. Besides .3secs despite all that.
@CBR919RR1
@CBR919RR1 5 лет назад
*CTS-V vs. M2 & M3*. I heard short shifting. My Camaro SS revs high so I can tell the higher rev Mustang wasn't working very hard for that engine.
@mattwad9738
@mattwad9738 3 года назад
the M2 is similar to the M1. The M3 is the bigger brother.
@damienhowell3727
@damienhowell3727 5 лет назад
Awesome review
@MrBonderd
@MrBonderd 3 года назад
I own a GT350. You don’t even need to go fast in this car. Driving slow with the exhaust valve open and hearing it burble/ backfire is probably the best thing I have experienced driving since I was 16 😁
@AnthonySvt_
@AnthonySvt_ 6 лет назад
I’ll take my flat plain crank V8
@user-hr2xu1db8p
@user-hr2xu1db8p 6 лет назад
I'll take a flat plane crank instead :-P
@jrex3575
@jrex3575 6 лет назад
i’ll take a fat plain skank instead
@jack7849
@jack7849 5 лет назад
@realone5 real The M2 has a 405HP 3.0 Liter TwinPower turbo i6, is lighter, and has a limited slip dif. The GT350 has so much raw power, but you just can't top German engineering imo
@acjohn6995
@acjohn6995 5 лет назад
@Michael 02 American cars are just too big, too high, too heavy, can't handle as well as the smaller cars and handling is where the gains have been made over the last several years. The Ford is one of the best Mustangs in decades, but it's still not quite there.
@TheNuclearBolton
@TheNuclearBolton 5 лет назад
j rex you mean a flat plane crank boi
@carstuff4260
@carstuff4260 6 лет назад
The M2 will cost 3 times as much to repair for simple stuff.
@alland12345
@alland12345 6 лет назад
Car Club Auto costs just as much to fix a gt350 in anything
@dreeary9475
@dreeary9475 5 лет назад
bmw is just garbage car, any other german cars will do, except bmw, audi are amazing, mercedes benz a whole lot of features to be amazing, but Bmw, sorry to say, its for people doesnt know shit about cars, expecially m4. Ok, how about i say it in another way, people that buys M4 does not know shit about cars, they dont care anything else, all they cares is about the car, thats why they would buy it.
@dreeary9475
@dreeary9475 5 лет назад
i remember few years ago there is this m4 post on instagram saying that m4 has the best twin turbo engine or something(i forgot most of it), and everyone comment below with: 2JZ, if u dont know what it is search it up.
@andreashampp9183
@andreashampp9183 5 лет назад
@@dreeary9475 so tell me what's so bad about BMW if you know so much about German cars
@DeltaCressida
@DeltaCressida 5 лет назад
@@dreeary9475 we know shit about the 2JZ I think nearly everybody knows jackshit about it we are not dumbasses
@mustangman5402
@mustangman5402 4 года назад
That GT350 MUST BE EARLY PRODUCTION CAR. I have 2017 and feel soft to the touch. Also, this GT350 has a leather seat( not good for the track), probably got the convenience package. Recaro seat is the best suit for the track.
@f.mazz.459
@f.mazz.459 4 года назад
I have yet to hear a bad review of the GT350. My favorite Mustang of all time...I would even take it over the 2020 GT500. Good review thx!
@MrTL3wis
@MrTL3wis 4 года назад
Completely agree. Having said that, I saw a GT500 at a local racetrack running open track laps. Holy shit that thing can accelerate.
@80KG_Costco_Chicken
@80KG_Costco_Chicken 6 лет назад
I am not really surprised that M2 won the road course. Germans always underrate the horsepower. I won't surprised that M2 actually makes 360 horsepower at the wheel. And M2 has a DCT. GT350 is not the best performer mostly hurt by its weight. But man, GT350 is just way more exciting than the M2. Where can you find another V8 rev to 8000+ rpm now days? And it is almost an exotic in someway. Maybe that was why I bought one. You know why I don't care about the plastic interior? Cause when I put my foot down, all those shit go away.
@user-hr2xu1db8p
@user-hr2xu1db8p 6 лет назад
Isn't the Mustang less than 200 lbs heavier? The extra 140+ HP should have made up for the weight difference. (Mustang curb was 3655 if I recall, compared to BMW's 3500ish) I agree completely about the 8K rpm V8... and I own an M2 :-)
@80KG_Costco_Chicken
@80KG_Costco_Chicken 6 лет назад
Jason Jorgensen My GT350 with both track and tech pack weight just under 3800 lb.. They try to save weight but there are many chassis reenforcement and also wide body. 300 lb. is a lot weight lol.
@julesv133
@julesv133 6 лет назад
Jinge Liu we bought one to, I love the car
@CQBCARMINE44
@CQBCARMINE44 6 лет назад
They weight near the same.
@PesseJinkman
@PesseJinkman 5 лет назад
Actually they know how to make cars...they know that a sport car is not just a big engine with awful build quality actually
@computerhelpcc
@computerhelpcc 4 года назад
GT350 sound is simply amazing. Yes, you can overlook a cheaper interior IF the drive is engaging. When I acquired a 911 with the boring grey interior I thought it would bore me, but the drive is so engaging I hardly notice. My jag sedan drives boring but compensates with style and materials. Love that GT350 sound, probably could daily it, but IF you only had one I suspect M2 is hand down better. Generally NOT a fan of BMW since end of M3 V8 (e46 is STILL memorable, wow....)
@Jaylyons1
@Jaylyons1 4 года назад
I've driven both and can't make up my mind which one to get. Both are similarly priced on the second-hand market. Since it would be a daily, I thought I'd lean towards the BMW due to creature comforts, size, far better fuel economy, etc. But that sound and power from the GT350 are really making this a hard call.
@ardzye5374
@ardzye5374 Год назад
Did you make a decision? I ended up with a 135i since I wanted a more true to roots driving experience. And then I got my gt350r earlier this week. I couldn't be happier with the shelby. Nothing but smiles.
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 5 лет назад
I was laughing like crazy reading the comments on this video. Great video, I really liked it but the bias here for the Mustang/ Shelby is out of this world. THANKS!
@mcoeif
@mcoeif 4 года назад
It's a channel with a mostly American/Canadian audience so most of the commenters are from NA who will stan for their cars.
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