Ford Takes a "Power-SH*T"! (12 Focus DPS6 Transmission FAIL)

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Oh boy...
This 2012 Ford Focus didn't even make it to 100k miles, and is having MAJOR TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS with it's fancy "Dual Clutch Automatically Shifted Manual" DPS6 Transmission.
It BARELY made it to my shop under its own power!
Anyone surprised?
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@SouthMainAuto 10 месяцев назад

I'm just glad this involved two air hammers 😅

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

HAHA Eric has Big Nasty ever been used to open up a module? 🤣

@calholli 10 месяцев назад

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics .. My two favorite channels. I've learned so much from you guys in the past few years. In my spare time, I've actually gone back and watched nearly all of your back logged videos. It's taken me since around 2019.. but I've seen them all (almost). :) .. I feel like I've been through college at this point.

@andysmith2155 10 месяцев назад

Didn't SMA have one of those Dorman purge valves have a fitment problem where it connected to the intake manifold causing a come back?

@dans_Learning_Curve 10 месяцев назад

*"HEY, it's that guy!"* SMA is in the house!!

@mybigfartsreallystin 10 месяцев назад

SMA in da hooooooooouse...

@tiredoldmechanic1791 10 месяцев назад

The worst part is that Ford knew about the problems with those transmissions and just kept on selling them for years.

@robertbruneau112 10 месяцев назад

Just like GM knew about afm on the ls truck......

@harrylumsdon6773 10 месяцев назад

Sounds like Kia as well w metal shavings.

@ronaldwarren1267 10 месяцев назад

@@harrylumsdon6773only usa made engines

@dhaggy1980 10 месяцев назад

Yep, just like Nissan and their crap CVT.

@thirzapeevey2395 10 месяцев назад

Why would that surprise you? They kept making the 1.6 liter Escort for five years, even though they knew that the water pump would strip the timing belt and bend the valves, and the car would then run hot. They knew it had problems with splitting the thin cylinder walls. They started building that engine in '80 for the '81 Escort, I believe, and didn't upgrade it until '85 1/2. The 1.9 was only marginally better and still had major issues.

@dustcommander100 10 месяцев назад

Less modules + less problems. Truer words were never spoken!

@lookitsrain9552 10 месяцев назад

"Anyone surprised?" No, no one should be surprised, these transmissions single handedly ruined the focus/fiestas reputation here in the US.

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

there should be three pedals....

@Stoney3K 10 месяцев назад

In Europe they're pretty succesful because most of them are sold as manuals.

@mikemiller659 10 месяцев назад

Its a Real shame because the car is Great...

@JackS425 10 месяцев назад

Ford: *puts one of the worst transmissions ever conceived in its small car line up* Also Ford: "Why does no one want to buy our small cars in America? It must be because they want crossovers with no ground clearance!"

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

@@JackS425 as I said, there should be three pedals and minimal electronics in them again. plain basic transportation is what's needed again. want a video for the brats? get a throw away chinese player that hooks to the seat back or actually parent them? 🤣

@glenbenton4855 10 месяцев назад

The over complexity of modern day vehicles that a lot of these car companies dish out is a total disgrace

@MrLentiscais 10 месяцев назад

But they are designed to keep the home mechanic from doing repairs.

@MattExzy 10 месяцев назад

I never quite understood why these types of transmissions existed. I thought it was so they'd be simpler... but not even that apparently.

@ford1546 10 месяцев назад

@@MrLentiscaisHello. Yes, that is partly true. I am a man who has never worked in a car related shop or never good school to learn car. I now have my first ford Mondeo mk4 2012 2.0L 140hp POWER SH*T"! I slightly regret this purchase!. Ford has cut too many corners on the mondeo mk4 to save money! You notice this after owning the car for a while. I have Forscan diagnostic equipment and can do the same as workshops if I dare. The Mondeo mk4 is far from the worst car to repair or far from the worst car when it comes to parts prices. Power shift is not a good automatic gearbox! The internal large oil filter, which after several years clogs up, cannot be easily replaced. Things, particles can stick to solonoyder to create problems! Then the gearbox often goes into limited function mode. Then you have DPF. the diesel particle filter system on the diesel cars which always causes problems on diesel cars.

@pantherplatform 10 месяцев назад

They don't want anyone to be able to repair anything, not even a burned out light bulb because they don't use bulbs anymore. They use LEDs that cost thousands to replace and will render the vehicle inoperable if it's not replaced.

@volvo09 10 месяцев назад

@@MattExzyI believe it was an attempt at efficiency, convenience of an auto, efficiency of not having a torque converter and hydraulic pump.

@Estevius 10 месяцев назад

I bought a 2013 Focus S with the manual 5 speed and still love it. My wife then bought a 2013 SE with the PowerShift. It started having major issues at 60k. We dumped what was a great car otherwise just because of that transmission. The DPS6 has to be one of the worst transmissions ever!

@marossgnv 10 месяцев назад

Jatco CVT has entered the chat.

@andrewl9472 10 месяцев назад

Agreed. I have family members that have owned these and I test drove a manual once and they really are pretty good cards aside from the transmission.

@ddg2256 10 месяцев назад

@@marossgnv Hey, at least the Jatco units _sometimes_ last a long time.. The PowerShit is 100% guaranteed to have major issues.

@jesuscontreras6118 10 месяцев назад

ZF transmissions: hold my 🍺

@norcal715 10 месяцев назад

My Daughter had a 13 Focus. First, when it was running correctly it was a great car, very peppy and good MPG (32-36). Second, It did have several transmission issues and had to be reprogrammed several times for jerky shifts, stalling and not shifting at the correct points. The TCM did fail resulting in a "No Start" condition and had to be towed to the dealer. The dealer said they needed to install rubber shocks in the replacement unit and after almost a week the received the parts and it ran good for another few months. She traded that POS in a few months later and never looked back again. At 24:35 the second from the right right driver FETs is missing in your TCM, most likely blown off of the board by high current. Those are indeed 3 phase motors. Love your contend, keep them coming. Thank you Ivan! Oops, Just caught your "damaged by the air hammer" comment. My bad.

@timkaldahl 10 месяцев назад

There is a recall on that TCM, and the warranty had to be extended. Ford changed mine out and did the door lock at the same time. We are at 170k now. TCM was changed at 96k. Still has the judder, but its going strong for now.

@brianw8963 10 месяцев назад

I feel bad for people that get stuck with these things because they were a low price. But, research is at your fingertips on anything You purchase, especially when it’s a to good to pass up deal. Oh well, We all live and learn. Well, maybe not “all” but I won’t go there. Nice work Ivan. 👍👍🇺🇸

@cive666xx 10 месяцев назад

After you get the updated tcm, clutch, and seals this transmission becomes rock solid.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

I still wouldn't trust it 😜

@mph5896 10 месяцев назад

😂. Yeah like 6.0l fords are billet proof after you dump $15k into them😂 The focus was a cheap car. 2012 is 12 years old now. It’s end of life if it requires a major repair like a clutch unless somebody has resources to diy or a connection

@jimkillen1065 10 месяцев назад

@@mph5896 yea i never have one but powerstrokehelp Bill Hewitt i think can make a decent engine out of them. I stick with my 12 valve lol

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

they need to bring back more three pedal vehicles, either you learn to drive/are capable or walk/hitch rides? sad but true

@mph5896 10 месяцев назад

@@throttlebottle5906 we need more outhouses. No need to have a toilet in every house 😉

@Thepartguy 10 месяцев назад

We had one of these at the shop. The clutch was slipping. Put it on the lift while running and fluid was misting out of the starter hole. No drain on the bellhousing to let the fluid out if the front seal leaks. Drilled a hole in the bellhousing and drained almost 2 quarts out of the bellhousing. Topped the fluid off and told customer to drive it till it died.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

WOW that's a tight seal between the bellhousing and engine 😂

@williamwhite9767 10 месяцев назад

You are a brave man tackling a transmission problem in that car!!!!

@A2Wx8 10 месяцев назад

Eh, no worries about the Dorman part, that transmission will probably go out again long before it fails! I don't know if there's such a thing as legend-tier for awfulness but if there is that transmission is a sure contender.

@mph5896 10 месяцев назад

Well, at least you can get a TCM. They were 30,000 on back order last time I tried to buy one. I put a Dorman Purge solenoid on my sisters 2016 Escape. $50 vs $170. Ill do it again if it doesn't hold up😆

@Allan-es2hz 8 дней назад

By now most of the backorders went away due to the cars being scrapped.

@jessicav2031 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the teardown. Seeing inside the modules is the best part! The stacked boards design is cool, it reminds me of industrial control stuff.

@ThisIS_Insane 10 месяцев назад

Basically, it IS industrial control stuff. 🙂

@jessicav2031 10 месяцев назад

@@ThisIS_Insane Yeah, of course 😁

@simonjones7785 10 месяцев назад

John cardogan Ae in aus labeled it the power sh#t with all the failures they have had

@MrOverstuffedcow 10 месяцев назад

Another great video Ivan. I had a digital blower motor resistor go bad and fixed it with a 19 cent MOSFET instead of a dealer only $100 replacement.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

Nice!

@captain150 10 месяцев назад

Love this. I had my ECM blower motor go bad in my furnace. New motor+module was over $1000. The motor itself was still perfect. All that was wrong was one of the MOSFETS was bad, so the motor was only getting 2 of the 3 phases. I was willing to do the same and solder in a new few cent part, but they potted the board in black epoxy.

@Stoney3K 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if the fault in the defective TCM is also a bad MOSFET or a power capacitor, since it appears to be a fault on all actuators, so there's some reason they're not getting any power when commanded.

@MrOverstuffedcow 10 месяцев назад

@@Stoney3K That's a good point. Could be any number of things like a shorted capacitor. They make so many things as a destructive tear down for the end user that most people wouldn't look and customers wouldn't want to wait, unless they're cheap, like me.

@Stoney3K 10 месяцев назад

@@MrOverstuffedcowThat's because shop time for a technician to repair stuff is much more expensive than just throwing the defective module in the trash and buying a new one because they are cranked out by the thousands at the factory anyway.

@aleskyfinis1025 10 месяцев назад

I hope the customer is happy about this repair

@pantherplatform 10 месяцев назад

Ford transmissions I can count on are the 4R70, 4R100, and E40D which is very similar to the 4R100 and has the same pan and filter. The 4R100 in my 2002 F250 7.3 Powerstroke has 292,000 miles and can still pull my excavator no problem but that's only because I drain the fluid every oil change and change the filter annually and don't race it like a teenager...

@camneilsen8234 10 месяцев назад

I work with an ex Ford tech and he said it was a miniscule cost difference between the powershite and a true auto , penny pinching has cost the manufacturer millions and rightly so.

@topher8634 10 месяцев назад

I believe these were recalled. I'd have to check again to be sure. I remember alot of these cars weren't making it to 60K miles.

@aleskyfinis1025 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, those transmissions are shitty

@Usmanthemecano 10 месяцев назад

Yes if under 150k

@JMKady76 10 месяцев назад

There were two separate FSAs/Recalls, one for TCM failure and one for clutch shudder.

@paulgilliland2992 10 месяцев назад

FOMO behaving badly especially when they knew 6 months prior to release that the engineers couldn’t validate their testing data points on the Poweshift . Say what you will about lawyers in America but they have this concept know as discovery.

@andrewkissel3807 10 месяцев назад

There is an active recall for the TCM's on that vehicle that expires at the end of August'23. Transmission Control Module Ford Focus Recall Power train: Automatic transmission: Control module (tcm, pcm) Recall no. Ford Motor Company (Ford) is recalling certain model year 2012-2014 Focus Electric vehicles manufactured September 15, 2011, through August 23, 2013. I had my TCM replaced 2 years ago at the State College dealer free of charge. The TCM wouldn't auto learn and had a code (can't remember exact code) that indicated the non-volatile memory had failed. I didn't pay much money for my car, and only have 35K on it, and with 3 clutch replacements since I purchased it 5 or 6 years ago. For the 'typical' shudder issue that everyone seems to experience, I follow the procedure that FordTechMakuloco posted 8 years ago, and this works well!! I do it every time it acts up which is 2-3 times per year. Here is a link to that video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-msA0p87O2y4.html

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

wait THREE clutch replacements in 35k miles?!? That must be a record haha

@andrewkissel3807 10 месяцев назад

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics, Actually that was typical for those years. When I was talking to the tech at the dealership, they had one guy, full time, replacing clutches and rear main oil seals on these cars. The reason they kept changing clutches, from what they told me, is the manf. was changing the clutch material to solve the shudder problem. Essentially, the clutch material was to 'sticky'. The final clutch they put in, definitely slips a tad more than the original sets. I don't have the shudder problem any more, but the computer algorithm gets wonky after a couple of months of driving, so I have to perform the procedure laid out by FordTechMakuloco in the linked video... At least it was all covered under warranty... I still hear of some people getting the clutches and rear main seal being replaced free of charge, but only one in the past 2 years. This car is a love hate relationship. I hate the tranny, I love the gas mileage. Once you get on I-70 west, I get 40+ MPG... If I draft behind a semi, I can sustain 50 MPG.. Essentially, its my beater car now. :-/

@justjames8383 10 месяцев назад

Serious respect, it's this kind of crap that makes me love my 64 GTO tripower

@BoweryPenguin8 10 месяцев назад

The purge valve is also a recall if it hasn’t been done 18s32

@tonyshirley5674 10 месяцев назад

I bought a new 2012 focus se had it 6 years and put 125k on it, no issues. Sold it to son in law who put another 50 k, sold it to my Grandson who is currently driving everyday with over 200k. I loved it got 44mpg on interstate driving. I did get notifications for transmission that warranty was extended to 125k and so many years

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

200k on the original PowerShift transmission?? How?

@gtemnykh 10 месяцев назад

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnosticsall highway driving

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

@@gtemnykh guess that makes sense for a 2012 to have over 200k miles lol

@tonyshirley5674 10 месяцев назад

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Highway miles and I did proper maintenance, still being driven today original trans, maybe just lucky, I enjoy the videos, thanks!

@johnt.848 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the tear down. I've always been interested in the internal workings of components.

@_RiseAgainst 10 месяцев назад

My 2015 focus is running strong! It only has one clutch though. I would imagine the TCM stepper motors got a little weak. The problem with a DCT is everything has to synchronize perfectly for it to be smooth. Even lambo DCT can get jerky at low speeds.

@RicardoPCGamer 10 месяцев назад

The 1st gen Focus shared the same engine and manual transmission with the Mercury Mystique. 2.0L Zetec and MTX 75 5 speed. Such a reliable powertrain. The early Focus with the 4 speed auto the 4F27E. It wasn't bad tho. My 03 is an automatic, she shifts alright. Doesn't shift perfect, but still going strong at 140k miles. Yes i have serviced mine, fluid is clean. The old Focus automatics can last 200k or more. That's if they've been serviced regularly. But that's the problem, these cheap American cars. Not many people care about servicing them. They just drive it and maybe change the oil then throw it away when something breaks.

@1175ld 10 месяцев назад

My 2012 recently started acting up. (115000) miles. Check engine light cam on and began shifting in an erratic manner. Nursed it home and car would not go into reverse. Coincidentally, while I was contemplating what to do, a letter from Ford informed me that TCM’s in those cars would be replaced up June 2024 with 150000 miles or less. I took it to a Ford dealer and they said that there was a bulletin on reprogramming the TCM. Since that time the car has driven well. It probably shifts better than it ever did. The typical shudder that these transmissions have has gone away. Fingers crossed that it stays that way for sometime.

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

@@1175ld they likely just jacked the line pressure to the moon , to make them not have to replace whole transmissions under warranty. in which they'll work ok again for a while, then suddenly poof. but never you mind anyone whom see's through the bull-dropping smoke screens.

@jamesfawcett7001 10 месяцев назад

A wise person once said "Complexity is the enemy of reliability" Hey Ho. Thanks for the videos as always Ivan.

@JMKady76 10 месяцев назад

The transmission itself isn't usually the issue in the focus/fiesta, it's the POS TCM and clutch setup. Used to pay my mortgage almost exclusively replacing clutches in those when I worked at the dealer. We'd get clutches in by the pallet because the stop and go driving around here just cooks the clutch.

@Adam-bw4lw 10 месяцев назад

are thy sliping the cluches when crawing to mimic an auto trans 🙄🤔

@volvo09 10 месяцев назад

@@Adam-bw4lwyes, if you don't adapt your driving style and are one of those drivers that keeps inching up in traffic or at stop lights you are constantly slipping that clutch.

@benjamindoyle668 4 месяца назад

@@volvo09 I also heard about VW DSGs that when you're stopped at a light, if your foot isn't FIRM on the brake pedal, the car will be in 1st gear (like an automatic) and the clutch will eventually just burn up -- it will be constantly slipping, even at a stop, unless you push the brake hard enough for it to go into N. Kinda an idiotic design. I also believe there were some Hyundai DCTs with no creep function at all because of this. The more you know!

@NVRAMboi 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Ivan. More important than ever for people to know what they're buying before they buy.

@brianr9049 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Ivan - Looks like the TCM has two stepper motors that are 3 phase PWM. Cheers!

@monkeywentbananas 10 месяцев назад

Fortunately my daughter has a manual 6 speed in Her Focus! Still running strong after all these years!

@airratchetjockey7605 10 месяцев назад

I’m impressed that she got a module

@worldsails2000 10 месяцев назад

I really like seeing programming videos and what is involved.

@LesReeves 10 месяцев назад

All I can say is I feel sorry for that woman crappy F**KED OR RARELY DRIVEN that it didn't last until it was paid for.Your suggestion the get rid of it is the best solution however she may not be in a financial position to do so.Cheers mate doing what you can to assist see you in the next video.

@jameslastname9171 10 месяцев назад

There is a ground up in the top driver side of the engine bay (if I recall correctly) that, from factory, has paint under the screw head. This prevents proper ground to the TCM in many cases and the TCM fries again if not addressed!

@larrybe2900 10 месяцев назад

Ford Focus & Fiesta Multiple Transmission Problems One Easy Fix 718K views•9 years ago FordTechMakuloco

@Bruel111 10 месяцев назад

My 2012 focus TCM died at 45k miles. Nothing but issues with it until that point. Dealer I bought it from was no help and the manager all but threw me out of the shop when I told him I wanted a real mechanic to drive the car and feel the transmission shifts because he kept saying they reprogrammed the module and there were no error codes so no issues. Then I had a no crank no start. No comm with the TCM. Had it towed to a different dealer. Told them my symptoms, no comm, and my troubleshooting. They said, no problem, we'll warranty a new TCM and then asked if I was having shifting issues. The said they'd warranty a new clutch pack as well, transmission is an issue and they want to hold Ford accountable to their word. Since that repair, I'm over 100k miles issue free, drives great, averaging 34 mpg. Big kudos to the dealers that still work to take care of the customer, even if you didn't buy the car from their lot.

@ibrahimwaheed987 10 месяцев назад

As always great fix.Having same kind of issues with Renault Clio TCM

@williamcarson423 10 месяцев назад

I remember from the dealer days these things had major seal issues on the input shaft causing it to shudder the clutch so hard it would chatter your terth

@robertaccorsini4663 10 месяцев назад

Simple, reliable and fun. Perfect description of a manual transmission.

@t5ruxlee210 10 месяцев назад

"Customers Who Only Buy New, Disposable, Cheaply Made, Small Cars". Perfect description of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

@ronaldderooij1774 10 месяцев назад

Simple, yes, reliable, yes, fun, no. I drove manual cars for decades and I did not see the fun of manual shifting. Now I have the dreaded Jatco CVT (which by the way only break on Nissans, not on Mitsubishis) and so far, I had zero defects after 8 years with the whole car. Fingers crossed.

@ronaldderooij1774 10 месяцев назад

@@t5ruxlee210 I have a tiny car. I am sure it is disposable. But it does what it has to do extremely reliably. And now for 8 years it had zero defects. So I see value in that.

@petrnemecek4379 10 месяцев назад

@@ronaldderooij1774 Fun depends on where you drive, not fun in cities and in heavy traffic, but winding roads through hills oh yeah.

@ronaldderooij1774 10 месяцев назад

@@petrnemecek4379 True, but that happens to me once a year. Not worth it.

@thomaspapa3831 10 месяцев назад

As a diy mechanic for over 50 yrs I try to stay on top of the new technology So I can stay clear with problem vehicles. Unfortunately new technology comes with new problems. Keep up the good work ! Tom from effort pa.

@bigcrowfly 10 месяцев назад

The owner does not need a mechanic, she needs a financial advisor. Still making payments on a 11yo 90k+ mile car that even in good condition won't bring more than scrap value if traded? And just spent $350 on a part and will be spending 3-4x that on labor.

@gtemnykh 10 месяцев назад

My thought exactly.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

It is turning into a predictable money pit 😂

@mikechiodetti4482 10 месяцев назад

Ford like GM, "PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE! " The city fleet I worked in had Fords from 1997 to about 2005, then again in 2011, so we went through WDS to IDS. When you got to the $50.00, I said, "Welcome to IDS!" IDS is a great tool if all you have are Fords. With modules, we started out with "As Built" Data programming, then added the latest and greatest programming. 2008 F550's were fun with the LARGE keys and they held two programs. One was PCM, (eng) the other was BCM (power door locks). To quote Lucky Costa "Good Times." Good one Ivan!

@GarnConstructionInc 10 месяцев назад

Autopsy footage!! Thanks Ivan its always fun to see what gave up but no smoking gun this time.

@roxanneabbott8424 10 месяцев назад

This poor girl, I'm so happy she has you!!!

@quicktastic 10 месяцев назад

TBH that module looked very robust, although complex. Of course, you know what they say about a chain being a strong as the weakest link. There are a whole lot of links in that chain. Lots to go wrong.

@robertmoura7546 10 месяцев назад

Ivan, here in Brazil, Fix it Or Repair Daily and worldwide shot it self in the head by putting this stupid powershift trans on EcoSport, Focus and Fiesta I think 🙄, to do a clutch service costs roughly $2000.00 US which is way too much , most clients when they figure out how deep into the pockets they have to go they cry. This goes also for GM with easytronics, VW with imotion, and Fiat with automation. GOOD THING you told your client to get rid of it ASAP! Excellent video for your viewers to see and avoid these Trans.

@stevelang3171 10 месяцев назад

way cool Ivan. Thanks!

@nct9466 10 месяцев назад

I got one apart! I’ll watch this video tonight!

@isalmankhan1 10 месяцев назад

Great work BRO😍

@thetinpin 10 месяцев назад

A friend of mine told me last week that her daughter bought a 2012 Focus and I did the biggest facepalm! "Automatic?" "Yes" "Sell it TOMORROW!" "Oh uh oh um I was going to ask you about some weird shifting its doing..." "Fuck. Take it to a reputable shop and fix it then IMMEDIATELY sell it." She's outside the warranty extension too. 🤦🤦

@ericwalpole4601 10 месяцев назад

Great video. I agree with every opinion you said, I've worked on a lot of those and they are all junk.

@stevenlatham4397 10 месяцев назад

Ford has definitely went down hill. We’ve had a couple 1st gen Focus’s and Fusions that were fantastic, in fact my 2008 Fusion has 313k miles and runs and drives great still. Sadly, the front strut towers are about to rust through. Rust will be the death and not mechanical failure 😭

@petrnemecek4379 10 месяцев назад

My 1st gen Focus has 322k km, manual transmision shifts like new and it still has the original factory clutch. Hard to find new car like that.

@eightycutty 8 месяцев назад

Before Ford started calling for these back we tore them open for the motor magnets. They are super strong for the size plus the windings make for great Arc Reactor displays

@andysmith2155 10 месяцев назад

I believe Eric O had a fitment problem with one of those Dorman purge valves on a Ford where it hooks to the intake vacuum. It came off causing a come back.

@robertl2227 5 месяцев назад

That was a lot of extra complexity in that TCM. Much thanks to you for bringing this to your viewer's attention. Its too bad that manual trans are almost dead in America. Whereas in the rest of the world they are still installed in the large majority of cars...so ive heard.

@baxrok2. 10 месяцев назад

Less modules! Thanks Ivan.

@williegillie5712 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I’ve heard those solenoids/actuators are junk. Thankfully when I bought a 2017 focus it had a manual transmission a five speed. Must have been one of the earlier ones they put in mine or they changed the design by 2017. Haven’t had a lick of trouble with the transmission. But other issues plague it. On your advice I picked up an mk 808ts Autel scanner. It’s a slick little scanner. Scans all the modules and shows Ed all the codes. Went to all data and paid for a years subscription. I found a ground missing for my wipers(dredded little critters chewd on a few of the wires. I’m glad I picked it up. Thanks for the tip Ivan. Good luck with that focus.

@scientist100 10 месяцев назад

The boards don't come apart from what I saw; they are connected with press on design; there are people that rebuild them but from what I experienced, they are hard to separate, I only fixed the solder joints that I could see but the rest live in between both boards that I could not separate. These modules have been on backorder for years now and the only viable option is to send it out for repair, a lot of eBayers that offer the service.

@zzoinks 10 месяцев назад

I bet the engineers who were (I'm assuming) too lazy or management that was too cheap to make a repairable design didn't wager on a global pandemic and supply chain shortage. So they've screwed the customer service reps, who are the ones to break the bad news of the supply shortage, and the owner by making a hard to repair design. Now I'm curious if John Deere who tried to disable tractors when owners diy fixed them would ever anticipate some Internet connectivity problem or attack that would brick all their locked down farm equipment that's needed to give people food. John Deere ended up being forced by regulation to stop their anti-repair practices.

@telx2010 10 месяцев назад

@@zzoinksYou misspelled plandemic!

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

planned obsolescence, warranty is 100K or X years, whichever comes first@@zzoinks scrap it and buy a new one, yep, that's what implementing eurotrash and advanced design chvok full of auto-magical and electronics has done for US all. sorry to be so harsh, but I'd rather have to stop and file points and wrap cellophane on plug wires to escape an hurricane. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@seagullsbtn 10 месяцев назад

You're right about those transmissions. My local shop has replaced plenty of them. its why my kids didn't get a Ford to drive to College.

@arcadeuk 10 месяцев назад

If you look at how the 2 boards connect inside the TCM, they are just push-fit onto the pins, not soldered. This is a common failure point, so if nothing else is faulty, they can sometimes be fixed by soldering all the pins. I get this exact same failure on some Sega arcade boards

@lvsqcsl 10 месяцев назад

Seems like those transmissions were notorious for failure and you did correctly recommend your customer get rid of that car. I almost knew you were "not changing the transmission," Ivan. I am glad it worked out. Ya know, that being said, you had issues with your wife's Nissan Rogue. I would say it is time for a Grand Highlander. I have said it before and I will say it again, looks like the 'ol Marquis is going to need to run a few more years. Great video!

@TheProtagonist_777 10 месяцев назад

Northridge Fix! I was just thinking that he could fix it.

@abautoworks4674 10 месяцев назад

Those TCM's were under extended warranty from Ford. Being a 2012 she's one year too late as it was 10yr/150k miles. A friend of mine with a 2014 focus had his done for free at the dealer last year, but they had the car for about 8 month waiting for a new module lol.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

Wow 8 months with no car and no loaner really sucks!

@berkleyman1 10 месяцев назад

new and improved. That way Ford can stay in the lead for recalls. The best thing car makers have engineered is a quick way to drain of your bank account.

@BABA-ws5eo 10 месяцев назад

I always learn from watching your videos. I wish you would have spent a few minutes on how you diagnosed that module. thanks!!!

@hugh007 10 месяцев назад

Just a guess, but if it's an automatic Focus - it's the module. I had 2 of hem.

@tracydiller9378 10 месяцев назад

Great video Ivan as always. I don't think it matters what aftermarket or some OE parts you put on now days there pretty much all junk. As far as the Focus transmission goes time will only tell.

@Mike-en4ld 10 месяцев назад

Love your videos, thanks. The trans died 3 times on my wife's '13 Focus. Last time it was at the dealer so long waiting for a TCM that it came back with a family of mice inside. It's unfortunate because the rest of the car is pretty reliable and it's nice to drive. I would feel bad selling this POS to someone, so we're just trying to get the most out of it until the trans goes again and we have to buy an overpriced, overcomplicated newer car.

@cameronscarreviews6387 10 месяцев назад

My Aunt has a 2012 Ford Focus, had the transmission fixed after she got it. Runs on original engine and transmission at 210k miles going strong still no issues at all.

@65scottiedog 10 месяцев назад

Less modules less problems less ivan😢😢😢😱☹️ Thank you it's the same in uk ford found on rubbish dump Ford fixed or repair daily. Have a great day

@gsudarshan7251 10 месяцев назад

In India, we had issues by the boatloads of DSG(DQ200), DCT dry clutch transmissions cooking up with weird mechatronics failures. Only solution proposed by the independents was to shift the transmission to N in case the vehicle stops for more than 5 seconds and changing the DSG fluids more frequently. That reduced the failures but we did keep a piggy bank labeled DQ200 fund for such a contingency as it cost 20 percent of the car value to replace it. Oddly, the DQ250 which was a wet clutch DSG, did not suffer from such issues.

@papapetad 10 месяцев назад

The dq200 is mk5 golf era 1st gen dsg, right? I saw a ton of mk 5's for sale in Europe with f'd dsg's. Really wanted a mk5 but seeing all those dead cars for sale kept me away and I went mk6 instead despite preferring the mk5 shape. This has a 7-speed dsg. It still makes me uncomfortable, especially with having an extra gear I don't see a need for. I'd prefer 6 beefy gearsets with less parts but seems this trans is much more reliable overall. Is this the dq250?

@gsudarshan7251 10 месяцев назад

@@papapetad we never had the golfs in India. We had the polo, Octavia 1.8 and the superb petrol 1.8 with this dq200 transmission as option. All these tanked in value the moment the warranty period got over.

@aleskyfinis1025 10 месяцев назад

Happy customer coming your way😊

@MrBillrookard 8 месяцев назад

I have a 2016 Focus, fortunately it's the ST with the MT6. Surprise surprise, zero trans issues and 180k miles on the car and it still runs great. The engine and chassis for the Focus is great and pretty fun and competent, too bad they sacrificed reliability across that entire generation for that extra 2 mpg

@cjhs77338 10 месяцев назад

There are 2 big issues with the DPS6 transmission. 1. It is a dry clutch. Ford was told that it needed to be a wet clutch but went dry to save money. 2. The TCM remembers the bad driving habits of the driver. If the driver is light on the gas pedal it will cause stuttering later on. If you drive the car like it is a manual it does not have as many TCM issues.

@vg3430 10 месяцев назад

How do you “drive it like a manual” when there are only two pedals?

@hugh007 10 месяцев назад

That's what the Ford excuse was when they first came out - it learned driving habits. But what if there are 2 or 3 drivers? I asked the 'service 'manager and he didn't have an answer.

@Parknest 10 месяцев назад

Ivan, this must be one of the very rare ocassions when even a Dorman part is better than OE. I only know of Dorman's reputation becuase of Eric O. and I'm in the UK. Module repair services are the way forward as a cost effective repair and for when new ones become unobtanium. I'm lucky that there is such a service for my 2003 Volvo XC90 (I've had to call on their services twice already).

@simonparkinson1053 10 месяцев назад

Your video title sounds like Aussie auto expert John Cadogan describing DPS6

@Cfchild1 10 месяцев назад

I'm surprised this wasn't covered under Ford's extended warranty for replacement of the this TCM component. I also own a '12 Focus (second owner) and just had my replaced under warranty at a local Ford Dealer. In late June '23 I received a letter from with my vehicle VIN that said my car was eligible for a one time warranty replacement of the TCM. Not three days later and out of the blue, the TCM failed. At first the dealership said they were going to charge me a $200 diagnostic fee, but I resisted, and they ended up replacing the TCM under warranty and at no cost to me. It may be that because the original owner took the car back to the dealership for all of the previous recall notices, the car was on Ford's radar for this warranty repair.

@robmedinatransmissiondiagn2286 10 месяцев назад

I have a 2012 with just over 106,000 miles and have had no issues with the transmission. It’s working flawlessly still, I’m hoping Ford will honor the warranty like I’ve heard they have.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

Knock on wood ;)

@codyarizona4925 10 месяцев назад

I personally own a 2014 focus as my work horse. I drive it 100 miles a day 5-6 days a week. Besides the transmission issues the cars are tanks. DPS6 are probably the easiest of any transmission on the market to repair/replace.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

Do the doors fly open on their own and does the plastic gas tank collapse from stuck purge valve? Otherwise not a bad car haha

@codyarizona4925 10 месяцев назад

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics haha yeah ill admit every focus I've worked on 2012 -2017, no matter how low of miles, has had that leaking purge valve.

@timrandolph115 6 месяцев назад

I guess I must have gotten the only good one. My 2015 Focus SE has 196342. Miles and has never had a problem with anything. Has only had routine maintenance , tires brakes, spark plugs and battery. I bought it new and took it to the dealer for all my oil changes. It’s been a great car still gets 40 mpg on the highway.

@bombardier3qtrlbpsi 10 месяцев назад

Love to comment title of video....But family channel . Great job as always 👍

@pendulum2001 10 месяцев назад

Here’s a thought in Australia we would’ve burnt the car by now😂

@cd9225 10 месяцев назад

I had my fair share on a Fiesta DPS6. It good when it works but when it doesn't....oh my god.

@randalcalvert270 10 месяцев назад

Totes agree! About 3 days a week when my car is happy it shifts better and sportier than any car I've driven. The other 2 days a week even w/o shudder it's surging and shifting sloppy, feeling like it's in the wrong gear, and feels extremely sluggish.

@Loudlevin 10 месяцев назад

Whoever signed off on this transmission deserves to suffer, may they end up living in a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere. Same for all dealership employees that where complicit.

@ronfrance4041 10 месяцев назад

When I met my wife 10 years ago she had one of these. Nonstop issues, I convinced her to get rid of it thank goodness

@marknaravas318 10 месяцев назад

I was one of the techs that had to deal with this shitbox. God I hate them. When I quit I had 35 tcms on backorder

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 10 месяцев назад

@@marknaravas318 what a shit show lol... Glad you got out!

@snoops606 10 месяцев назад

That's why I worry about going after my Topdon going forward on things so I don't mess up the whole car

@richardschmidt6619 10 месяцев назад

I have a 2015 Ford Focus, yes that transmission is a POS! We do have over 100K on it, but it has been in the dealer a couple of times to get reprogrammed. There is a recall on it for a buy back, because they really can't get the programming for it to handle all kinds of driving and shifting conditions. So much for artificial intelligence.

@CROFTY71 10 месяцев назад

hey Ivan I enjoy your tear Downs of modules and stuff like that. I understand you just want to know what makes it tick.

@genebruce6321 10 месяцев назад

I'm a retired electrical engineer and I cannot fathom as to why the electronics in that thing need be so complex.

@throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад

that just summed up all vehicles of today. too many bells, whistles and hand holding devices. as much I like slip-o-matics(especially days my knee and back is killing me), three pedals and crude electrical devices worked well.

@braaapattack2937 10 месяцев назад

Guy at work just was looking for a new work beater car, and asked me what I thought about a car he found… it was a 13 focus with the auto. I told him to run for the hills!!! Ended up buying a camry instead

@raymondreiff8170 10 месяцев назад

Like someone else said down below lots of Great advice, If you're buying a used Vehicle make sure to research the Year of Vehicle you're looking at because you just may buy someone else's headaches if you Don't, And No I really don't CARE who builds it, Research the year model and brand, Why? Make sure you can or want to deal with Problems others are having with said Vehicle, Knowledge is power only if applied, Many Car brands have Forum's online where people are logging their complaints, You would be surprised by what people complain about 😀.

@davidraezer5937 10 месяцев назад

You may think the power shift is the worst Ford but I think the 1.0 Ecoboost with its wet belt oil pump drive and cylinder head sealing issues takes honor. And I wouldn’t worry when the TCM becomes the unavailable. Forman will have a solution for that 🤪

@RJTC 10 месяцев назад

The motors look to be Brushless DC, which are more powerful that steppers and can run at higher revs when needed; I believe you will find that there are magnets on the ends of the motor shafts, and the two 20 pin ICs near the centre line of the PCB are centred exactly behind them? If so, they will be magnetic angle transducers that allow the motor position and rotation to be tracked & the data is also used for "commutation" control of the three phase motor winding.

@edjeep 10 месяцев назад

worked on a bunch of those focus with those trans in the car rental industy, those foucs' were a bunch of junks...so much recalls, etc, on the transmission

@OlegGTR35 10 месяцев назад

Manual transmission for the win!

@MrTigelmo 7 месяцев назад

loved my ‘14 focus hatch miss it. if i felt any kind of bucking from trans. i took it out and did a stop to 65 with throttle mostly alo the way down and that scrubbed the disc’s. had to do this maybe once a year.

@richb419 10 месяцев назад

Hi Ivan I'm surprised that you didn't first try to reprogram the trans module, can't now it's in pieces.

@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 10 месяцев назад

Overcomplicated and overexpensive solution! Seems to be running great but, for how long? I completely agree with you: less modules = less problems. Interesting teardown of the TCM - really not made to be repaired. BTW, those two motors are BLDC (Brushless DC), that run on 3-phase low voltage, just like the ones in quadcopters, only much more powerful.

@jimkillen1065 10 месяцев назад

Power shift i like in equipment. Not interested in a car or pickup .. Thanks for the videoes ....My dad told me there are times when your better to just replace the equipment and get something else .. This includes cars . When my automatic transmission gave up i installed a manual..