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Former Conservatives vs Former Liberals | Middle Ground 

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00:31 My former political views were cult-like
07:17 I think Trump will win the next election
12:28 Democrats are more compassionate thank Republicans
19:21 Changing sides was traumatic
25:50 The dual party system hurts America
31:41 I am still aligned with certain policies from my former political beliefs

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Комментарии : 9 тыс.   
@jubilee
@jubilee 7 месяцев назад
Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/more-on-patreon "Religion played a part in changing my beliefs."
@Triple_Alliance
@Triple_Alliance 7 месяцев назад
No
@JWick-tm6eh
@JWick-tm6eh 7 месяцев назад
here's a topic , those who think the 2020 elections was legitimate and those who sincerely questing the results for a variety of reasons. I would actually go on the show since not only have I been working on VA elections and the various complications that we have discovered with lack of legislative transparency in the way we vote in VA. I've done extremely extensive research on this subject these last 3 years.
@tobiaslawrence8928
@tobiaslawrence8928 7 месяцев назад
Women who are pro-sex work vs women who are anti-sex work
@user-wm1zg1dh8f
@user-wm1zg1dh8f 7 месяцев назад
Yeah ngl lost respect for Jubilee when I found out they are putting content behind a paywall. How tacky.
@Jamyakoryn
@Jamyakoryn 7 месяцев назад
@@user-wm1zg1dh8f really tacky 🤦🏽‍♀️
@jessw02
@jessw02 7 месяцев назад
I just know this wasn't emily's first time saying 'well my pronouns are now pretty princess'
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed 7 месяцев назад
Only Yasmin from bratz is called pretty princess. Sorry Emily
@BriannaDeveyra
@BriannaDeveyra 7 месяцев назад
She literally used pronouns in that sentence 😭 “my” is a possessive pronoun
@haleighsandoval
@haleighsandoval 7 месяцев назад
@@chateaulobbyshe’s did
@alecklecky
@alecklecky 7 месяцев назад
She aint wrong though. She did 'serve' as @chateaulobby puts it.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 7 месяцев назад
@@alecklecky Love how conservatives only have one joke
@yumbunny2566
@yumbunny2566 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think Emily was a former liberal, she just _realised_ she wasn’t liberal.
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 6 месяцев назад
Ooh, kind of like me!
@paarthurnax8519
@paarthurnax8519 6 месяцев назад
How you met liberals these days? They're insane.
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 6 месяцев назад
Well she did say she was a former-emo kid and she def has that early 2000's emo internet kid vibe
@m00nm1lk
@m00nm1lk 6 месяцев назад
@@Chelsea123Chiii kinda get the feeling her definition of her being emo was just wearing eyeliner and black hoodies (which is in fact not emo)
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 6 месяцев назад
@@m00nm1lk Nah she's def the raWR OmG
@jaylamarie7442
@jaylamarie7442 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think Emily’s friends cut her off just because she’s conservative 😬
@coco-kl3xr
@coco-kl3xr 4 месяца назад
they cut her off couse she is annoying
@petereames3041
@petereames3041 4 месяца назад
I like her.
@jaylamarie7442
@jaylamarie7442 4 месяца назад
@@petereames3041 well ur a nobody on the internet of course u do
@krisssantos23
@krisssantos23 4 месяца назад
​@@petereames3041I do too.
@chelsmaria
@chelsmaria 4 месяца назад
I find her both annoying and valid. Overall, her positive qualities outweigh the negative for me. Biggest factor being that she is brutally honest. I appreciate honesty in people, even if they're annoying or dense at times.
@maggieeastburn
@maggieeastburn 6 месяцев назад
emily going from 'I've never cut off a person because of their political beliefs' to saying she knows to 'stay away' when someone has their pronouns in their bio is genuinely laughable
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 5 месяцев назад
I get what you're saying but those aren't contradictory. To cut someone off, you'd have to had a relationship with them. Staying away from someone online doesn't require cutting them off coz you've probably not even talked to them.
@maggieeastburn
@maggieeastburn 5 месяцев назад
principle is the same- aversion based on political belief@@pythondrink
@beeache
@beeache 5 месяцев назад
​@maggieeastburn Not really though. She was saying that if someone she already knew for a long time decided to put pronouns in their bio, she would stop talking to them, even though she doesn't agree.
@slightlyaboveaverage2235
@slightlyaboveaverage2235 4 месяца назад
​@maggieeastburn having to tell people your pronouns when their opposite agreed upon usage isn't a political view.
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 4 месяца назад
@@slightlyaboveaverage2235 yes, speech isn't a political view. However, the underlying view in the speech can be political. And "political" is a pretty meaningless word so literally any view out there is a political view once the government gets involved.
@andredelano2423
@andredelano2423 7 месяцев назад
It felt like Emily was auditioning for a conservative talk show.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 7 месяцев назад
Female Dave Rubin
@Battlefield1918
@Battlefield1918 7 месяцев назад
She's not conservative.
@Paradox-lj3td
@Paradox-lj3td 7 месяцев назад
REAL
@stamourbeaulieu
@stamourbeaulieu 7 месяцев назад
We know she worship Pearl
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 6 месяцев назад
...Well, she'd be certainly great at the job.
@jamesgekas9904
@jamesgekas9904 7 месяцев назад
There is no way Emily was a former liberal
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 7 месяцев назад
How
@daintydalmatian
@daintydalmatian 7 месяцев назад
She’s not even conservative
@tomisakin
@tomisakin 7 месяцев назад
Not a chance.
@deantephillips2689
@deantephillips2689 7 месяцев назад
100% sure shes just there to be liked by whoever will listen to her lol
@TransWomenAreMen
@TransWomenAreMen 7 месяцев назад
No, she's obviously a current liberal.
@isabella4793
@isabella4793 7 месяцев назад
Emily is the definition of louder, not smarter
@Big617E
@Big617E 2 месяца назад
What did she say that was wrong or crazy Cause I had to have missed it ???
@dianeyoung8130
@dianeyoung8130 2 месяца назад
@@Big617E i mean there was a whole section where she outed herself as someone who doesn't know basic grammar.
@Najmille
@Najmille 2 месяца назад
It’s hypocritical to act like pronouns don’t mean a specific thing in that context
@ki57852
@ki57852 2 месяца назад
@@dianeyoung8130but that was ONE thing out of the entire discussion… other than that what was she so wrong about?
@grenademaster8981
@grenademaster8981 Месяц назад
It makes sense that she used to be liberal...that's basically their whole platform. Louder, not smarter.
@kim-jong-un8096
@kim-jong-un8096 7 месяцев назад
javen sounds like he doesn’t even believe what he’s saying 😭
@MK-wx5vu
@MK-wx5vu Месяц назад
He sounds like he's been heavily brainwashed lol
@Darth_Tuna
@Darth_Tuna 29 дней назад
Disagree
@drankinmycup69
@drankinmycup69 14 дней назад
@@MK-wx5vuexactly, How can he just go against his own family members who are trans? it doesn’t make sense.
@boostinky
@boostinky 7 месяцев назад
I don’t really believe Emily was ever “liberal” like she claims. She equates being a former liberal to “i literally used to be an emo kid”.
@pesikimoana3270
@pesikimoana3270 7 месяцев назад
no fr💀💀
@beauxdejour808
@beauxdejour808 7 месяцев назад
No, she equated being an emo kid to being more emotional and empathetic & caring about other peoples emotions, which relates more to the left’s values.
@mayapapayuh
@mayapapayuh 7 месяцев назад
She didnt equate being emo to being liberal. She equated emo and empathetic
@viperlux
@viperlux 7 месяцев назад
Well, that's what a majority of "liberals" sound like these days. Emotional queer cry babies. Normal liberals don't even stand up to those freaks that scream bigotry every 5 seconds just to have a conservation so yeah, the perception is very strong.
@ronron9353
@ronron9353 7 месяцев назад
She’s correct! When emo kid grow up to be emo adult they become conservative incels. 😂
@soulvaldez1999
@soulvaldez1999 7 месяцев назад
The way Blake kept bursting out laughing at Emily was sending me. He could not take her serious lmfao
@EM-rm2xh
@EM-rm2xh 7 месяцев назад
He was struggling to not call her a clown (like she deserved).
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 6 месяцев назад
How is she at all a clown, ​@@EM-rm2xh?
@losergoddess6277
@losergoddess6277 6 месяцев назад
Probably thinking in his head ain't no way she's real. She's here for a check. Because that's exactly what I keep thinking.
@saramysko1022
@saramysko1022 6 месяцев назад
@@losergoddess6277 cheque “”””
@mm5xo
@mm5xo 6 месяцев назад
she has to be a troll
@K.pendragon
@K.pendragon 7 месяцев назад
Not fooling anyone by cutting Hunter out so much. We know he wouldn’t just sit there quietly the entire second half 😅
@Madison-ew3el
@Madison-ew3el 11 дней назад
Thank you! t kinda feels unfair that there showing these (important) conversations claiming to be neutral whilst cutting things out to make the two sides seem ‘balanced’
@inesgassetpeinado
@inesgassetpeinado 6 дней назад
@@Madison-ew3elthey did the same with Blaire white
@pandaworld8166
@pandaworld8166 3 дня назад
@@inesgassetpeinado this is money making for them, depending on who they've brought they'll lean the video to appeal lmao
@pinkymzimela5481
@pinkymzimela5481 7 месяцев назад
This debate was more peaceful than I expected 😂 wow maybe the empathy of having been on the other side makes the difference
@GenerationNextNextNext
@GenerationNextNextNext 5 месяцев назад
Empathy makes a world of a difference. In fact, not enough people have it.
@austinquick6285
@austinquick6285 Месяц назад
It’s because you have a room full of people who are comfortable with challenging their own beliefs. These are the friend groups you should surround yourself with if you want to grow.
@anamartinez4002
@anamartinez4002 Месяц назад
My exact thoughts
@chillguy2758
@chillguy2758 20 дней назад
Political differences aren’t so bad when you consider there’s literally a 100 year war going on in the Middle East
@stayfuckingpathetic
@stayfuckingpathetic 11 дней назад
That's cause they cut out half the footage to make it look as neutral as possible
@princessd3966
@princessd3966 7 месяцев назад
People being very personally invested in presidents is weird. It's delusional and cult like.
@JesussyTwerkin
@JesussyTwerkin 7 месяцев назад
Yep worshiping false idols
@deadman4222
@deadman4222 7 месяцев назад
the president is just the newest celebrity
@tiggzr9744
@tiggzr9744 7 месяцев назад
Tbh it's not like that at all its only because who the president is affects the our daily lives.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 7 месяцев назад
Yep it also seems to be an American thing most foreigners don’t attach themselves to politicians
@dr1flush
@dr1flush 7 месяцев назад
Most of these people are on their way to fascist ideology
@avamin0s
@avamin0s 7 месяцев назад
Saying you love a politician is WILD
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 7 месяцев назад
depends.. 99.9999% of them yes.. but the likes of vivek ramaswamy is different. Outsiders that come in that aren't supported by the system and are actively shut down by the system should be propped up by the american people.
@chrisr393
@chrisr393 7 месяцев назад
@@sonnecarver Why should they be propped up? Vivek openly supports Russia and believes that Ukraine should bend to Russia's demands. Not to mention, he's a multimillionaire, so I wouldn't consider him an "outsider" in the Republican party
@pigmasters3263
@pigmasters3263 7 месяцев назад
@@sonnecarverRamaswamy is one of the worst of the Republican bunch lmao
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 7 месяцев назад
@@pigmasters3263 how, legit tell me how
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 7 месяцев назад
@@chrisr393 he doesn’t support Russia, he supports America. Wtf is wrong with you?
@elenaurbina227
@elenaurbina227 12 дней назад
10:53 “he’s not gonna end up in jail” bro is eating those words now😭😭😭🫵🏽
@sshrekster
@sshrekster 7 месяцев назад
As someone who grew up in saudi arabia - hearing someone saying there’s no crime is crazy 😭😭
@egwene7793
@egwene7793 Месяц назад
As a fellow person from the Middle East, I'm starting to think Americans know very little about the world.
@RatMasterRace
@RatMasterRace 22 дня назад
@@egwene7793 Starting to think? Americans are disconnected from reality outside the US. Chopping hands removed all crime? Like pls...
@kiyobot123
@kiyobot123 7 месяцев назад
Emily's confusing pronouns with adjectives. My prefered adjectives are funny, smart, and goodlooking.
@sumurssno
@sumurssno 7 месяцев назад
Princess is a noun.
@RS-xb9lo
@RS-xb9lo 7 месяцев назад
@@sumurssno Pretty is not a noun.
@genewood4489
@genewood4489 7 месяцев назад
And so are every other moron using pronouns. Seek mental help if you feel the need to use pronouns and force others to do so
@don7777s
@don7777s 7 месяцев назад
And yet you fail to get the point she was making
@don7777s
@don7777s 7 месяцев назад
​@@RS-xb9loyou failed to get her point... so call her what she wants to be called, you racist bigot.
@leolucas6232
@leolucas6232 7 месяцев назад
I would love to see Liberal immigrants vs. Conservative immigrants
@zo7554
@zo7554 7 месяцев назад
This!
@selimatenzin7484
@selimatenzin7484 7 месяцев назад
!!!!!!!!!!
@MegrelMamba
@MegrelMamba 7 месяцев назад
Conservative migrant 💪🏿🇬🇪💯
@Serenify10
@Serenify10 7 месяцев назад
I am a conservative immigrant! I would totally be down to participate!
@user-yy3dk8jn8j
@user-yy3dk8jn8j 7 месяцев назад
I agree because I never understood why conservatives escape their conservative countries and still try to empose those ideas
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 6 месяцев назад
Javen seems like one of those people who managed to get themselves brainwashed by Charles Manson. 😂
@dani_i8942
@dani_i8942 Месяц назад
He's pretty based now. Liberal commenter on this chanel are insufferable.
@TZ19999
@TZ19999 Месяц назад
@@dani_i8942 Brain rot
@Cheekydr4
@Cheekydr4 6 месяцев назад
Javen's heart was beating out of his chest at 34:38. There's something uneasy about him. Like there is something deeper going on with him internally. His defense of literal authoritarian governments was also shocking to witness. Him calling the "alphabet community" "perverse" was also an extreme jump. I really hope that he finds inner peace and surpasses whatever struggle he's going through.
@user-ut7pc7xg8w
@user-ut7pc7xg8w 6 месяцев назад
His heart calmed down a bit when he moved away from talking about the "alphabet community"
@Cheekydr4
@Cheekydr4 6 месяцев назад
​@user-ut7pc7xg8w I noticed this as well
@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH
@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH 6 месяцев назад
you honestly can make a case that Authoritarian style proves superior, as exemplified by Singapore, Saudi Arabia, and China, especially when comparing GDP advancement within the last 20 -30 year timeframe compared to their regional surrounding democratic counterparts..... Realize that if you take yourself out of a USA bubble, there are plenty of 15-party and 2-party democratic systems in the world that don't have better outcomes compared to Javen's referenced countries, especially in the recent timeframe. So, his point a 2-party system is not necessarily a horrible thing... especially if your asking for more parties. but theirs something internally wrong with him?
@aligreaper1941
@aligreaper1941 6 месяцев назад
i can’t believe you can actually hear his heart pumping😭
@taliaeategg2027
@taliaeategg2027 6 месяцев назад
​@@MrOBJECTIVETRUTHyou're only measuring GDP not freedom or happiness
@Mr.LetsBeF.R.A.N.K.
@Mr.LetsBeF.R.A.N.K. 7 месяцев назад
It's sad people didn't learn what a pronoun was in elementary school. Just because people want to be antagonistic, they forgot what it actually means.
@luismartins1713
@luismartins1713 7 месяцев назад
That is so true. I’m not really pro neopronouns, if you can call that, but pronouns are still pronouns and we all use them!
@Lochness19
@Lochness19 7 месяцев назад
@@luismartins1713 Yeah, what they should have said is that the don't believe in stating your pronouns. That they think which pronoun one should use should be self evident. Which usually it is.
@dustierbottoms
@dustierbottoms 7 месяцев назад
Wait…I’m confused. We were all taught what pronouns were in school - the traditional pronouns (his, her, we, its, them, your, our etc). But now there’s a list of a bagillion pronouns and I thought it was all a recent phenomenon. Are you saying they werent recently created? Her point was pronouns are basically descriptive so she choose “pronouns” that describe her (she choose adjectives). If you are creating pronouns and they can be whatever you want, why can’t you even use adjectives? Rationalizing one and not accepting the other seems rather absurd.
@user-nv9vn8fm1d
@user-nv9vn8fm1d 7 месяцев назад
@@dustierbottoms Not really. You can just use "they" for anyone. I've been at a liberal school for 4 years. Still haven't heard anyone use neopronouns. But if they did, I could either remember those pronouns, or use their name or use "they".
@dustierbottoms
@dustierbottoms 7 месяцев назад
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d wait just because you haven’t witnessed anyone using neopronouns, are you saying those people don’t exist? Bc neopronouns exist, they must be preferred pronouns for some people. And I imagine you would be someone that will respect their wishes. So, respect the wishes of someone that wishes to be addressed as princess. I don’t see how your point is relevant. And “they” implies 2 or more people. A English rule that was broken and redefined to accommodate a select group.
@pahtrice5424
@pahtrice5424 7 месяцев назад
Emily has GOT to be trolling you cannot be that delusional. Saying you love any politician is insane behavior
@deviantmoore9744
@deviantmoore9744 7 месяцев назад
America is literally the hub of politician-loving people, so I'm not sure why you're all acting so surprised. No country cares more about the person rather than their policies like America.
@Eclectic8
@Eclectic8 7 месяцев назад
To me, "grifter" is a term that fits even better.
@lumpypillowguy542
@lumpypillowguy542 7 месяцев назад
She worked for NewsMax. That should tell you enough
@Emariess
@Emariess 7 месяцев назад
i think the term is cuntrarian...
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 6 месяцев назад
Delusional how?
@hilarycoyote
@hilarycoyote 6 месяцев назад
Am I the only one who suspects Javen is a supressed homosexual? At the very least my Queerdar is screaming! "My conversion was very very very traumatic." Did he have conversion therapy done on him?
@dravenbarth9556
@dravenbarth9556 7 месяцев назад
Honestly, this was THE BEST episode yet. Everyone was able to articulate their points and everyone seemed receptive to the other persons points. This was genuinely great to see and give me more hope in the future!!
@yoshinoricheek
@yoshinoricheek 2 месяца назад
and there was emily
@jennadombroski1505
@jennadombroski1505 14 дней назад
I was just about to say "minus Emily*" 😂​@@yoshinoricheek
@lolneo8766
@lolneo8766 7 месяцев назад
I’m RELIEVED that they’re FINALLY talking about government corruption instead of fighting with each other.
@s.r6331
@s.r6331 7 месяцев назад
Same. Society have more in common then they think and that's because the govt puts labels on us to keep us divided
@spartanworrior4519
@spartanworrior4519 7 месяцев назад
But they didn’t actually address anything that leads to govt corruption
@lolneo8766
@lolneo8766 7 месяцев назад
@@spartanworrior4519Watch 26:13 how finally most of the people in the room are in agreement that the dual party system is flawed. This is the part where each side is picking apart the other side yet they can all agree that it’s the system that’s to blame for the division. They also talk about corruption.
@d.k.s.5919
@d.k.s.5919 7 месяцев назад
The government did a great job of really dividing us
@MikeyBlitz69
@MikeyBlitz69 7 месяцев назад
@@spartanworrior4519 Blud did not watch the whole video
@matthiaspuntel2001
@matthiaspuntel2001 7 месяцев назад
Emily: Ill never cut off a person for their political views. Also Emily: If I see pronouns in your bio I almost know who you are and so who to stay away from. BRUH
@xenolith5032
@xenolith5032 7 месяцев назад
There is a clear distinction between those two. "Cutting off" means she would never end a friendship just because of political disagreements. The pronoun thing is people she decides to stay away from and not interact with. Which is fine, her choices to make
@hippios
@hippios 7 месяцев назад
dude thats the most disingenuous comparison. do liberals lack elementary comprehension lol
@Robzabest25
@Robzabest25 7 месяцев назад
@@xenolith5032 but u arn't just born with pronoun in the bio it gradually gets added, so is she sstaying away this friend now? probably
@wheeler5382
@wheeler5382 7 месяцев назад
She's not wrong
@everythingisawesome2903
@everythingisawesome2903 7 месяцев назад
And where is the problem in that!?
@gracegoodwin2272
@gracegoodwin2272 7 месяцев назад
Javen is disturbing honestly… he’s saying he went from supporting his LGBT family members to thinking they are perverse/offensive. That’s f-ed up
@kateofone
@kateofone 2 месяца назад
Yeah it’s insane
@heistbros8575
@heistbros8575 Месяц назад
Not really, same way kids who grew up a pastors kid can come to hating their parents for preaching.
@AntiTMG
@AntiTMG Месяц назад
Well it doesn’t help when yaw wanna get close with kids and tell them about your sex lives
@jake-lynndobos659
@jake-lynndobos659 Месяц назад
​@AntiTMG saying hey some people are boys who like boys, girls who like girls. Isn't the same as saying hey let me tell you about this one time that I 69ed...
@RetroMMA
@RetroMMA Месяц назад
Because it's gross and demands you celebrate it...
@colt9916
@colt9916 7 месяцев назад
I would love a version of these videos without cuts. The long-form discussions would be highly interesting in contrast to the edited content. The full conversations would be very nice
@Thesilliestofthemall77
@Thesilliestofthemall77 День назад
I feel like hunter (red shirt guy) was cut of quite a bit, I'm his RU-vid he is very vocal about his arguments so it feels strange they cut him out so much
@Commonsenseisntcommon666
@Commonsenseisntcommon666 7 месяцев назад
Javen is such a checklist tribalist. When he was a liberal he made sure to check all the extreme liberal boxes. Now he’s a republican and checks all the extreme conservative views. He need some milk
@ivorythorntonpogue2070
@ivorythorntonpogue2070 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad somebody else said it. Like literally every time he spoke I grew increasingly more annoyed. I’m neither Democrat or Republican… real independent over here.
@mike-zy2bn
@mike-zy2bn 7 месяцев назад
He went from a progressive pos to conservative pos
@girlplease2452
@girlplease2452 7 месяцев назад
@@ivorythorntonpogue2070fr
@msierox
@msierox 7 месяцев назад
I’d call this an over correction.
@newwave3366
@newwave3366 7 месяцев назад
Leave him alone
@ShaquilleOatmeal849
@ShaquilleOatmeal849 7 месяцев назад
I love how Emily is every stereotype surrounding someone who isn't smart.
@jeniffervarela6066
@jeniffervarela6066 7 месяцев назад
It's almost like she's a real life Regina George. wow.
@bubba94290
@bubba94290 7 месяцев назад
@@jeniffervarela6066Regina George wouldn’t make politics their whole personality
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 7 месяцев назад
Someone trying to look smart
@jesusbarrera6916
@jesusbarrera6916 7 месяцев назад
what are all the stereotypes sorrounding someone who isn't smart?
@ShaquilleOatmeal849
@ShaquilleOatmeal849 7 месяцев назад
​@@jesusbarrera6916 Blonde, weirdly sarcastic tone, annoying high pitched voice, obsessive over something they have no idea about (in this case politics). I could go on but I don't want to list every single thing about her lol.
@dragonwhisperer1571
@dragonwhisperer1571 6 месяцев назад
I get the feeling that Emily is proclaiming whatever she thinks will get her the most attention - saying this as a conservative
@3Duardomarrufobailon
@3Duardomarrufobailon 3 месяца назад
She has okay opinions on her RU-vid channel “Emily saves America”.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 Месяц назад
@@3Duardomarrufobailon how..humble of her
@rgncajun21
@rgncajun21 7 месяцев назад
I thought I was gonna hate Emily most, but Javan took the cake! Congrats buddy! Yikes
@grannysh1fter612
@grannysh1fter612 День назад
Emily was irritating and flip floppy, Javen was just…. off putting and disturbing honestly.
@hillclimbracer5413
@hillclimbracer5413 7 месяцев назад
Javen explaining how traumatic becoming transphobic was to HIM, when he must've caused so much pain to his trans family members is actually baffling
@cel.2263
@cel.2263 7 месяцев назад
I was having such a hard time understanding what he meant because it was just so so so crazy and delulu
@jones2277
@jones2277 7 месяцев назад
i didn't get what he was saying. i hoped someone would ask him to clarify.
@avabackupaccount
@avabackupaccount 7 месяцев назад
honestly
@stephniek
@stephniek 7 месяцев назад
Does not being an ally means he's transphobic??
@in_a_tizzy
@in_a_tizzy 7 месяцев назад
@@stephniekYes. It is an emotional and ideological form of transphobia. He considers trans people to be living in perversion and no matter what love he may still hold for his trans family member, his perspective will cause them emotional harm
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 7 месяцев назад
That one chick confidently getting angry about pronouns and not having the first clue what they are, honestly I’m not surprised she ended up conservative with those solid reasoning skills.
@SGN30
@SGN30 7 месяцев назад
Which one? Please don't tell me the other one
@danieldenton5721
@danieldenton5721 7 месяцев назад
No one should be forced to call anyone a pronoun that does not fit the G they are. We don't have to live in a lie.
@zachary9385
@zachary9385 7 месяцев назад
⁠@@danieldenton5721do people who change their names also live in a lie? To me changing your pronouns just seems like a way of expressing yourself how you see fit.
@AristaRuMora
@AristaRuMora 7 месяцев назад
​@@danieldenton5721Congratulations, you just used the singular "they" without any trouble.
@hang3stitan138
@hang3stitan138 7 месяцев назад
@@danieldenton5721 bro forgot he’s supposed to be against the „they“ pronoun💀💀
@river_is_tired5352
@river_is_tired5352 6 месяцев назад
I wonder what Emily’s definition of “emo” was
@gameofvelets6421
@gameofvelets6421 6 месяцев назад
Listened to a pierce the veil song
@lilmisslizzyc
@lilmisslizzyc 6 месяцев назад
she liked Fall Out Boy and wore converse
@nl6731
@nl6731 3 месяца назад
She probably was an e-girl lol
@sophiestone5612
@sophiestone5612 2 месяца назад
Exactly what I was thinking
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 2 месяца назад
Put black nail polish on once.
@flowersafeheart
@flowersafeheart 5 месяцев назад
"You can pick yourself up AND you can except welfare." Yes. Yes! It does not make someone bad or lazy or incapable or less than to be open to receiving support and resourcing!! Humans are designed to thrive through interdependence and love. There is too much oppressive inequality and unfair, unsustainable power dynamics and hardship in the world for it to be as simple as "pick yourself up by your bootstraps." It truly is not always that simple. There is so much more I could say on that, some of it from lived experience. It takes strength to be willing to ask for help. Help literally saves lives.❤
@megax5000
@megax5000 7 месяцев назад
Panelist: i literally think democrats are political terrorists Comments section: wow what a polite and respectful discussion 😁🙏
@Magst3r1
@Magst3r1 7 месяцев назад
They always comment the same lol
@josiea.3855
@josiea.3855 7 месяцев назад
@Magst3r1 LITERALLY in every single debate, the comments are like "wow this is the most respectful debate I've ever seen". like they'd probably say that if two people started beating each other up in the middle of the panel 💀
@thestrawberrycherub
@thestrawberrycherub 7 месяцев назад
@@josiea.3855😂😂😂
@christianbahena5364
@christianbahena5364 7 месяцев назад
They're not wrong though? Same could be said for Republicans too and they wouldn't be wrong. Pretty much any corporatist anyways.
@1DuctTape1
@1DuctTape1 7 месяцев назад
@@christianbahena5364 Socialism🔛🔝
@LibertarianDude99
@LibertarianDude99 7 месяцев назад
Please make Socialists vs Liberals! So there'll be no more confusion surrounding Liberalism
@topleftfromtime
@topleftfromtime 7 месяцев назад
Thissss
@Norrieification
@Norrieification 7 месяцев назад
Destiny vs Hasan LET’S GOOOO!
@len-1768
@len-1768 7 месяцев назад
They currently have a casting call for that, though as leftists vs liberals.
@ashwinnaidoo796
@ashwinnaidoo796 7 месяцев назад
@@Norrieificationno not again pls 😭
@jant5127
@jant5127 7 месяцев назад
And facist vs Conservatives
@TravMakesaMove24
@TravMakesaMove24 6 месяцев назад
I love Samantha. She’s the kind of person I’d love to talk to for hours. Going from Conservative to Liberal is quite an interesting story to hear and this video has been so entertaining and indulging.
@lilmisslizzyc
@lilmisslizzyc 6 месяцев назад
and her glasses are fabulous, she seems awesome
@nineinchthread
@nineinchthread 5 месяцев назад
She seems really understanding of both sides even though she disagrees.
@samirkhosrowshahi7928
@samirkhosrowshahi7928 2 месяца назад
Yes! She seemed like the most aware person in the room and is the type of person that invites discussion.
@retcon1991
@retcon1991 6 месяцев назад
Javen is so indoctrinated. I don't trust anyone who cannot concede any ground to an opposing position.
@fisher3317
@fisher3317 Месяц назад
This is what happens when your political party becomes your identity.
@Scrungge
@Scrungge 7 месяцев назад
This was surprisingly less hostile than anticipated
@celica9098
@celica9098 7 месяцев назад
Because they understand where the other side is coming from.
@lilblackfish2009
@lilblackfish2009 7 месяцев назад
i wouldnt think it would cuz they been in both sides ,
@NicolaasBurgers
@NicolaasBurgers 7 месяцев назад
Like the other replies here, I would think the natural assumption is that it is those who have only ever been on one side, and not taken the time to properly understand the other, would be the most hostile. These people know both sides so much that few of them have 100% alignment with their 'side' across all issues.
@tl3657
@tl3657 7 месяцев назад
It's an issue though. How are multiple people perpetrating the lie about the election being "rigged" with barely any pushback? That's dangerous.
@cassanateli
@cassanateli 7 месяцев назад
The blonde girl was hella passive aggressive
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 7 месяцев назад
I would’ve liked to hear what caused them to change their beliefs.
@kathrine7813
@kathrine7813 7 месяцев назад
for hunter it was having kids. He's been very vocal about how having kids changed his views
@BRIYUHH
@BRIYUHH 7 месяцев назад
Well, liberal to conservative means that they either got super religious, or were indoctrinated/ given self hatred or some other form of hatred by someone in a minority group usually, and conservative to liberal is just people mentally maturing and making it so their views arent all for their own self interest/ gain.
@duckyrino5073
@duckyrino5073 7 месяцев назад
@@BRIYUHH see this youre part of the problem by saying when someone switches from lib to con its because this and that someone got to them and yayaya and being like oh con to lib is because they matured they got smarter is the stupidest thing i have ever read basically bringing us backwards SMH
@BarcelonaBlitzer
@BarcelonaBlitzer 7 месяцев назад
@@BRIYUHHThat “mentally maturing” aspect could be used for liberal to conservative. Agree with the the focus towards self tho.
@BRIYUHH
@BRIYUHH 7 месяцев назад
@@BarcelonaBlitzer you should read my paragraph too if you really believe it to be vice versa.
@stiff0ny262
@stiff0ny262 6 месяцев назад
I loved everything Blake said he was so well spoken and hit so many points
@Bestbuilt04
@Bestbuilt04 22 дня назад
He really wasn’t. He is very disrespectful to the other side
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 21 день назад
@@Bestbuilt04nah. He’s been being disrespected by conservatives his whole life. I can guarantee you that.
@kaimyrthil757
@kaimyrthil757 13 дней назад
“He’s not gonna end up in jail”
@Jay-zw5cf
@Jay-zw5cf 7 месяцев назад
Emily made me have to pause multiple times to collect myself and Javan literally went from radical liberalism to radical conservatism, I think he’s just very easily influenced and probably doesn’t think for himself much.
@junojx
@junojx 7 месяцев назад
glad i wasn't the only one who had to pause the video after something she said
@dubyah967
@dubyah967 7 месяцев назад
She is the worst
@ComfyCozyShelle
@ComfyCozyShelle 7 месяцев назад
How to think for yourself?
@Blueeyesinthesky
@Blueeyesinthesky 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like you have a problem hearing other people’s opinions.
@Bobbyheebee
@Bobbyheebee 7 месяцев назад
Javen reminded me exactly of my ex-roommate - even down to the way they hesitate as they talk. He too was easily influenced and how he portrayed himself publicly would regularly not align with his behavior in the home.
@dakotagreen0524
@dakotagreen0524 7 месяцев назад
Movie goers vs. Movie critics would be a really fun episode.
@sunsetlollypops437
@sunsetlollypops437 7 месяцев назад
Moviegoer's twenty dollars down Loves to throw their film knowledge around the workplace Movie director is going down too Twenty million dollars, still nobody understands youuuuuuuuu
@MiguelBorgesphotography
@MiguelBorgesphotography 7 месяцев назад
Yesss
@estri5402
@estri5402 7 месяцев назад
Alternatively, filmmakers vs film critics
@andrewgoldin675
@andrewgoldin675 7 месяцев назад
This was quite literally the political equivalent of that 😂, I highly doubt a single one of them has read and finished a single book on theory, whether it be Marxist or otherwise…
@Valentinasc2
@Valentinasc2 7 месяцев назад
​@@estri5402yesss
@columbiaamericana2878
@columbiaamericana2878 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for hosting these videos. Conversations between people with different opinions are so uncommon these days and these videos are a great way to hear from someone with a different perspective.
@Blueeyesinthesky
@Blueeyesinthesky 7 месяцев назад
This was a great video and it was really nice to see people on both sides respectfully listening to each other and having a calm and practical discussion about these topics.
@topsenMusic
@topsenMusic 7 месяцев назад
Hunter is the smartest person in that room and he spoke the least. The biggest problem in American society is that idiots speak the loudest.
@user-yg9wx1sc2l
@user-yg9wx1sc2l 7 месяцев назад
He spoke a lot but jubilee cut it out, Probably to make it seem like an even discussion.
@zr1129
@zr1129 7 месяцев назад
We have too many Emilys and not enough Hunters.
@Lilyium
@Lilyium 7 месяцев назад
Kari was also very articulated and spoke very concisely.
@shani5345
@shani5345 7 месяцев назад
How was he the smartest person?
@GS2k4
@GS2k4 7 месяцев назад
Hunter avallone is a 🤡
@sacreddatura1399
@sacreddatura1399 7 месяцев назад
Javen was lowkey like extremely scary. You don’t just completely overhaul your worldview and belief system with absolutely no overlap without some other factors being in play whether it’s internal or external. Also saying he thinks his own family members are sexually perverse for simply existing is really sad.
@rickym1046
@rickym1046 7 месяцев назад
He is clearly deeply troubled and is grasping from one extreme to another
@ana13910
@ana13910 7 месяцев назад
It's sad when you see actual indoctrination. To fully reject absolutely everything you stood for so absolutely and without nuance seldom happens without a lot of outside influence.
@reneeontop39
@reneeontop39 7 месяцев назад
i thought it was just me
@slav1453
@slav1453 7 месяцев назад
@@thomasjefferson6334 LMAO, now all liberals are on drugs ? classic braindead assumption coming from a classic braindead conservative
@ethancoley5521
@ethancoley5521 7 месяцев назад
Fr! Like I saw so many comments praising this for being a respectful debate but he was fr out here saying that queer people are perverse lol. It’s insaneeee. Idk why people refuse to see queer people as just… normal people. I have a lot of LGBT people in my bubble and everyone who isn’t LGBT is abundantly accepting and understanding. It’s always such a shock to see people like this actually still exist.
@Chapterhouse86
@Chapterhouse86 6 месяцев назад
I am so glad Keri was invited on here! She is a gem of a human being and I love her! Check out her podcast yall!
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 5 месяцев назад
Link plz?
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij 5 месяцев назад
Yeah she’s really smart and great. Great episode idea,
@Brandon-vi8vy
@Brandon-vi8vy 7 месяцев назад
At least in this one everyone is actually having a dialogue. No screaming at each other for once. I like this
@sashwathtanmay4033
@sashwathtanmay4033 7 месяцев назад
emily is the kind of girl who chooses her beliefs and personality based off of current trends
@mar35962
@mar35962 7 месяцев назад
bingo!
@David.124
@David.124 7 месяцев назад
But aren’t her beliefs against the current trends
@sir6979
@sir6979 7 месяцев назад
Her beliefs are against current trends
@alecklecky
@alecklecky 7 месяцев назад
Wrong, her current beliefs and personality is against the current trend.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn 7 месяцев назад
How?
@x12danx
@x12danx 7 месяцев назад
I think a tragic flaw that people have, regardless of their side, is that they assume that they have things completely figured out, whether it’s about our elections, the media, or gender politics, you never hear people show humility in how actually little they know about the nuances of each topic and will give oversimplified takes so confidently.
@chelsealee6349
@chelsealee6349 7 месяцев назад
I agree. To me, the truth lives in the grey area & people so desperately want it to be black & white & it just isn’t. The internet has also really ramped this lack of nuance up bc people can just find huge echo chambers that give the illusion of things being absolute.
@noprogressionisregression6854
@noprogressionisregression6854 7 месяцев назад
🫰👏👏👏👏
@ZimmyZon0
@ZimmyZon0 7 месяцев назад
It could also be that there was some editing done or that they didn't have enough time for the topic, I'm sure there may be some reaction videos later on where they can go more on the topic but I agree it's hard to believe that some of these are just black and white.
@rileydaily5426
@rileydaily5426 7 месяцев назад
But that's their truth. It's just what they feel 🤷
@BroJo676
@BroJo676 7 месяцев назад
​@@overlordfemto7523Thank you. I rolled my eyes so much that I thought I'd be going blind.
@Captivekaiju
@Captivekaiju 14 дней назад
I don’t think Emily knows a single thing she’s talking about because every other word that comes out of her mouth is a contradiction.
@shmootube5000
@shmootube5000 21 день назад
there’s no goddamn way Emily was liberal. she joyfully spouted about every conservative cliche in the first 10 seconds her mouth opened. she probably just voted liberal because she got confused.
@machaisley2985
@machaisley2985 7 месяцев назад
I don't think Emily is either democratic nor republican. I think she went on this strictly for views. She talks like a very stereotypical republican you'd mock tbh. She did it for the publicity. She uses buzz words rather than actual logical thoughts to explain herself. Yikes.
@jessisunderwater
@jessisunderwater 7 месяцев назад
Totally.
@TruantAll
@TruantAll 7 месяцев назад
She should not have been on this episode. Jubilee should vet these discussions better, first maybe by testing if participants know what a pronoun is
@calmyourmind5665
@calmyourmind5665 7 месяцев назад
I noticed she kept going for the center chair or as close as she could get.
@MaddenFifa
@MaddenFifa 7 месяцев назад
She's the SNL version of Tomi Lahren
@prncessbaby16
@prncessbaby16 7 месяцев назад
​@@calmyourmind5665i seriously thought that was just camera angling but i noticed that she seemed to be in the middle a lot as well. She sat down for EVERY topic so far but im only halfway through.
@113wy
@113wy 7 месяцев назад
javen’s one extreme to another is actually a bit worrying to me. he seems very brainwashed & lacking his own identity and opinion, whereas the others all held a stronger grasp on their own opinions and identity, changing some, yet keeping others, and such. for example, strongly empathising with the lgbt community and being an ally turning to a strong hatred where you view the lgbt (or alphabet as he said) as perverted. it’s very concerning how much he seems to lack a genuine grasp of his own identities and opinions and seems to be so stuck into his current ideologies to the point he says he will never, and he emphasises that again, go back to any former opinions. i hope he can get a proper grasp on himself as an individual and form his own opinions and such.
@RomyElizabeth
@RomyElizabeth 7 месяцев назад
amen 🙏 that guy is lost
@josiestephens1671
@josiestephens1671 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I agree. Everyone else had reasoning and stuck to their own.
@chicken122333
@chicken122333 6 месяцев назад
He’s just young and learning . Y’all need to have grace. Like calm down..
@alliebkeck4898
@alliebkeck4898 6 месяцев назад
Poor guy is just stuck. I wish the best for him.
@113wy
@113wy 6 месяцев назад
@@chicken122333 when did i seem as if i wasn’t calm?
@MrJoshuadh81
@MrJoshuadh81 4 месяца назад
Wow, GREAT episode. This is what Middle Ground is all about! As the episode went on, pretty much all of them became more and more respectful, expressed their own opinions while simultaneously working to connect with the other side. Well done!👍
@tcsr16
@tcsr16 7 месяцев назад
love this episode. so much more civil than the other ones
@mickeyely1253
@mickeyely1253 7 месяцев назад
I love this group. No one was talking over each other had respect for each other's opinion
@ethandollarhide7943
@ethandollarhide7943 7 месяцев назад
Emily literally doesn't understand pronouns.
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining 7 месяцев назад
Ze zim zerrrrrrre
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining 7 месяцев назад
From now on refer me to as invader zim 😂😂😂
@ajs1998
@ajs1998 7 месяцев назад
@@ethandollarhide7943 Or what "ironically" means. She just throws it in wherever.
@ethandollarhide7943
@ethandollarhide7943 7 месяцев назад
@@triple_gem_shining Ok.
@bbeth4
@bbeth4 7 месяцев назад
Bro how did the blond girl say she would never cut someone off for their political beliefs but then say if you have pronouns in your bio that means she can assume where your beliefs lie in a lot of areas and she stays away… like the hypocrisy is pretty unreal
@Indie_Live
@Indie_Live 7 месяцев назад
It's not necessarily that she would cut them off, she just knows what their personality is like and how they act, which is what she stays away from.
@bbeth4
@bbeth4 7 месяцев назад
@@Indie_Livelike don’t get me wrong she was acc one of my favourites and I agreed with a lot of her view points but I still feel those too sentences sooo close to each other was a bit wild 😂
@westonnorthington8717
@westonnorthington8717 7 месяцев назад
cognitive dissonance baby
@ppgurl420
@ppgurl420 7 месяцев назад
​@@Indie_Livethat sounds like profiling to me
@Indie_Live
@Indie_Live 7 месяцев назад
@@ppgurl420 probably is, but if you have seen a specific trait in a lot of really annoying people would you really want to start talking to people with that trait? Probably not
@justwanttomakeaplaylist5345
@justwanttomakeaplaylist5345 7 месяцев назад
I feel like this is a the best middle ground I’ve seen. People are actually able to discuss and find a middle ground here because they have been on both sides
7 месяцев назад
Thanks for putting on these conversations! This is what we need in this country. We might not agree on everything but we can be civil and find common ground. All is not lost. ❤
@CJDavis-js7mr
@CJDavis-js7mr 7 месяцев назад
I love the premise here because everyone arguing for one side intimately understands the other. Which is something I think is often lacking in American political discourse
@BighomieRich
@BighomieRich 7 месяцев назад
They agree about how they feel about things but they’ve got no idea how to organize around anything…so it’s all for nothing
@dr1flush
@dr1flush 7 месяцев назад
That doesn't make you intimate with both parties. That shows you are actually the opposite
@TierDvik
@TierDvik 7 месяцев назад
@@dr1flush Being someone that went through the change in political ideas... you are wrong. While I am no conservative I am no longer a liberal in the current sense. I know what it means, I know what and WHY they think the way the do... and now I know why the conservatives do as well. I am just not in the bubble of either side anymore.
@JrobAlmighty
@JrobAlmighty 7 месяцев назад
@@TierDvikit almost seems as though if everyone started getting real and used more independent thought, rather than herd behavior, then maybe we could eventually agree to disagree and just vote our preferences.
@TierDvik
@TierDvik 7 месяцев назад
@@JrobAlmighty And as it was pointed out. There are plenty of people in power that dont WANT us thinking or voting that way. It makes sense... they lose power the more independent we the people become.
@calebmills6051
@calebmills6051 7 месяцев назад
Javen sounds like he’s trying to convince himself of his own beliefs mid conversation 💀😅
@eevee2411
@eevee2411 6 месяцев назад
Lol yeah it sounds like he's never actually thought about it. He just read or watched stuff and ran with it. Now that he's having to say it out loud by himself he's realising it's all inconsistent and doesn't make sense.
@cjpeery
@cjpeery 6 месяцев назад
He actually kinda sounds like he’s foreign if you listen to his accent.
@rowans-lvrs
@rowans-lvrs 6 месяцев назад
i know the ex liberals were saying that conservatives are rarely even offended but tbh I think they are just passive aggressive. and how he seems so CONFUSED 😭 it's like he doesn't know what he believes anymore. it's crazy seeing grown adults silently argue with each other. I would probably cry after being in one of these Jubilee's
@zoewoey
@zoewoey 5 месяцев назад
@@rowans-lvrs i would cry too bc wdym there’s people that don’t agree w me 😕🙏
@truthseeker-nv6ny
@truthseeker-nv6ny 4 месяца назад
​@@rowans-lvrs yeah very traumatising when people don't agree with me on everything
@UpBeatCpr
@UpBeatCpr 6 месяцев назад
I am so grateful that this is happening 🙏🏼 we are millions strong!! Those of us with beliefs in the MIDDLE GROUND. I got chills listening.
@gracieallan8145
@gracieallan8145 3 месяца назад
This was my favorite so far of all the middle ground episodes
@AaronBrooks0321
@AaronBrooks0321 7 месяцев назад
Javen is a true follower. I dont think he's formulated any of his own thoughts his entire life
@robertraab
@robertraab 7 месяцев назад
Seriously, is there a single strawman he didn't regurgitate?
@WhensMahvel
@WhensMahvel 7 месяцев назад
I don't think there was a single pulse of independent thought there breh.
@TonkaJay
@TonkaJay 7 месяцев назад
Yes. That is exactly Hunter.
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 7 месяцев назад
Why do you say this?
@kpoverloaddd
@kpoverloaddd 7 месяцев назад
@@Shockkings0714because he doesn’t have a clue what he’s saying. just regurgitated takes he’s heard from everyone else in his life
@tyborg314
@tyborg314 7 месяцев назад
the reason why this was so pleasant is because both sides have empathy for their previous positions. Also, there's always that voice inside that still agrees with your previous positions whether or not you no longer cognitively or intellectually agree with it.
@Seantherightway06
@Seantherightway06 7 месяцев назад
As someone who has changed their beliefs drastically over the past decade, this is something that I have struggled with at times, as well as why I feel this might be one of the best episodes yet.
@Dr.Hussein-gi3ue
@Dr.Hussein-gi3ue 7 месяцев назад
Not true, conservatives are psychologically incapable of feeling empathy
@Godredstudios
@Godredstudios 7 месяцев назад
Yea except for Javen ofc
@empressofawesome7099
@empressofawesome7099 7 месяцев назад
I didn't think about this. Yes, I feel they DID listen to each other & have more empathy etc. more than some people in some other episodes and maybe the reason you said is why, cos they DO have empathy for their previous positions.
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 6 месяцев назад
This was very eye-opening. Thank you Jubilee for hosting this!
@wiballaonasiaa1
@wiballaonasiaa1 Месяц назад
This was extremely well done, all of them had great talks.
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 7 месяцев назад
The guy with the locs was well spoken and I agreed with him on nearly everything. A very balanced viewpoint on every topic
@FrazOH
@FrazOH 7 месяцев назад
Bc he grew up in a two parent home that was conservative.
@givemeliberty700
@givemeliberty700 7 месяцев назад
He seems high AF lol that's what I picked up on , smokers know another smoker lol
@guyandalaptop434
@guyandalaptop434 7 месяцев назад
@@FrazOHwhats that got to do with his viewpoint?
@cringeusername9705
@cringeusername9705 7 месяцев назад
@@FrazOHThe conservatives in this vid seem pretty psychotic so I don’t think your logic is sound here.
@yoshinoricheek
@yoshinoricheek 2 месяца назад
​@@FrazOHhe probably thought he didn't want to end up like his parents
@y4bujeans
@y4bujeans 7 месяцев назад
the blonde girl who called pronouns delusional but 100% goes by she/her lmaoooo
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 7 месяцев назад
would you say hey her or hey she? haha So she believes in the meaning of words. Maybe you do not comprehend what a pronoun is.
@kinglouie9685
@kinglouie9685 7 месяцев назад
​@@takentimes8903she doesn't know what a pronoun is and got called out about it 🤷🏽‍♂️
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 7 месяцев назад
@@kinglouie9685 please define pronoun and how it is used with some example. thank you.
@jeffreychandler8418
@jeffreychandler8418 7 месяцев назад
@@takentimes8903 I'm going to assume you're not braindead Definition: a word that can function by itself as a noun phrase and that refers either to the participants in the discourse (e.g., I, you ) or to someone or something mentioned elsewhere in the discourse (e.g., she, it, this ). I just used "you're", that's a pronoun. You also you used "you" multiple times. As for the second part of that definition, "...mentioned elsewhere". we can easily say "Emily was a former liberal. She believe in this this and this. The group believed her when she said this". It's not hard when you have a 2nd grade reading level.
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 7 месяцев назад
@@jeffreychandler8418 A pronoun also refers to gender and there are 2 genders. And for you last sentence I believe you might have made to the 3rd grade and that is giving you the benefit of the doubt. if you reply I might change my mind and my pronoun for the night is king.
@dloesch
@dloesch 7 месяцев назад
I love how all the participants were open to hearing each other's views - maybe because they'd all gone through a process of re-examining and changing their own beliefs so they were already used to being more open-minded, regardless of their beliefs.
@prideisreal9461
@prideisreal9461 6 месяцев назад
0:02 “YOU’LL never meet a republican that uses pronouns” so who’s going to tell her “you” is a pronoun? 💀
@ellaverte2333
@ellaverte2333 6 месяцев назад
The Americans arnt known for their intelligence
@InfCrash
@InfCrash 7 дней назад
@@ellaverte2333 huh? youre typing on a american app watching an american made video on your american phone😂
@anovosedlik
@anovosedlik 7 месяцев назад
'It was very very very traumatic to become conservative' says Javen after his whole 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't complain' speech? Wow.
@ZeldaKid5000
@ZeldaKid5000 6 месяцев назад
Found that comment hilarious considering it is literaly impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Like the physics doesn't work, and it says so much about that particular saying
@dirock_1518
@dirock_1518 6 месяцев назад
Also the fact that his traumatic story was literally just having a transgender family member?? But then claims the other side is too emotional.
@erileigh969
@erileigh969 6 месяцев назад
I thought the "bootstraps" type didn't believe in trauma...or mental health for that matter...🙃
@saramysko1022
@saramysko1022 6 месяцев назад
Its a phrase/metaphor. “A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isn't literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison.” Classic liberal making decisions based off of an emotional base rather than a logical one.😂
@anovosedlik
@anovosedlik 6 месяцев назад
@@saramysko1022 And you are the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. None of us here needed you to copy and paste the definition of a metaphor, sweetie. Zelda is correct. A metaphor only works if the premises are 1:1. The bootstrap metaphor is using a physical scenario in order to illustrate an abstract concept. However, the scenario isn't possible according to the laws of physics and therefore, the metaphor doesn't make any sense because you cannot equate it to the situation abstractly. If, physically, it were possible to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, the metaphor would hold water. I know you're a little lacking in brain cells, so please just do a little more reading on parts of speech. Abstract thinking is clearly not your strength.
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 7 месяцев назад
Unironically saying "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" makes anything else you say largely irrelevant. Tough love is very important, but tough love is not the same as being completely hands off and letting people suffer needlessly.
@dreamcoyote
@dreamcoyote 7 месяцев назад
Yep. Thankfully these days the original meaning of that phrase is coming back to cultural understanding. It's literally an impossible task and worded that way. Kind of makes me want to see where that meaning flip flopped, who brought it about, and if it was intentional.
@jessycac6311
@jessycac6311 7 месяцев назад
I agree, some people are born without any hypothetical “boot straps” to lift themselves up with (or would hands be better to say?). It’s our duty as a society to help people who need it, as it also helps us as a collective.
7 месяцев назад
But the thing is Republicans back school choice, birthing centers, and have charites for widows and single mothers. Republicans are significantly more charitable than Liberals. So we put our money where it counts.
@kpstl26
@kpstl26 7 месяцев назад
​@@jessycac6311you're still not understanding. The whole point is it doesn't matter if you have them or not, it's physically impossible to lift yourself up using them.
@Rizzler68.9
@Rizzler68.9 7 месяцев назад
It’s definitely possible
@Mackenziie3
@Mackenziie3 6 месяцев назад
This was a great episode. Nice comversation
@andrealynn776
@andrealynn776 6 месяцев назад
What i wish about debates is that the correct party would openly acknowledge the disagreeing parties complaints. I think we could get alot further in discussion if people would start openly acknowledging and repeating back that they understand the opposing teams argument, and then lead into why thats not enough.
@rlrcia
@rlrcia 7 месяцев назад
So refreshing to listen to a civil discussion as opposed to Blossom and Blaire.
@samj5183
@samj5183 7 месяцев назад
Blossom and Blair, it sounds like a 90s sitcom 😂
@adyanuwu8690
@adyanuwu8690 7 месяцев назад
blossom* only 👀
@aloe704
@aloe704 7 месяцев назад
@@samj5183 HAHAHA
@gonaedeath2
@gonaedeath2 7 месяцев назад
Those two together was brutal
@erenjaeger1738
@erenjaeger1738 7 месяцев назад
​@@samj5183blosson *testosterone* kick in thats y
@hunteravallone
@hunteravallone 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for having me on Jubilee. Although I am disappointed to see the majority of my moments cut out and put behind a paywall, I still am grateful for the opportunity. Thanks again for putting this together 😊
@len-1768
@len-1768 7 месяцев назад
It's great watching you on this video. I'll watch the extended cut later.
@Meee22222
@Meee22222 7 месяцев назад
You did a great job, Hunter.
@aloe704
@aloe704 7 месяцев назад
Agreed! I wish I could see the religion part... but I can't afford it lol
@SkilledTadpole
@SkilledTadpole 7 месяцев назад
I really appreciated your takes in this exchange! Didn't know of you as a content creator before this, but am definitely subscribing to see more of your takes.
@thebanj0271
@thebanj0271 7 месяцев назад
If you debate Daniel Haqiqatjou/TheMuslimSkeptic you'd get humiliated
@TheStylelike16th
@TheStylelike16th 5 месяцев назад
This was such a great conversation. Thank you for all of the participants who shared their opinions. I definitely enjoyed questioning my beliefs and reinforcing some others.
@wizzteck07
@wizzteck07 6 месяцев назад
Very interesting video. I think it’s a bummer that the moderator sometimes wants to „pull it back“. I get that that’s what moderators do in discussions but they always choose moments where the participants really start to get into it.
@finlaing795
@finlaing795 7 месяцев назад
These people don't realise just HOW conservative Hunter used to be. Buddy had a revelation
@jamorains
@jamorains 7 месяцев назад
no, he found a liberal girlfriend
@Zenith9132
@Zenith9132 7 месяцев назад
You can kinda tell by his name lol
@greencreekranch
@greencreekranch 7 месяцев назад
@@Zenith9132 it does not stop to amaze me, that the last pres election was between a dude whose sons are named Donald and Eric and a dude whose sons are called Hunter and Beau. If you knew none of them, i feel like theres no way youd correctly guess their party affiliation
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 7 месяцев назад
Javen reminds me of a guy I used to work with. Grew up very religious (Christian) and was always espousing those beliefs until he met an Imam and fully converted to Islam. Then later he started hanging with a more liberal group and abandoned religion and became pro-LGBT etc. He was just so easily influenced, his entire life philosophy became based on whatever direction someone else steered him in.
@nicholas8484
@nicholas8484 7 месяцев назад
lol
@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594
@dukkyfuzzfuzzydukk3594 7 месяцев назад
Look in the mirror
@TruantAll
@TruantAll 7 месяцев назад
People change, bro 😎 Don’t hate on another person’s evolution because of the degree or volume of change, unless you truly understand their reasons Let’s be more compassionate as a society
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 7 месяцев назад
@@TruantAll Wasn’t hating, just an observation. I got to know him very well and the point still stands. He can live his life as he sees fit.
@kalleakseli
@kalleakseli 7 месяцев назад
agree 100% definitely very easily persuaded
@anonymouskat6661
@anonymouskat6661 6 месяцев назад
I loved this discussion. Huge respect to everyone in this video for being so open about their views.
@lazilysofia5904
@lazilysofia5904 7 месяцев назад
generally this is my favorite conversation middle ground has platformed in a while
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, it was a well-chosen collection of people who behaved very civilly towards each other. I wish this episode was longer.
@ShinyGolduck5
@ShinyGolduck5 7 месяцев назад
Hunter was spot on about, both sides having tribalistic tendencies.
@kingpandaman6411
@kingpandaman6411 7 месяцев назад
He has a RU-vid channel btw hunter avallone
@amberjulia123
@amberjulia123 7 месяцев назад
Except when the prompt of “Changing political sides was traumatic for me” came on - *every* former liberal stepped forward, whilst only 1 former conservative stepped forward (and she was the one raised in a weirdly religious family). IMO, if both sides were equally tribalistic and cultish - then an even amount of people from *both* sides would have stepped forward on that prompt.
@pianoman3255
@pianoman3255 7 месяцев назад
​@amberjulia123 these are 4 peoples anecdotal experiences. You cannot use anecdotes with sample size this small to draw conclusions.
@smalmon
@smalmon 7 месяцев назад
@@amberjulia123 Sampling bias. There's no way a group of 10 people can represent Americans equally. Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't change the fact that the two party system is very polarizing. I'm sure hundreds of thousands or millions of both former Republicans and Democrats have had traumatic experiences switching sides. But saying one is side is worse at something than the other is very polarizing to both sides.
@YehudiNimol
@YehudiNimol 7 месяцев назад
​@@amberjulia123conformation bias. You can't see the full picture when the video only presents the expeirences of 8 people out of tens of thousands. Also note that many of the people i Jubilee's videos are influencers and aren't picked randomly
@sam-xr5zq
@sam-xr5zq 7 месяцев назад
emily saying she doesn’t care about people’s feelings says a LOT about her
@kitchenknivesandforks
@kitchenknivesandforks 6 месяцев назад
yeahhh idk how people feel like that…. it’s fr crazy to me like that’s scary 😭
@erileigh969
@erileigh969 6 месяцев назад
Says she doesn't care about the feelings of others and then basically says she cares about the feelings of others...SMH🤔 She is embarrassing herself over and over...and the pronoun comment was so ignorant...
@shadowperson779
@shadowperson779 6 месяцев назад
Facts don't care about your feelings.
@sam-xr5zq
@sam-xr5zq 6 месяцев назад
@@shadowperson779 irrelevant argument
@shadowperson779
@shadowperson779 6 месяцев назад
@@sam-xr5zq it's very relevant since you brought up feelings.
@JoJoPsyChick
@JoJoPsyChick 7 месяцев назад
I really liked this group, very interesting povs
@user-sx6vv3ge7t
@user-sx6vv3ge7t 7 месяцев назад
Emily loves to hear herself talk geez
@Dani-grace
@Dani-grace 7 месяцев назад
Kari is one of the best guests you’ve had on this show - articulate, kind and thoughtful. No matter your perspective, it’s nice to witness someone substantial discussing hard topics
@RonLarhz
@RonLarhz 7 месяцев назад
Lmfao. She's the only one who kept saying "woke" . She disguise her crazies so well that it goes over most people. Not surprised if she's a narc.
@PhiladelphiaChurchIL
@PhiladelphiaChurchIL 7 месяцев назад
She has an excellent podcast
@stlcameron22
@stlcameron22 7 месяцев назад
@@PhiladelphiaChurchIL what's her podcast? I wanna hear more from her
@theiceyhawttstunna6631
@theiceyhawttstunna6631 7 месяцев назад
I loved her! You could tell she was intelligent
@RachelDee
@RachelDee 7 месяцев назад
I think her podcast now is Kerfefe Break. I’ve followed her for 4 years back when she used to part of Unsafe Space. Heads up, you will find burned bridges and skeletons with other people in her past if you look. But yes, overall, she’s a net positive in the online political sphere.
@noelmsp007
@noelmsp007 7 месяцев назад
There is always that one participant that talks wherever a second of silence lingers. And today it's Emily. She talked for about 80% of the air time, while adding the least to the conversations. So weird.
@BittersweetDuality
@BittersweetDuality 7 месяцев назад
She’s the worst
@Amzzyyo
@Amzzyyo 7 месяцев назад
Shes delusional - I could tell within 2 questions that she was going to have some CRAZY talking points. Nothing she said added to the conversation, and for someone who thinks liberals are "too emotional", she certainly spoke about how she "feels" a lot - she doesn't have any factual basis for her beliefs. Heck she doesn't even know WHAT a pronoun is, she just knows she doesn't like them. Conservatives are all toddlers throwing their toys out of the pram because they think they're being told what to do - they don't want to educate themselves, they just want to get their own way. Its so embarrassing.
@user-yp9iu2qy9w
@user-yp9iu2qy9w 7 месяцев назад
There's a lot of editing in these videos, I found her funny and refreshing.
@Rerizz
@Rerizz 7 месяцев назад
​@@user-yp9iu2qy9wshe's just annoying 😭
@tavinwallack24
@tavinwallack24 7 месяцев назад
Actually Emily is in the best position of all these guests. She has a middle ground mindset. I understand why you're saying that tho. But the few things she added were powerful. I'm sure most people would agree with you tho
@natalieanne2851
@natalieanne2851 7 месяцев назад
This is the most constructive middle ground discussion I’ve ever watched 🎉
@xXPurpleLoliTranceXx
@xXPurpleLoliTranceXx 6 месяцев назад
Why does Emily go about explaining anything as if she’s talking about her favorite Starbucks drink?
@CadiganColeman
@CadiganColeman 7 месяцев назад
I’d love to also see another liberal vs conservative but this time with a couple people from each generation (gen Z, millennials, gen x, and baby boomers). I think a lot of interesting points could be brought up with a diverse age group who have lived through many different experiences!
@Uchiha_D._Ackerman
@Uchiha_D._Ackerman 7 месяцев назад
This! 100% agree!
@caffeinatedshawty
@caffeinatedshawty 7 месяцев назад
YES!!!
@Bruncleboxtop
@Bruncleboxtop 7 месяцев назад
Gen Z Conservative versus Boomer Liberals would be FASCINATING
@SGN30
@SGN30 7 месяцев назад
​​@@Bruncleboxtopthey've done that before already
@CrankyBarista
@CrankyBarista 7 месяцев назад
Ive noticed they do tend to leave out gen x in most extreme opposite episodes. It seems like its always boomers vs zoomers.
@leomai9507
@leomai9507 7 месяцев назад
Emily did contradict herself, when she said she would never cut someone off for their personal political beliefs, then proceeds to also say she would stay away from people who didn’t have the same political beliefs.
@andyruiz5676
@andyruiz5676 7 месяцев назад
I’m pretty sure she just means that she’s not gonna cut any of her friends out but when it comes to new people it’s a little different
@Oropel
@Oropel 7 месяцев назад
In theory, my beliefs and takes on politics agree with her, but she as a person strikes me as insufferable, attention seeking and annoying… which leads me to think that it is perfectly okay to disagree with someone on your political sphere, if they lack common sense it's game over.
@simpleplanfan011
@simpleplanfan011 7 месяцев назад
Bingo. I caught that too.
@itsmj3103
@itsmj3103 7 месяцев назад
She was contradicting herself on almost anything. She sits down and says one thing, then another person sits down and says something opposite of that and she says "oh yeah totalaayyy" 🙄 She's just a grifter. She acts like an AI chatbot - she will agree with anything as long as the interaction continues.
@lotusgrl444
@lotusgrl444 7 месяцев назад
​@@andyruiz5676yea thats how I interpreted her comment too
@Dr.CerddwrCysgodol
@Dr.CerddwrCysgodol 2 дня назад
The conversation here seemed very civil compared to quite a few of the other Middle Ground episodes I have watch. I feel the fact that these are focusing more on the concept of "conservative" and "liberal" versus a political party kept the civility. Great job Jubilee.
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