Formula Student Crash 

Difficult track and a difficult car. I'd say he's at the right place to learn.

This looks hard to drive. The car does its own things.

appatently everyone is lewis hamilton in this comment section

Show me someone who has succeeded at something without failing, and I’ll show you someone who has never left their comfort zone.

This is a bloody difficult track in a game itself. That's a little terrifying.

Rear locked up under braking, probably more to do with the sketchily built car than anything,and those shift paddles are WAAAY too far away. Fully reaching out your fingers to shift is insane.

what i wouldnt give to have a track like this in my country

Mad props for the Honda steering wheel.

The fact the tyre wall starts where the crash happens is probably no coincidence. It is a tricky spot.

That looks like a really hard track and a really difficult car to ride. Respect to him for challenging himself and being a true man of engineering and testing for the knowledge of his team.

pretty piss-poor paddle placement...

Thanks to your comments! We often use this course to do shakedown or other tests. We will soon upload the same accident video from different view point.

jesus christ this comment section has the "i play forza so i know what im talking about" syndrome...

wow, is a difficult car in a difficult track, it looks terrifying, congrats on having a good control of the car

Tricky cars to handle, can’t blame him for loosing control. Just the nature of race cars in general, no self centring, high speed, requires maximum concentration and confidence. He was doing pretty well too

halo saved you

these cars are incredibly hard to drive... very short wheelbase, LOTS of power, rock hard tires... He was doing pretty good actually

Too much rear brake bias and inadequate suspension to absorb those bumps

it was all that honda steering wheel

Maldonados fault...

Please keep in mind when I’m stating the following that I am NOT a mechanic or a professional race car driver. I simply just do Sim-Racing / Track days and race Karts competitively. Now with that said this looks like a multitude of issues, poor suspension, driving style, bad track, cold tires, awful paddle placement, bad brake bias. But it seemed to me that he upset the car due to the poor suspension coming into the braking zone, then got into the brakes which got the rear end light especially with the car already upset, he either panicked or misjudged the braking and locked the rear up and ended up spinning around. You can see from the lap previous he corrected lift off oversteer in the same part of the track. Lot of things to be improved and taken away from here

Ericsson hit him! You can see it on 2:12

Poor line of racing you should consider turning on assist line in options

That moment you recognise a track because of a mobile racing game.

take your hands off wheel when you spin out, and dont keep your thumbs inside the wheel, always have them resting on it, that way you dont break your wrist or thumbs.

Look carefully at 0:01 you can see the exact moment he ran out of talent.

So weird that Formula Student sounds better than actuall F1. Moment of silence.

Amazing how a little twitch in the steering wheel under braking can completely destabilise the car. Makes you appreciate all one seater racing drivers even more.

2:12 When you start an IndyCar Race on iRacing in 1st gear.

Watching this over and over strongly leads me to believe that suspension was poor and car shouldn't have gotten that unsettled when steering was dominantly straight, plus the course has that bad section of track which was the cause of car getting sent off. The tires looked like they could have held better as well if they were the right comp.

What happened exactly? I don't think it was a driving failure, I think it was a problem with a rear tire, wasn't it? PS: by the way the title said all: he is a student driver and I believe, every big name in race cars had just start little. A accident isn't something why he should feel ashamed.

Man that looks tough to drive! Respect to the driver, would like to hear how they’re getting on 9 years on from this!

Man, a better car would’ve just pass thru that rough patch. The driver did nothing wrong in my eyes.

It looked like right before the crash the front wheel hit a rough spot by the side of the road. Then directly after the car spun.

The car was squirally while braking, implying the brake bias was too far back, and then multiple times the car lost the rear when going over bumps (most notably where it caused the crash). Since the car doesn't have much downforce, you need a softer suspension at the rear.

The mistake was at down shifting in that section :( alas

After seeing the shifting coming out of the pits at the start of the video, I knew exactly how the video would end. 😅 Great video, we can all learn a lot from this. SLY is a tough (and, frankly, quite dangerous) track.

I could tell that bump was gonna get him in his first couple laps, especially after her started picking up speed

Bro, he's really driving a chassis with an engine and four wheels 💀

One day I will drift there in real life, amazing track :) Yamanashi

Yeah I mean it's quite a difficult thing to race even in video games so I can only imagine how hard it is in real life. Kudos to the dude for even making it as far as he did. Hopefully he gets better & better. Some people have to practice & train. Not everyone is a born Prodigy.

I actually know this place, it’s called Sportsland Yamanashi, a notoriously difficult drift/racing track. It may not look as hard but trying to set a time on here is like a death wish since there’s so many places to mess up on.

If you put it at x2 speed it looks awesome, especially that save near the beginning, I wonder what that person is doing now

This was recommended to me years and years ago, can’t believe I’ve come across it once more😂

Holy shit most comments are from 3 time competitive Forza Online Champions. Give the kid a break, the car looked horrendous to drive!

the track is so nice, so beautiful place, i'm gonna make one of this cars yeah !

Nice to see that HAAS is testing their new f1 2022 car

RU-vidr: post video 9 years ago Our recommended: student crash 9 years ago

Hey man, crashing just means exceeding your limits, now you know what happened and you can improve from it.

Ah, the good old lift oversteer...

That poor guy was trying to control a car that was dialed in with F1 worthy settings. You can see him oscillating back and forth, that's because the front tires have so much bite that there's no understeer from jerking the wheel to the extremes (which normal road cars have, and is an important "safety margin" to have for new drivers.) That thing needs thicker rear tires and less camber for newbies.

I just realized this is Sportsland Yamanashi. That's actually lit.

Because road bump made rear tires slipped. Sports Land Yamanashi had solved this problem. See this page. [h]ttp://ameblo.jp/jungletrip/image-11536355799-12549435452.html

One could tell from lap 1 exactly where he would crash. Oh well. Live to fight another day.

I love that this is in my recommended, and that I can only recognize the track from watching noriyaro

I love this type of stuff, all under control until instantly 1 mistake sends you spinning

I didn't know max verstappen had his own race track

Braked too hard and too fast when the steering wheel wasn't straight. Try braking with more progression, so by the time you are hitting the brakes hard your wheel is straight and the car more balanced. You will be able to care more momentum trought the apex.

We have a team at work (University of Surrey). Those cars have super short wheelbases and I can't imagine they handle all that well at all. Seems they don't!

Was this lift off over steer? Or under steer?

His line so bad

As someone with decades of experience in motor racing, I can confidently say that he put the vehicle in the wall by crashing the car. Next time, I highly recommend he simply does not crash.

I usually stay out of the morass of RU-vid viewer comments, but I'm up late and amazed by the commentary. Loads of people yapping with no idea of what they're talking about outweighing a few here and there who do. First, these are cars with an extremely short wheelbase. That means unstable. Look up "polar moment of inertia". Next, the steering ratio is very quick, making it more twitchy and difficult. Add stiff suspension, then add really bumpy track. It's obvious the driver is not very experienced, and this is a learning run. They are probably a bit overwhelmed. It doesn't look like they ever get close to what would be a quick lap for the car's potential, as far as I can tell, not driving the thing (so what do I know, there, right?... but you can sort of tell if you know what you're seeing). Not smooth at all, but, then, see the above. "Smooth" in this car would be a big challenge. BIG challenge. And put it in context- it's a student, the people in this are not on the road to F1. This is somebody trying to just get to terms with the car at even a moderate kind of pace. One person in particular nailed it most simply and succinctly (Matt Murphy), he lost the rear braking and turning. It's a really tough spot- it's a slight left, right around where the braking point would probably be, with the weight transfer off the rears as you lift and get on the brakes. Recipe for, in this case, the rear wheels losing grip and the rear heading to the right and rotating the car left when you need to be turning in for the right-hander. Oops. It''s gone. Wading through a lot of comments, I didn't see anybody noticing this: he's grabbing an UPSHIFT right about the same time as he downshifts on the previous lap, then apparently realizes his mistake, right as the rear end is taking off on him, AND, key point, to make it all worse, hitting the bump mentioned by the uploader of the video, which, very clearly, was the biggest problem, severely upsetting the car and unloading the rear tires at the worst possible moment. He then downshifts, as the car is actually already spinning, adding to the picture I get of the driver simply having multiple tricky items all coming together at the same time and, well, we're into simple mental overload at a time when catching it and saving the car would have been pretty impressive, if he had. He didn't. oops... skitter skitter... thump Add it all up; short wheelbase twitchy, who knows what the chassis setup might have been, especially front toe, a tricky left-right combination making it really difficult to actually brake in a straight line entering the corner, an obviously inexperienced driver with no sign of great skill in this kind of driving, and when he hits a bump in a blur of a really tricky combination of factors, around it goes.

Are you alright?

Haas: finally, a worthy opponent. Out battle will be legendary🙌

Look mom, Forza "pro" drivers want to say to us that they have skills. They can't even drive a kart IRL and dare to talk :') If he's a Formula student, it means he have more skills than you :')

The algorithm has blessed you

Wow, was the car damaged? I have a similar video on my channel, where the car lost traction and crashed into the pit wall at Silverstone

You can see how unstable formula cars are without downforce from wings.

2:14 thank me later

That downshift at the wrong moment will get you every time.

You clear that white wall on the right hand bend and you're well and truly airborne.

hahahaha such bad driving skills. I knew in the lap before that you will crash the car according to wrong bracking :D

I saw that you're close to 1000 subs and monetization so I subscribed.

Wish my schooæ devoted some of its lecture time to formula student. You learn very valuable engineering experience from this!

I could see this coming before it started. The guy doesn't make it around 3 corners without keeping in mind he's on cold tires.

those paddle shifters are like 2 blocks away from the steering wheel and fixed in position x.x If you look closely it might have even be part of the cause for the mistake, he was trying to shift and while doing so turn slightly to the left

At 0:55 he had his first moment and you could see the outcome starting there. The issue was not setup, it was a driver basically 'jumping' in and out of throttle rather than gradually modulating it. That action of loading and unloading/upset the car's balance. Incident #1.... The incorrect line he took leading up to the entry of the right-hander. The apex to the left was a sacrificial one that should have been skipped. The car should have been positioned to the extreme right after the downhill left-hander. The correct line on the right would have seen him give up that apex. He panic-braked after taking a bit more curb than intended from said apex while also trying to jink left to open up the entry to the right-hander. You can hear it also as he jumps in and out of the throttle before the car tries to swap ends.

2013-2021: “My tyres are gone” 2022: “My Horsepower is gone”

He was steering a bit to the left while braking and there was a small bump on the track which made the real wheels block, or at least way to slow which made it basically unsaveable. Also the shift pedals were waaay to far away. You have do be a basketball player to reach those...

That took an unexpected turn

I've seen many of this kind of crashes and I'm still not sure why this happens.. Is it because he breaks hard and sudendly the car bumps, and then the wheels get locked because of that and he ends up loosing control?

Apparently everyone here points out flaws in the kart, says they can build a better one, can drive better and wouldn't crash here. I've seen one of these Karts/cars in person I can say that the amount of sheer work, determination and CAD (Computer Assisted Design) that goes into these, built by students with little interference with teachers is more than what I or anyone could accomplish. sure he crashed here, but success without failure is impossible.

Is it a downshift without bliping the throttle locking the rear wheels?

Saw start of the video, recognized the circuit and was like "yeah this title makes sense"

It looks like the car hopped a bit over those bumps and you let off the throttle which shifted the weight forward and upset the rear end of the car.

My god. Can’t wait to get involved in my universities SAE team. Can’t wait to learn and help design a car like this.

I wasn’t even driving and I felt the car was built with kindergarten glue

I love watching these videos!!

Glad he’s okay keep racing buddy tactics makes perfect

That first flying lap was great, car seems a bit tricky on the brakes, drivability is a big part of fs, I’d imagine that’s just a bad brake bias. Great environment to learn in tho!

Which uni?

I was the driver for my team back in 2009. I can confirm that these cars are not easy to drive. Can’t really fault the driver too much.

Oversteer snap 😵 I remember once I did something similar. Applied brakes on a motorcycle to go slow through a patch of road that had some loose gravel on it. And the motorcycle decided to throw the rear sideways. I was quick on response to not fall over. My experience of falling hundreds of times from bike might have contributed to the reflexes 🤣. But it's always fun to race in such raw formats.

Very bumpy, light car and learning. Lots of mistakes to learn from and become stronger as a result. Don't be afraid of failure, it is a teacher and will help you learn more than constant success. Embrace trying and the failures, but learn from them.

Damn that suspension and the balance of that car look borderline undriveable.

Too much brake mid corner before the car was settled, he did the same thing the previous lap and almost lost it then. All part of learning the car, good to see it was a minor crash. 11 years later this guy might be a professional racer by now lol.

Reminds me of the onboard laps of the Minardi F1 cars back in the day where the car is just one moment to snap on you

Probably a known spot, notice the tire marks curving to the right side, he kept the left side of the track.

That car goes light just before impact. And why are the paddles so far from the steering wheel