FPGA TurboGrafx 16 - PC Engine - SuperGrafx 15 Games Tested MisTer DE 10-Nano 

Check for FPGA music players made by kevtris, he is a god.

Except Atari ST :P

ViolentDetour this is not what you’re looking for then. This fpga hardware emulation stuff is where software emulation was 8-10 years ago; just getting good. For now, you want a decent pc with discrete graphics.

Yeah, it really would be nice to be able to get something that actually does what a lot of people were led to think the SNES & NES minis do.

Why not taking it anyway so you can enjoy some other platform in the meanwhile? There are so many cool games that weren't available on the snes or have better versions on Genesis/md or pce

it seems like the snes is unlikely to work because of all the extra chips that some games needed to run on the cartridge instead of inside the console.

@@BrickTamlandOfficial remember there is still the option of an hybrid system, with the fpga+sw emulation on the arm soc, as well the possibility of an additional module with another fpga on it

There are already NES and SNES fpga based systems on the market. Check out the Super NT and NT mini by Analogue. www.analogue.co/super-nt/

same as free apps . fpga is a scam

@@abh6968 how is it a scam ?

@@RetroTuna free or $500 for same apps

@@abh6968 that’s not really a scam as you want to play retro games on any device you have to buy that device, I can play the games on my pc so is that a scam costing me £1800 or I can play them on my Ps classic at £80 is that scam and I am not including the screen your using, I f I could play retro games on thin air at No cost to me what so every and that and video displays were free you might have a point, but that’s not the case you pay for what you get pc’s, rasberry pi’s, mini consoles all run fantastic emulation and that is not going away, but mister is different fpga hardware emulation is very good and in most cases better than software emulation but fpga is playing catch up with emulation but what it has to offer is worth jumping into and things have moved on a fair bit since this video.

@@RetroTuna free apps play better than $500 mrs scam lol

how do you find the amiga core, do you think it would be possible to completely replace my amiga ? any glitches ?

For the original Mist it seems really solid, I've not used many Apps but I've not had any games I couldn't play. Perhaps the Mister might allow (or do) for 68030 emulation which would be neat. I have an A1200 and not used it in a while due to the Mist

Not sure how many devs would want to code their game in verilog 🤔

Tbh I think it would be even cooler if someone design a retro style new hw on this machines so that people can develop new games on a new retro platform. We already have this in software with fantasy consoles (Pico8 is the more popular at the moment) I don't see why an hw solution wouldn't work.

@@MasterControl90original The ability to mix in expansions would be pretty cool. Like an Amiga core with a Picasso IV graphics card or a wave table for better music. A second FPGA would also be pretty good. I'm just thinking about the first core as the CPU and core components and the second as a GPU in effect which would be great for emulating earlier PC's such as Windows 98 systems.

@@MasterControl90original kind of what the intellivision amico is trying to do with their 2d only engine. We shall see (but I have high hopes!)

​@@ReikazeRambles The games themselves wouldn't have to be coded in verilog, of course, just the core. If this hipotethical mister core was implemented, it would include a cpu module within it to process instructions from the game rom just like the PC Engine or MegaDrive cores do right now. It's clear you could code the programs in C, like you could code a gba homebrew game these days. The key would be to design a simple architecture that is flexible and powerful. I dunno, maybe an arm core with a VDP-like display processor with added snes-like bg rotation and a nice 6 or 8-channel chiptune engine would fit.

DaVidKid1877 , your missing the whole point of this device and why enthusiasm are so hype about it. You are right, software emulation is more than enough for the majority, but FPGA can do what software emulation can’t. With FPGA, you simulate/replicate the hardware at logic and signal level, so you can interface with the hardware like the real thing that includes being able to read original carts, controllers and analog RGB out with addons boards to the DE10. All of that with the exact timing of the original hardware (giving how good the core is program).

@@BigMacIIx so basically fpga is a programmable chip that emulates the original chip in whatever device you choose? For example the fpga chip could be programmed to act as a super fx SNES chip? Am I understanding this or am I way off lol. I just don't want to spend the money because I have no knowledge of PC building or what is compatible with what and all that. I can barely figure out how it to get games set up on game station turbo lol but raspberry pi and odroid I'm pretty good.

@@DaVidKid1877 Your basic understanding is right, look at FPGA like a bunch of logic units you can interconnect the way you want via software, at the end you're not emulating software but simulating the hardware. With FPGA you can have a modular approche so you can replicate multiple chips and a whole system components on one FPGA, so you can have a whole SNES and extra chip like the SuperFX simulated on the same FPGA if it contain enough logic units to do so. Right now there is some mass market retrogaming FPGA solution like the Analogue NT, those are easy to use but pricy, the project MisTer and the DE10-Nano board at its current state are really for enthusiast. Also FPGA emulation is currently limited to 8bits and 16 bits era hardware, so forget about more powerful hardware like the PS1 or the Dreamcast.

​@@BigMacIIx There are parts of a PS1 core scattered throughout github (I know of someone who is working on assembling them), so PS1 would definitely be possible (past projects only failed due to issues with getting the thing to boot with the Sony BIOS). Also, it is very likely that a PS1 core could fit in the DE10-Nano, but I doubt that anything more complicated would (so probably no Dreamcast, and no N64). @DaVidKid1877 That's basically right from your view of the MisTer menu (the thing where you select which core to run). In reality, the FPGA is more configured than programmed, which can be thought of as telling the device which switches to open and close so that the transistors in the FPGA connect in effectively the same way as in the original hardware (in reality it does this through a series of binary look up tables and switches). So from that perspective, it can basically be configured to act like any integrated circuit / chip / groups of chips as long as they fit within the device (it has a large number of switches, just not an unlimited amount - The FPGA on the DE10-Nano probably has enough to configure something as complex as the PS1). As Étienne Gauthier said, you could basically take every chip that was in the SNES, as well as any chip that was within the game cartridges, and connect them together within the single FPGA, and have it produce identical behavior to the original hardware (the Analogue NT did this minus the cartridge chips). Hopefully that extra info wasn't confusing. If you are concerned with the complexity of setting up MisTer, there are several videos on youtube with people going through the setup process which you can look at before making a decision to buy an expensive board (they are all under 30 minutes long, so that should give some context in how difficult it is).

don't think Killer Instinct is done

It’s available now. This is the De10 nano running the MisTer project. Easy set up and as you can see it work like a dream.

what do you find bad about the pi, I always think the pi play fine but have never played a real pc engine to compare.

@@osscar29 it's about framerate, ie. psone on the pie has to be overclocked to run fluid. pc engine runs pretty good true, but this is next level in the frame rate departement. And I ain't very good in usually spotting that

@@ETAPRIME true, thank you. also keep up the good work with your videos mate, watch every single one :)

@Tom Landolt I’ve never try the Pi emulation, but FPGA is in a completely different league than software emulation. FPGAs simulate the hardware at logic/signal level, therefore it can achieve true to the original hardware response and generally don’t have issue that come with timing, like audio and controller latency, video and audio drops and glitch’s. Giving a good enough programmer, and FPGA is only limited by its numbers of programmable units. Misters have a full 486 PC core, and many more arcade cores, but I doubt the DE10 have a big enough fpga for 3D hardware like the Saturn or the PS1.

ok, didn't know the snes core wasn't released yet. but from what I have seen so far, this is better than some of these consoles with those upconverters.

It has a built in scaler / line doubler for HDMI output

So it has: Digital HDMI 480p output ( Which is superior to its original RF and Composite 240p output )

Scaling options are programable, I run mine at 1080p using nearest neighbour scaling and it's razor sharp on the panel.

this is not a sbc, so no mame on this.

No CD yet. Hopefully it’s coming soon.

Not yet

Same question

Winston Smith the mister project currently support over a hundred cores, but FPGA can by reprogrammed to simulate any hardware as long there are big enough to fit all the logic in it. The DE10 board support up to a full 486 pc core, but I doubt it is big enough to fit an PS1 or higher hardware.

Yes, but there is a limit to how many times an FPGA can be reprogrammed with a different core and that number appears to be surprisingly limited.

Winston Smith FPGA it’s not like Flash, more like GPU, it get reprogrammed on field every time it powers up. A lot of high end video and signal processing card are using FPGA, I never heard FPGA having limited life.

​@@winstonsmith478 The FPGA used by the DE10 board can be reprogrammed effectively an infinite number of times, since the configuration (program) is stored in internal Read Only SRAM (it's cleared when the device is powered off), which is written by the companion processor (running the MisTer Interface). It would be more accurate to say that the devices are configured when they start up as opposed to programmed (basically a really long binary stream which tells the device which switches to open and close). Étienne Gauthier Some low-end FPGAs are flash based, like the Altera / Intel MAX 10 FPGA. Those have a maximum number of write cycles of around 10k, and lack the serial programming interface that more expensive FPGAs like the Cyclone series have.

Depends on the core, but yes it's possible.

I know this is an old comment, but If you want to play SuperGrafx games and want rgb and a rom cart to go along with it like an SSDS3 or A Turbo Everdrive and an AV Engine Block. This is a lot cheaper then real hardware. Not to mention if you want to collect for PC Engine or TurboGrafx the games are expensive now even though the PC Engine side is cheaper its still a bit expensive to get certain games. You also have access to a lot of arcade games, other consoles, and some old computers at a hardware accurate level with this as well.

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FPGAs are really different than regular processors, this tech won't go mainstream anytime soon. Doesn't have much practical benifit over regular processors for most consumers anyways, great for retro because we can perfectly emulate hw with it but not very useful for other tasks.