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Learn more about FatShark here: www.fatshark.com
iBcrazy stops by and shares the results of his Long Range System (LRS) shootout!
More details about this episode here:
flitetest.com/articles/fpv-lon...
Learn more about FPV Frequencies:
flitetest.com/articles/fpv-fre...
How we capture Air to air video:
flitetest.com/articles/air-to-...
Special thanks to Jeremiah (of Stone Blue Airlines) for helping us in the studio on this episode!!
Thanks for watching!

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@CaliforniaTravelVideos
@CaliforniaTravelVideos 10 лет назад
Many thanks for the provocative series of tests. And despite any shortcomings, we should compliment FliteTest and Alex for stepping forward and giving it their best shot within real world time constraints. As a microwave technician, I appreciate all the complexities planning and conducting tests like these with limited resources. The fact that you encourage dialog on RU-vid and your website is a testimonial that you encourage open communications. Kudos gentlemen and keep 'em coming!
@helifanensenada5183
@helifanensenada5183 9 лет назад
Finally! A constructive comment... I remembered an old Asian proverb The fool shouts. The intelligence gives his opinion. But the wise man will keep quiet. Yours was a concrete, well meant and wise comment. Congratulations
@ynical
@ynical 11 лет назад
That was a lot of work! Thanks ibcrazy and FT for the show.
@808GT
@808GT 11 лет назад
YOU GUYS JUST ROCK! We need muuuch more videos like this one to clear up the FPV options out there! Thank you!
@techenstein
@techenstein 11 лет назад
Great review! Thank you for not dumbing this down and keeping all the technical goodies in the edit.
@MrGrazer05
@MrGrazer05 11 лет назад
One of your BEST guests and certainly an excellent topic to cover. Makes me feel good about all my EZ UHF gear. I have always used the diversity Rx but feel confident to try a Lite one next time.
@robbyota5598
@robbyota5598 8 лет назад
could you setup towers in a feld and use them as repeater? for example setting up your base station in one corner then sending three towers out in each corner or the field you would be flying in or covering? or if your license to set it up on a different frequency or some sort of point to point with tracking?
@NielsHvid
@NielsHvid 11 лет назад
Amazing to see the enthusiasm Alex shows when he is explaining what he did etc. great episode guys!
@ryandavidsheasby4028
@ryandavidsheasby4028 9 лет назад
lol at 12:44 it looks like the guest suddenly had david's voice.
@koumou57
@koumou57 11 лет назад
Very nicely done. It's nice seeing how enthusiastic Alex is about what he is doing. It would be nice to see a comparison between popular OSD systems. Thank you guys.
@dizzyjw
@dizzyjw 11 лет назад
I love how passionate IBcrazy is about the hobby... Gets me pumped!
@RichardDosSantosDrones
@RichardDosSantosDrones 11 лет назад
Great video, I've been waiting for someone to do a test like this for ages. Thank you!
@MilestoneVids
@MilestoneVids 11 лет назад
Awesome guys you killed it with this one! good job! Answered SO MANY of my questions!
@SteveOConnor
@SteveOConnor 10 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for taking to time to review and inform everyone.
@jacqueslebo1807
@jacqueslebo1807 8 лет назад
I would like to add, while taking your antennae off of your receiver makes a good test, never take the antennae off of a transmitter and try to broadcast. It can potentially cause permanent damage to the transmitter.
@prestonpeck7715
@prestonpeck7715 8 лет назад
No it will cause permanent damage
@boogiman007
@boogiman007 11 лет назад
love the production value on this. keep it up guys.
@lordofbasement
@lordofbasement 11 лет назад
the most interresting fpv video i have seen in the last time. Thank you alex, i like your knowledge and your enthusiasm. thx chad, josh, josh, the swedish guy and the others that helps flitetest going!
@T3andChris
@T3andChris 11 лет назад
Really cool having IBCrazy drop in!!! Show us a full LR setup please.
@donsscooters
@donsscooters 8 лет назад
Great video! I've been watching it for years,,,, In fact, Its been over two years and the OpenLRS shown in the video has not been available for almost that long. Hawkeye systems are not easy to find either making me skeptical of using one. People that have used them said they had to remove the system fairly often to update software and did not like that aspect. I wonder if things have settled down over time? I'm really interested in using OenLRS but quick update would be helpful.
@mike_oe
@mike_oe 11 лет назад
Josh, Alex, and David: Thank you for an interesting, useful, and entertaining shootout! Much appreciated.
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 11 лет назад
Wasn't expecting this video, great job guys, flitetest and ibc = great info!
@justy256
@justy256 10 лет назад
Great video - and the fun is contagious!
@cenabitednbfpv587
@cenabitednbfpv587 8 лет назад
Another GREAT VID.. @Alex ty, yet again you have helped me soo much with your videos. (u 2 flight test) You might not know it but UBINSOERATIONAL homie lol. and sometimes make a guy with very little moneys, feel like a king. And Saving some of us from wasting money... (I thought dragon link was the "only" way to go) sooooo thankful for not only the test but what you reiterate about how little power we actually need to fly... compared to what's on the market, most of us thought 600 megawatts was needed to fly ur mini at first... yes noobs like me, but Ive still see a lot of people thinking the same way I was, until educated... I know now that even my 200mw transmitters are MORE than enough for my fpv mini quad purposes as I very rarely go more than a quarter mile away with a mini at least... But im pulling off my 600 vtx from the 450 because it's simply overpowered. Running a pixhawk I can't have any interference. Shared and shared again... Also very appreciated once again! Ty Alex, Joe + flight test crew. Please keep um coming! And please print shirts that say. "everything I need to know, I learned from flight test!" I need a XL! 😆
@bcdvideo
@bcdvideo 11 лет назад
Awesome to see the three of you guys in a cool video!
@helifanensenada5183
@helifanensenada5183 9 лет назад
Flite Test & IBeCrazy... How much cooler can it get?
@GranVlog
@GranVlog 9 лет назад
Heli Fan Ensenada if they open the windows when its winter.
@QuadReaktor
@QuadReaktor 5 лет назад
@@GranVlog good old times :)
@philstuf
@philstuf 8 лет назад
PLEASE bring iBcrazy back more often. His RF kung-fu is strong (I am saying this as someone pretty savvy with RF for ~ 20 years), and I appreciate the diversity (no pun intended) that he brings to the content. In fewer than 25 minutes, he has answered so many questions I had regarding RC & FPV given the myriad of options on the market.
@Aviationrcfpv
@Aviationrcfpv 11 лет назад
great vid guys cool to see ib crazy on here your show has really become a place for all parts of this hobby to share there knowledge thanks guys for the great entertainment
@squartochi
@squartochi 11 лет назад
This is the best video yet. Let me just say you are the RU-vid channel I watch most, besides Davids and RCmodeler reviews. You prove to be the best of RU-vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and should be pumped into MY COMCAST!
@acicuecalo
@acicuecalo 11 лет назад
This is a very good episode, iBcrazy and Flite Test together!!!!
@emgee44
@emgee44 11 лет назад
Alex is so passionate about what he does he's crazy, nice video guys and very informative
@AeroStuffFPV
@AeroStuffFPV 5 лет назад
*Help me out!* So i'm new to FPV Plane flying for long range and I did lots of research to completely know what I need for a good and safe flight (over 2km) what I need is: 1. Video Camera (connects to VTX) 2. VTX and Antenna (Omni/Leaf) (200mw 2,4Ghz) 3. Video Receiver (Connects to Goggles/Screen) 4. UHF (433mHz) Transmitter (Binds with TX Trainer Port) 5. UHF Receiver. (Servo plugs) 6. OSD Is this correct and do I need anything else for a good and safe flight for over 2km?
@VPXM2012
@VPXM2012 10 лет назад
Thanks guys, this video disintegrated a lot of my tension! Keep it flying!
@aaroncunningham9902
@aaroncunningham9902 9 лет назад
I love the way he is so expressive with his voice and hand jestures. Awesome
@hardcorn
@hardcorn 11 лет назад
Great episode guys... love Flitetest and IBcrazy
@thatkidd787
@thatkidd787 8 лет назад
hey guys great videos, always very helpful reviews and tips and tricks; for these long flights on a 250 quad, what battery do you suggest; like how big should i go: battery size? thanks in advance.
@bedheadboy
@bedheadboy 10 лет назад
You were saying something about "return to home" settings for quad copters. Does that literally mean that it starts flying back where it came from when it loses signal? I am just starting to learn about RC flight and I can not wait to get started. Now just to find the funding.
@wiillwill7676
@wiillwill7676 10 лет назад
ahaha, yeah it does get expensive. maybe you want to get a simulator first. trust me, you're going to crash...a lot. don't make my mistake.
@bedheadboy
@bedheadboy 10 лет назад
Thank you I will definitely look into that first.
@CaliforniaTravelVideos
@CaliforniaTravelVideos 10 лет назад
Great point - even though we may be fairly proficient with our copters, having a good simulator like AeroSim-RC is great to practice your skill without fear of an expensive mistake. And the Training and Game modes will really stress your skills.
@ehandford
@ehandford 11 лет назад
this is exactly what i dreamt flitetest would make a video about, it has everything, Ibcrazy , dragonlink, uhf stuff and info !!!
@bandittaz1
@bandittaz1 11 лет назад
The most explanatory episode ever thanks guys
@drcuffe
@drcuffe 11 лет назад
Hope there's more footage with Alex, would love to see you guys just flying with him and enjoying yourselves
@K5_BlaZer
@K5_BlaZer 11 лет назад
Great show guys. This just affirms how much I need to learn still. [goes to forum to look now]
@ehandford
@ehandford 11 лет назад
great info, was hoping flitetest would do an episode in UHF stuff , ty ibcrazy
@DobyxRC
@DobyxRC 11 лет назад
Great job guy's, and it was nice to see Alex (IBCrazy) on the show.
@antecboy
@antecboy 11 лет назад
That LRS helmet is so rad with all the RC gear :D
@simpsonjer
@simpsonjer 11 лет назад
Great show and clip at the end!
@colemanbragg9354
@colemanbragg9354 7 лет назад
@FliteTest could you all do a new LRS with the new updated systems or with the latest update in the same systems tested?
@RStephenLegge
@RStephenLegge 11 лет назад
There is more accumulated knowledge and information from this site than any other. Keep it up guys.
@michaelprospective
@michaelprospective 10 лет назад
I'm not sure if using attenuators would be an accurate measurement of distance because the attenuators are lowering the note the noise floor along with the signal so I'll sensitive receiver would still be able to read a clean signal whereas that same receiver may not be able to read a faint signal through a high noise floor
@inciteman
@inciteman 11 лет назад
Thanks for the information! One question, can't you damage your transmitter by taking off the antenna while its on?
@FPV4Fun
@FPV4Fun 9 лет назад
What kind of filter to use on Orange Open LRS 100mW/1W transmitter to avoid interference and cut of the 1.2 GHz video, please?
@gilgsn
@gilgsn 10 лет назад
You guys should learn about SWR and how it can fry your transmitter if you use it without an antenna for too long. Also look into RF exposure before putting transmitters on your head...
@katanamd
@katanamd 10 лет назад
They took the antenna off the receiver.
@d.hansel854
@d.hansel854 10 лет назад
Ham Radio operators that use these high frequencies know how dangerous these high frequencies are. This is why cell phones us so little power. You can cook brain cells quickly. Also SWR is important. These frequencies antennas as very short. You won't gain anything by adding things to an antenna. Since you are flying the antenna should be on the bottom. Your radiation pattern will be extended.
@CaliforniaTravelVideos
@CaliforniaTravelVideos 10 лет назад
I'm with y'all. Having been a microwave technician including high power amplifiers (Klystrons and Magnetrons) at a satellite earth station with 60dB gain 30 meter dishes, we learned not to joke around with microwave radiation. Even though the test was short, I'm not fond of having 1-2 watts of 1GHz energy being directed to my head/eyes at a free space distance of 1 foot! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#Microwaves Heck, even the idea of having a low-power local heterodyne oscillator in face-mounted googles might lead to premature cataracts over prolonged usage (especially if they were not properly engineered or maintained with radiation leakage). With even the slighted doubt, we should at least have an affordable RF power meter...
@livinabox925
@livinabox925 10 лет назад
D. Hansel yep my father was a ham....learned a lot from him
@ilovefpv
@ilovefpv 11 лет назад
One of your best episodes...
@topgunm
@topgunm 11 лет назад
Great episode. Can you guys do a similar one: test the different types of antennas? A video about the different video systems and video antennas would be epic.
@Blake-id6yd
@Blake-id6yd 8 лет назад
the guy was so happy and energetic, and Davids just like wow....that's pretty cool......
@WiperTF2
@WiperTF2 10 лет назад
Wow, that Alex guy is super awesome. So enthusiastic and helpful!
@huddscudd
@huddscudd 10 лет назад
FPV super stars! awesome vid guys!
@robbo580
@robbo580 7 лет назад
is it possible to view footage from a dslr thru the dragonlink while youre recording or do you need a seperate camera?
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS 11 лет назад
We would love to see more videos about fpv systems from Alex, and a long range flight done by the flight test crew!
@ezragrothe
@ezragrothe 11 лет назад
Wow, this is a great video! Lots of good information.
@bluegreenwalrus
@bluegreenwalrus 11 лет назад
this episode was helpful but i was wondering if you guys could do more of a tutorial. keep up the good work!
@themainproblem
@themainproblem 11 лет назад
ATV repeaters are actually transmit/receivers operated by ham radio operators. It's amateur television transmitted between individuals. They operate in a variety of frequencies and a bands. Popular wavelengths are 70cm and 23 cm and sometimes shorter. The gentleman in the middle sounds like he was in fact a ham radio op, and probably a very skilled one.
@BashMonkeyRC
@BashMonkeyRC 10 лет назад
So if I have an 800mW 1.3 system and I don't want to overpower an OpenLRS, would an attenuator help? If so what dB is optimal?
@XrayMike
@XrayMike 11 лет назад
Definitely a lot of information (having watched original video already, it's a nice summary)
@terrypercy
@terrypercy 9 лет назад
how do you increase the range of your controller? Or will it perform at these distances regardless(quadcopter) I have a gemini, I want to know if I can upgrade these parts, and start some long range FPV/some more penetration. Or if I broadcasted controls on 2.4, and video on 1.3. Would I get 1-2km's? Not looking for much, I just want to know the potential of the system. Know what I mean?
@theRCexperiment
@theRCexperiment 11 лет назад
Great video, quick question.... but if we run video at 5.8ghz then the issues that dragonlink had wouldn't be a problem right?
@SoothingSound
@SoothingSound 11 лет назад
Wow that dude is fired up. I have no idea what you're talking about there but it's still entertaining for some weird reason.
@tyler5673
@tyler5673 11 лет назад
Loved it, extremely helpful. Thanks guys!
@h8mail1
@h8mail1 9 лет назад
Excellent! Plz build on that type of info. The only thing that's keeping me from pulling the trigger is the fear of buying the wrong stuff!
@BMSWEB
@BMSWEB 11 лет назад
Nice one Guys . . worth the wait :)
@WyllSurfAir
@WyllSurfAir 11 лет назад
It would be so cool if you and alex did an episode about the specter, I'm sure every one would love it.
@craighallett952
@craighallett952 11 лет назад
Awesome, just what i needed. Thank You !
@Skydive4ever
@Skydive4ever 11 лет назад
Awesome tests, great to Ssee Alex on here :-)
@Soldier53flyer
@Soldier53flyer 11 лет назад
You guys helped a lot thank you!
@goatboythc
@goatboythc 11 лет назад
Can you have a unit flying a certain distance away from you act as a relay for a plane flying really far away from you...acting as a bridge almost? How far could you get?
@Rchacker
@Rchacker 11 лет назад
Awesome. What firmware were you running on the OpenLRS? I have been mucking about with OpenLRSng. Big difference from the standard firmware. Love it.
@renceww18
@renceww18 11 лет назад
i have a question, if you fly most of the time be twine 0.5 and 1 mile do you need a UHF transmitter can't you just use your spectrum/JR/futaba....transmitter wit full range RX?
@spencerboaz2385
@spencerboaz2385 7 лет назад
Thanks for the test . That answered a lot of questions for me . Saving money is good but if you save $100 on radio/video and loose your plane what have you saved ?
@billster7100
@billster7100 9 лет назад
Can someone help? I'm really confused. I thought UHF only transmitted signals for your aircraft's receiver. In this video is it transmitting only video or is it transmitting video and aircraft controls? If I want to do fpv do I only need a UHF and not a separate video transmitter/receiver?
@BrettCWX
@BrettCWX 9 лет назад
billster7100 Well, you can do video or controls on many different frequencies. For instance, you can send controls through 433Mhz and then your video through 2.4GHz. Here's a nice little page for you: www.fpvforme.com/fpv-video-frequency/
@rotorhead1624
@rotorhead1624 11 лет назад
Awesome guys! Very helpful.Keep up the good work :)
@sandnessmj
@sandnessmj 11 лет назад
What happened to the FT3D speed build kit and all the updates that were supposedly made to it??? Been waiting patiently for this to come out!
@oyvinator
@oyvinator 11 лет назад
Do the lrs systems have the same general connections to the remotes? (Plus, ground, and signal)
@MADelectriCITY
@MADelectriCITY 11 лет назад
So if staying close by is most fun would a DX7s work fine for most FPV flying? I guess I have taken some planes out pretty far LOS with it but still not sure of the actual range of it.
@ImYourGuiltyPleasure
@ImYourGuiltyPleasure 11 лет назад
EXCELLENT comparison! Great idea to bring Alex on for this one! Is it safe to assume that 5.8 video is a non-issue with ALL these LRS systems then, as it seems the focus here was interference with 1.2 video...?
@EAteearsehole
@EAteearsehole 9 лет назад
Alex just made the 50 shades of LRS. Beating and punishing these systems. So enthusiastic about it too!
@rcjoseb
@rcjoseb 11 лет назад
Great episode.
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 11 лет назад
I had the Fatshark predator goggles and just started to use my Sony HMZ-T1 3D viewer goggles for FPV. Amazing !!
@gabe3366
@gabe3366 9 лет назад
Are all of these products shown only for control signal, or do they also have video?
@ricardopr54
@ricardopr54 9 лет назад
Control signal only
@oooGreeooo
@oooGreeooo 11 лет назад
Agree with the comment about using a very old Scherrer LRS. also power settings were not discussed. Many transmitters have the ability to boost signal by upping the power. Having said that a great video and IBCrazy is a great personality and contributor to the FOV world.
@Chazz155511
@Chazz155511 11 лет назад
You guys are the best! You guys now have more subscribers than rcpowers congrats!
@wolfpackt99
@wolfpackt99 11 лет назад
what are the LCD screens are shown on the tripods during the tests. Looking to get one.
@mlilasic
@mlilasic 9 лет назад
Is this 1000mW or 100mW version of Flytron Open LRS transmitter?
@Lucidreamo
@Lucidreamo 11 лет назад
Great video and thanks to IP crazy for those tests, this is great work and very easy to understand for someone like me that know very little, this is great work!. The only thing i wish you guys talked about is the penetration aspect of those system. It seam like a lot of people will choose uhf for the penetration it have through other objects (compare to other that don't have much penetration) like trees or wall, am i right?
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 8 лет назад
I'm confused with them using a servo for testing. Were they also testing control signals and not just FPV video signal?
@KendallSmithFPV
@KendallSmithFPV 8 лет назад
They are using the servo to check the fidelity of the control signals at long distance. If you are losing "packets" of information, then the servo will be jerky instead of moving smoothly. Cheap and simple test!
@jbx907
@jbx907 9 лет назад
love your system, its all about knowledge on how rf are affected with harmonics, de-sensed, and how to propagate the signals.As long as you know placement of transceivers including chosen of bands, you get much of the range out of your system. Well. best systems will have a good front end filter to fight de-sensing - (reduction in sensitivity in the front end through high RF bombardment) and good filters on transmitters for clean Emitted RF. even though you have all these, if you don't handle RF propagation well, you will not maximize the range.
@drumermp
@drumermp 11 лет назад
Love your guest flitetest! Who is the NYC flying guy?
@windride
@windride 11 лет назад
Can you guys used ez uhf set up and go as far and back????
@Hoverbot1TV
@Hoverbot1TV 11 лет назад
Great review! My Chainlink is what Rangelink evolved from and when I added Alex's turnstile my range doubled or tripled over stock uhf dipole. 5*
@jonnyasprin
@jonnyasprin 11 лет назад
Could an older television set with the UHF channels some how tune into a FPV transmission?
@doallkgfun8727
@doallkgfun8727 7 лет назад
Hello I have been looking in to rc booster and I and not find a booster that boost the signal from 1 booster to anuther booster and then to the rc car do thay do then or am I not looking for the right thing
@DrTeddyMMM
@DrTeddyMMM 9 лет назад
How much effect does cell towers have on quad radios and FPV systems? (sorry if this has been asked before) ...If there is a source of info please provide the link. Thank you so much.
@DrTeddyMMM
@DrTeddyMMM 9 лет назад
MrTeddyMMM Anyone have any info as to what I requested?.....
@hdmovie100
@hdmovie100 8 лет назад
How can u not trust ppl who doing their job with the passion ! TBS I admire U! Great video!
@matt7048
@matt7048 11 лет назад
Do these systems have "channels" or are they spread spectrum and no need for frequency flags if you are flying with other FPVrs?
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