France BANNED Short Haul Flights, But... 

This ban only prevents people from buying those short flights if it is their entire air travel. If you are buying it as a connection, you can still buy these short flights. Ex. New York->Paris->Lyon can be bought but Paris->Lyon only could not be bought.

A positive effect is the train company is encouraged to invest in infrastuctures to meet the 2.5 hour threshold everywhere it's possible (because when it's done there is no competition with airline companies anymore). So yes it's only 5 flight... for now !

I initially read the title as "Short Haul Fights", thinking that France had cracked down on bar brawling or something

Netherlands has very little commercial internal flights (if any), partially caused by the fact that Schiphol is right on top of the regular train network, the high speed line towards Rotterdam and Belgium, and has connections to basically every public transport in Amsterdam.

“everyones least favorite thing, France” -least british man.

Theres actaully a surprising amount of direct flights from Manchester to the United States

A good solution might be to connect airports directly to the high-speed train network

Another problem for the traveller is that by the time you have collected your luggage and gone through customs, the last train for the evening has already gone. You need to find a hotel room (and factor that into your carbon footprint) and continue to your destination the next day by train.

Paris airport actually has a high speed train station under it that can take you to any city in France so it's not bad at all

I live in a city in the Netherlands of about 10k people, there are trains direct to Schiphol every 30 minutes and even more if you take a connecting train from the nearest big cities (Rotterdam and Den Haag)

Charles de Gaulle has very good transportation links (right on the LGV network) with trains from Brussels to Marseille/Nice (busiest domestic flight corridor in France currently) stopping there. Short haul flight bans are perfect only if the included airports have great rail links by the terminal including frequent services from competing rail companies. I'm all for them but they're never done right as you can still fly the short French domestic distances if its a connecting flight.

In a few years, the new high speed train will open up, and it'll actually be faster to take the train than a plane in Japan. It's supposed to go from Tokyo to Osaka in about an hour. It'll just be between Tokyo and Nagoya at first though (perfect for me since I live in Nagoya though 😁).

Don’t know if I can trust a video about banning short flights if the video is sponsored by planes. I think there is a conflict of interest here lol.

Out of curiosity, I checked how long a train would take from my city (Gdansk) to Warsaw, the distance is similar to London-Manchester and.... it's over 4 hours and 30 minutes on a regular day, our train network isn't that good :/

Can't wait for the series of 3rd channel videos "riding an electric bike to manchester in the fewest stops"

This might backfire when lobbyists lobby to slow down trains in order to make these trips take longer... well, thats what would happen in the USA at least. 🙃

The good thing about these short-flight bans is the fact that it sets a precedent for future flights to be banned when the rail network is sufficiently expanded

Ban on all flights within Europe is ridiculous. Imagine having to take a train all the way from London to Yekaterinburg, Russia. Europe may seem small but, from one edge to the other, the travel time by train is still quite unreasonable, especially for regular travel.

in austria you can go directly from Vienna Intl. Airport to Vienna Main Railway Station, St. Pölten, Linz, Salzburg, Innsbruck and Bregenz (6/9 regional capitals) by high speed rail without changing trains. For the other 3 you just change in Vienna.

Just toycat ignoring the fact that all large first world airports have train stations built in, usually for city metro and regional rail lines, so short haul connecting flights (that will run 2-3 times a day) are pointless and a waste of their passengers' time when they could take a train that comes every 30 mins.

There is also the factor that for transport, the deivce has to be at the station, ie a plane to get on. So sometimes you get to move a unused plane from an airport to another one where needed. aka a short flight. So banning them would just be banning tickets for those flights... Also short flights for airports with better maintenance resources

That’s exactly what China has done 3 years ago …. Why has nobody reported on it ? But China has the most extensive high speed rail in the world and we don’t in Europe.

wait does this count for the euro airport near basel but located in france?

I can't figure out how to message you directly but here's an idea for a video... double landlocked countries. Which countries can't reach an ocean without going through two other countries? And are there any unifying characteristics? Boom! Solid channel content.

Congrats France

French trains are great.

The problem with the argument that "air travel is good competition for the railways" is that it hinges around the premise that the railways should be run for-profit rather than as a public service. The sheer infrastructure requirements for rail versus air should tell you all you need to know about which mode is going to make more money for private enterprises. Even on-rail competition between different train operators doesn't work, the best and only thing you can do to offer a good and useful service is to drive it with politics and democracy rather than free market competition. So if your high speed railway is state owned or subsidised (like SNCF), the last thing you want is all your peak time super-commuters on six figure salaries flying in to the office every day, when they could be putting a nice healthy first class ticket in to offset the cost of grandma going to the shops on a Saturday morning.

French People Everyday: Its 9am, time to protest.

the pronunciation of Nantes is killing me

The fact that everything he’s saying is wrong bc connecting short haul flights aren’t banned…

You can take a regular direct high speed train from Brussels Zaventem Airport and Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, also stopping in the city centre of Brussels and Amsterdam (and also Antwerp and Rotterdam). No issue at all for the consumer.

The infrastructure is there to offer direct AMS-BRU high speed trains as both airports are pretty much on the line the high speed trains between Brussels and Amsterdam take, some Thalys already stop at one of the two airports. You could actually replace those flights with trains that take less than 2.5 hours.

France: Making train tickets cheaper? Non.

The german approach sounds sensible, but really, it's silly if you take the German train network into account. Sure, the connection might be comparable, but the chances of actually arriving are... probably 25/75 in favor of not arriving (or with a several hour delay probably). I'd even rather get a car than rely on the train network here

Me when he says Fr*nce: 🤮

There are 2 airports in Paris. So you can still go to paris in plane from Bordeaux. Very useful.

Round about solution: connect the smaller communities via other major hubs, such as Amsterdam to Rennes

This is why I’m a pilot in the US. We will never have the infrastructure to take my job 😂

I'd say this could also incentivize improvement of train networks in the long run...if the governments were actively investing in interconnecting their regions.

Raising taxes for flights doesn’t make train ride cheaper, rather planes more expensive. The price of trains remain the same*

That can make train fare go up because the train companies will have a monopoly

Its funny how i watch this channel more than his main channel

the thing is (as an airport employee) rich people rarely wait in lines, at my airport we have a subtle sticker that bypasses the security and customs lines so that rich people or anyone in business class can just skip the lines and walk right to the front. when airports work like this, you can show up 20 mins prior to gate closing if your going carry on only

Perhaps the solution to the connecting flight point with short-haul flight bans is to do it like this: You cannot book a flight that is less than X time by Y alternate means of travel, or you cannot book a flight that is less than X physical distance over land, if it is not part of a longer connecting flight ticket with the same airline. It would still inconvenience deal hunters who book different legs of their journey with different airlines, but those people are gambling with the completion of their journey anyway because the second airline is not liable to adjust your ticket if you're late because of the first airline's error.

It's crazy my family drove from London to a town near Manchester and wasn't that long probably 3.5 hours and its like half the country but from my home town and drive the same amount time I barely leave my state in Australia lol

There are some places a decent amount of intercity trains at the airport, which is needed for this to work. Otherwise flights would go further away hubs (Nantes to say Madrid connect for Madrid to Paris). Apparently pre COVID France had an expansive network that would have been impacted.

You can still take short flights as a part of a connection. It would be interesting to hear your thought on the *actual* policy, because I think you missed this point.

A short haul flight ban is like banning plastic straws. Banning then sounds good, and it looks effective to the public, but it does little in actually solving the global problem. Also, while it might have merit in the EU, try implementing the policy in Alaska, where many settlements are only accessable by air or sea, or Hawaii, with cities on different islands. How would one travel from London to Belfast if not by plane?

My goals are beyond your understandingz

Brussels to Amsterdam is a cycle ride. Not worth planeing

rules for thee and not for me! why ban domestic short haul flights for regular people but not unnecessary short haul private jet flights for the elites?

100 percent positive french politicians will still fly their private jets to go any where.

I live just out side of NYC, and looked at taking the train to connect to the airport, and its closed. Flights can be canceled, but not closed for weeks. AirTrain JFK Red towards Jamaica - Airport AIRTRAIN STATION 1 & 2 TEMPORARILY CLOSED AirTrain Station 1 & 2 is closed until mid-November, 2022, as part of the construction of the New Terminal One. During this period, shuttle bus service is running between terminals 1, 2 and 8. Allow extra travel time. Shuttle buses will make curbside stops at the following locations: Terminal 1 Arrivals and Departures, Terminal 2 Arrivals, Terminal 8 Arrivals Airport Customer Service Representatives will be stationed along the route to provide information and assist passengers with their baggage at each stop. Port Authority of NY & NJ

Also the trains aren't that good yet and they are already widely used so do they have enough train infrastructure to hold all of these people

I don't mind, I never take a plane. I ride my bike instead. I do know why they did this. They earn a lot more on train tickets. Very expensive to take TGV.

Klarna is actually a huge payment provider also in Germany, and I think in Austria

7:15 I generally prefer to walk. (it takes only 2 days.) (I can't ride a bike tbh.)

In the US, my personal limit is probably 5 hours. If I can drive there in 5 hours, I definitely don't want to fly because flying is such an ordeal. 5-10 is debatable. I'd probably still lean toward driving. 12 or more is generally going to be a flight, unless it's a long trip and I will want to have my car. It does make me wish we had a better train network here. It would be nice if they could at least work on high speed regional networks, and maybe make connections between regions later. I've ridden on a train from Ann Arbor to Chicago and back and I could have gotten there just as quickly if I drove.

As long as I can still fly from England to Paris, I'm fine... It's just a 30 minute tram ride, you practically never have to wait more than 5 minutes for one to turn up at the tram station, and they idle at the station for 15 minutes, then head into Manchester. There's also a train station at Manchester Airport in case you need to leave Manchester and go elsewhere in the UK that might not be important a place enough to justify putting an aiport anywhere near. Of course there's also taxi ranks and car rental places...

Well, in Texas it takes the train 9 hours to cover 340 kilometers from Austin to Dallas. No plane ban here.

5 of the most in demand/highest volume flights

this is why trains should connect with airports ideally

England sobbing rn

I've read a bunch of articles on how suburbs and rural areas should be forcefully depopulated so I suspect it's a feature not a bug from the perspective of the banner.

In Slovakia we don't even have flights between the capital and the second biggest city in the country....and it takes 6 hours by train :)

If banning the short flights creates inconveniences, then there will be a clear need to have quick and efficient connector trains between train stations and airports. If the inconvenience causes those to be built, it will ultimately improve things.

10:10 he sounds like Pewdiepie a few years ago.

There is in France an especially strong disdain from the capital city to any other city, even major ones : every single decision has ALWAYS to be about Paris, no matter how counterproductive it might be...not much of a change since 1789.

Huzzah! For Egham! As a Canadian, who's parents visited London this Summer, and who advised them to breakfast in Egham; I approve this video. Is there an I.H.O.P. in Egham? Is there a short hall flight from Heathrow, to Egham? Should it be band?

I think you should just get a big brown dog at this point...

now most likely american tourists are going to go to London, Madrid, Milan, Munich, and then take and Air France flight to Nantes

MAAAAAAAAPSSSSSSSS WOOO. I will stop what I am doing to watch these second channel videos. Still unsure what the first channel is.

We need more train and busses that go to airports

its never about the environment its about control

It's easy to do when your country has an enviable high speed rail network.

so basically they just cant sell repositioning seats

Bet that is only for the peasants and not the rich

Don't allow people to book short-haul flights when that is the entire journey Allow them as connecting flights as part of a larger itinerary

lol the way you say Marseille

rotterdam - Paris is just 2.37 hours, but if it was 7 quicker could you still take a plane from rotterdam to paris?

Banning flights from Nantes, Bordeaux and Lyon to Orly would wipe them off the map? Well, joke's on you Toycat: all three of those cities have direct high-speed trains to CDG where all long-haul flights depart from. In this case the train takes you directly to your onward flight while the plane takes you to another airport 1.5 hours away by public transport :p

look up the shortest flight between two islands in Scotland

CDG Airport is already served by TGV, so requiring passengers to switch to rail probably wouldn't impact travel times in these domestic flights.

Train boarding is easier and faster mainly because of numbers. If too many people start taking it it will become slow as plane boarding.

Well, Norway kind of depends on short haul flights... Short landing strips on random islands etc... We're throwing tons of money on trying to develop electric short haul passenger airplanes...

just take the flixbus from slooterdijk to zavetum

Your pronunciation of French cities could use some improvement. Mahr-sayles?

damn enviornment! causing me minor inconveniences once again!

"Could be made in 2.5 hours" usually doesn't mean it is made in 2.5 hours, sometimes, depending of where you need to go, a domestic flight costs the same or less than a train, but it doesn't take a whole day... Of course not taking a luggage under consideration, that's one of the big pros for trains🤷🏼‍♀️.

Egg ham

Brussels is within two hours by train from Paris.

These flights only make sense for connecting passengers.

Atlas shrugged wasn’t fiction

The USA couldn't do this, our train service is horrible, some routes are once daily, and station parking is nearly nonexistent. Besides the train cost is exorbitant. If I visit someone and look at travel options, and factor in flight waste time, such as check in, security, parking, driving to the airport, ifthe car is a hour more I'll still drive and have a free schedule. Besides the stops are inconveniently located, I think Iowa has just 3, some states have none.

The fact that your hair is detached from the rest of the head looks kind of creepy.

I think we soud be willng to travel seval days if it saves the planet. All flights are happing for now reason

but what about the word shortest flight which is one minute.

7:50 Doesn't an Airport usually have it's own train station? At least it's how it is in Switzerland.

That was the most American way of thinking ever. We are from every where in Europe lol

could you talk about sussex independce please no one talks about it