Frank Zappa: Son of Orange County + More Trouble Every Day 

Indeed. Possibly no better lineup of talented musicians all on one stage, at one time night after night. They certainly had a great run! Meanwhile, present day (the past 3 - 4 decades of music and the bands (entertainers) may or may not actually play an instrument, never mind read / write sheet music. I have no doubt that good musicians still exist and would surely love to create quality original music, but if they know what’s good for them will learn to suppress any potential inspirations to themselves or risk being blacklisted by the major record labels for not “falling in line”.

​​@@SubtomrPumpkinFrank with his SG" wether his gonads were saggy or not isn't the question here !

Wow, didn't know about chester. Cool

yes! that's a great line up that made FZ what he kept to be.....

My favorite Zappa band for sure , love the Vai, Belew stuff but this band is so bad ass

FZ played myxolydian scales like Jerry Garcia. That's a major scale with a flat 7. Used primarily in rock and country (in major keys). Frank didn't play a ton of minor stuff. Mostly major keys.

Frank always hired first class players to back him. Much like jazz headliners. Smart guy...

A lot of people mistake their inability to hear his musical chops as him actually lacking them. It's like Dunning Kruger applied to music, lol

Amen. The recent Chicago 73 release is brilliant (aside from the corny packaging).

yes, my favourite Zappa line-up :)

Yup. Every player in this group is mindblowingly talented. RIP Frank, and George Duke.

Dude there was not a single musician Zappa ever brought on tour that was a slouch... But this linueup was was airtight man. About as flawless as possible.

Fun & Tight!... all you need is glove

it is the time of 1972 up to 1974?? yeah! great line up!

you don't go to juliard by accident.

And beyond

@@moseskelly19 Put this on the Golden plate of the next Voyager Probe, with no explanation.

I tried not to, but you’re right. Zappa music equals joy.

Smiling with tears in my eyes.

A smile and a tear...

Trouble Every Day??

Ja, die Zappa-Truppe hat bestimmt vielen Leuten gut gefallen und erheitert... 🎈

He was referring to Richard Nixon

​@@toiseywoisey Would you mind explaining what the Nixon point was? Thanks

@@joshuabruner9676 the song Son of Orange County is a song that frank used to criticize nixon during this era. this is around 1973-75 when nixon was being investigated for a whole bunch of illegal stuff. the original song Orange County Lumber Truck wasnt originally written about him but he appropriated it for this purpose because it was topical, and Richard Nixon is from orange county i believe. you can also hear frank on Roxy and Elsewhere saying Nixon’s famous “i am not a crook” quote on that track. pairing it with trouble every day also more effect cause of what that songs about. you can also argue that he put the two tracks on the album (which incidentally weren’t recorded at the Roxy) because the record company wouldnt let him release the much more overtly critical song Dickie’s Such an Asshole, which you can hear versions of on the roxy performances boxset from i think 2016

Yes tricky Dicky really where trapped by Report

I need more lead vocals from that dude … silky smooth

And that’s why we’re listening! Vote blue and Happy Memorial Day.😊💙

Yep

your compehension of "relevant" is most askew there fellow traveler !! otherwise a great song.

Legendary

Sure is!

I remember skipping high school in Montreal at the end of June '66 to go to my friend's house to listen to Freak Out. This Roxy performance is by far my favourite.

And so it will forever stand in the Olympus of modern music, teaching people what handmade, intelligent music should sound like

He has one helluva a smile

@@paisleyprincess7996 That made me laugh. It wasn't his smile I was checking out when there was so much more.

Many years back in OB ( San Diego ca) I saw Project Object, Don Preston, Ike Willis and Nappy were on this Bill. Had a long chat with Napoleon on set break, suck a real dude, he mentioned he was hungry and the venue food was Inferior, I said hey man, that liquor store in the corner had great deli sandwiches, We split one, he wanted to pay , I said “no charge, you playing your ass off” we talked about his music in San Jose prior to FZ and he told me about seeing FZ up front and how FZ asked him to join the MOTHERS .. I’ll always remember that meet up. BTW Project Object was good, I believe Gail wasn’t happy about them.

a beast...he's got everything !

@@danzbmw Gail who ???

Golden comment - it just happens I consider Duke & Zappa chief rockers and energetic rascals 🥳🤗uplifting guys

Very exacting musician not a hypocrite not just telling other people to play right but showing up demonstrating those exacting standards equally in his own performance

Phi Collins said his drumming on this song was one of the reasons he wanted Chester in Genesis after Bruford left.

😊

George Duke and Chester Thompson really brought a great funky vibe to this band. Very different sound for Frank, and it kinda went away when those two went off to play with other people.

You have no idea saw them half dozen times and blew ☝

don't let any woman abuse the sausage patties, okra-y??!!!!

Can you believe it? This band and George Duke, Jesus and Zappa, God

George was awesome!!!! God rest his soul!

Ruth is one of the few musicians that would always conquer the challenges that Frank wrote for her. There was no match for her energy and talent when she performed for Frank as his percussionist for sure.

As a guitar teacher....if you think 'snare drum or drum fills' then add that to guitar...that is where his special style comes from. (Plus melody lines of course.)

@@my_tube9405 I believe that Frank started out as a drummer.

That’s true

Bicycle player

@@bathtub_jim7652 that*s famous and f special"

6 String Piano not to take anything away from Ruth, but shouldn’t Frank be considered the hardest working one on stage?

Amen

On Ruth , on Ruth, HAHA! Thats Ruth! More like percussioness ^^

@@naturaljoe7397 If you consider the athletics involved with Ruth's playing - she has to run all around that rig she has - I'd say she's the hardest working. Frank, writing that material for them all and conducting the band certainly makes him the most important musician on stage, but Ruth is working, man!

Zolar Czakl point taken

Why? Did you have to endure richard MILHOUSE nixons term also?. That fuckin guy was a piece of #!$@=%// work huh? (Laffin)

Nappy never even had to audition for Zappa. Zappa saw him singing in a bar in Hawaii, approached him after the show and told him to come see one of his shows. If he likes what he hears and wants to join the band, he's in. When Nappy learned that Zappa had Ponty and Duke, he was hooked.

Yeh and what a name

Flood & Fidler , I met Napy at a “Project object @ show in OB Ca. ‘Winstons’ , he was very down home, I think he told me he was from San Jose. Note: Ike Willis and Don Preston were in. That ensemble.

Oh! I don’t think Gail Zappa approved.

Dennis the menace Napoleon Murphy Brock!

My thoughts exactly. He rarely looked that unconditionally happy.

A rare Zappa smile is always heart warming

@@chrishull3731 Never exspected to see Zappa smiles, he was a serious man, with a prickly irony. xD

My favorite part

Hes realized the achievement hes created

If you watch his interviews, notice that he smiles and fair lot! IMHO when he's describing the lunacy of some of the incidents ,when dealing with politicians he's recalling!

Dweezil ought to reissue it - The Son with Orange Tan + More Trouble Every Day. History repeating.

YES!!

Say it again for the people in the back..

Amen my brother. 2020 summed up in a 53+ year old song Frank wrote. History doomed to repeat itself. Will 2021 be worse?

@@marsailmar1 It will worse if the people who control the entertainment industry and news media don't get their desired candidate in office.

He kinda is--thru the music. That's where he resides--even still.

Listening to and watching Frank play his solos was mesmerizing.

If you have any memoirs and you're comfortable sharing some things that would be super awesome for the millennials and gen z. Your memories will otherwise go with you... alright I'm laying the pressure on too thick 🚬☕

My folks never got me liking this. Bad for them. Great for me

He certainly released enough material to enjoy for years. If you like this band lineup, I suggest you buy Roxy The Movie on DVD or Bluray.

blyguy I will have a look at that for sure! I was shown the Baby Snakes DVD years back which is what originally got me into Frank and the Mothers! Was a fantastic show.

IMO, besides, or equal to, Flo & Eddie, NMB is the best singer that Frank ever had in a band.

@Blake T I saw Duke numerous times with Zappa. I saw Billy Cobham with those Miami Vice guys and the Mahavishnu Orchestra.

Yep same here. Seeing the music

Yep same here... deseeding

Seen Frank and his band/orchestra in Long Beach about ' 75 . Great show ,the best. If I had to sum it up they were... sooo tight. It was, it was very good.

@@olcraigsen Was Captain Beefheart with them at the time? Bongo Fury came out that year.

True

All times.

A real genius!

@@TheDockeys not a genius, just a lot of work

Agreed

@@holyhex6520 Absolutly right and nobody was better in writing nice melodies

Saw this lineup with Ralph Humphries on 2 set of drums and Jeff Simmons on guitar. Even better!

too bad they cut almost 2 minutes here

Not a very suave edit

@@christofrip1723 What do you mean?

@@paulinebutcherbird At 2:53 the song is edited and missing almost 2minutes. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3o8kM4qwl4U.html Here is the missing part if you start it at 4:28 I had to look it up again since I didn't fully remember

@@christofrip1723 wow! I thought that given Frank jumped at that point it was his choice to change tune there. All my admiration for noticing that.

Ralph Humphrey is sorely missing but time marches on, I suppose ...

@@thewordlove4316 who's he??

Such a fool xd

I saw this tour at the Spectrum in Phila. I remember telling my friends that every musician knew exactly what the others were doing for the whole 2 and a half hour show. I saw FZ many times. He did 5 nights at the Palladium in Hollywood and did not play the same song twice!

@@jhendrixfanatic2 We are fortunate people, you & I, my friend. I never missed a chance to see them play live....never. And hell yes, they all knew exactly where everyone else was musically. It's probably similar to an astronaut hanging out with pilots - by that I mean the "regular" great player compared to someone who played in Frank's band...right?

Zircon entrusted tweezers in his hand?

Gave us some good drum footage from time to time and the sound was amazing.

Overall recorded quality is amazing & well mixed too. Ubiquitous amounts of Sennheiser MD441 on stage. Chester Thompson is great player & kit (so Genesis pinched him). Playing aside, I think the sonic tightness is attributed to removal of all resonator heads on toms & kicks (lots of padding in the kick). All those Toms appear to mic'd the underside (I think with little EV's), Sennheiser 441 on the snare but I'm not sure what the 3 pencil mics (with metal windshields) on the overheads are but the cymbals sound pristine & I'd be pleasantly surprised if they are dynamic mics. The kick mic might AKG D12e.

Hats off to whomever mixed it 👍

@@matthowe7057 - according to Phil Collins, it was Chester's drum fills in More Trouble Every Day that got Phil to give Chester a call ....

@@JosephFrancisBurton , Just came here from a Phil Collins interview where he said that. I'm not a great fan of pop , Phil in the 80's on . But, I appreciate his craftsmanship. Now that I know he listened to Zappa, hired Zappa's drummer, AND remembering his kick-ass drumming in early Genesis, . . . . . I guess a better go listen to some Collins Pop.

listen :helsinki concert !

@@loicruello9599BAD MUSIC😀😀😀

Dumont : great story man . . . I also know what you mean by feeling you know what's what in music , 40/50 years of listening & loving is ... blah blah blah blah 😋stoned again🐂💨

Don't forget Zappa in NY 1977 album! That's freaking amazing stuff too. As well as other works from Zappa and the awesome musicians he had as time went. Gotta love the man, best guitarist ever if you ask me :)

One zise fits all.good

he also referred to most rock journalism as "people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read."

He means they're irrelevant. Ya tank

Too cold in Montana so they moved the dental floss bushes to frkin Texas.im on my pigmy pony checkin.on em now...

Or the devil

NO GOD! HE ALWAYS MAKES SURE THAT HIS BAND IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE BAND IN HELL!!!

I have the Roxy and Elsewhere albums..... I am not getting rid of those... The labels are on backwards. Side 1 and 4 are switched.