Fujifilm autofocus is a joke ( ft. XH2s firmware 6.0 / XH2 4.0 / XT5 3.01 ) 

Firmware 7.0 got released, Fixes "Hand detection" PART 2 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mcyiDzgnsnQ.htmlsi=PzkZ9qvnkYpP_WFB Old videos about fujifilm autofocus issues : Jared z - Autofocus problems XT5 XH2 video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tnaKQDMM4lk.htmlsi=TuPcj_70aWAnxx_3 Eddy Summers - XH2s autofocus video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--K3j6djuetg.htmlsi=h-fzJiMHfVGvPwKq Tom Wright - XH2S autofocus issues - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v17yNkLqtMQ.htmlsi=U8k34xuaxBCoB01U * ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gaYjAO4LhlI.htmlsi=tdclatLi_ecUOSO4 One more XH2s user tested it and got the same results, My camera wasn't "defective" * ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-losiVoKUZLI.html XS20 fw 1.11 vs xh2s 6.0 23mm f2 * ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EyGymn2aDqU.htmlsi=n0KdROIbW32Dmv4Y I uploaded a short update on this channel to show you that I am right about false positive focus :

I fixed all my Fuji AF problems by selling it all and buying a Nikon Z8. Problem solved and near perfect AF achieved.

I shoot portraits with the X-T5, and basically half of my shots are focused somewhere totally different than the green box was locked on. Even if it focuses on the eye, it would not focus on the iris, but the eye lashes, so if I come close to the model with an F/1.4 then don't expect the AF to do what you want it to do. Zoom lenses are the worse (16-55 in particular) and I get it that the camera decides where to focus, but it sends back signal to the lens that processes the information, and also it's different with every lens how much and what kind of (focal plane) light hits the sensor, so some lenses are still gonna be better at AF than others. I have Fuji's top portrait lens, the XF90, and it's still just meh. I prefer to just focus myself with one small focus point, but that's hard to do when your model is actually moving :P so well... you guys wanted vintage film photography feel? You got it! :D Anyway, I still love the colours and the film-like texture of the photos, so I'm trying to learn shooting like if I was in the 90's, but maybe one day I might give up.

All the comments are proving yet again that there is no such thing as set it and forget it in Fuji land. The user who has problems is the problem. No, Fujifilm AF is still behind.

The magic hand held focusing was brilliant! LOL Great video. Subscribed!

bro you can feel it in your hand...BOOM! cat detection. had me dying! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌

ya all want details? I use the x-h2s with the 23mm 1.4 LM lens, and even at f /4 I have the same performance after the 6.0 update so put down your pitchforks.. Tracking was extremely dissapointing endeavour for me as well, and while I was happy with the AF before the update (mostly), I find it worse right now. For the sake of argument, even if only our cameras got worse after the update (which is not the case, I see people in X-H2s groups every day with the same complaint), it's still a fujifilm software issue, so stop defending them, maybe? I get it, I love my X-H2s as well, but a shitty behaviour is a shitty behaviour!

Wow! A brutal, but honest and thorough, take down! And the best part is that you did all the troubleshooting that Fuji should be doing, in order to find the root of the problem for them. If I were running that company I would hire you and make you the lead quality engineer on the AF development team. If you continue to make videos like this, your channel will grow quickly. Thanks, man....I just subscribed.

this review has gained you a new follower. keep up the great work

Hey Man, I appreciate you doing this video. I hear everyone comments but you show your test, not sure how that is user error with a detail explanation if they do not have this issue. I have a LUMIX S5 IIX and looking at this Camera for my next purchase. I will have to rent this and try it for myself. Thanks again.

Now that's a review. Entertaining and shows the problems of the camera in detail :D Now please one for the Sony A7 IV.

I believe Fujifilm has severe problems with their code base. I‘m a software engineer myself and the kind of new bugs they introduce with updates are typical for poorly designed abstractions of sub components and data flow concepts. It seems their code is a mess and that’s why they have turn everything upside down to marry AI subject detection with 425 AF points and introduce a whole lot of new unrelated bugs along the way. Unfortunately there is no easy way out.

Thank you for having the courage to post the reality of the Fuji cameras. I have the GFX100 II and XT5 and they both do exactly what you’ve shown. It’s incredibly frustrating. I bought a Sony A7R5 out of frustration and it’s miles ahead of Fujifilm for AF.

Excellent video - one of the best reviews.

Straightforward and honest. Well done.

You made me laugh @3:00 but you are 100% right on that. I have watched bunch of youtubers that do that. I noticed that they test the AF tracking with a stepped down aperture and wide lenses. However, I still love fujifilm because of the colors.. I hope they will revamp their AF soon..

The lens truly impacts the AF speed. Just as you said, the camera determines it is focused, but in real world, only move the optical elements to adjust the focus, that mean if the lens focussing is slow (move the optical elements front/back slowly ) even the camera tracking the subject successfully (camera guess the correct focus length ) but the lens is moving slowly, and you moving again, finally you also can’t aim the object. Why I know that, because when I use my xt3 + xf 100-400 for bird photography, it clearly let me know the focusing between the camera and lens is not at the same time (not synchronized), I feel the lens is slower than the camera detection.

I switched from Canon DSLR 60D to Fujifilm X-T1 & X-T3 at the time but very dissapointed experiences on autofocus! I sshot my friends while motobike trips (touring)… the focus almost 90% failed… I have already heavily invest on prime fujifilm native lens… finally in this year 2024 I switch to Sony APSC camera A6600

I took the effort, watched the video more than once and read all the comments below until today. To say it in advance, I'm a photo hobbyist with some semi professional tasks sometimes. The reason why I'm interested in your video is because I'm thinking about switching from Sony to Fuji because of the 'fun factor' as well as the 'famous Fuji colors'. Thus, your findings are important for my decision, so thank you for the effort you took with all your experiments. And that is what brings to my perspective, which I would like to add to all the discussions. What you did is an experiment. And to be recognized with the results of an experiment the experimentalist has to make the conditions, under which the experiment had been done, official. Why ? To enable other experimentalist to reproduce the findings in their own laboratory/environment. This is the (perhaps directly after the first rule, which is to be honest) the second important rule in experimental science. In order to be recognized by the community, you have to open up the details of your experimental setup. In cases where the author refuses to do so, there will be no serious journal willing to publish any article about what you were doing. So the question arising to me is, is it your intention to get seriously recognized by others with your findings or not ? If yes, you won't get around telling your specific camera settings as well as the exact lense types you used. End of comment at that point. But I will also comment on the question, whether or not a lens is one of the decisive components for AF performance. As far as I understand AF technology, the general layout of such an AF system is a control loop, in which both, the camara processor with its software as well as the lens are taking part. The lens is not only the component, which reacts on what is coming as a steering signal from the processor. There is also a feedback from the lens, because the processor gets its informations through the lens. In such a system (and I constructed some of these feedback loops in my professional life) the most important parameters are the time constants of the different components. If these doesn't much in some certain range, the feedback loop isn't working properly. The usual symptoms in this case is either that the system starts to oscillate or that it reacts much to slow. That doesn't mean necessarily that this is the reason for the bad Af performance in your experiment. Frankly I even don't think so, because it can't explain the fact that the camera notoriously focuses on things outside of the 'green' eye-af-box. But what it means is that the lens with its own time constant (AF speed) is an important ingredient within the AF feedback loop and must not be disregarded. Finally I very much hope that you are willing to share your experimental setup (all the parameters) with the community, in order to enable the reproduction of your results. In this case one can even think about making the results available to the Fuji R&D department to help improving their AF-systems.

Thanks for sharing. Great work and conclusions.

Thank you for your courage. I was hesitating to buy an XH2-S soon (I currently have an X-T3) to take wildlife photos (birds in flight among other things). The number of blurred photos with the X-T3 is significant. I was hoping to solve this problem with the XH2-S but it doesn't seem to work any better. The large number of XH2-S owners who, like you, have reported this problem means that there can be no doubt about the veracity of the problem. I hope that Fuji will take users' complaints seriously, otherwise many, like me, may turn to other brands when reliable AF is a must! For my part, I'm putting on hold any idea of buying the XH2-S until I see whether FUJI reacts or not... Thanks again for your work

Great review, thanks! You had me rolling with the Hand / Touch-Tracking section, that was hilarious! Truly hope Fuji figures this out, it’s had as large an impact on their sales as it did with Nikon’s Z platform. Looks like 3D finally set Nikon on the right path, hoping Fuji finds some secret Godzilla Kaizen to fix their AF woes… it’s really what’s holding me back from buying into the system (On A7IV currently). Sub’d.

I’ve just got round to testing the update. I used it with the 18mm f1.4 and Viltrox 27mm 1.2. Took my kids to play football and then the park. It tracked both photos and video very very well, fast paced running and swinging on swings. Looking at your test, you seem to be moving the camera back and forth very quickly, too quickly and especially too quick for 250 shutter speed if it’s photos. I have an fx3 and the focus is better but not night and day.

Good video. My issues have not been as bad as yours but I’ve experienced a lot of the same

thanks alot for shareing this... i posted your video yesterday on a big fuji facebook group... it had alot feedback, but was deleted today. there are so much fuji fanboys out there. and yes, im also one. i love fuji since the XT1, XT2, XT3, XH1... bought a whole lenslineup during all the years... but the AF performance was always a big issue for my work at events, where i like to rely on eyeAF tracking. i take fuji just on my private time, with my daughter... but would love to use the expensive lens lineup we have for my daily work as a video and photographer... personally i work with my 15sony bodys... but for a new teammember in our company i thought to invest in the xh2s... she isnt very technical orientated... so to change the AF for every shoot or every lens is not practicable... so we go for a canon R6ii with adapted old EF lenses... we also own alot EF lenses... and are waiting another year for a new fuji where i would love to use also on events. thanks to your video, ... i love your conclusion... fuji should fix it with a complete re-design... focus is the most important stuff. and yes we also worked before with canon und nikon FF without all these goodies... but the sony a9 changed my way to work, i can rely on EYE AF tracking and spend more energy in frameing the shoot, catch the right moment, be aware of the backlight and scenerey in the back... rather then check if its focusing right... and for video with my a7s3... how cool is to have the cam in a gimbal... without a heavy ext display and followfocus system...

I'm currently using Nikon Z50 and planning to switch on full frame like Nikon Z6ii or Z7ii. Can you please tell me which is better.

I would love a video about Panasonic S5II autofocus for photography. I'm leaning towards Panasonic but if the autofocus is on the same level of Fuji then the change would have no sense at all. Thank you! Excellent video! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I have the same problem as you, hope Fuji official will solve it as soon as possible

What film profile you using bro. On video mode and also what lens you using

face detect box does mean that camera tells "we know there is face" it is not "we focused there". face detect focus is just useful for photo only. when eye detect focus on for video, focus wobbles a lot. so i didnt use eye decect af for video with xh2s your video is very helpful and fun kkk

Yes, I agree. I'm primarily a video shooter. Since firmware 3.0, the camera hasn't been the same. Many people may not encounter this problem, as most are shooting human subjects at half or full height, maintaining the same distance, which, with no foreground elements in the frame, this won't really test the camera. The majority of the stuff I shoot won't really encounter this problem. I own both the Fuji XH2s and the Sony A7RV. With the Fuji, once you partially cover the face, it loses focus. This doesn't happen with the Sony. However, I find that if I'm shooting very tight head/detail beauty shots in video, I can't rely on the Sony autofocus either. I have to admit, I love the image from the Fuji more than the Sony (both stills and video), but I don’t see this problem being fixed, as the XH2s is nearly two years old.

All i experience is that no matter what your focus area is small or zone, the face tracking/recognition always jumps outside the focus area box. Its sucks

I have an XT4 which I mostly use for stills but rarely use eye detection because the algorithm is just rubbish. It detects eyes and faces where it shouldn’t even though there is a clear face in front of it and I get a lot of out of focus images. I mostly stick with the classical box focus and recompose but that’s a luxury one can can afford only in shooting stills. So thanks for the video, I thought I was asking too much from the camera but turns out I’m not alone

TLDW: OP reveals at 14:18 that fujifilm uses 104 very spaced out focus points in continuous subject/box/area tracking autofocus tracking instead of 425 (available on single autofocus and small single set point continuous focus) which causes major subject tracking issues as the camera jumps drastically from one of the 104 points to the next despite displaying "tracking" confirmation.

I lost it 😂😂😂 Gonna try doing the same thing, it's ridiculous.

Absolute f*cking legend! I own the X-H2s and 6 lenses 3 red badge and my experience is exactly this! I just got an a7Rv and an a9 III for testing and I can tell you, I completely agree with you. Shot 10.000 images yesterday at a football match (120fps a few times) and around 10 of them was missed focus…food for thought

What lens or lenses did you use?

I have the X-T4 and never noticed problems like this, but I consider upgrading to an X-H2 so I stumbled upon this video. I just tested the "hand in front of face" thing with eye-detection, with 117 and 425 focus points (in settings you can switch, which you want to use) and in neither mode I got a problem. As long as it sees my face and shows a green box, it is in focus (at least mostly). Is this an X-H2S specific thing, is it in all new cameras or what is going on??

what is your (AFC) Speed ​​and sensitivity setting??? (sensitivity +0 )( speed +5 ) ?

Really great video, agree with you on all of this and on Gerald Undone and Camera Conspiracies, maybe Tony Northrup too, the rest don't seem to go very in depth. Maybe Christopher Frost for lenses but he misses things and doesn't test for very long.

Thank YOU ! You nailed it ! right to the point

I was mad at you for claiming that before watching the video, but then i tried what you did at 07:00 with my xh2s with a 16mm and yeah, you're right. They messed up big time on this update. Hope the latest firmware with reala ace can fix this. Do you know if there's a way to downgrade the firmware? I think you should email this video to Fujifilm, they've got to do something.

New Fujifilm firmware updates that add REALA ACE and fix autofocus for the following Fujifilm cameras: X-T5, X-H2, X-H2s, X-S20. this video will stay forever so I want to say that fujifilm fixed this problem. people who watch those videos, will not be aware that this was caused by a bug in a the firmware that has been fixed by Fujifilm today. You can download firmware now.

That's definitely a major software issue. It seems like it auto tracks movements or the software is programed to focus on hands. Good catch.

The funny part is that my old X-S10 keeps the focus better on the eye than demonstrated in this video. It doesn't lose the eye if you bring the hand in the frame, even near the eye. I was looking to buy an X-H2S at some point because I like Fuji colors and the feel of the cameras, and of course, because I already have some lenses, but after seeing this, I don't know. That S5IIX is starting to look like a good choice. I just hate the idea of buying full-frame lenses from scratch. And, of course, the rolling shutter is horrible on that camera.

This is great work, a proper and critical look at the autofocus that people on RU-vid seldom bother to do. You'll get a lot of hate from people; for some reason they don't like hearing about weaknesses in their cameras but keep making videos anyway and bringing light to a real area that can hopefully be fixed.

For some of your issues it seems like Fuji is using the 'product' mode of the X-S20 in VLOG where the focus automatically focuses on what is nearer the camera. However, down below someone said you can set AF to auto or front.

I used to have 2 XT3's and 3 XT4's for video production a few years back. It was always a pain to deal with autofocus. Sometimes I would repeat takes many many times hoping one would not hunt. For live events, all I could do was just keep my fingers crossed. I bought all the lenses. The 18mm f1.4. The 33. I was a firm believer that eventually Fujifilm would have to fix it, but it was getting to the point of being embarrased in front of my clients. After the XH2S release I noticed the same autofocus behavior in all the sample footage online. I finally gave up. I'm shooting all Sony now (4 A7IV and 2 A7S3) and my blood pressure is back to normal. It's all about reliability and peace of mind. Sure, you can get a Sony to misbehave under very special circumstances, but it's very rare.

Hi, I tried it on my xh2s with the fuji 33mm and I had your same issues (less than yours), then I switched to "single point" mode and from 117 to 425 and it works fine. Can you try please?

Can you please do comparison of fuji and Panasonic S5II(x) newest autofocus???

Facts. I have an X-T3 but my next camera won't be from Fujifilm, they're just not improving. It's also funny to see commenters blaming the lens for being too slow while it actually loses focus very fast when hand covers the face.

so basically same autofocus as Xt2. thanks for doing this

I was all set to order the XT-5, and now all of a sudden I'm not....

I am on the previous firmware and I could not get my X-H2S to repeat this behavior. I used a 23mm 1.4 (version 1) and tried to closely match your framing. I moved my hand into frame quite close to my eye, and the AF system stayed locked on my eye as advertised by the focus point. I'm not sure what else could be at play, but I'll be avoiding firmware 6.00 for now. One thing I am curious about: Do you potentially have subject detection and eye detection enabled at the same time? Normally, the camera indicates that subject detection is disabled as soon as you turn eye detection on. I wonder if firmware 6 introduced a bug that allows you to have both subject detection and face/eye detection enabled at once. If that is the case, subject detection might simply take priority even though the camera indicates that you are locked onto the eye. I know, it's a total shot in the dark. But I've noticed that subject detection prioritizes near objects just as your camera seems to when you lift a hand into frame.

I was quite happy with the autofocus system on my X-S20. Since the 2.01 firmware update, many of my photos are out of focus. THAT WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE. Like you, green autofocus boxe on the eye, but when I review the photo on my computer, it's not pin sharp on the eye (when it's not blurry). Worse still, it now finds 'eyes' in the ears, in the middle of the hair on the head, or in the background even if there's no-one there. This could happen occasionally before, but it was rare. One more time it wasn't the case with firmware 1.20. I was expecting top-of-the-line autofocus with this so-called "major update". I'm very disappointed and even upset. HOW CAN I GO BACK TO THE OLD FIRMWARE? WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD VERSION 1.20? Thanks in advance for your help!

What's most unfortunate about all of this is just how far behind Fujifilm really is with its autofocus and its users are somehow convinced that it's just as good if not better than Sony/Canon. This will be the second time I sold an X-H2S camera body and it will be the last. I'm done believing that Fujifilm will ever overcome this limitation and get back to using Fujifilm for what they truly excel at; travel and recreational photography. For that task, the X-T series has always been my preference so I realize now that there is no real reason for me to keep the X-H2S.

You should post this video on an official Fujifilm forum if they have it or just send it to their support. There is a bigger chance they will fix the problem if they see it. I shoot on Canon R6 but I'm actually planing to replace it with Fujifilm x-s20 (don't laugh). I need something small for travel and Fujifilm is the only brand I've never owned. I was actually aware about the AF issues but it seems the problem is bigger than I thought.

Yeah but actually what lens/ lenses did you use?

My AF-C with XT-5 and 23mm 1.4 LM and 33mm 1.4 LM is better with the new update in photo-mode than before. Touch-Tracking in video mode is far behind my Sonys however in Video-Mode.

Sharing my experience here. 2yrs ago, I tested the XT-4 on a model / fashion shoot and the single point AF feels ok but... AF-C without subject tracking was completely whack. I thought my technique was bad after all, I only ever shot Canon for the last 12yrs, never a Fujifilm. A couple of months later, I tried the XH-2 (non-S) but the results were nearly the same, subject tracking back then was completely whack... it couldn't stay on a subject even with minor movement in the scene. Non-subject tracking AF-C was the same as the XT-4. That surprised me since on most RU-vid videos, they say the AF on Fujifilm cameras are fine... fortunately, I took it to myself to test all the major brands before deciding to switch to Sony. If I just watched RU-vid videos, I really might have gone to Fujifilm and got stuck with a system that I could barely use.

Generally I have to agree false autofocus in Fuji still exists, we can have a box in the eyes of face showing that the autofocus working, but it actually does not when we view it from the final screen. But not thinking to jump ship as I am still positive that Fuji will fix it.

I recently bought some manual lenses. I should play with them for a while. So I got a recording red frame!

Pretty good AF review. I agree with some of the comments suggesting you should add the camera settings and the lens used specs. However, I agree with your findings and more people should be less fanboy and recognise this Fuji behaviour is not acceptable. This have been an issue since I started in fuji (X-T3) and it has never been solved properly. Some of the issues you have shown us are related with the speed of the lens, while others are definitely AF algorithm related.

Now, I'm curious about a few things (I've been a Fuji user for 8 years, all the way from the X-T10 to the X-H1 & X-T3, which were the last cameras I could afford to buy, so I'm fully aware of the advantages and limitations of the brand). I noticed you used a pretty nervous continuous AF setting (since it's pretty jumpy). Personally, I always use it in the following subject settings (ae keeping the focus on the subject despites stuff coming in frame in front of it), and while still not perfect, I've had much better results on my X-T3 than you with your X-H2s. Have you tried that mode ? Also, you made fun of the youtube videographers AF tracking test of bobbing their heads up and down and in donut... Only to follow it by an equally invalid test of moving the camera back and forth ! When you do that, of course the camera's AF will suck, as the entire frame is moving. That's not just Fuji, that's pretty much any camera on the market ! If you want to make an accurate test, you have to keep the camera still and have the model walk move closer and further from the camera, so that the camera only has to focus on the model's variation of depth, and not the entire environment. Also, for the upteenth time, which specific lenses have you used ? Sure, the camera's computer is the brain to tell the camera where to focus, but if you think the lens doesn't make a difference in where it focuses, I beg to differ. I don't remember which lenses as it was years ago, but I do remember I've had some wild variations of quality of focus selection by keeping the same camera and slapping some different lenses on it. So all in all, funny video, good production value and great lighting, we can all see you know how to use a camera and your lights, but also quite a couple parts in your rant that are done in pretty bad faith for the clickbait (I mean, for us Fuji users, we've known for years their AF is less than stellar, no need to beat a dead horse. If we keep using it, it's because they've been excelling at a lot of other things, like colors, film sims, ergonomy, and just the fun factor of having in our hands a camera that actually feels like a camera of old and not a mini-computer). To each their own preferences.

Hola, apenas vi el video corri a encender mi XH2S y sorpresa tengo el mismo error aunque no lo he notado mucho en fotografía, pero ayer apenas tuve un trabajo que tenia que grabar video y note algo extraño el autofoco .... hoy hice estas pruebas grabandome a mi mismo y tengo el mismo problema, me siento en la misma situacion que tu amo Fujifilm por todo pero el autoenfoque me da dolores de cabeza

I have only ever used area focus when using fujifilm. I realised very quickly that Fujifilm need to rework their autofocus from the ground up. I have managed to use my fujifilm cameras for some professional work but no more. I own an x-s20 for fun but all my pro work is done on my canon R6 an R6 Mark II

Thanks man, I was about to buy this over the Sony a6700 becuase of the dual card slots on the X-H2, but maybe it is better to take the risk on a card failure which is very unlikely - rather than take the risk of having out of focus images and video written to 2 cards, which seems very likely!

You are the most honest guy talking about cameras!!!

This is the same behaviour with manual focus lenses, because yes the camera does the face eye detection. I’d prefer that the box is white or yellow (like on my xt3) if it’s not actually in focus. Only have green when it is

"You can hold the focus point in your hand" LOL I switched to Canon 2 years ago for this reason. I actually miss in some ways working with Fuji film styles... but I can't afford 2 systems. I need 1 that works reliably, and it isn't Fuji, regrettably.

I just updated my camera yesterday but it’s only the 4.0 so what I’m I missing out here

Appreciate this. I was torn between xh2s and A7 IV for my upgrade after 4 years of using a6400 as my workhorse. Thinking about switch to Fuji because of their film simulation. But in the end if camera focus can not do its job then the rest can be ignored

Pictures of kids on a swing is also a test for an autofocus system that can be repeated easily in any playground, but also in any lab. It is a very repetitive movement. It has a stable curve describing the speed of movement. The movement follows a regular curve. So something that can be detected and can be predicted. And: it is something which many parents and grand parents want to take pictures of. Give it a try. I did so. Getting a sharp picture with my Fuji x-t5 is just luck. Frustrating.

I just checked this issue on xt4 and 18-55,everyting works fine even in low light 10/10

I find it pretty dubious you’re not willing to share any lens info, most of these comments are folks asking about your lenses and your only response is “it’s not the lenses”. I see you also said a number of times “firmware will not make a lens focus incorrectly” or something similar which is objectively not true. Look at Rokinon/Samyang lenses, you can download a tool to adjust fine AF focus distance which is exactly what you’re claiming doesn’t exist. The fact you’ve even posted an “update” video and still won’t talk about lenses I think says everything here.

The lens can be an issue if the firmware on the lens is not compatible, What lena are you using with which version of firmware. I have the same camera and i do not have your problem, I have just done the test.

Man I know it is serious stuff but that finger focus was hilarious!!! Hahaha

Curious if you selected FOCUS priority on shutter release or not. That usually solves that issue.

Thank you for this video. I hate this stupid „af tests“ where the head is moved from left to right. And that everyone is making „camera tests“, with cameras they don‘t even work with. People spend a lot of money because of these tests.

I do still photography only. When I bought my xt5 af was really bad. Would show you in camera it got the eyes in focus, birds, what not, but when actually reviewing the photos on pc they were clearly oof. I remember I went out to the park and there was a pigeon few metres away, activated animal detect, the camera was convinced that the af was on the bird, but when reviewed, out of 4 photos, all of them appeared to be back focused by couple of metres at least. Lens was 16-80. Then the update came, now it's miles better, but sometimes would still have the confirmation box on the eye of a subject when in reality the camera was focusing on the cheek or even on the other eye. So it's not that bad now, probably 1-2/10, which I find acceptable for what I shoot, my family events. However, if I was to shoot fast moving subjects I'd choose something else in an instant

I still use single point af for bird photo, birders will think I’m crazy. It’s what I’m used to but I know Fuji tracking isn’t great so I don’t even bother. For birders many use canon and they are top notch esp for small twitchy birds which is really the gold standard test for tracking.

I have 3 mirror less cameras and 4 DSLRs and Fujifilm Xh2S is one of them. I prefer this body along with Fujifilm 150-600 mm zoom lens for wildlife photography. I several times contacted service center and reported out of focus problem during long distance photography but they ignored it. Lastly I showed them by using Nikon f mount sigma 150-600 lens along with adaptor f to fx mount. Now, they convinced and took my set for repairing. I don't know whether it can be repaired because it is a manufacturing defect. In each and every cases Canon R10, which I carry as a supporting camera, saved me in several occasions. I purchased Fujifilm set only for its light weight. Are Fujifilm company misguiding us? All reviews I have seen online, are got up case?

I have an X-h2 and got some bad results doing DR400 and ISO500 on a XF 16-55 zoom, also got some really bad autofocus behavior after shooting for 3h, at the end of the session i noticed my autofocus wasn't the same. It got to a point where i had to stop and consider shooting manually. Since day one that i had an X-e4, and now that i use the X-h2 for work, updating the camera for better autofocus felt like placebo to me, it makes no sense that a camera this expensive with a smaller sensor can be so bad at times. But I'll keep it anyway, i love the colors, agree with you that most reviews here on YT are useless.

What focusing parameters are you using?

it was at least more or less possible to use (naturally it could not compare with the autofocus of canon, sony, nikon, etc.). But now with fw 6.00 they broke what was not the best, completely. I don't have enough anger. I have been using Fujifilm cameras for 7 years and I have never encountered such a shame. I bought the H2s in the hope that this camera would finally work as Fujifilm marketers said it would. But no, now, perhaps, this flagship has become a disgrace to the brand. This is very, very, frustrating.

Came here from Camera Conspiracies!

FUjifilm just released a firmware update for the XS20... we will see if they have improved it or broke like this...

I'm using xh2 and 150-600mm lens. It was ok before updating to 4.0. Now, the camera is straggling to focus on a hawk that is around 10 yards. Hope fujifilm stops out sourcing the software department and fixes the issue.

It could be a lens motor issue. What lens are you using??

It seems the AF was better in some of the previous firmware points, than 6.0.

I have a Fuji xt-3, I love it. The dials, the image quality, the colors, its manageability. But you are 100% right, autofocus is garbage. It has the same autofocus as a blackmagic, but with worse colors and one stop less dynamic range. As soon as I can I will change the system. I don't like Sony, colors, video settings, etc., but there is no alternative, if you don't have a focus assist. Thank you very much for telling the truth

Fuji green box means what we aim, not what we achieve

Sorry, I have the XT5 and not even the latest Firmware on it. I did the same tests that you did and I am not able to reproduce the faults you mentioned.

There is a setting right that can make the camera ignore everything that comes in front of the focused subject. I use that setting during weddings.

That alien technology touch tracking is amazing! 🙀😂

If you look closely on my whole talking head (very easy scenario) you will see that 40-50% of the time my face is out of focus , I was using using face-eye detection 0 sens 2 speed Multi.

I really wanted to believe from the last Summit that they were fixing the autofocus and they did not. I absolutely love the XH2 and XH2S designs and features....except BOTH continue to have extremely deceptive autofocus which is a joke!! You take your time focusing and shooting, thinking you gave it the proper time to get it correct and afterward, soft images. I also want to add, the camera constatly moves the focus to the corner of the screen in between shots. I can be extremely careful not to touch screen but then it automatically moves focus to the corners. On another note, it also "turns off autofocus" on screen .

As a Fuji user myself you did make some valid points and some points, attempted, made for questionable credibility from not considering all the variables. If you need cutting edge focus for complex run and gun situations everyone should know by now Fuji is 1-2 generations behind Sony.

As a fujifanboy, this is sad, luckily for me, I'm still rocking the xt3 and most of my stuff is done with flash and nothing under 5.6, sometimes even 8 or 11, so I dont struggle with focus, obviously, as I wanted to adventure with the GFX100II, this makes me a little worried, I hope they are not screwing up that one. The only odd thing in this video, is the fact you're gatekeeping the which lens you're using, not that I want to use as an argument to defend Fuji, I dont think anyone can tbh, but it just seems like an odd response from you, not sure why, but anyway, thanks for the video.

Instead, I think it's actually the lens. When you say it doesn't depend on the lens, even if it has fast autofocus, it can be. Because the lens does not have enough information that the software gives it, or rather it approximates the many information that comes to it from the new software. He can't keep up with the facial recognition or tracking that the software gives him. You should try other lenses. Obviously Fuji when making these updates should make sure to make them work on all Fuji lenses at least, there's no doubt about that, especially when investing money.