Last weekend we went to look at some late model 2500s, but they are really spendy still, and many have 80k miles on them.....the dealer suggested the 2.7 silverado. I had a heck of time coming to terms with a 4banger in a full-sized truck...towing. I've had my 23 LT for 1 week now. I love to drive it around town and to work and back. I have a trip coming up in a few weeks that will have me towing our 5500 pound TT up Mt. Hood here in Oregon. I am a little anxious about towing. My 08 5.3L tahoe has left me scarred while towing this same TT.
I traded a ram in for one a few months ago as well, mainly for payload reasons, I wasn't sure till I test drove and it shocked me! It equaled if not out performed my ram, plus it hauls so smooth! I currently have a 14 foot enclosed work trailer and 7000 gvwr dumper, it hauls both amazing! Takes gravel loads better and much less squat than my ram was! Plus even with 2 yards of gravel in my dumper it just floats up hills and only has to go to about 2000-2500 rpm, where my ram hit 4000-5000 or more to get up some of the hills I do
Current 5.7 Hemi owner and this will likely be my next truck. I have read so much about this and I don't think GM has gotten enough credit for engineering this engine. Its wonderful.
Love the personal speed limit comments toward the end! Dad has been towing campers for 30+ years, and its something he always said. Enjoy the drive, watch the speed demons pass, and get to the campground safe and sound. Makes the drive WAY more enjoyable! Love the realistic review though. Looking at a viable replacement for my '09 5.3 which is pretty tired with 160k on the clock, and this seems to fit the bill for the camper and boat!
Thank you for watching! Your Dad sounds like a wise man. The 2.7l would serve you well! Mine is a Mexico build truck. I haven't had any issues with it being a Mexico build, but have heard others say that the USA built trucks seem to be put together a little better. I can't verify that myself, but it may be something to keep in mind when you are shopping. If they are USA built they will have a sticker stating so.
@@jeremsgarage Just picked my new one up! Stateside assembly, and Dad with the 6.7 Powerstoke even approves of the power! Can’t wait for our first trip!
@@jeremsgarage USA VINs start with a "1", Mexico VINs start with a "3". I work for GM and wanted a Fort Wayne Truck (have worked with folks at that plant) but the first one available at my dealer was built in Silao. Our manufacturing and assembly processes are standardized from plant to plant so they are equivalent quality.
All about gearing period. Inline engine's typically are some of the best engine's made and hold up very well. If you have any issues it will be electrical or the turbo. You said if best time will tell if issues arise. Nice truck, enjoy it and who cares what anyone says.
You nailed it! This is a big 4 "Inline"...I change the oil on it in 30 minutes. This Engine is built with with Diesel durability in mind, from the Duramax as per the Engineer of GM. Now you won't here him talk about it in this video. What I like about if some major parts simply that on the engine making easy to detach and place a new one. And the main ones are on the sides of the engine, not behind it or internally. Very close of a replica to Duramax. Over sized pistons and chain. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JLxeBzrhOHQ.html
that tows 8500lbs with less drama than my 5.3L Suburban (6-speed) tows our 4k lb popup camper. my truck has the worst axle ratio (3.08) and it has to kick and scream to get up to highway speeds. oh yeah mine burns oil (thanks AFM) and the trans would routinely get to 215 degrees which i fixed with a $45 trans cooler...
Thanks for this video. I tow my car once in a while and am using a 3.6 V6 Jeep to do it. I'm just about at the max rating that vehicle can tow and that engine is singing to get it up to speed or up a hill. I appreciate that this motor is designed to make torque down low because I really don't enjoy revving to 7000rpm just to accellerate on an incline.
I too have that truck and love it. Tows great. Not towing it gets in the low 20s mpg in town and on the highway it gets 29 mpg at 65 mph and 26 mpg when going 70mph and up.
My 2022 Silverado 4x4 crew cab has a 2.7 and tows better than my 2018 double cab 2 wheel drive with a 5.3. Keeps lower RPM’s towing the same travel trailer. Both have 8 speeds and both have 3.42 gears. Also the 2.7 has 400 pounds more payload and only loses 200 pounds towing because it’s 4 wheel drive. If I could fix anything about both trucks it would be a larger fuel tank
A lot of these guy are concerned about the rapid heat expansion of the cylinders with that big turbo. But that block and heads are build like the big 6 cylinders in the heavy duty industry that can handle that thermal expansion. And cool down without destroying the block or heads!
I own a 2021 and it is a torque monster. They did a good job of engineering this engine. It is basicslly a diesel tractor engine that burns gas. They hate ethanol but love premium gas. These things are more powerful than many of my 350 V8s and even some of my old big block V8s. It is amazing for it's size.
Beautiful area you live in Jerem! I believe this engine out pulls the 5.3L. From the videos I've seen this thing is built like a diesel. Time will tell but I believe its gonna be a good one 👍
Thank you for watching! This area is stunning! I moved here in 93 as a teenage preachers kid. I told my Daddy that I was staying here. Love it here. This engine, I believe, is the best engine design to come out of GM In a long time.
@@jeremsgarage I watched as many videos as I could find on this engine before ordering my next colorado ZR2. There's a TFL Offroad vid where the guy interviews the GM engineer that was in charge of developing it, and he had the entire engine all torn apart and cross sectioned to inspect any and all predictable wear points. That particular engine had been extreme torture tested to well beyond what any normal person could ever do within any engine's lifetime, and it was almost all immaculate still. It's all reinforced and engineered alongside the dual volute turbo like a diesel to handle these loads and far more for the very long term. I'm excited to get my new truck in July and feel the 430 lb-ft of torque this engine provides. You probably know this but if you decide to you can get your engine flash tuned by GM for 350 bucks to get the 430 torque numbers and keep your warranty, if you haven't already. Thanks for your great vids!
With my state police units we would run the Ford 4.6, V 8 at 3,900 RPM all day and night long. Only had one drop a valve of a fleet of 500+ over 20 years. Ford built those to run fast and forever. We auctioned them off at 120 k miles and they became taxis for many more years. So, yes, and American engine can run at high RPM's and tons of power and not fall apart with the engineering we have today. I would guess they put that same engineering into that 4 cyl.
People are so down on the 4 cylinder. These motors are not the 4 bangers we grew up with. I am debating on trading in my 5.0 coyote on one of these. Has all the power I need
That 2.7l turbo pulls better than my 2008 3/4 suburban 6.0l 6 speed w/3.73 that I bought new and still own today pulling that same weight. She hunt and pecks gears. Hates 6th gear unless going down hill. Most of the time it pulls in 4th or 5th. Lacks low end torque. Turbos are the only way to go, hence why diesel engines have turbos. I would buy that 2.7l engine over any of the v8s.
As with anything, there are trade-offs to consider when comparing the 2.7 turbo engine with the 5.3 on the Silverado. The standard 5.3L engine offers more horsepower, while the 2.7L offers more torque and a higher rate of 3,000 RPM. This makes it a more efficient choice than the standard engine, though not quite as powerful. Both engines have identical towing capacities, while the standard 5.3L engine can handle a bit more payload. They also have similar fuel efficiency, with the 2.7L turbo getting more mileage in the city than the 5.3L V8. An advantage of the 2.7L turbo engine is active thermal management, which keeps the motor (and by extension, the Silverado) liquid-cooled while you’re towing cargo around North Sioux City and beyond. Here are the full specs for the Chevy Silverado 2.7 Turbo vs. 5.3 engines: Chevy Silverado 3.5L V8 Engine 355 horsepower 383 lb-ft of torque 9,500 pounds of towing 2,285 pounds of payload 16 mpg city / 20 mpg highway Chevy Silverado 2.7L Turbo High-Output Engine 310 horsepower 430 lb-ft of torque 9,500 pounds of towing 2,300 pounds of payload 17 mpg city / 20 mpg highway Personally, I would still go for the V8 vs the Turbo 4 since it uses the same amount of gas. TFL did a vid with a Chevy Colorado with the Turbo 4 up the Idaho Guantlet and even though it did not struggle, it did rev at a higher RPM to keep its speed. It also burned more fuel towing a load. But whatever makes you happy convincing yourself that you got a good deal. Happy Trucking.
Thanks for the comment. The thing to keep in mind is that this engine doesn’t need 3,000 rpm to make max torque. I’m pulling 2,000-2,200 rpm at max torque at highway speeds. Max torque is applied at 1,300 rpm. Peak power is more with the V8 but you got to spin the engine quite a bit more to get it. This engine’s power and is right down where it’s used in daily work. The 5.3 and 6.2 are awesome but I choose this engine, not based on price alone but by expected performance in the powerband. It’s proven itself time and time again. Truly a remarkable engine.
The reason I'm a GM Fan is because I feel like their engineers truly try to design a reliable vehicle that works as it should. Many today engineer problems into products on purpose. This motor, although not very fuel efficient is a marvel of technology and built to last. GM is upping the warranty to Duramax standards to prove it.
Hi, I am with you. I think that their engineers knocked it out of the park with this engine. I get about 21 MPG in mixed driving and average 24-25 mpg on highway trips. (not a guess, I hand calculate all the time) I am very excited about the warranty update. I think it will help adoption of this engine even more.
Around here in western NC the 2.7 is outselling the 5.3 by a long shot. Lots full of 5.3 guy says he cant keep 2.7 on the lots. 9 outa 10 silverado or gmc i pass on the road in 2.7. I didn't think it would turn out like this.
The oil pressure in mine always worries me. '23 custom 12 hundred miles. But i had a bumping in my bed like a loose ski ball banging around. Dealer said could not replicate. Still have the banging in the rear end when brakes applies in the driveway. Banging when foot on brake shifting from P,R,N,D and back. Dealer says axel lash. I fix big passenger airplanes. If i told a passenger the banging sound is normal, i would be jailed!!
I understand EXACTLY what you are talking about. I really need to make another video about it. Basically, what I did, was purchase a 26 inch bicycle inner tube.. I cut it into several 4-6 inch strips, jacked up the rear some and let the axle hang down, and tucked them into the pinch points on the rear leaf springs. Fixed it 100% for me. I forgot about doing that until your comment!
There was once a time when people were mad that Chevy trucks didn't come with the 350 small block V8 anymore and that the gen 3 vortec 4.8 and 5.3 were junk .
I remember that time very well. Remember the straight 5 3500 and upgraded 3700? I liked it but some folks hated it. I towed aong haul with the straight 5 years ago in a Colorado. It did good. Not near what the 2.7 turbo does now though. Mountains bogged me down in the 3.5 straight 5.
I just traded in my 2018 F150 ecoboost 3.5 with max trailer tow. It’s not the engines that are lacking in the 1/2 tons it’s the p rated passenger car tires and super soft suspension. Try a 3/4 ton truck if you have not it’s a night and day difference. Very relaxing with the bigger trucks
Thanks for watching! I agree! I usually change my tires to LT tires and ive shored up the rear suspension some. Made a big difference already. I had a dually F350 and know what you mean.
You gotta read the dyno sheets when comparing engines. Look at the amount of torque and horsepower produced between 1500 - 4000 rpm because that is the range you will driving including when you are accelerating. The 2.7 Turbo Max is amazing.
Great vid, I love this engine! I'll explain the trolls.. They have no intelligent point based in truth/common sense. They only have lazy presumptuous group-think talking points and they can't resist ganging up to celebrate each other's ignorance like little school girls. From this perspective I really enjoy them because they're very predictable and actually quite entertaining🤡
I have a 5.7 Tundra and that is impressive as my truck would not fall on its face but it will defiantly know it is back there. I am going to drive on today when I get off work. my 5.7 is tough as hell. but you can never get a 4 cylinder to sound good.
Back before the Offenhauser 4 cylinder engines were effectively rule-booked off the Indy racing circuit, the "Offy's" had a unique, very mean-sounding "growl" that spelled "defeat" to V8's, V12's, jet turbine engines etc. Offy's utterly dominated for more than 50 years, and were never actually beaten on a level playing field. Ford threatened to pull out of Indy in the 1970's after their quad-cam 32 valve Ford-Cosworth V8 in 2.65 L turbo was regularly blown completely off the track by the 2.65 L Offenhauser DOHC 16V 4 cylinder. Threatened with the loss of Ford's deep money pockets, the CART rules committee went to work on forcing the Offy down to power levels that the Ford V8 could survive at, allowing the V8 to actually complete races against the Offy 4's. The Offy's continued to kick V8 butt, until "fuel economy rules" were implemented that allowed Offy 4's only the fuel supply of the V8's. So the Offy's were forced to run behind the V8's because passing V8's meant the Offy ran out of fuel supply and could not finish a race. After the fuel supply rules kept Offy's from winning, teams were forced to run the V8 if they wanted to win, and the Offy passed into history after 1980. Interesting that European teams then started arriving on the Indy racing circuit after the Offy disappeared. Amazing that a little 4 cylinder engine first built as a boat motor by a small American racing engine shop in Los Angeles in the 1920's, so overwhelmed the racing world for the next 6 decades, that big Auto companies both American and European, threatened to leave racing circuits that the Offenhauser was racing. Being rule-booked off racing tracks was not new to the Offy, as that started in the 1930's onward, as the Offy domination in Indy and Midget racing grew. The Offy had the honor of being denied entry in dirt track racing and early NASCAR. No one wanted to face "the little 4 with the big punch" on a level playing field.
Exactly my 4T consistently tows at 1500 less RPM than my V8 Silverado. Also the last trip unladen I got 24.3 MPG in mixed driving out of my 22 2.7T 4x4 crew cab on a 2700 mile trip. That includes the back hills of Pennsylvania and the Smokey mountains in Tennessee. Oh highway I averaged 25.5 mpg. So EPA is way off. I’ve never got below 18.5. When towing I average 13.5 towing my camper. So yeah I believe everything he says.
What size/weight is your camper and what highway speed to you average? I'm looking at a 26', 7,060 dry weight Jayco but want to ensure that my crew cab, short bed 2.7L is up to the task.
@@johnnymoore4665 I’ve already done it. But I’m ready to go again. Mines on video, is yours? 4 banger Silverado towing 9,000 lbs in the Mountains? Part 1 the pull up! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wzE8XXNFiUw.html
Thanks for commenting and watching! This little engine has surprised me more than once. It eats miles for breakfast and the more you load it the better it gets. It’s kind of a strange dichotomy.
Dude you haven’t pulled in hills with that little truck!! You keep saying it’s not struggling but I know better. Get on the highway with some wind and big trucks passing you !! It’s not safe get a truck that is for real dude
I wont claim that it will break the engine, but ill chime in on it. What you as the driver is feeling is power potential, not mechanical or thermal stress. It takes X amount of fuel to make X amount of heat (btu) to move X amount of mass over X distance within X timespan -- be it occuring in a 2.7 or 6.6. The overall difference is nearly moot. All that jargon is happening in half the area of say a 5.3, meaning 2x the heat concentration per given unit of area. Pistons, rings, valves, have to endure those heat cycles without fatigue. Also, the torque output is being imparted into the short-block via half as many main bearings, thus half the surface area to bear the pressure as a v8. With all that said, i like the 2.7 and would daily drive one with no complaints.
The only thing I see stressed in this video is that Fuel Gauge! 😅 I also do not see you towing in a mountain region. Looks pretty low key in the area where you are at and I wouldn’t mind having one as long as I didn’t have to encounter a lot of hills but if I were to tow along the Blue Ridge Mountains, 🤔 not sure if I could co-sign this vehicle Either way I wish you well with your truck and many miles to come!
😅 yep! I was going straight to the gas station too! Well test on it in the mountains out west. It may take a year or two to get there though. I need about two weeks off work to do what I want to do.
Great video except you seem to paying attention to everything but the fuel gauge. As a long time Hemi owner I was on the fence about this engine. But, if GM is extending the warranty to 5 years / 100,000 miles, why not?
I love what supercharging is able to make these smaller engines do. I have been considering maybe going with one of the TurboMax Silverado's. I currently have a 2015 1500 with the 5.3 and on paper the TurboMax seems pretty good power wise for me. Interested to see what longevity we can see from these.
Hey Jerem, quick question for you about the trailer. My wife and I are upgrading our travel trailer next year to one close to your size and weight. I have a half ton Silverado as well, 22 with the 3.0 duramax. How does the truck handle that long of a trailer? Any wind issues pushing it around? It has 690 listed hitch weight. I have her permission to upgrade to an hd truck if necessary, but if my current truck is enough, I'd like to keep it. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
I currently have a 2011 Chevy 2500HD Ext cab long bed. 6.0 V8 w/3.73 gearing. It’s my daily driver as well. For starters, it handles our 33’ travel trailer well. I don’t have anything other than sway bars because it doesn’t need a WD hitch. I told the wife I wouldn’t mind trading up for a crew cab. I have been going back and forth about getting into a 1500 or another 2500/3500 truck. Today’s engined in the half tons make more power than my 6.0 Vortec but I’m more concerned about the braking and handling on the open highway. How has your truck handled the wind out on the highway? Mine feels pretty planted but can still feel it back there for sure on a windy day.
You have a nice truck! I have a weight distribution hitch, sway bars, and Sumo Springs and those took a few times to adjust properly and get them dialed in. You can still feel the trailer move some with the windy afternoons but it’s very solid. The 6.2l has a lot more power than this truck and I’m sure is fun to drive too! I choose the 4cyl since it’s torque curve is so flat. It pulls so good!
@@jeremsgarage thank you sir, I really do love the truck. Another thing that makes me nervous about stepping down to a half ton is how well it would handle 1,000+ pounds of tongue weight. We anticipate to either keep the camper we have or go with a new one of similar size so we will still be around that 1,000# tongue weight and 7,000# empty trailer weight.
Hi Cheryl, if your truck didn’t come with a break controller from the factory, yes you will. You will need to purchase a brake controller wiring harness… here is a link to the harness for your truck. (Please make sure it fits once you click) amzn.to/42jgR3Z Then you will also need a brake controller. The one I recommend is the Tekonsha Prodigy P2. Here is a link to this one too. amzn.to/43ikf0n I installed mine on the right side of my dashboard close to my right knee. I’ll try to make a quick video of my brake controller this weekend and explain how it works. You may be tempted to buy a cheaper time based brake controller. I highly recommend this one. It is proportional and helps give excellent trailer brake performance. Thanks and I hope you have a good day!
People are stupid and stuck in the past! That engine is built like a diesel and is a big truck engine even though its a 4cyl. This is new technology! Move forward and get out of the mind you need a big block to pull anything or even a diesel (unless you are big weight and often.)
What is the tongue weight of your trailer and the payload of that truck? That is the only thing that concerns me about a half ton pulling a trailer that big.
The tongue weight is 1200 lbs per my tongue scale. The payload is 1960 ish lbs for the truck. I use a 1,400 lb weight distribution hitch and air the tires up to max PSI giving the tires over 5,000 lbs of total capacity. I’ve scaled all the weights and made adjustments to the loading to ensure my weights are good with the hitch properly adjusted. The rear springs are pretty soft from Chevy so I added the blue (1,000 lb) SumoSprings to add some rear stability that was missing. (Not using them to hold up the weight like some try to do) The thing tows like it’s on rails. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
@@jeremsgarage I have a 2020 F-150 XLT sport 2.7 eco boost 4x4 crew cab, my payload is only 1588 looking at trailers safe to tow, I was thinking 26-27 feet max, probably going to add rear airbags because my truck is leveled.
@@no1but24 I understand your situation totally. I personally choose half ton’s to tow with because of their evasive maneuver stability over their HD cousins. And their day to day unloaded manners. Unfortunately, length has very little to do with the overall stability of a rig. It is a piece but it’s a pretty small piece overall. Here is an article that helped me several years ago. I revisit it and read it often. www.rvlifemag.com/towing-half-ton-three-quarter-ton/ I hope that helps.
Hello. I just bought this truck (Silverado 1500 LT 2FL Turbomax, 4x4, 7,000lbs) about 3 weeks ago, this car is beautiful, good, strong engine. I want to buy an RV but I don't know if this vehicle can tow an RV or not? If so, what is the maximum weight of an RV? Thanks.
Greetings! You certainly can! I have towed two travel trailers with my 2022 2.7l Custom. One of them was about 7,200 lbs and my current trailer is closer to 9,000 lbs. There are two different numbers you need from some stickers on your drivers door. Look for your tire and loading sticker and get your payload rating. It will say something like “the combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed Xxxxx lbs. This is the max number of lbs your truck can carry. (People weight+ trailer tongue weight + whatever is in the bed weight) The second is the conventional trailer weight. This is the maximum trailer weight your truck is rated for. These two numbers will put you in the ballpark of what you can tow. Typically a dry weight of 5,000-7,000 lbs is a good starting weight as a ballpark number.
@@sanhly2690 yep! Kind of similar to how a F350 dual rear wheel with a GVWR 14,000 lbs can have a maximum trailer weight rating of 30k lbs. It gets better though. There are models of the 1,500 Silverado (3.0 Diesel and the 6.2l V8) that are rated to tow 13,000 lbs. a full 4K lbs higher than our trucks with the 2.7l. It’s all in the set up, mind your weights, set up the weight distribution hitch, get some experience. The truck is very capable. Probably more capable than many of its owners. Take care and be safe!
@@sanhly2690 congratulations 🎉!! I love mine! Just remember when you are searching for an RV to look at the dry weight of the RV and the GVWR of the RV. Nobody pulls an empty camper around. My camper is very heavy but I have a lot of experience towing and setting these things up. I started with a much lighter camper 10 years ago (around 6,500 lbs loaded and ready to camp, meaning the first camper was about 5,000 lbs empty). Take care and be safe!
Love it; many don't understand Low End Torque from a Turbo. And I have first Gen GMC 2.7L the 2nd Gen is 430 Pound Feet of Torque; I tow a total of 6,500 LBS that includes payload. And absolutely flawless 🏁. Jeremy please don't video in 4.10 again. Hard to watch. Many use labtop's or watching on our big LED's Like Me .lol...Thanks
Thanks for the feedback. I shot it vertical to chop it up into shorts for YT and Insta. I’ll do better next time and shoot both ways for something like this. Again, Thanks for the feedback I really appreciate it!
It is still that buzzy little 4 cylinder sound that to some is not pleasing.I have heard it doesn't get really better mileage than a V8 when towing. In fact, I have actually heard it gets worse mileage towing than a V8 when towing. It doesn't cost much less either. So what exactly is the "beauty" of this power train? I am so happy that you are thrilled with this engine and I hope it serves you well. It is just not for me.
Sure sounds like you heard a lot of things, lol. I don't get much better highway MPG than my 5.3 (2020 w/ 10 speed), but non-highway where I do 70% of my driving it's 4-5MPG better. WIth the couple of trips I've taken so far hauling 7k lbs i've gotten slightly better MPG (9.7) than I did with my 5.3 (8.9). I didn't hear that from anyone. Way too many haters out there.
The beauty is when you drive it around town not towing anything as most people will do with their trucks most of the time, you get 22mpg and if you had a V8 you'd be getting more like 14.
You are so right; had the 2019 Chevy 5.3 V8. In stop and go traffic "Miami, FL" 14-15 mpgs city. With my 2.7L the norm 18 mpg's and at times dense traffic 17mpgs. And 16 worse case scenario but rare. And my Silverado 2019 on a good day maybe would get 16 mpg's city.
I am curious if you have tested this 2.7L on a seriously long mountain climb. We have some real dandy test mountains here in British Columbia and as I am considering trading in my 2009 Chevy 5.3 with six speed tranny I am curious if this engine is the way to go! My 5.3 struggles to pull a 5,500 lb travel trailer up over any one of our mountain passes.
Great test run. I am not familiar with the Monteagle mountain highway in Tennessee but Google says 2000 foot elevation gain with 6% grades over six miles which it would appear from your video you completed in approximately 6 to 7 minutes at a temperature of 72 degrees F. Our mountain passes here in the west are inclined to be higher than in the east. For example, the Coquihalla highway east bound from Hope, BC starts at 672 feet above sea level and climbs to 6,370 feet with 8% grades for a distance of 24 miles. While I have absolutely no doubt the Chevy 2.7L high output turbo engine would make the climb, I do have concerns about what transmission and engine oil temperatures would be during the summer when daytime temperatures can reach the mid to high 80’s??
Old riddle, gradeschool: How many pancakes does it take to cover a doghouse? Answer: One, if it's big enough. Good for you, Jerem. Relax. They'll never get it.
@@bakercito723 hi! I live in Tennessee and haven't made it out west with it yet. Hopefully we will next year. If I had the time I'd go tomorrow and let y'all know.
We have a 23 1500 2.7 it's a company truck and it's not bad, it doesn't have tow haul mode or anything but it does get up and go I just don't know why I'd buy 2.7 instead of the 5.3
The real difference is in towing. This 2.7l pulls a trailer like a diesel. The 5.3l is still having lifter and cam issues which the 2.7l doesn't have. But the 5.3l has the V8 sound some people have to have.
I’m waiting for a few more years to see how it holds up I saw a review of one with 35000 on it he hasn’t had any problems yet and this guy doesn’t know either if or when it will happen although he seems pretty butt hurt I’m guessing his friends have poked fun at him for this truck
The way a small boosted motor makes the torque to pull heavy loads at low rpms is by stuffing copious amounts of air and fuel into the combustion chamber. The pressures and heat generated by that are much higher than a naturally aspirated engine. Making power isn't free. Using a small motor to make big horsepower and torque numbers will stress the engine. However if the motor is truly built to handle the increased pressures you can probably get away with working it hard perioeically. I have the 3.5 ecoboost and it's very diesel like in it's torque delivery, rated to pull over 11K pounds, however I wouldn't pull that much weight on a frequent basis.....It's still only a half ton.
I will gladly explain, high cylinder pressures will catch up to you eventually when your always in boost cause your towing. The v8 may need some more rpm due to being naturally aspirated and where they make power, but with proper maintence the v8 will last longer. The 2.7 isn't a bad engine, but the way it's definitely working harder to produce the power it makes compared to the v8. Engines are air pumps, their displacement is the amount of air it can pump. More air = more power. The bigger engine will always have the ability to make more power. If a bigger engine is making the same numbers as a smaller engine, the bigger engine is not working as hard to do so. Compare the dyno graph of the v8 as opposed to the 4 cylinder shown here. The v8 makes a much nicer average power up to peak while the 4 cylinder does not and its peaky. The v8 is superior in its power producing capability, GM just has them set where they must to appease the epa/cafe. Less stress = better longevity so the v8 is the winner in which engine will last longer towing and properly maintained. Sorry 2.7 guys
@@DurtyDiezel lol… 😂 you must have different charts than us 2.7l guys. Max torque from 1500-4500 rpm just about dead flat like a diesel. I’ve owned both the V8 and the 2.7l and my 2.7l out performs it as a towing engine. Sounds like a Honda, but I didn’t buy it for the sound. As to the cylinder pressure, engine gonna blow at any moment type comment. This is the sixth model year going into the seventh. There are so many examples with 150-250k now that just prove how durable this engine is. Theory is good but put it to the test. These engines just keep working. It may sound like a Honda, but it is NOT a Honda commuter car engine. You have fallen for the numerical fallacy. You count the liters and the cylinders and assume it’s a junk engine. You are incorrect.
I think you're doing great with that truck...it's just you're suspension..added a overload springs or get airbags..change out your rear axles gear oil,use Amsoil gear oil
Wait my friends a freight broker and he told me I couldn’t tow 8k lbs. he said my max was 5600 in this truck I have a 2019 2.7 Silverado. Please help and break this down for me please. Looking for some extra $ on weekends
When the 2.7l came out in 2019 it did have a lower tow rating. But after a year or so GM actually upped the rating (without changing the truck) because of how robust the cooling system is. Here is an article that talks about it in more detail. My trucks tow rating is 9,200 lbs. gmauthority.com/blog/2020/09/2021-chevrolet-silverado-gets-increased-towing-capacity-with-these-two-engines/
For everyone mocking this engine for it being potentially unreliable compared to a 5.3 or a 6.2... have you owned one of these lifter eating pieces of crap Chevy has been putting out the last 10 years? I HAVE...
In truth this particular 2.7l isn't small. For 4 cylinder in this 2.7 intake it's leaning into a big block 4 cylinder. 2.7 is kinda big for a v6. So a 4 ya, it's a big 4 cylinder. Pull the head and look at that block and cylinder size. It's a big ole engine.
Lol I came from a 4.2L I6 in an old Envoy. Now that was a big 6 cylinder. 2.7 is small for a v6, that's less than 0.5L/cylinder. The 2.7 I4 is essentially half the displacement of the of the 5.3L V8, making up for it's lower displacement with the turbo.
@berto1014 True true, but the stroke is huge on the 2.7I4. That's where the tourqe comes from. Huge crank spins from that long stroke. Never seen that in a 4 cylinder b4. Compress the intake air for abit more force to slam that kinda stroke down. The boost is there but its not huge. With out that stroke the turbo wouldn't make this engine that much stronger.
I just want a new good truck. I only want to tow a mini skid steer every now and then when i rent it from HD> other than that i will just be hauling my Gf big a**..lol
@@salamancadingding I had a fuel injector fail about 500 miles from home. Other than that it's been pretty good. It gets GREAT MPG and when I hook the trailer to it, it becomes a towing beast. I really love it. I do need to change the plugs and it's time to change the transmission fluid and rear axle fluid. I'm going to try and do that before my next big tow next month.
@@jeremsgarage fuel injector failure, that ain't terrible, here I thought you were gonna say the transmission fell out 🤣 I tow a trailer with mine and it does great. My current trailer is only 3500lbs and I'll soon be getting something in the 6000lb range. Judging by your towing results I don't think I'll have ANY issues! This 2.7 turbo is a little monster!
@@salamancadingding You will be just fine with 6,000 lbs! If you watch my towing video over Monteagle that was with our previous travel trailer that weighed about 7,200 ish when we pulled it. I joke that truck could rip the trailer frame out from under the travel trailer :). It is such a good towing engine.
This Engine is built with with Diesel durability in mind, from the Duramax as per the Engineer of GM. Now you won't here him talk about it in this video link I attached. What I like about this engine; if some major parts were to fail, you simply swap then out as you would an oil filter or a Thermostat. Making it easy process no major mechanics involved. And the main components are on the sides of the engine, not behind it or internally. Very close to the Duramax. Over sized pistons/rod and chain. As this engineer mentions in other videos. In-fact open the hood of a 3.0 Duramax and you would think their the same engines, the Duro being just slightly longer and Turbo is for display due to it size. u-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JLxeBzrhOHQ.html
It does not have the NHT package. For 2022 that wasn’t available in the 2.7l. I wish it was. I’ve added a few things that would be included though. Like a trailer Brake controller, stiffening the rear suspension. The receiver is the same as the NHT though and is rated for close to 1400 lbs.
Even the 4 cylinder Ford Pinto back in the day or the Chevy Chevette would boggity boggity new off the showroom. A three cylinder Geo Metro could haul the max passengers and run the roads all peppy like with low miles. But put some normal wear and tear miles on them, and they turn to a throw away vehicle. What we want to see is these 2.7L turbo GM full size trucks that are treated like TRUCKS with 120,000 and still doing what it is at 10,000 miles without a new turbo, engine rebuild, or grenaded transmission. It is too soon to declare a win yet on this truck and engine combo. Age and mileage when we expect 150k-200k out of a drivetrain before major repairs on a truck being used like a truck. You are almost declaring a victory like these EV car owners have been doing until their batteries fail and the battery replacement cost is higher than what the car is worth if the batteries were still good. We could see full parking lots of Silverado's and Sierra's with dead 2.7 turbos waiting on turbos and new engine blocks in five to six years. Or we may see them being the new dependable workhorses making little Miz Greta the activist happy.
Agree on the EV's. Thanks for the comment. Yea, there are a LOT of these 2.7l's out there with 100k plus miles. The engine hit the public roads in 2018 as a 2019 model year. Just a quick search on Car Guru's shows several with 130-150k plus miles. I watch the forums very closely and there are Tons and Tons of these trucks out doing work. Most people who use them love them. Many are coming from V8's or the 3.0 Duramax and just want more reliability and less emissions concerns. Says something that people are coming to the 2.7l for MORE durability. Especially with the ongoing lifter debacle for the 5.3 and the 6.2l and the emissions concerns with the 3.0 Diesel. I have over 30k on my truck now. Zero plans to replace it or anything like that. Still running like a top with first class maintenance performed by your's truly. Any failures happen I will for sure let the people know.
Just drove a 2.3L Ford Ranger turbo from Knoxville, TN to Reno, NV, driving West on I-70 / I-80 and back East on US-50. Engine has 60,000 miles on it. Ran 65 to 80 MPH, engine only pulling 1600 to 2100 RPM, going up 6%+ grades in 10th gear, no gear dropping or hunting at all. Ran as high as 11,300+ ft on US-50 in CO. Never hit higher passing RPM than 3000, easily pulling away from the big V8's on the upgrades. The V8's were screaming at higher RPM trying to keep up, especially at 8000+ ft elevations. The little turbo 4's are going to easily outlast the big V8's, because the little engines are just loafing at low RPM at highway speeds, due to the incredibly high torque at low RPM. I do think Ford is going to have major problems with their turbo V6's durability because the V6 is a mechanically weaker engine design than an inline 4. Example: Chevy's 2.7 L inline 4 turbo has the same bottom end, crankshaft strength and 5 main bearings as a 5.4L V8. Ford's 2.7L V6 turbo has the bottom end, crankshaft and 4 main bearings of a 1.35L 3 cylinder. Which design will tolerate 400+ ft pounds of torque best, in your opinion?
I was watching the gas gauge more than anything else. lol. But highly considering the 2.7L Turbo I'm not a big fan of spending a lot of money for extra features I don't need. I just need a truck that can do the job.
It depends on my speed. Typically about 9-10 MPG Towing. Here is a video I made on the topic. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GVDxUGmM8uI.html
@@thomaspuma434 good luck with your search! I found one that is nicely optioned but it’s black! They’re gorgeous when they’re clean but show everything lol
Ha ha…here is me towing in the mountains. Lol lol lol. 4 banger Silverado towing 9,000 lbs in the Mountains? Part 1 the pull up! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wzE8XXNFiUw.html
