Game Producer Claims You Need "Consent" From Fictional Characters 

Imagine thinking fictional characters have human rights and should be treated like real human beings 💀

As a bisexual woman, I hate the term "male gaze". I looked up Ashley's skirt all the time when I played RE4 at 13, and I do it at least once per playthrough. Women can be just as pervy toward hot fictional girls as men can.

I'll never understand how people can be more disturbed by ecchi than violence and gore.

The fact they used 2B as an example of a character you can’t peak up the skirt of, as if you can’t quite literally rip the skirt away with the press of two buttons is actually wild

If fictional characters need consent then killing fictional enemies should be charged as murder.

We live in a world where people emphasize with fictional characters more than real people

This seems like a very roundabout version of the “videogames cause violence” argument

Capcom: Fan Service is completely removed! Modders: Allow us to introduce ourselves

"Idiots are mad you can't look up Ashley's skirt" Modders about to make all sort of skimpy and Bunnygirl costumes for Ashely: "Yes"

The justice department needs to arrest Bowser for kidnapping Princess Peach. Protect fictional characters!

Idiot producer: A character needs to give consent for you do that. Checkmate weirdos! R34 artist: I drew them all giving consent. It's also really stupid when the use "it's not realistic" excuse for Ashely's old outfit, but have no problem using a knife to guard a chainsaw.

"I'm not going to die on the hill of fanservice." Yeah, they know that. That's why they target it. It's a way to get their foot in the door and eventually take control.

If you need 'consent' for fanservice, they need to pay the characters -- not the voice actors -- the CHARACTERS directly for their acting and participation in their media. I guarantee you, Ashley will not be getting a check for this game. She is not given employment rights. Sitting around pretending that law applies to them is ridiculous, and they know this.

The video game industry SHOULD mature... towards artistic freedom.

Twitter will always treat real people like they're fictional characters and fictional characters like they're real people

“Teenage-coded” These “journalists” want SO badly for gamers to be violent predators that they’ll insist an adult is actually a child. Why? It’s freaking creepy. Stop infantilizing adult women. Stop acting like fictional characters are real. Ffs am I crazy for thinking this whole thing is weird af?

It’s not about being a coomer or a perv, it’s about censorship. It starts with fanservice, then it’s violence and language, then it spirals out of control until our favorite media is completely unrecognizable.

Imagine giving fictional the same rights as real people. Its these kinds of people that can't distinguish between fiction and reality. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna be admiring 2Bs 1 million polygon cheeks.

I murdered a family of 3 in a recent AAA video game. Not even casually. They invited me into their living room, and I just butchered them down one by one. It felt dark and wrong, and a side character tried to cope with the fact by trying to justify it. But the game being so aware of the psychology of it was a testament of how much love and care went into it, and what it rewarded was my curiosity and having the guts to remember "No Russian". It was a profound, visceral, low-key traumatic experience, kind of like when I naively let a tabletop RPG character of mine get raped by an NPC. It was an important life lesson for me. And I think this is the real value of playing games since the dawn of time: To mess around and find out in a safe sandbox environment.

It's honestly amazing how you can pick out the crazies by how they utilize specific phrases and words, like "-coded".

Meanwhile, Yoko Taro just ask everyone to make a file of 2B doujin and fan art for easy access

You'd have to be severely chronically online if you believe that *fictional* characters from *fictional* worlds in any *fictional* media have any human rights.

I think the funniest part of this, is that if A.I. ever become sentient, you KNOW those same people won't be wanting to give them rights.

You notice they have a lot to say about the 2B achievement, but not a peep of complaint about the achievement for making 9S run around in his underwear for an hour. Funny, that.

"This is why I hated 2Bs design" - Guy that worked in Japan. Meanwhile Yoko Taro's still having money shoved in his face so people can put 2B into their game.

Gaming journalists try not to complain about gamers liking fictional characters (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)

''Not being able to look up characters' skirts is a win.'' Wait until you find out that despite the original artists not making such content, the users/fans might...

Here's the thing: they aren't just removing what is offensive to them. They then fill the void with wokeness. I don't care if they remove panty shots but don't ruin golden era games with wokeness.

Fictional characters are what you imagine them to be, so just imagine they consented. Done.

"Excuse me Ma'am.. I don't want to be disrespectful but is it ok for me to look at some tasteful rule 34 of your character? Oh, it's a no? Alright I'll be on my way then. Have a good day" -is what these people imagine probably

It's felt like the world went insanely prudish the last few years.

I asked all fictional characters ever and they all said yes.

As much as I would like to hang out with my favorite characters and for them to be real, they aren't. We've really come full circle to this haven't we? From having normies telling geeks/nerds/otaku etc that our waifus (and other characters) aren't real to normies having to be told the same thing. Weird how life works that way

Treating people like objects and objects like people!? What a wonderful world we live in!

My biggest problem with REmake is voice direction for Ash, Krauser and Ada. Especially Ada is acting like she's playing hard to get towards Leon, who clearly isn't interested. In the original she was playfully flirting with him because she still felt like she owes him for Racoon City, she's intrigued by his survival skills and impressed of how much progress he's made since their last meeting, easily outfighting her despite being caught by surprise. New Ada is all over the place and has 0 chemistry with Leon, which is a shame since I liked these 2, especially their moment together in RE6. As for consent debate - you've said everything. Fictional characters have no rights, if they do then everyone who plays Siege or any other game where you play cops and robbers must be put in jail.

The only people who really have any say over the NSFW scene is the commissioners and the people who make the characters to the degree where they just say they don't want to see NSFW of one of their characters on official discords, Reddit, or something along those lines. That's about it.

SO real life child drag shows are FINE, real life murder of babies are fine, apparently "MAPS" are fine now too. But an up skirt of a fictional character in a video game is crossing the line? These people Need to be institutionalized.

Bro I got bullied for thinking these anime girls were real and now the moment I'm certain that theyre fake I'm being harassed again lmao

They were perving on mods that took Leon's shirt off. There is no consistency.

I never really cared about the Ashley changes since I'm mostly in it for the story and action. That being said, people really need to learn the difference between reality and fiction because holy crap that whole consent thing hurt my brain.

The fact that the devs nerfed the ballistics on the female characters is a crime.

in Nier replicant there's also achievement for looking up Kaine's dress called Daredevil. After 10 times of swatting you away and insulting you for being a creep, Kaine kills you- she attacks the camera itself and its great.

I really thought that the world would be worrying about robot consent before fictional character consent.

Western game journalists have been complaining about Japanese fanservice for like 20 years now. It ramped up when Microsoft and more Western devs got into the industry.

I'm just mad they removed the RE4 line "I've sent my right hand to dispose of you." "Your right hand comes off?" Sad times

Actually... thinking about this concept of 'fictional character consent' as these people are approaching it. They can't consent to being lewded... so the presumption is that it isn't allowed. However, they also can not consent to participation in the production of a violent video game... so can't put them in any of those. They also can't consent to being subjected to horror themes... so ditch those as well. They also cannot consent to having a camera following them around constantly... so they can't be visible in video games. All the NPCs? Also not consenting to cameras coming into their world and recording them. So basically, if fictional characters need to consent for people to lewd them... they should need to consent to appearing in a game. Since it is literally impossible for fictional characters to consent to anything, then they should be banned entirely. But that also needs to propagate to other media. Superman? He is fictional. Doesn't matter what actor plays him... the character 'superman' cannot consent, and therefore no further movies/comics of him should be produced. The entire MCU - gone. Everything made by Disney - vanish. Cartoon network? Wiped. The only thing left, documentaries, histories, and reality TV. Wait... wait... history is out, since none of them are alive to consent. Good number of documentaries as well... can only do them about living people, played by those people. Down to just reality TV... except, one could say people 'ham it up' for the show. So technically, those are fictional characters that cannot consent... because the person playing that character is not actually that character. So, let's just annihilate the entire entertainment industry. That solves the consent problem.

I'd argue that the 2B achievement is actually important in that it's an early confirmation that androids, no matter what model, have emotions and can respond emotionally rather than rationally.

It’s funny how quickly people are to give rights to drawings before they would give rights to living people

"I worked in Japan" No. No you didn't. If you were working with a Japanese game company and made these idiotic complaints, you would have been laughed out of the building. Guaranteed.

Shooting and killing people in game should be far worse then looking up a skirt in game, but hardly nobody is complaining about that.

Hollywood is now starting to learn that catering their shows/movies to a loud but mostly broke audience is not a viable business model. Let's see how well it goes for game developers..

Can someone please tell how the bloody hell do you ask consent from a fictional character? Are we seriously focusing on this instead of... y'know... REAL WORLD PROBLEMS?! Just... Just reset the world please! This is getting absurd!

I can't even finish this. Not because your coverage is bad, because it's great, but just the fact that people like this exist... I can't even. I'm packing my things and moving to the moon.

I honestly cringe whenever people use the term "male gaze" whenever they talk about fanservice because it implies that whatever fanservice is present exists purely for men. I've seen plenty of women on the internet (especially Vtubers)who have lusted after attractive fictional characters and have done so very openly, especially female characters. Heck there are times when fanservice pops up in something like manga, people automatically assume it was a man who did it when in reality it was drawn /created by a female artist.

If it's important enough for them to remove something, then it is important enough for others to question WHY it was removed!

If u can't separate fictional from reality then you have a problem 💯

Game producer: You need the fictional characters consent to do anything lewd Me: *goes onto character AI* Game producer: Wait no

Honestly this type of stuff makes me want to be a game designer EXCLUSIVELY so that I can have characters say "by the way I'm very okay with people making smut of me :)" simply to make these kinds of people cry harder. Wish more people could just chill and have fun with their fiction (emphasis on fiction)

This is the same guy that said "Most Japanese games aren't very good" back in 2012, WHILE WORKING FOR PLATINUM GAMES, pay him absolutely zero mind whatsoever

I'm a woman... And I like looking up the skirts of video game women. I like looking at both men and women in a naughty manner. I don't see what's wrong wit looking at pixels/polygons.

*Draws fictional character giving consent*

"Teenage-coded" almost has the same energy as "underaged 21-year-old"...

Person gets mad about 2B. Yoko Taro likes his characters because they are cute and he publicly said so. He even answered a question of 2B being capable of reproducing. Also, I like how no one mentions Kaine because she is pretty much running around in underwear, next to a kid before he grows up, and she also has the "up-skirt" achievement at the cost of loading to your last save point, if you saved.

Hearing Rev saying “TAKE YOUR MEDS” at 16:08 up close was so funny XD

Remember when _they_ were the ones saying to _us_ that we needed to understand the difference between reality and fiction? How the turn tables...

This is exactly why the modding community is needed in these darkest of times

The idea that a player trying to look up a character's skirt would cause real world problems, always makes me think of stuff like the Satanic from the 1980s about metal music.

Anytime anybody says something like, "You need consent from a drawing", you just have to hit em with 🤓

These "professional" gaming journalist stared into the sun for to long and it fried their brain to the point that they think fictional characters need human rights. Ya that sounds about right.

Cant believe once again i have to quote spongebob: CALM DOWN SON, ITS JUST A DRAWING, NOT THE REAL THING

Game Journos: Ashley fan-service bad. Also Game Journos: Check out these Mods for Leon in a thong for REmake 2!! I don’t really care about the lack of fan-service the game is exceptional but if Game Journos are gonna get pissy and gloatful, then they can go to Hell.

You know the ironic thing is that the same people would be calling Chris Chan crazy for pretending fictional characters have rights.

"You need consent" Call the cops then.

They aren't psychopaths, but rather sociopaths. Because sociopaths will always try to turn everything into what they can control.

our question to them: How do you ask consent to a code and data? so we are giving human rights to fictional characters?

Thank you for coverage o7

Ashley was great, her being eye candy gave her lasting popularity. 2B was the reason why many people bought Nier.

I'm very mad that they censored Ashley's best assets; Her big, massive, absolutely adorable ears.

When it’s supposed to be rated M but has censorship 😂😂 we became as a joke in the u.s. 😂😂😂

Here's a revelation: If people play a game with a character whom they find cute/attractive, they are gonna stare at them. It's not evil, it's simple human nature. No one is being harmed. No rights are being violated. Fan service is just the result of people being honest with themselves and devs choosing to have fun with it. You can demonize human nature all you want, but people are still gonna feel the way they do. Save your empathy for real people who are being targeted by real creeps.

22:01 I'm translating this from Twitter talk: "If you are trans and play this game, you ain't trans in my eyes." Remind me who's the real transphobic here? "Your clear attempt to use us for clout and throw us under the bus the moment we aren't useful to you" HOLY MOTHER OF PROJECTION RIGHT HERE 💀

The “Zero days without nonsense” meme hits different now

I love how they did the skirt thing in Nier Replicant: Kaine straight up murders the cameraman if you test your luck 10 times 😂

blood, gore, drugs, distubing content, death - completely fine fan service - no we must ban, censor, remove, etc right this instant.

"you need to gain consent from fictional characters" I don't want to live in this planet anymore

We are reaching levels of dumb not thought possible. Then again... It's Twitter, even Tumblr at it's worst wasn't this stupid.

If fictional characters have rights, I'm pretty sure I should be serving consecutive life sentences for all the video game characters I've killed.

Censorship apologists always want to have it both ways. They dismiss anyone who likes the censored content by saying it's such a trivial detail, then immediately turn around and say it's such an important detail that it NEEDS to be censored. It can't be both. Either it is important, in which case we get to say the same thing about preserving the content. Or it's not important, in which case you have no reason to remove it. It has to be one or the other.

I will say it every time "coded" is code word for "Not at all but I want you to think it is" I really hate people using that word.

We live in a world where we as living being must give consent to FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. Characters that are not real, these people seriously need a reality check. Also, removing fanservice should be a crime, how dare they.

The best part is you can totally ignore idiots who claim fictional characters have rights or need or can grant consent. Don't even validate these idiots by interacting with them. Just ignore them.

I swear to God before I saw this video on my feed, I was thinking that if I were a creator, I would put a disclaimer, "All my characters consent, so do what you want, just don't let me see it."

The fun part about that feature was that it was a secret regarding the outfits, when the game launched in the early 2000's only a few knew about that secret to earn the different outfits for all characters (3 each if I recall), each one with different kinks. Ex. Ashley's Armored outfit, which makes her immortal to all, even the zombies can't lift her to kidnapped her because the armour is too heavy. A guy posted the differences in the outfits and the different reactions from Ashley to Leon, one of them was catching Ashley on the ladders, there, he found that when you try to look up on Ashley she hides her panties and calls him a pervert, a normal reaction and a good feature, because it shows how Ashley is very innocent and girly. But on her other cowgirl outfit, she is wearing bell pants and a top vest, when you look up on the ladders, she doesn't react the same way, because there is nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of, and the armoured outfit was my favorite because when she jumps off the ladders and Leon catches her, the camera shakes, Leon throws his knee to the ground due to the armour's weight and when he's standing up, he grabs his back like saying how painful that was. I think the real think that bothers me about those things being deleted is that they don't care about those details anymore and they just want to emphazise the cool rendering and graphics, I still need to finish the game to see if they put extra post-game stuff, so far I love the game.

When "male gaze" is brought up, you know it's going to be a disingenuous argument.

lol I actually do try to look up characters' skirts or whatever they're wearing in any 3D game. For various reasons. Some, but not all include: - To see if it's possible - Check how much detail they put into something the player normally can't see - Maybe check out an easter egg if there's any (like 2B dodging the camera if you stare for too long) Yes, I do this with male characters as well. Tho I usually don't do it since if they're not wearing skirts or anything that don't fully cover their legs, it's almost certain that there's nothing modeled there. Which is disappointing. Not a lot of good underpant representation in games. And going back to RE4, it was extremely self-aware. Fitted right in with the corny humor of the game. You had to go out of your way to make it possible since the camera really didn't gave much room to look around freely. There's even a special interation that if you suplex an enemy in a position that made Leon stare directly up Ashley, she would cuss at him, even if the camera is looking down at them and not allowing the player to see the same as Leon.

"You need a Fictional character's consent before you can gaze at them lecherously" Right, and how in the hell are they going to respond? It's like these idiots are the ones who can't tell reality from fiction so they just make everything reality.

If someone tells you a fictional character needs to give consent, simply draw that character giving consent. Easy. 😂

Need that "Take your meds" as a clip to send to every twitter user.

People starving in other countries and dying in unfair conditions watching us trying to make sure imaginary people are imaginarily safe, happy, and secure: 👁️👄👁️

this is why I wish I was good at drawing. I would literally draw any character holding their license and saying "I'm 18+ and I consent" just to spite those freaks