Gary Lee Conner | Screaming Trees, Mark Lanegan, and Beyond - Bee Sound Podcast #02

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In this episode I had the privilege of speaking with one of my guitar heroes Gary Lee Conner, a founding member of the Screaming Trees. Along with Gary's brother Van Conner on bass, Mark Pickerel behind the drums, and Mark Lanegan with his classic vocals The Screaming Trees went on to find Major label success with their single "Nearly Lost You" in the early 1990's. In this episode we discuss classic Screaming Trees, from their humble beginnings to their years on SST Records, and onto Sony. We discuss things like how he came to work with Mike McCready of Pearl Jam and Layne Staley of Alice in Chains as well as how Mark Lanegan may have lost the master tapes to The Screaming Trees earlier works.
We also discuss Gary's latest solo releases which you can check out here: garyleeconner.bandcamp.com/
Also Gary Lee Conner has a fantastic RU-vid page with modern performances as was as a treasure trove of unreleased Screaming Trees tracks which you can look for here: / microdotgnome
Gary Lee Conner is an American musician who was the lead guitarist of alternative rock act Screaming Trees. His brother Van Conner was the band’s bassist. Conner began his career with Screaming Trees in 1985, and played with them until their disbanding in 2000. During that time he released non-Trees music: The Purple Outside-Mystery Lane (1990 New Alliance Records), with brother Patrick Conner on drums, and the single “Grasshopper’s Daydream/Behind The Smile” (1999 Sub Pop), featuring Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age.
Conner played on Beat Happening's "Indian Summer" and "Midnight a Go-Go," from Jamboree. He also contributed to "Against the 70s," from Mike Watt's Ball-Hog or Tugboat? (1995 Columbia Records).
After ten years of seclusion, Conner released an album from his band Microdot Gnome. 4D Sugarcubes was released on Moonbus International Recordings in April 2010. He is planning future releases from the band. In August 2016, Conner released a solo album, Ether Trippers, on Strange Earth Records.
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@DanBee 3 года назад

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@suicideheadaches4460 2 года назад

now can you do his brother van and mark?

@DanBee 2 года назад

@Suicide headaches would love to and working on it.

@monicanv69 2 года назад

Mark Lanegan died 3 months ago, sorry. It wasn't a drug overdose. When he died it says he was battling Covid 19 and kidney disease.

@joylane2960 2 года назад

Dan you wouldn't also happen to have a big collection of rare Trees stuff as well would you? Thanks.

@TheGameBeaters 2 года назад

@@joylane2960 I have a decent Trees collection and have what I think is everything they released on CD but nothing more rare than that.

@commandermark5254 22 дня назад

First time I heard about George Drakoulias was the Beasties shout out on Stop That Train. He was around Def Jam in the early days. I love this shit.

@user-nr2td7jl8c 2 месяца назад

There simply was no making Mark happy. He had a grudge against the world and everything in it from the get-go. From the tone of his book, he pegged Gary as some mama's boy weirdo basement dweller, when in reality Gary's songwriting was Marks "ticket out" of the small town he so hated. Trees were a great band - the best thing that came out of the Seattle scene in the early-mid 90's, IMHO and Gary seems like a cool, approachable guy in this interview. I'd love to hear some new stuff he's been working on.

@Thomas-px2lh 8 месяцев назад

It's great that he stayed a fan of Mark's solo work. Classy. Nice interview.

@DanBee 8 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@mariahale5304 4 месяца назад

I love this man, I could listen to him speak all day. Legend!

@genxalternative3111 Год назад

Van Conner passed away recently, R.I.P. It's sad so many musicians of the Seattle scene are no longer with us thinking it wasn't that too long ago. It kinda makes you miss that time of your life all the more.

@scottbutkowski5803 2 месяца назад

Oh man, I'm really sorry to hear that.

@barkworm 2 года назад

I came here after reading Lanegan‘s biography because I wanted to know what this guy was like. It was a very pleasant surprise! He seems very sweet and talkative, totally unlike he is described in the book (which I‘m sure wasn‘t Lanegan lying about but simply another side of Conner). My favourite part is the one where Lee says that it was an honour for him having one of his favourite singers sing all those songs he wrote. That moment felt so genuine and respectful.

@DanBee 2 года назад

In Lanegans final book he mentioned how hard he was on Lee and regrets the way he came across in the book.

@truthseeker1532 Год назад

Absolutely. I thought he would be a jerk for sure! I’m sure Mark needed to get some stuff off his chest before he could have some real perspective

@hangingon Год назад

Lee was also in his early 20 while Mark was older. I believe Mark mentions the age gap, and obvious drug use, that caused issues.

@douglasbagshaw9121 Год назад

Yeah that book was heavy. Dealing with a full on junky would of been horrible for everyone.

@nesfan8 Год назад

@@hangingon I think you got the brothers confused. Gary was born in 1962, while Mark was born in 1964. Van Conner was born in 1967 tho

@elizabethmoyer3807 2 года назад

I grew up in Ellensburg and went to school with Lee, Van and Mark so I know first hand how wonderful the Conner family are. Mark had his issues and demons which made it hard on all of the other band members and crew. Don't get me wrong Mark was always sweet to me but I'd hear all the tour stories both good and bad from my then boyfriend of 16 years who was the Trees light man and his brother that was their sound man. To read Marks book broke my heart. The Conner brothers made a lot of sacrifices for the band in the name of thier music. They truly didn't deserve the negativity thrown at them or about them in the book.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your story here. It means a lot. Just with my limited time speaking with Lee and a little with Van online I would agree with you here.

@joylane2960 2 года назад

Liz I would love to ask you a few things being I have always been a huge Trees/Conner/Lanegan fan. Going on many decades...> But your connection to the Doaks of course, that is what is unique. I did tape trading with Trees stuff years ago and connected with someone who I believe may have also been connected with the Doaks. They gave me some really rare unreleased Trees recordings that nobody else has I can assure you. Since they were on tapes I just put them away because you know how tapes will get ruined with usage over time. Then there's the issue with what Rod Doak did with pirated Trees unreleased rare material and peddling it online and pocketing people's money (including mine). I'm about as close to this band as possible too without being from Washington state. But I connected with everyone from this amazing band (through friends of family or themselves) years ago in some good/some bad ways :P ...> I would love to talk to you some more though.

@satorified1612 Год назад

They paid the price for having that classic whiskey-voice as their lead singer.

@nezz42 Месяц назад

Loved this interview. Very cool to hear Lee's perspective on some Trees stories, especially having read Mark Lanegan's and Barrett Martin's books. I grew up in the Tree's hometown of Ellensburg and always looked up to those guys.

@jcdova29 3 месяца назад

Lee is a cool dude. I have always been a fan of his guitar playing and his energy on stage. Glad he is still happily married and doing fine. Keep rocking Lee!!!

@jcdova29 11 месяцев назад

Good to see Lee content with his career. They got to tour the world and obviously they made amazing albums. I enjoy watching RU-vid shows of the Trees rocking. They were a good band and live they sounded great. RIP Mark and Van.

@DanBee 8 месяцев назад

Totally with you here. Thanks for watching

@jasonm.donovan8097 2 месяца назад

Fantastic interview. The Screaming Trees/Das Damen/Superchunk at St. Andrew's Hall in Detroit 1991 were basically my first concert past Detroit Symphony Orchestra performances in my teen years. The Trees did an in-store appearance at the time of their 1991 concert at Neptune Records in Royal Oak, MI. I still have my (blue vinyl) LP of Buzz Factory signed by Van, Lee Conner and Mark Lanegan from then. Thanks for this interview.

@johnnypk1963 2 месяца назад

Really enjoyed this interview, especially after Lanegans book. Well done Dan

@danabomb100 3 года назад

I stumbled across this not being a big ST fan (only knew the popular stuff) but happened to read Lanegan’s book - by way of being a huge Layne Staley & AIC fan. I must say the picture Mark painted is nothing like who is in this interview….and kuddos to Conner for being a class act when mentioning Mark. This has definitely sparked my interest into listening to more of the music he has been producing. Thanks for a great interview!

@DanBee 3 года назад

Right? Mark kind of painted Gary as a grumpy curmudgeon in the book but he was nothing but open and friendly with me here. The screaming trees have a vast and awesome catalog. Best to you on your journey with their music!

@davidleewrath6919 3 года назад

@@DanBee During the very bad heroin tour of Dust, he only praised Homme and didn't have good things to say about the rest of the band. Not sure why, they were insanely good. It's pretty amazing the band put up with so much and that Lanegan didn't die back then. And he had plenty of chances to do so.

@ladygodiva4141 2 года назад

@@davidleewrath6919 exactly. At what point did mark think he was a pleasure to work with at any point during that era 😂

@davidleewrath6919 2 года назад

@@ladygodiva4141 Right. He even had Homme with him when he was trying to score some heroin, and the dealers thought Homme was an undercover cop, and things got very nasty.

@davidleewrath6919 2 года назад

@@ladygodiva4141 Not to mention he'd have been dead or imprisoned way before stardom, but the Conner family gave him a job. He should be a little more thankful and less of an asshole.

@TheRiverRiseII 3 года назад

Nice to see Dan Bee is knowledgable and doing the homework on Gary Lee's work. Definitely a cool and informative interview.

@DanBee 3 года назад

Didn't even have to do much homework. l've loved and been following Gary's work for years. Glad you got some good value out of it too!

@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods 2 года назад

Gary’s the cool Art Teacher who gave everyone A’s and let you go outside and smoke.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Lol gotta like that.

@loriwippel6574 2 года назад

Grew up with Lee in Eburg. His dad was my elementary school principal. Lee was always a quiet person. But apparently after school hours his real life existed. He should be proud to be one of very very few to get out and succeed at his craft. Jeff Wippel says hello. You look the same minus side burns. I enjoy listening to guys and keep going Lee!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Very cool story. Appreciate you sharing it here with us fans.

@joylane2960 2 года назад

Lori do you have any other things to share in your connection with Lee or the conner family? Present or past or both :)?

@andrew.a.mcgovernmalpc1588 2 месяца назад

The Connor brothers are the most underrated musicians of the 90’s. Pure talent.

@ericburness3116 3 месяца назад

Really enjoyed this interview! Gary is so chill. Gotta love any interview when the interviewer is so clearly a fan. Good stuff!

@DanBee 3 месяца назад

Yes, big fan here. Glad you enjoyed it too!

@neverbettercanada 2 года назад

his room is just like mark describes it lol

@cdonovantech 2 года назад

You read my mind

@joshuayettou9032 Год назад

Hahaha. I was thinking the same thing. I've listened to Mark's memoir probably over 15 times in it's entirety and I can almost memorize it by heart. It's a fantastic book. The audiobook is especially awesome cause Mark's voice really adds a lot to it.

@shannonpatrick77 Год назад

Ha Haa yeah it is

@andrewconrad2859 Год назад

Yep. First thing I thought.

@DanBee Год назад

Thought so here too. Which I loved to see. It’s great Lee knows what he loves and surrounds himself with it.

@rockers2rockers616 2 месяца назад

Great interview and insights to the workings of this band. Especially songwriting.

@robertguier8569 2 года назад

the trees made believe rock could be good again. i was a metal head in the 80's. when i heard a friend play the sweet oblivion album after it came out, i picked up a guitar and learned how to play just so i could cover their songs, they instantly resonated with me.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Before we started recording I was telling Gary I learned to play guitar to nevermind and Sweet Oblivion using tab books. He said that was cool and that he doesn’t know how to read tab.

@davidleewrath6919 3 года назад

Gary's great and super comfortable from the start. Great job.

@DanBee 3 года назад

He was really warm and fun to speak with. Hope to do it again someday.

@mortimer81 2 года назад

Great interview! Being a big ST fan since late 90s this is one the best (probably the best!) interviews I've ever seen with one of these guys! I just discovered Gary's solo albums and we can easily notice how great and important he was to the Trees epic sound! Thanks for sharing this, man! Cheers!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Wow what a great compliment thank you. It was really an honor to speak with him. Agreed with you about how integral he was to the trees sound. Thanks for watching!

@sticksman1979 2 года назад

Gary Lee is a genius legend. He deserves more plaudits.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed

@lanewhite2025 2 года назад

You are ROCK HISTORY BRO !!!

@DanBee 2 года назад

He totally is!

@nathanjamesbaker 2 года назад

Dan, you did a great job with this interview. You knew all the right questions to ask and you also knew when to show restraint and let Gary Lee talk without interrupting him. Great job.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Thanks. It was such a great opportunity as a fan of Gary and the trees. I figure these are things I want to hear so no need to interrupt.

@ghostface_grilla1155 Год назад

Thanks for doing this interview. I really enjoyed it.

@DanBee Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jamesdiamond2302 6 месяцев назад

Real dude right here. Respect from Australia mate

@disseminationnetwork Год назад

Great, love his candor to help fill in what was going on in that period. Really interesting.

@DanBee Год назад

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

@monicacouto4575 2 года назад

i love your songs the Screaming trees are my favorite your guitar playing and Marks voice it dont get any better

@petegallows5494 2 года назад

I really enjoyed the interview. I’ve listened to Mark’s book maybe a year or so ago and it really made me appreciate Gary Lee, I never really knew he pretty much wrote all of their songs. I subscribed to his channel afterwards and I enjoy his videos, he’s extremely talented and a really nice guy.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Glad to hear you subbed to his channel. Geeky much worth it if you enjoy any of them music he has been a part of over the years.

@chadwickrogers43 3 года назад

Absolutely incredible. One of thee best interviews I have ever seen. If I were to describe the sheer, and downright chilling impact the Trees had on me back in the day I would ruin the comment section with about 100 paragraphs. Damn good job, Dan Bee, thanks!

@DanBee 3 года назад

Thank you so much for your kind words! Honestly feel the same as you do about the trees and would like to hear more should you ever feel like sharing.

@DizGuys 2 года назад

Great interview. It's nice to get an impression of Lee's character and better imagine how that might work with Lanegan's. He seems like a good dude. It really gives another angle to Mark's book and how we might interpret their relationship. Dust is a terrific album.

@carlodave9 2 года назад

Damn right about Dust! I've learned junkies are not the most reliable narrators, even in retrospect. Lanegan's cartoonish representation of the Conners was entertaining, but I somehow knew to reserve judgement. Gary sounds a little Aspergery to me and Lanegan--himself a piece of work--clearly never understood how to deal with it. Particularly weird was how Mark refused to cut his bandmates any slack even though he required miles of rope to tolerate.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Right? It’s great to hear all the sides of the story you can. Helps paint a much more complete picture.

@DobbyTheGamer 11 месяцев назад

What a treat of an interview. Like you guys said, these touchstones are important to preserve for rock history. Such great questions!

@russellmcbride1242 2 года назад

Killer interview! I have always admired how respectful Gary is about Mark. Class act! 😎

@DanBee 2 года назад

Thank you and agree with you 100%!

@Dick67 2 года назад

@@DanBee Definitely - and having just read Mark's book, Gary has nothing to worry about. Mark is way harsher on himself, and his comments on his band mates just confirm what I'd always thought, ie Screaming Trees WAS Gary Lee Conner, and his over the top stage moves were totally bitchin! I'm not kidding, what are we supposed to do? Watch Lanegan shake his orange head from side to side? If not for the tour de force of the Conner bros, you'd probably end up watching the drummer.

@Derek-pg4yk 3 месяца назад

I’ve listened to Marks and Barrett Martins biographies and it’s interesting to hear them talk about their relationships with Lee. Mark sounds like he couldn’t stand Lee, but Barrett describes him as a nice guy, amazing song writer, and an essential part of the Screaming Trees. After watching this interview I have to say I think Barrett’s point of view is more of an accurate portrayal.

@robbriggs2277 Месяц назад

Uncle Anesthesia on cassette was my jam in my last two years of high school.

@f.m.9201 3 года назад

Good interview, thank you

@DanBee 3 года назад

Thank you. Glad you found value in it. 😊

@ziggylayneable Год назад

I truly like the way that he promotes his label at the beginning of this video he is very humble about it

@DanBee Год назад

Agreed

@carlodave9 2 года назад

Loved this little glimpse into the personality of the mystery man that drove the Screaming Trees into the wider world. My favorite scene in Mark's book was the surprise reversal of Gary letting Lanegan take more of the wheel. That (non-venomous) scene rang particularly true.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Yeah that was a cool part. I always felt the leap they took as artists was huge on that album and maybe it was because Wyeth all tried to make the best album together rather than separate.

@Deadleg 2 года назад

That was a great interview, the guy was willing to talk, so it ended up being very comfortable.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Yes. He was a fantastic person to talk with. Hope to do it again someday.

@celebratingtheclassicswithearl 2 года назад

Great to see you are still rocking out! You look great brother 🎼❤️🎼 Thank you for all the great music

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed!

@metaphoria3 Месяц назад

His subtle Lanegan impression is spot on

@hagscock Год назад

Keep kicking out the jams, Garry. Great interview, Dan. Cheers bros!

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

He seems to be a really nice dude. Nothing like Mark described him in his book. But... I am surprised that people in the comment section are bitching about him and his book tho? It's like people completely forget how harsh lanegan goes on himself. And it's safe to say that both Mark and Lee have changed and mature over the years.

@DanBee 2 года назад

It seems like when it comes down to it most people are way different in person than any story could make them out to be. These stories we come up with in our heads get embellished and evolve over time. I’m sure Mark is no different.

@jb0529 Год назад

Agree with your last two sentences. Glad they let bygones be bygones.

@drewflanagan4296 3 года назад

Gosh, The Screaming Trees are absolute 90s legends in my mind. Mark's book kind off took some of the sine off them for me, he came across as a real prick. Gary Lee seems like a sweet, humble guy who just happens to be a rock icon.

@DanBee 3 года назад

Agreed 100%

@ladygodiva4141 2 года назад

Same. As if he would of been a pleasure to work with either. It came off as a bit of a nasty hit piece and before I read it I was indifferent to both of them.

@timhall3575 2 года назад

Thanks so much for this interview - really really great. Great to get Garys perspective on the Trees etc. Really cool stuff - cheers man

@DanBee 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! It was a real thrill and pleasure to speak with him and I hoped other fans like yourself would enjoy learning about his perspective too.

@timhall3575 2 года назад

@@DanBee Loved it - never really heard Gary talk before in depth on the band and this was just great. thanks again

@foldingorbits 2 года назад

this is awesome.. wish i could have chatted with him when i lived in tx for 20 years..

@DanBee 2 года назад

It was a really pleasant discussion. If you get the chance go for it.

@tylerbee1083 2 года назад

I’ve been wanting to hear more about the screaming trees..nice interview! Thanks for the great tunes..definitely brings me to a place.

@DanBee 2 года назад

You and me both! Always want to hear more about the trees so it was a great honor to speak with G Lee.

@tylerthompson1842 2 года назад

Great, great guitar player, very underrated from that scene. He looks like a young Leslie West Nowadays.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed! Love his playing.

@ApostateofHELL 2 года назад

Agreed.

@dynjarren8355 7 месяцев назад

This guy acted like Pete Townshend on stage. Doing high jumps and Windmills ! Which was unreal because he’s a pretty big dude! He moved well for big guy! Townshend is tall and thin so for him it was relatively easy. He seems like an intelligent and decent guy. Which is contrary to what I heard. Mark Lanegan didn’t get along with anyone in the band. I heard they hated each other and were arguing constantly. That is not a recipe for success. So they broke up fast. Lanegan had serious drug and alcohol issues. So he went solo. Good interview! Thanks!

@chrisbarnette7137 Год назад

First , thank you for this amazing interview. I hope we get to hear some unreleased stuff. Rest Easy , Mark

@kalkstein2694 Год назад

some unreleased stuff is already on Gary's youtube channel

@chrisbarnette7137 Год назад

@@kalkstein2694 thank you

@DanBee Год назад

Definitely go check out Gary Lee’s channel. So many gems over there.

@DanBee Год назад

Thanks for letting them know about it.

@drewa1999 2 года назад

Excellent questions Dan, and amazing answers and info from an under appreciated grunge era genius! The virus theory was licking someone's eyeball, not spitting in each other's eyes though....

@DanBee 2 года назад

Oh yeah! It had been awhile since I read the book. Appreciate the correction. Glad you enjoyed the chat.

@chriss1991 Год назад

This is a really good interview, well done ✌️

@DanBee Год назад

As a huge fan of the work Gary has done it was a absolute pleasure to chat with him.

@alexsalinas32381 2 года назад

Great insights and smooth flow of infO!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@DanBee 2 года назад

@@MrJJr-lw9zq who grew out of what?

@MrJJr-lw9zq 2 года назад

@@DanBee I didn’t mean to put grew out of it my bad and I replied to the wrong comment 😂

@DanBee 2 года назад

@@MrJJr-lw9zq lol thats fair. Done that myself enough times to know what thats like.

@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 2 года назад

Great interview, but as a guitar player, I would’ve liked to hear about Gary’s gear. There’s next to nothing online about what he used for guitars, amps, and pedals. Just interesting to me because he had a great sound that was so underrated. RIP Mark

@DanBee 2 года назад

You know prior to recording the interview we did talk a little about guitars and gear. I meant to bring it back up once we started and simply forgot. My bad.

@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 2 года назад

@@DanBee that’s ok man, you covered a lot with him. I know for guitars he liked Firebird’s and Les Paul’s, but could you shed some light on anything else?

@handwiredbyme 2 года назад

Dust was such a great classic rock record. Lee is such a great talent and I wish the trees would reunite. I saw you guys at the off ramp on the dust tour. I always loved the trees. They were like the doors.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Yes! I hear the doors in there too! Thanks for dropping by and saying hello.

@handwiredbyme 2 года назад

@@DanBee doors but original they could have happened in 1969 thru 70 and fit right in there

@handwiredbyme 2 года назад

@@DanBee good score BTW getting GLC. He seems si cool and damn he was a great songwriter. I'm a big Lanegan fan but to hear him badmouth the band the bros etc really bummed me out

@DanBee 2 года назад

I’m with you here.

@zaccarroll72 2 года назад

Great interview!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Thank you. Glad you found it valuable. I know I enjoyed interviewing Gary Lee.

@ladygodiva4141 2 года назад

Great interview 👍

@DanBee 2 года назад

It was such a fantastic opportunity to speak with Gary Lee. Much appreciated you dig it!

@MrJJr-lw9zq 2 года назад

Invisible lantern,even if and especially when and Buzz factory my fav albums by the Trees (love sweet oblivion and uncle Anastasia as well but early trees sounded so great )

@DanBee 2 года назад

There is a lot to love about the sounds of both the indie and major label stuff. All of it pretty damn good in their own rights.

@MrJJr-lw9zq 2 года назад

@@DanBee true but the trees are more then just nearly lost you and sweet oblivion

@DanBee 2 года назад

@@MrJJr-lw9zq agreed 100% I have the entire catalog on CD including all the cd dingles and promo releases. I find merit in the whole output and its a really fun journey to go on and listen all the way through.

@BushyHairedStranger 2 года назад

The Trees opening for The Wipers winter 1986 at Pine Street theater. I was hitch hiking up & down I-5 then seeing shows in Portland, Salem, Olympia, Seattle, even in my hometown of Eugene(Venues like the EMU, WOW Hall, Cheese Manor & Club Bag). 1986-1996 was an incredibly fun decade to be part of.

@MrJJr-lw9zq 2 года назад

@@DanBee awesome!

@vincetrujillojr510 Год назад

Gary has a really rich voice, man could be a radio show host.

@DanBee Год назад

You know he really does!

@pooky1959 7 месяцев назад

Thought the same. Mark painted him as some sort of moron. He’s very well spoken and articulate.

@commandermark5254 22 дня назад

I think Dust is their best album.

@DanBee 21 день назад

Love Dust

@Pieguy73 3 месяца назад

The trees are one of my favs. They just rock. I did concert security at that paramount show he was talking about. They rocked it. Then saw them again at emp. Another good show. They were great live. Im glad i saw them live. They just rock i always play em in a bar.

@DanBee 2 месяца назад

Cool story. Appreciate you sharing it with us.

@dawidklucz849 2 года назад

I miss that impossible reunion ,Gary was so close to that Farewell forever Creaming Trees

@DanBee 2 года назад

Would have been great to see a reunion one day. I feel you here.

@robbriggs2277 Месяц назад

Mark Pickerel got the Trees on SST after giving a demo to an agent at some concert in Seattle.

@ACandRS 3 года назад

Jeez GLC is a chatterbox haha cool video and nice to hear his perspective.

@DanBee 3 года назад

Lol! I love that he is so open about all of it and agreed about its great to hear his side of things!

@zippymufo9765 2 года назад

GLC definitely doesn't fit the picture that Lanegan made of him in his book.

@tt-tc2xo 2 года назад

Dying Days is brilliant, why is he like "the song was okay", this is fantastic work.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Love that song!

@cosmicheretic8129 2 года назад

He also didn't like 'nearly lost you'. Probably just played them too much.

@macadoo2530 2 года назад

Best song on Dust!

@radiomindchatter7994 2 года назад

Witness...brilliant.

@DanBee 2 года назад

It is a great song.

@Alligator-wc9vw 2 года назад

He seems like quite a chill dude. Feel bad he comes off so bad in Lanegan's book. Although tbf nobody comes off worse in that book than Lanegan himself.

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

True. Lanegan goes harsh on many people. But not as hard as on himself

@MedievalRichard 2 года назад

What does Lanegan say about him in his book?

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

@@MedievalRichard well not so nice things lol. He actually insults him quite often and that he was lazy. And being lazy is rather nice compared to the other things.

@Alligator-wc9vw 2 года назад

@@MedievalRichard He just slates him pretty much constantly throughout the whole book. The only times he gives him any credit are the first time they met and when they recorded Sweet Oblivion.

@kuga6566 2 года назад

I think that was the entire point. Lanegan didn't want to portray himself as a hero or as a Good person in that book, that was a chronicle of his life when he was a particularly bad person and kind of a nuisance to everyone around him. He wanted people to see it from the way he saw it back then, much in the way he clowned on Liam Gallagher despite not actually having anything against him now. He cleaned up his act in subsequent years and evolved into being a genuinely great guy and redeemed himself plenty.

@WalkeeTalkeeMan Год назад

That must be the easiest interview ever.. the guy really wanted to talk!!!

@anfrankogezamartincic1161 2 года назад

DUST is a great record

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed!

@withmygoodeyeclosed Год назад

The production makes it my favorite Trees record.

@macadoo2530 2 года назад

Dust really benefited from the involvement of Benmont Tench and Mike McCready. Not taking anything away from Connor at all. He wrote those songs.They simply added some nice touches to the songs.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Totally agree! I love what they added to it. Added being a key word. But it totally elevated the songs too.

@jasontrombley5948 2 года назад

Gary’s much cooler than Marks book colors him

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed 100%

@MrJJr-lw9zq 2 года назад

Maybe he matured from what he did idk cus I don’t know everyone else’s thoughts on Lee so yeah maybe he matured

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

@@MrJJr-lw9zq he did..and so did Mark.

@VanishedPNW 2 года назад

This guy seems just fine. I'm sure Mark Lanegan has his reasons, but this guy seems pretty cool. You can tell he's pretty hurt by the shit in Lanegan's book, and rightfully so. Mark ripped him to shreds the entire book, which is kind of fucked when a guy can't tell his side of the story. That said, I think their post-Screaming Trees works speaks to a lot of what Lanegan was bitching about in the book. Lee Connor is one hell of a guitar player and songwriter, regardless of what Lanegan says, but he has not done much since Screaming Trees. As in basically nothing (though the stuff he has released is quite good). Lanegan ripped these guys for not having a great work ethic and I think the record reflects that, as he's released a dozen records since the Trees and Lee and Van being are out of the business having released next to nothing. I'm sure there's more to it than we all know. While I doubt every bit of Lanegan's portrait of Lee is accurate, it is funny looking at his bedroom during this podcast and seeing all that psychedelic stuff lol. That was one of his biggest complaints, Lee's desire to push the Trees into neo-psychadelia rip-off revival territory. So at least that much is accurate (I have a soft spot for that shit myself). In all, if this interview is any indication, Lee seems like a much different guy than who Mark described in his book. Maybe he has matured a lot since the 90s. Perhaps they had some falling out we aren't privy to which led to the indictments in the book. Regardless, it's a huge bummer that Lanegan feels the way he does because the Trees were an exact band full of untapped potential. They had the originality and skill to stay in the heap like Pearl Jam and a couple others. Whereas many of their grunge counterparts likely would have fallen off, I think they could have always been a deeply respected underground act.

@DustyNothing 2 года назад

Always will be a deeply respected underground act in my book,

@DanBee 2 года назад

Very thoughtful comments here. Thank you for sharing. You know, it’s not like it’s a bad thing to want to put your touch or influence into a band you started with someone. Having been in several bands myself I know I’ve not only done it but been annoyed (like Lanegan) by it. However it doesn’t mean the other person is bad or wrong for putting their touch on it. In fact you start to learn that when collaborating it’s what makes the music unique. A little form here and a little from there equals something new.

@VanishedPNW 2 года назад

@@DanBee I just don't think the portrayal of him in Sing Backwards & Weep is accurate anymore, if it ever was. Lee plays with feverous virtuosity and while it's easy to take Mark Lanegan's word for it, I just don't they're it's true, all of his descriptions of Lee. It's a damn shame they'll never let bygones be bygones. I love the Trees.

@DanBee 2 года назад

@@VanishedPNW Yes I agree its a shame and as far as your other point, it's really hard to know what reality is because each person who gives their side of the story shares their biased reality. So I simply take each perspective with a grain of salt.

@satorified1612 Год назад

Dust is one of the great 90’s Seattle albums. The fact that it didn’t sell well was most likely due to lackluster promotion.

@DanBee Год назад

Love Dust!

@satorified1612 Год назад

@@DanBee Yes sir. An underrated gem....

@DanBee Год назад

@@satorified1612 agreed!

@jetcheneau5811 Год назад

Yeah, I always hear people say "oh it was the wrong time" -- bullshit. Dust Could have been the biggest record of the year, if it were promoted right.

@satorified1612 Год назад

@@jetcheneau5811 Agreed. Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam still had big selling albums yet to come, so the "grunge was dead"-argument doesn't hold weight. It really was lackluster promotion. The Seattle station 107.7 The End promoted it well, but they were always diligent about promoting Seattle bands (regional favoritism, but I was ok with that.).

@FuzzyBuzzBoy 2 года назад

New Sub here. Nice interview with one of the best guitarist and writers EVER! Thanks for this keep them coming.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the interview. Totally agree about Lee being one of the best writers. Huge influence on me as well.

@jimfoster2909 2 года назад

This guy seems really laid back. Not how I pictured him after the book.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Same here.

@guyfaux900 2 года назад

I know Mark is a good writer but boys sure makes people come off as sounding horrible. I'm new to these guys because I really was reading the book for lanye stories. But the dysfunctional bands Dynamic intrigues me. I was expecting the sky to be like rainman but he seems fairly communicative and normal relative to Lanigan who looks more and more like a prick ( who can write)

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

@@guyfaux900 I wouldn't go this far. Lanegan is a pretty nice dude as well. And he goes extremely harsh on himself in his book.

@guyfaux900 2 года назад

@@halloweenjack95 yeah clearly I've seen him he pretty decent but also constantly calling out audience members for a fight pretty hilarious

@halloweenjack95 2 года назад

@@guyfaux900 Well Can't say anything to that because I havent experienced that kind of behaviour from him.

@dmvconartists1855 2 года назад

13:30 definitely shoulda put that dying days song out! its awesome!

@DanBee 2 года назад

It’s really good! Would love to see an official compilation of outtakes and rare songs.

@atiostefony3760 3 месяца назад

Gary the great Gary

@davidleewrath6919 3 года назад

Hey man, you should get Greg Sage here and ask what he thinks about Lanegan's statements about him (which weren't good) or maybe get Mark Pickerel to see if there's some substance to them.

@DanBee 3 года назад

It would be interesting to find out their thoughts. However, I don't want to be a "gotcha" kind of podcast, putting people in awkward positions.

@chrisg1772 2 года назад

Having read Lanegans book, which I must say was written excellently, it is only one side of the story. The side of one person who was a notorious heroin, crack and alcohol abuser. His character is hardly that of anyone I would ever trust in real life but an interesting person none the less. So it's refreshing to actually hear an interview from someone In the Trees for a different take on things and on the surface here seems pretty chill

@DanBee 2 года назад

Agreed. There are sides to every story and the best way to really get a decent understanding is to hear as many of them as possible. Glad you enjoyed the interview.

@user-sg6fb4ip5h 2 года назад

Yea no kidding. Agreed

@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 2 года назад

Lanegan is a notorious liar. A man who's even taken money to lie for other people publicly. Liars often make good writers. To me, he does a decent second hand Bukowski style but ultimately, what excerpts I've heard ring of exaggeration to outright lies.

@bullfrog7375 2 года назад

@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer I never got why he talked so negative about Gary Lee. From the interveiw it seems that Gary is a super cool dude. When I watched this vid I was expecting a introverted curmudgeon. It almost seems like when lanegan was describing gary, he was actually just describing himself.

@patricks.tomlinson4275 2 года назад

@@bullfrog7375 because once a junkie always a junkie. lanegans full of it

@tom66909 3 года назад

Barret Martin is their best drummer! Dust is an album I need on vinyl!

@DanBee 3 года назад

Same!

@anfrankogezamartincic1161 2 года назад

That record deserved millions of sales

@crypttonite Год назад

uncle anesthesia sounds great

@sparekeiv 2 года назад

Mark said in his book that he pawned the tapes.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Didn’t he say he was able to get them out of pawn though? I don’t remember.

@Rippenhengst 2 года назад

A real POS ...

@boopah4365 Год назад

@@Rippenhengst not a Mark fan we get it.

@Fishfuzzlove 2 года назад

After reading Mark book and seeing some interviews with the Conner brothers I can see they were not cut from the same cloth. Surprised it worked as long as it did. They were basically squares and he was a true punk. Watching live footage they looked like the most random band ever. People said Mark was mean in his book and he was pretty harsh but I can see what he meant. Gary with the fake psychedelia even to this day, laughing about Mark going to the hospital in this interview like a true prick. I think Mark painted a good picture of him. Mark no doubt pissed away many opportunities with that erratic lifestyle crazy to think about what could’ve been if he could stay clean. Rip Mark.

@DanBee 2 года назад

I see where you are coming from. From my perspective it’s like they are siblings who didn’t get along. There is love and respect there enough to rip on each other but just speaking with Lee and getting to know him through social media you can tell he is a fan and has respect for Lanegan.

@carlodave9 2 года назад

@@DanBee My thoughts exactly.

@Jack-ns9sz 2 года назад

Love Mark Lanegan but I felt his book was overly harsh on Gary Lee Conner and it detracted what overall was a pretty good book. Even if there was truth to it all, it just lacked a lot of class to smear someone constantly in a book.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Yeah I love Lanegan too and I get he had to create tension in the book. After reading it I was a little nervous to interview Gary Lee but I found him pleasant and not at all like described in the book (sans the psychedelic room). Thanks for watching!

@williamrogers9004 2 года назад

Especially since Lanagens memories are distorted since he was a scumbag junkie, and i was one years ago. When a junkie remembers a story and blames another, its usually their fault.

@stewartchampion4260 2 года назад

Got a feeling he still likes his acid and mushrooms with a room like that..sst years screaming trees is my fav..great band. Yes mark is a great singer but take away the music and it only has half the appeal .the trees was a great band very underrated

@darthandeddeu 2 года назад

I love that room

@DanBee 2 года назад

It’s a fantastic room for sure. Very fun and psychedelic either way.

@Rightsideup 2 года назад

Class act. Lanegan buries this guy in his memoirs, as well as himself. Lee is so so kind to not point out that Lanegan self sabotaged everything.

@hubriswonk 2 года назад

No junkie likes the people or person who forces him to look at himself and take responsibility for his actions.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Definitely tough. Junkie or not. Many people have issues with this.

@DanBee 2 года назад

This is just my take on it and could be wrong but I think once you are through a life experience like Lee you can look back and appreciate the parts that made it work. Which incidentally was supposed to be the focus of our conversation. What made the trees successful.

@hubriswonk 2 года назад

@@DanBee Great interview and thanks for making it happen!

@crypttonite Год назад

usually band members will sing like each other, Peter Hook can definitely deliver vocals the truest to Ian.

@sparekeiv 2 года назад

Release the Paramount recording!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Yes!

@AsphaltAntelope 2 года назад

Great interview, fantastic interviewer. I was too young when the Screaming Trees were out but have been a fan for years. I'd only heard Lanegan's side of the story and came to this expecting to this guy to be a total asshole. I was ready to hate him after all the stories... but he's cool as hell! And happy, and cheery. I'm sad to see that it Lanegan just appears to be bitter and grumpy - he's a talented guy but he seems to carry a lot of unnecessary anger.

@cosmicheretic8129 2 года назад

Addiction does that.

@crypttonite Год назад

yea your eyes & ears are also pathways

@duckbrew 2 года назад

I wonder what Van's been up to.

@DanBee 2 года назад

Last I saw Van wasn’t feeling too well. His stomach had some kind of intestinal explosion and he was trying to learn to walk again. This news was just a day before Lanegan passed. Hoping he makes a quick recovery.

@duckbrew 2 года назад

@@DanBee wow thanks for the update.

@adambravo2353 Год назад

RIP VAN CONNOR

@crypttonite Год назад

nearly lost you sounds exactly as it is totally commercial, it’s like it was written for the film singles

@janlevani8824 11 месяцев назад

Mark thrashes him but I like him alot

@DanBee 11 месяцев назад

Same!

@E.C.2 10 месяцев назад

Mark seemed like a Dick,no offense.

@Gcssdvnkloiutesc 9 месяцев назад

@@E.C.2what is he supposed to say if what he said was true? Lie and say he was a great and generous guy?

@E.C.2 9 месяцев назад

@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc A general theme of Mark's book was kissing up to famous people and trashing his band of 17 yrs.

@Gcssdvnkloiutesc 9 месяцев назад

@@E.C.2 he wasn’t kind to Al Jourgenson, and he was very kind to many of seattles local musicians that aren’t famous. He only talks about musicians not “famous people” and the famous ones he does talk about he knew years before they were famous like Kurt Cobain Josh Homme and Layne Staley. It was his experience in that band and his truth. I don’t see anything wrong with writing the truth if that is how he feels. Too many people these days don’t want to hear the truth and seem to guard their lies about things aggressively.

@djshakeappeal1051 10 месяцев назад

The whole pre Epic Trees back catalog needs to be reissued ASAP.. in particular’Buzz Factory’.. great video btw.. nice to hear a different take on the Screaming Trees career.

@DanBee 10 месяцев назад

Would love to see this too! Glad you enjoyed the interview!

@PulseXP-yo8wu Месяц назад

Buzz Factory is a fantastic album

@user-nr2td7jl8c 2 месяца назад

Funny, the album they considered crap is one of, if not my favorite recordings of all time. A masterpiece. The way Mark spoke about Gary in his book was bullshit. Mark seemed like the dick bag.

@bryanfrombuffalo7685 Месяц назад

Any full blown addicts world is all about them

@rowdy1467 Месяц назад

I had just listened to Lanagan's audiobook and I'm in the middle of Barrett Martin's book about his time in the Trees, and I kind of get those same vibes. I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Because remember, Van didn't want Gary in the band at first. There was a reason for that. And in both books, there are some stories where Lanagan comes off as real self-centered and didn't fully appreciate the opportunity he had at that time.

@AsphaltAntelope 2 года назад

I watched this last night and I still can't get over how good it was! I came here after getting 30mins into a different RU-vid channel - Joseph Arthur - interviewing Barrett Martin but I had to turn that off after learning that Arthur is a pro-covid, pro-death anti-vaxer. His style of interviewing was nowhere near as good as yours either!

@DanBee 2 года назад

Really appreciate the compliment. Glad you enjoyed the interview too!

@AsphaltAntelope 2 года назад

@@DanBee I hope one day you can get Robert Roth or Ron Nine on! There are hardly any interviews of them around.