Gaza & Global Order: A Conversation with Yuval Noah Harari (Episode  

Thank you for this episode. I think the paywall needs to be removed on this so the full contents can be shared as widely as possible. Yuval brings up some really key points at the end about the responsibilities of the intellectual elite in moments like this and how they are falling short, and reiterates the more balanced perspective that must be adopted for further catastrophes to be avoided. This message needs to be heard.

These should be released in full. Episodes that you believe “actually” need to be heard. I mean, you know you’re a smart dude and do “make sense” and this logic needs to be released to the world. A topic like this is a good example of what needs to be heard. If you want to continue making a difference (you will either way) release then in full… I guarantee it will require people to think about what and why they believe what they say. We need that today lol. Good job Sam as always!

This one really should be released in full without a paywall..Yuval and you both raise solid points from different perspectives, and this exchange truly needs to be heard across the world in times like these.

Sam, you never cease to amaze me with your intelligence and excellent guests. This podcast was unbelievably good and thought-provoking. I’m glad I got to hear the entire discussion. I agree that, on this particular episode, perhaps the paywall could be removed. It’s up to you, of course, but your and Yuval’s entire discussion should be heard by everyone.

Sam, as an Israeli I can tell you that Yuval represents the secular leftist view of the situation. They are the rulling minority. Most of the Israelis tell a different story, which you don't hear it. It creates confirmation bias. Please talk to Amir Avivi, Gershon Hacohen, Mordechai Kedar, Caroline Glick, Ran Baratz, Gadi Taub and others.

Yuval the example of relations between Poland and Ukraine is the best. As I Pole, I never expected that despite the genocide in Volhynia, about 60,000 Poles died , Poles and Ukrainians would be friends in the future. Today, about 1 million refugees from Ukraine are in Poland. These are well-educated people who work in Poland to earn their living. I have many friends among them. I hope that they feel at home in Poland and that after the war they will be able to safely return home to Ukraine or stay in Poland. 🇵🇱❤🇺🇦 I wish that the Israeli and Palestinian nations will also become friends🇵🇸❤🇮🇱

Nothing is better for my mental health than listening to TRULY smart and ethical people talk. It’s like a massage for my brain, I can relax and my brain never freezes in an attempt to make sense of what was said or to unpack which incentives are behind it.

47:53 “the curse of history is the attempt to correct the past” powerful quote

The rant about 48 minutes in is really heavy art, the voice, the quality of the recording itself, this man’s personal position in regard to his famous work, what he says. Historic document of a conversation here. Peace.

In this interview Yuval defined peace as something which doesn't give absolute justice to anybody but gives a better future for everybody. Those are truly wise words, that's the best definition of peace.

For the sake of world peace please release the entire episode. Sam, this will be one of your best contributions to the world.

Great episode. Don’t always agree with Yuval, but excellent listen nonetheless. Thank you.

It would be great to see you interview "Son of Hamas" Mosab Hassan Yousef. His speech at UN was inspiring.

Speaking as a non-Jewish American who has been through the war in israel for 7 weeks until being able to leave for Norway, I completely agree with Yuval's observations and insights. I went there to help take hospice care of an elderly woman a week before the attacks happened. I have no national connection to Israel, but the severity of the terror attacks hit every bone in my body. I saw videos from first responders and terrorist body cams, nothing could explain what that was.. it will take a lifetime to find the words. Thank you guys for talking so succinctly about this.

I’m an Israeli who considers herself a left-winged liberal, and 100% agree with Yuval’s point of view. I wish we had more honest, open-minded, intelligent, brave leaders in Israel who could take us in the direction Yuval was outlining. I’m also a subscriber of the podcast so I got to hear this episode in full and of course agree with the many comments here suggesting the paywall for this one should be removed. Well done, excellent conversation. Keep up the good work, Sam and Yuval.

Wonderful podcast. Thank you Sam and Yuval🙏🏻 The situation is dire and far more complex than I realized.

This is the most informative, enlightened and enlightening discussion I have heard on this awful issue - and I’ve listened to a fair few in the last weeks. Very valuable contribution to public understanding, I think

A wisely reasoned, knowledgeable discussion. Thank you.

"To be a scientist is to be naive. We are so focused on our search for truth, we fail to consider how few actually want us to find it. But it is always there, whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not. The truth doesn't care about our needs or wants. It doesn't care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions. It will lie in wait for all time. And this, at last, is the gift of Chernobyl. Where I once would fear the cost of truth, now I only ask: "What is the cost of lies?" Valery Legasov

I’m a simple man. I see a conversation between Sam & Yuval, and I’m happy.

This latest podcast of Sam is yet another unbelievably good and thought provoking . Mr.Yuval brings up some really key points and historical perspectives of the current situation . Appreciate his balanced perspective for further catastrophes to be avoided .This entire discussion must be heard by everyone.

How wonderful to follow an INTELLIGENT exposé and discussion. I am so fed up with the constant emotionally dramatic diatribe of wokeism. Thank you Mr. Harris. I learned a lot more about the complexity of the situation and particularly about the internal politics, leading up to the current chaos. (I am subscribed BTW). I am slowly building my list of people I can follow on You Tube, people who are working from an intelligent, where is the truth, basis. It almost goes without saying that you are on my list. Thank you again. Not only are your podcasts "a breath of fresh air", they are a necessity. Please continue.

Great episode. I wanted to subscribe to listen to the whole conversation but I’m not doing the whole year. Is there a way to sub for a month or purchase an episode?

I wish I could just subscribe to RU-vid and get full episodes but please keep up the good work Sam enjoy even half episodes with your guests frequently

It's the first time I've heard a story like this from the scene. It was useful to familiarize myself with the details of the situation so that I could create a picture of everything. I'm from Europe and there was a war here and we came to peace, of course, with some compromise. Life without peace is not worth living.

Israeli here. Thanks for the depth and breadth. Good and bad.

Yuval Noah Harari - Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Thank you Sam , care ftom people, who live in other countries really important!

I love both Sam Harris and Yuval Noah Harari, but what a potent combination the two of them are together! Sam, thank you so much for asking intelligent and meaningful questions that helped further our understanding.

32:45 - It's a point that always comes to mind, even though it's a kind of "whataboutism" argument. All my Israeli family members originated from Arab nations. They had no interest in leaving their home, which they had lived in for generations, but had no choice but to leave and retreat to Israel. And now they are called "occupiers." They're refugees, forced from their homes, and now they're living and supporting a country that let them in.

Thank you for this episode 🙏

The result of 14 years? I don't think so - this has been decades in the making. What you sow is what you reap and you sowed the seeds decades ago!

Your last episode was perfect Sam, well done. Just starting this one.

Excellent conversation, Sam and Yuval! I am deeply encouraged that thinkers like you two are around today, providing some sense of stability amidst the general chaos.

What an excellent conversation. It cannot be otherwise considering the two brilliant minds chatting.

another thought provoking discussion. Thank you for doing this

This conversation, like the last one on this topic, is very elucidating. It is clear that Hamas needs to end in order for Muslims and Jews to find peace.

Excellent work Sam!

Slight difference between the Ukraines/Lithuanians and Hamas is that the former do not have a written declaration for the total eradication of the Poles. And as for returning lost lands, the results are there for the reading regarding Israel and her neighbours since approximately 1947. Sometimes one must learn from the past to prevent the repeat of same.

Yuval Harari and Sam Harris, thank you so much for this fascinating and illuminating interview.

The first thing I want to say to you, Sam Harris, and to you Yuval Noah Harari, is that I believe you have both made the world a better place. You both speak your minds and your thoughts come often resonate from your hearts and pass through your souls to us on many, many issues that perplex modern society. The second thing I want to offer is my condolences to Yuval and his family and friends who have lost loved ones, friends, and fellow Israelis on the 7 October attacks. To quote Roosevelt: a day that will go down in infamy and never fade from the conscience of Israelis and the Jewish people and the world community. If I may, here is my opinion on what has to be done to change some things in the region. Yuval has stated that the Arab nations refuse to accept Israel as a sovereign state and this must change. This shows to me that the Arab mindset is set in concrete and nothing good will come of continuing with this refusal to accept Israel's right to exist. Next: Gaza can and never will be trusted by Israeli's living on the border with Gaza or even deep into Israel and this is where I have an idea how to kill two dilemmas with two beautiful words: wildlife sanctuary. Yes; that's right: you hear me correctly. Gaza must be transformed from the blood-soaked battleground of warring factions and a population of people living in deplorable conditions to a nature reserve for saving endangered species of plant, animal and aquatic life. This could become the Galapagos of the middle east and bring in more tourists than the pyramids. Israelis, Egyptians, Palestinians and all neighboring states could put their differences behind them and work together to save the many, many species on the verge of extinction. Our progeny would echo heartfelt thanks to us for sending them a wildlife reserve with faun and fauna brought back from extinction. This is an example of what could be accomplished: there are only 6 black tigers known to exist, for example. We could save this species by allowing them to reproduce in a protected nature reserve! The key to this dream of mine of course comes with a caveat many will say is more like a noose: a proper homeland for the Palestinians must be the cherry on the cake and this is of course where the good ship I am sailing on runs aground. Because we are going to need to re-think and re-draw some boundaries and give up some land so that the Palestinians can all live proudly on enough land to house their entire population. To recap: an ecological buffer zone must be created by evacuating Palestinians from Gaza which has been called an open prison to their own country, a patch of land that no one can claim but them and Gaza must be transformed into an oasis of the middle east cum Galapagos that would allow the deep wounds to heal that both the Israelis and the Palestinians bear from a conflict whose root cause is basically a border dispute that can only be resolved by taking dramatic steps and perhaps even using harsh methods to achieve an everlasting peace in the region. Arabs will be willing to accept Israel as a sovereign state once they see their Palestinian brothers and sisters living on their own in peace. All Arab nations and Israelis must understand that the road to peace is by listening to each other as neighbors first and use nature reserves to be buffer zones on contested lands because no one will attack a wildlife sanctuary. This Gaza war must and can be resolved with words and logic and wisdom.

Two of the bests of our time!

I'd love to see Sam live one day as a Palestinian in the west bank and see how his view of this situation changes.

Sam is a champion of clarity and common sense. Everyone should hear this.

Yuval is not mainstream Israeli opinion. As he's discussing internal Israeli politics he could at least be honest about that

Much appreciated for the example of Poland offering hope.

Release the full story please.. ❤

Great episode, and so much needed voice of reason. Yuval was clearly the right person to go to learn more about the issue,

Thanks for trying to keep it real🇨🇦

Yuval’s comment about the fantasy of absolute justice and it’s destructiveness is just *chef’s kiss*-“Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes”

Thank you bringing voices of reason to the world, Sam.

“The curse of history is to try to correct the past.” Move forward.

Excellent excellent excellent episode!

You are also appreciated, AJ! I admire your perseverence and what it gave rise to: one of the best RU-vid channels with a warm, intellingent host and a funny fish who voices everything that would seem crazy for us, rational people to say 😊. Your show makes me remember me the times when there was actually something good to watch on tv and you would wait for your favourite show every week and enjoy it like the special time that it was. 😊 Anyway, just wanted to thank you and your awesome team for always making my Fridays better! Stay safe! 😊

The complaint isn't that some people are more elite than others; it's in denying that they ever govern in accordance with their own self interests and priorities, or even suffer from myopias induced by the cliques with which they travel. The particular way that the elite is choosing to govern must also be a legitimate subject of potential criticism -- in a democracy. People are not simply obliged to pay the traditional deference accorded to nobles.

Thanks so much for the great teachings you've always provided to us.

Historians can be politically naive sometimes. Yuval said that Hamas did this because it wanted to stop a peace treaty between Saudis and Israelis. He might be right but I need to remind you that Arab governments don’t represent public opinion. Arab leaders are a bunch of authoritarians who are interested solely in staying in power. They were doing this for their own sake not for the sake of peace in the regions. UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and before that Jordan and Egypt signed peace treatments with the Israelis. How did that reflect on the ground for Palestinians?

perhaps the best harris episode of all time... literally felt like verbal choreography without an extra or misplaced word... kudos to em both

Thank you for making this amazing project it looks like philosphers, political scientists and intellectuals may have a role to play in making peace sooner than expected with social media becoming a disinformation war. It seems it's the only way to understand what's really happening nowadays..

Brilliant. Thank you! ❤

As an Israeli, Yuval has a very specific point of view on the government and why what happened happened. I wouldn’t take any word as stone from here because the Israeli dynamic his much more complex than that.

In one of the first videos Sam released after the Hamas attack he finished by saying "There is no moral equivalence". I didn't quite understand what he meant. Now I've seen the IDF do their thing, I see it clearly.

I am really having hard time to grasp the ignorance of Sam Harris about the difference between the muslim people and the fundamentalist islam. He is openly suggesting lets strat a religious war than after the muslims suffer enough we will find a way to deal with them. As an atheist I am really having difficulty to understand the logic in that.

When two bright minds discuss, it is fire works! 🎆

“we have people who simply do not care about the deaths of noncombatants”

Can Sam offer a lower priced subscription for us second- and third-world citizens? I love his content BUT his pricing is exorbitant for many people living outside of the developed world, and sometimes it is exactly the rest of the world that would benefit the most by being able to listen to him. Just asking for freebies all the time is convoluted. Can you please upvote this or somehow make it known to him? Thank you.

Wish I could afford to subscribe. Really appreciate the perspectives he brings to listeners.

Being from Finland I pay so much respect for Harari's and Harris' views on Netanyahu who's corrupted, he became corrupted by time, by power.

“Useless eater” checking in for Yuval’s podcast

Given what Sam has said on this topic previously and his admittance here that he hasn’t been following Israeli politics closely, I hope the conversation between 13mins and 18mins here gives him some pause for thought where Yuval states that Netanyahu did not want the moderates to prevail in Gaza and preferred to keep Hamas in charge. He was baiting an attack like this to justify a response like we have seen since October 7th. I like Sam but he has focussed way too much on the religious motive behind the Hamas attack (though it certainly is an aspect of it) and not enough on Israel’s provocation. Given what we’ve seen since October 7th it’s hard to believe that Netanyahu completely dismissed the idea of a major Hamas attack being a net benefit to the Israel project.

30:06 his analysis of the Israeli Arab dispute is just brilliant

Yuval ,I would like to talk with you about Yugoslavia and about the conflict we living in Israel .Great perspective buy the way .

Yes! I'm very happy with this episode. Finally more nuance. You've been hardlining the purely religious aspect of this conflict for way too long, good to see you widening the discussion. You were to focused on value-judging how the two sides justified their actions rather than their actions for what they really were. Thank you Sam. 🙏

Bro debate someone who disagrees with you

Great discussion!

Thank you 🙏🏻

Thank you for sharing this discussion. It is vital in a time where millions of people across the world are cheering for an “intifada”, tearing down posters of the kidnapped, and grossly misusing terms like “genocide” and “apartheid”

It's almost laughable to imagine Sam actually inviting a Palestinian onto his podcast. This clearly indicates his exceptional capacity for rational thought.

Ok you got me. I just subscribed for a month to listen to the end of this interview. Thanks for having this insightful conversation with Yuval!

This is a treat

Sam harris, thank you for the meditation app I learnt a lot. I write this note to say thank you for the voice of reason, common sense and kindness you offer up and send out weekly. If our world was a pot of water left on the stove to boil, that pot is skittering all over the range and could and likely sadly will tip over and burn us all. I hope not but the quickest glance at world news is not comforting not one bit. Thank you Sam harris and please don’t let those Trigonometry Stan and Ollie use their school master tone on you again, your work and insights are from a different deeper realm of learning. Listening to them in that…now listen to me Sam….tone take pops at you is like me lecturing a Llama on how to meditate……Your work is vital to me and many others we both learn and are comforted by your voice in this Babel of bitterness and anger that is the internet….To quote Yeats….the centre will not hold…the best lack all conviction and the worst are full of passionate intensity. You are of the best and have not lost a breath to a lie……Thank you

I appreciate Yuvals insights, but Sam Harris continually side steps the accountability of Israel for Palestinian casualties, by fully blaming Hamas.

off to the sub feed, thank you both!

49:39 onwards.. absolutely the basics everyone needs to understand

You should start using ads instead of subscriptions; i believe most people wouldnt mind the ads, especially from good companies with quality products. This way you would be able to reach more people; and maybe change their points of view. Thanks for the great talk.

By far the most sane commentary on and discussion of this abhorrent mess that I've come across.

Some episodes need to be released in full. Some things mean more than $.

Sam is have a request, I wish your podcasts had video capture as it makes it more engaging. It’s probably a pain to do that but I think it would be meaningful.

Sam and Yuval knock it out of the park...again.

When all the episodes were free in whole, I supported Sam on patreon. When they went paywalled I chose not to continue supporting him because what I was paying for on patreon was supporting getting his conversations spread to the widest possible audience. I'll gladly donate to support projects which I think are good for wider society, I'll buy myself books if I'm just paying for my own education.

Two of my favorite people making sense together, can’t get much better than that 🕊️

Sam is blue all rise the best song that has ever been created pls answer thanks

Two freaking Titans!!! This is gonna be great !

Thanks Sam for such valuable conversation

1st Jan '24 Great sound honest conversation. Most appreciated. Thank you

Excellent.

I think a question that was raised by the ex president of the MDF (Doctors without borders)is very important and I hope Sam can make an episode about it " Do the Palestinians have the right of Self Defense the same way Israel does?"

Very good and thanks to you both! As a liberal progressive what I’ve always struggled with is the apparently dominant current conservative view that if we/they try hard enough time and consequently change can be arrested if not reversed. I think even Edmund Burke was okay with just slowing down the rate of change😊😊

Glen Beck mentioned Yuval Harari on page 397 of his book Dark Future.

These big talks should come with video. A lot of body language content missed out on