He was killed by a clone, but he was executed. His hands were cuffed. Pong Krell vs. General Grievous! Would be such a good fight. Both have advantages over each other. Krell can use the force, but Grievous has four lightsabers while Krell has two but double-bladed.
“I used to believe being a good soldier meant doing everything they told you, that’s how they engineered us. But we’re not droids, we’re not programmed, you have to make your own decisions.” Something I like to say whenever I think of this quote and order 66. Good soldiers follow orders, but great soldiers know what’s right.
I think most Jedi that distrusted the clones would do more of what Kota did and just not have any under them. Most Jedi wouldn't go as dark as Krell did.
I've heard many times that Jedi repeatedly mistreated their clones, and generals like ObiWan and Anakin were rare. It's hard to see that since Krell's the only one we've seen do that.
I love this scene - it's Filoni's way of having an ACTUAL Order 66 Jedi-hunt scene. And I particularly love the line "I will not be undermined by creatures bred in some LABORATORY!"
It's weird since clones have the skill and training of jango fett in hand to hand as well as the physical abilities. They couldn't coordinate an attack he couldn't block? Why didn't they just hit him with a stun in the first place?
If only Krell was there in defending during the purge. He would have slaughtered all of those clones and save the order. Too bad he became a dark Jedi.
+noobest11 You would only need general krill and windu. Once windu beats sidious krill could detain anakin before he attacked windu and they could advance on sidious
+Metro-Police if only we would know the soulution to his predicament than disney would be so much better then what it is today, it just feels like the old days are lost ever since he was put in the freezer like popsicle :'(
+Calenhad Bes'uliik And remember in that Vader episode, she shot 2 times at Vader, he reflected em with his saber, went right on her breast and straight in the face, and got right back up.
The show is a joke to me! One thing that really bugs was when they raid a parade and the guy who killed half of this big guy's species was there; however, instead of taking him out and having peace with himself, the second main character told him to shoot the Sith Lord with a tiny guy! The guy just easily dodge it, like what that gun going to do? Thanks Captain for making me missed once in a lifetime opportunity to kill the guy who slaughtered my people!
Strange Scourge Johnson seriously maaaan, I know Filoni is like '' fuck my life, this show is never gonna be like clone wars'' I think hes trying but Disney is da boss here.And that animation man. wtf
Despite Krell being a dick, he was probably the most badass Jedi I have ever seen. Two double sided lightsabers!!?? Good thing he never became a dark apprentice.
Sad part is most of the clones had an arc that defined them as a character of their own. The sequels were basically just... "You can do that now?" "I can do that now" and that was basically it
+Sherlock Holmes Yeah now we have a boy with a laser slingshot....a F*CKING SLINGSHOT?! YOU KIDDING ME?! The only thing I give rebels credit for is showing the empire in the beginning. They showed walkers and other things I've only seen in games. They even show the beginning of the heavy star destroyers when they were just prototypes. I'll admit I like that but the show is just so much unlike the clone wars and star wars it doesnt matter
That's a pretty stupid way of describing him. The only similarity he has to Maul is that they both uses double-bladed lightsabers but Maul isn't the only person who uses one besides Krell so you could literally substitute anyone who uses one with Maul and say the same thing. Savage would be more accurate because of his size and strength.
LucarioXF I don't think so, Darth Maul is one of the best swordmasters of all time. I just said I like how his style looks, although it may be not that effective.
Unverschämt well he is quite good at reflecting things. I just think that maul would lose because he couldn't keep up with krell because he is obviously very agile and fast.
Krell was described at the start of the arc as "ruthlessly efficient" - he got the job done, irrespective of the body count. It was shown he ha a prejudice towards the clones, combined with his arrogance he made for a very bad general. However, once he foresaw Order 66, he realized that the Jedi would be exterminated by their very clones. Rather than inform the council, he made plans to defect to Dooku, and had everything gone to plan would have succeeded; however he never anticipated Rex and Fives working out the truth. Shame really, as it would have been brilliant to see a team of Jedi take on Krell, leading to a Windu / Anakin team up.
Pending Storm When he speaks to the clones after his capture, he mentions he had forseen the defeat of the Jedi in the Clone Wars. He may not have known about Order 66 specifically, but he saw its aftermath.
Imagine if all this took place AT Order 66. Krell would be the soul surviving super Jedi, attempting to eradicate the clones through his means, and Dogma would be the clone who didn't go through with Order 66. Wouldn't that be a turn table.
This was probably one of the more defining moments in the show. While many people say the 501st should have beat Krell's ass in an instant due to them slaughtering the Jedi in Operation Knightfall, here's an issue with that argument; the 501st were fighting YOUNGLINGS, Jedi in training, and very few masters or knights were there to even combat the clones. All masters and knights were likely slaughtered by Vader or the overwhelming amount of troopers that they were battling. But that's not saying that the knights and masters didn't get a high body count. I mean, look at how easily Obi-Wan and Yoda dispatched 501st troops AFTER Knightfall occured when Vader WASN'T around to help in the slaying. So, I honestly see little problem with Krell being able to massacre so many clones with ease. :/
Well, Krell did have two double lightsabers and four arms. I'm sure General Grievous would have survived, actually no. Grievous is a coward, he'd escape.
Actually, if you watch the 2003 Clone Wars show, Grievous brutally massacred an entire squad of clones, including a senate guardsman. Lucas was the one who decided to fuck him up and make him a wheezing coward while in the animated show in 2003, he was almost the complete opposite, taking on five Jedi masters at once and take out about half of them before the clones end up having to save their asses.
Darth Rhevar Well if you're going with the 2003 Clone Wars before episode 3. Consider this, that Grievous, before Episode 3 and was in the 2003 Clone Wars, didn't have his internal organs messed up until he was about to go up against Mace Windu during the kidnapping of the Chancellor. So before that happened, Grievous was more of a threat. Afterwards, he was a bit more vulnerable when he was fighting Kenobi on Utapao.
Darth Rhevar Dude it was seriously lame when they did that. Grievous was such a beast in the 2003 Clone Wars series -.- It's sad that they couldn't keep him in his prime for episode 3
Years2010 yeah, but still certain Jedi had the time to react, unless Krell put together a plan way in advance but it didnt seem like he did jumping out a window and all
TBF it seemed evident they had planed on arresting him than killing, considering the fact he ordered him to surrender. It was only after Krell started fighting back did they start using lethal force and even afterwards they did take him alive the first chance they got, . Where as in Revenge of the Sith order 66 was specifically to kill Jedi on sight and even then through books, comics, Star Wars Rebels and various other sources of entertainment we find that a large portion of Jedi did survive order 66, but just went into hiding. Hell in a couple stories some of the clones straight up refused the order.
@VGV Tomato interesting you took that from my comment when it had absolutely nothing to do with race on that note, those are some of lightest skinned black people I've ever seen, especially the original actor who played Jango in the first place. I'd guess he was mixed race first maybe Samoan. But hey, clearly the nameless faceless expendable homegrown army of clones are offensive to black people. I'd be shocked if you found any actual black people who legit think this. This is the kind of racism only an actual racist would thinking. Like racists saying Orcs are black people
I think krill would surrive to because he has two doubled bladed sabres just like Darth maul and his brother but they both have one and there color is only red
+Mario Clone Wars is definitely leap and bounds better than Rebels(so far). Season of Rebels(mostly the season finale) has proved to be a worthy successor for Clone Wars, especially the reintroduction of Rex.
***** i know that but it's been a while since i wathced episode 2 and for a while as i saw krell i was like "haven't i seen that kind of specie before? because i have very faint memory about it..."
yankeefederer1994 yes, the writers sat around a table and were like "alright let's be as lazy as possible and copy dialogue from the movies" instead of "hey let's reference the movies as a nod to the franchise"
Fr3k3 the also probably said lets screw up half the show and break 80% of all the background races and characters like the night sisters and the mandalorians did you know that the "witches" actually don't act like witches and ride rancors and even emperor palpatine was afraid of them so dokou could not send an army there and they DONT USE FRICKING VOODOO DOLLS geez C.N
Evan Michael Sutka I don't know what you're trying to say but I'm going to stop you right at "break 80% of all the background races" There isn't even 80% of all background races in Clone Wars. In fact, there are a lot of obscure races in Clone Wars to prevent precisely what you're bitching about. Second topic: Mandalorians. Mandalorians stopped being war-like conquerors before the Clone Wars. Shit changes. It's called character development (or in this case, civilization development). But I'm sure you forget the story arc of how Mandalore was seized by the Shadow Collective (Sith-backed Mandalorians, surprise surprise). And Maul was only in control of Mandalore for a very very short time. Third topic: the Dathomir Nightsisters ARE witches. They use Sith sorcery and incantations (or "Dark Arts") and there is no written text saying they absolutely refuse to use "voodoo dolls". And the only person Palpatine was afraid of was Gethzerion, which was arguably one of the strongest users of sorcery in the galaxy. Fact is, there isn't a lot of information on her, nor was she active during the Clone Wars. Talzin was the de-facto leader of the Nightsisters during that Era, and Gethzerion only came into relevance during the Rebellion & New Republic Era. And not all Nightsisters rode rancor's during the Clone Wars. It wasn't until well into the New Republic when the Nightsisters had domesticated all of the native populations of rancor. Please don't bitch about breaking lore when you only know a small faction of it.
+Nath an *In previous scene* Krell: Lets play a game; I'll be the Joker and you'll be Batman. Clones: I don't get it. (Krell tricks clones into firing on each other) Ahh!! I get it!!
I like his pov on the clones Interesting that he would do this all on his own without being convinced by any sith lords Edit: he was one of the few jedi that sensed the end of the order so he was hoping he could kill all those clones to get count dooku’s attention and serve under him
Andrés Pétur Axelsson The Clone Wars is canon. So yes the chips were there in the prequels. Without the chips. The clones would hesitate to kill the jedi.
Don't forget that even when he is a giant frog, he has those enhanced senses, agility and speed. So it's like he is fighting against a bunch of slow and clumpsy grandmas (With lasers!)
When Rex talks about thinking for themselves, jeez that’s such an emotional moment, not to mention such a callout to when he disobeys Order 66. These episodes of the series are my favorite, there’s action, drama, betrayal, heroism. YES!
Krell had such a cool and unique character design. It's a shame we never got to see him fight another lightsaber wielder. I would've loved to see how he would do against Savage Opress or General Grievous.
You can see the evolution to Stormtrooper beginning in this episode ark. They routinely showed far more brutality against the Umbarans more than any other episodes, and here, you see they have no problem, as a whole, attacking a Jedi and then to top it off the first graduates from the Stormtrooper School of Marksmanship have finally arrived.
They were pretty brutal against the Umbarans, though I'm not sure if that's really an evolution towards Stormtroopers or just how some Clone Troopers normally are. As for Krell, he was actually the bad guy in this, not the clones.
I remember watching this when I was younger, I just found out that the same guy that voiced Krell is the same guy that voices Lee Everett in The Walking Dead game.
Kinda cool that krell was sent there by the chancellor. Palpatine probably knew about krell and the things he was going to do, and so he wanted the 501st to experience it since they were the ones that were going to enter the jedi temple.
While Clone Wars was on the whole a great series, I honestly think the writers/creators' biggest fuck-up was their treatment of Pong Krell. He could of been a great villain: he has a great design, a cool voice, an awesome fighting style, and an interesting motivation for becoming a bad guy. The fact that he wanted to defect to the CIS, because he misinterpreted an accurate prophecy (the Jedi will be destroyed, the Republic will fall,and the Sith will take over). I can imagine Anakin being the one to hunt Krell down and kill him. The irony being that Anakin was disgusted that Krell betrayed the Jedi and the Republic, and joined the Sith. Also for the topping on the cake, Pong Krell or just Krell, afterwords becomes a byword for traitor (ala Judas, Benedict Arnold and Quisling). But what do they do instead, make him just a racist asshole.
all you guys hatin on the g's with four arms..... na, just kidding....but what I find interesting is that General Krell and Dexter are from the same alien species and yet Dexter is the only one of his kind shown in the live action starwars films. Also, Is grievous a krell cyborg as he has four arms...I know for a fact that he wasn't originally a robot
Tom Ebbs no grievous was a kaleesh who was on the verge of death but saved by the CIS by putting his vital organs into a new cyborg body to help them fight the jedi whom he had a personal vendetta against for murdering his people. he was then trained by count dooku to become the ultimate killing machine we know today (if you consider legends canon and not lucas version of grievous who was just a pansy)
That’s why Obi wan and Anikan wear pieces of clone armour pieces so they could bond with the clones as equals and individuals so they were no more or no less than each other
Not gonna lie but I did not really see Anakin wear clone armour as it was different to what Obi Wan wore, which was thd exact same clone armour colour as all other armour, but Anakin didn't even wear any. If he did, then it was very unnoticeable.
Argonisgema Until you watch season 6, of course, then you find out that most clones didn't have a choice in executing order 66... the protocol was implanted in their brains via organic chips.
Argonisgema Oh, I wasn't trying to prove your point! I was merely pointing out that it wasn't necessarily hypocritical to talk about "not blindly following orders", since they didn't really get to struggle with the "right or wrong" aspect of killing the Jedi, they just did it because their chip implants forced them to obey Palpatine. Hypothetically, a particularly strong-willed clone could disobey orders, but I digress. And clones weren't like robots at all, of course. They were completely normal human beings, excepting the aspect of being less independent (normally) than their unaltered genetic host. Also, they had the chips implanted in their heads in early developmental stages, but the chips were not naturally part of them. Nor did the chips tell them what to do; they forced obedience to Palpatine's orders, whether the clones liked it or not. What I am getting at is: one could easily, and probably accurately, claim that the clones themselves did not "blindly follow orders" to execute order 66. Rather, an organic chip in their brain forced them to do it; they did not make a personal decision (even though most would probably instinctively follow the order due to lack of independence) as they would have as if a Jedi gave them an order. My apologies for this pointlessly and unnecessarily long post.
"You should have listened to the ARC Trooper from the beginning, Captain. He was right! I WAS using you." That's some chilling foreshadowing right there. Especially considering Fives was the ARC Trooper in question, this line could have later been said by Palpatine himself.
Yeah. There's a bunch of interviews about him playing the part. I now see this as Lee being delusional and slaughtering the clones thinking they're walkers. XD
Love the scene but just two things wrong with it 1. Why didn't General Krell kill Captain Rex and the rest of the clones at 1:03? 2. Wow are you sure those clones aren't stormtroopers? Cause they sure have accuracy like one!
+Patrick Rutledge three things wrong with it? if Krell was smart he would have used tactics to beat an army not try to act like a badass and only kill like a thousands at the very most... that's why he died... why doesn't this surprise me? an army beats any strongest warrior espcially if it;s only one sith lord or one jedi master
Patrick Rutledge welll why didn't general krell kill captain rex... uh... cause of plot.... and the secound question you said are you sure those aren't clone troopers cause they have bad aim? well about that, cloens do have good aim, they are facing one of the most powerful jedi... so yea...
Patrick Rutledge also even if he did kill rex would that even matter? no really... cause an army of clones can kill krell... so I hope I answer your question...
Clones are too damned badass. If storm troopers and clone troopers lived in a reversed era (being storm troopers taking the place of clones in the clone wars and clones taking the place of storm troopers in the empire) the galactic empire wouldn't even exist because order 66 would have been a failure. No way storm troopers would have been able to do a clones "job" of taking out the jedi
There is a reason for this. Only elite storm troopers were clones due to the kamioans rebelling and sending an anti clone army against the empire. after which now most Stormtroopers were either clones of different people or volunteers
In the time of the Empire it was more quantity over quality for the most part. Use numbers for intimidation and if that wasn't enough, just send overwhelming troops, since the rebels were never on a scale as large as the CIS it was pretty effective.
This is my Favorite storyline in the whole series. The thought of them killing their own and the general being a traitor.. intense. I cried, I thought, and highly enjoyed watching these troopers in action. A fantastic group of episodes.
Aguvika he's not skill enough to beat the clones... and he never will cause think of this mate, this is basic mate... who will win over 1 million clones or one badass jedi, I pick 1million clones any day:o now droids have the biggest number army in the galaxy, so in other words, Krell can't even think of touching 1 billion droid army;O