"Clone wars is a Kids show." Maul: "Remember kids, the key to any coup is to kill the leader publically to establish dominance and fear in your subordinates."
Bo is just the worst and the fact that she keeps trying to claim the Dark Saber later in and then keeps *losing* it just goes to show that she's just a terrible Mand'Alor, a bad leader, and an overall worthless Mandalorian in general.
@@ashc4167 No bruh his death in Rebels was perfect and a very fitting end to his story. Rebels still sucks but that's one of the few things they didn't fuck up.
I feel like all of Death Watch was just waiting for an excuse to step in when he broke rules of honour, but when he fought honourably, he earned the Loyalists' respect.
@@Muksss But with robotic legs and as Zabrac is much stronger than Human. Also, He uses Force pasivly, to enhance his strengh, speed and durablility further, and for precognition. Noone talks that they are allowed to use only swords.
Clone wars alone is better than all the sjw trash disney has produced by milking the franchise. Ahsoka is better than all those wack-ass characters and a far better constructed "strong female character" than Rey because she is not a forced feminist trope, the story builds her character. I think instead of getting sequels we should have gotten more spin-off shit, like how clone wars was a intermediate between episode 2 and 3
Some stuff I noticed about this battle. >Maul challenges Viszla in front of his men: clear audience and an insurance that Viszla will not refuse (it'd make him look like a coward). This is further emphasized with how Viszla exchanges glances with the rest of the Deathwatch: he must answer the challenge, and he knows it, but this cemented it. >Maul fights the whole battle without using Force, save for that single jump that he used to kick Viszla out of air. He's dueling Viszla not as a Dark Jedi, but as "one warrior to another": exactly how he said he would. A show of twisted sportsmanship, but in reality just an insurance that Deathwatch shall willingly acknowledge his claim if he wins. Not only is it a fair fight from his side, but if he's that tremendous without the Force, imagine him with it. Also, despite Viszla using most of his arsenal, Maul doesn't reciprocate, showing that he can beat Viszla while holding back. >During the swordfighting sequences, Maul never uses a standard two-handed grip unless Viszla is also using it. Again, a show of twisted sportsmanship from his side, since using a two-handed grip would make his swings significantly stronger and thus put Viszla, who is wielding a shorter sword and whose armour would impair him from fluid usage of two-handed grip, at a disadvantage. Only exceptions to this are when he's deflecting the blaster bolts that Viszla is firing at him, which kinda makes it a fair game. >Despite being shown to be largely ambidextrous, Maul is still primarily right-handed. During the one-handed sequences, he'll sometimes switch to holding his lightsabre with his left hand, which presents no apparent tactical advantage other than saying "hey look: I'm crippling myself and still kicking his ass" to the onlookers. >When Viszla disarms him, Maul doesn't take his lightsabre back, even without the use of Force, but instead reciprocates by disarming Viszla and injuring his primary hand (almost exactly what Visza did to him), proceeding to beat him into submission bare-handed. >When Maul knees Viszla in the face (second to last blow), he knocks out a molar, which can be seen flying. >Maul's only proper use of the Force is when he telekinetically calls the Darksabre to him. He already showcased his skill in combat and pretty much won, so now there's no need to stifle himself. Now's the time to show some dominance and look epic while doing it. >Because he was shot in his right hand, Maul uses the Darksabre with his left hand as a primary for the rest of the scene. He also doesn't use his right hand at all in the beatdown sequence. >A close look at Maul's lightsabre reveals that he trimmed the jagged edge that was left when Obi-Wan cut his sabrestaff in half back on Naboo. >Maul's Deathwatch are almost comically slow on the trigger.
the facts the maul switches hands and doesn’t use his injured one to kick pre vizla’s ass shows how much attention to detail the animators put in. just goes to show that nothing will ever really top the clone wars, it’s without a doubt the best star wars content. rebels is a poor imitation, and non of the live action shows or movies (except maybe andor) even come close
Honestly vizsla accepting his death was a much more badass death than what i wouldve expected, his mandalorian warrior code stuck with him till the end and he fought till the end, when he realized he was finally bested he didnt plead or anything, just accepted his fate. True Mandalorian OG
which is more than can be said about bo katan despite wanting her precious "warrior ways" to return, the second those warrior ways went exactly how you would expect them to go she proved herself a hypocrite, and then the rest of SW from that point on proceeded to pretend she was always a heroic freedom fighter and ignored her terrorism Vizsla is something I miss in mandalorians, he was a brutal bad dude, and he didn't pretend otherwise, what he wanted was the return of a barbaric system of the strong dominating the weak, and he accepted what came of it
@@JoseRuiz-yt4vw A; obviously, it continues into the reign of the empire, B; you might want to work on your grammar as that was nearly unintelligible, C; I fail to see how that is even remotely relevant to the joke I was making.
@@ONEIL311 yes he is but he didn't want to rule because he like their culture or want to make them the great warriors they were He simply wanted revenge and just used them for that
+Babylonthegreat Change? Not all accept it. The old ways was the pride of not just the people of Death Watch but of all clans. The Sith have always took part in manipulating Mandalore and the Jedi have always proven to be the greatest enemy since the war with Exar Kun sparked the Mandalorian wars. This is a part of the clans, this is a part of their pride, and even if it means that chaos is brought upon the children of Mandalore before order it is better then order before the chaos.
+Babylonthegreat Not all Mandalorian history is unstable. Under de leadership of Jaster and Boba Fett there was peace in Mandalore. Only the Death Watch stood in Jaster's way. But as you see, I prefer the ways of the Mandalorian Protectors, the ideals of Jaster, Jango, Boba, Fenn...etc. Death Watch are terrorists and some Mandalores where warmongers. But you can't blame an entire culture just because their leaders mader mistakes. And some wars against the Republic where justified.
I like the fact that Bo Katan has been getting nothing but Ls throughout the Star Wars lore. Not submitting to Maul who clearly received leadership through honorable combat, has to ask for help from Jedi who she once hated, regained Mandalore and the Dark Saber only to lose it again, and still didn't managed to get it back because Mando earned right of ownership because he defeated its previous owner through combat.
@@ivanvee7800darth maul: gar Saxon, the time has come execute order 66. Gar saxon: yes my lord. Gar Saxon, and the red mandalorians were told by darth maul to execute order 66 on bo katan, and the blue mandalorians.
I love how they portrayed Vizsla as getting more tired throughout the fight. It seemed realistic knowing Maul is a full trained Sith in lightsaber combat but Vizsla is a master in many different ways.
know that the dude used all those gadgets and maul only had his light saber and combat training AND HE STILL LOST Maul is the greatest Star Wars character in this whole universe
My favorite thing about this fight is that its one of the very few fights we see in star wars where a sith is fighting fair. Maul uses nothing but his saber and melee combat, allowing visla to use whatever gadgets he had on him. He won this fight completely fairly and honorably. The death watch that dipped out on him after won essentially cheated him on the deal, yet he still goes on and further proves that he is more then strong enough to rule.
Maul is a true Sith Warrior. He doesn't betray his own people, values loyalty, and respects the conditions of honorable combat. He is more of a Sith than Sidious can ever imagine.
@@Mediadosidk about that…The sith are, more or less, defined by betrayal and their search for power. The sith code pretty much says victory must be achieved through any cost. Maul isn’t really a sith, both in name or in his actions. He acts more reminiscent of a dark side oriented Qui Gon or a force guru who faces towards the dark side, especially in his later years; he focuses more on the force, acts with characteristics of both sith and jedi, and allows both sides to guide him, though he does lean significantly closer to the dark side than the light one.
@@irohnic473 The Sith Code dictates to search for power, and through this power achieve victory. It encourages ambition, never to be content but to always strive for more. Most Sith used it as an excuse to do anything they desired and to help themselves only. But technically the Code doesn't tell you to be treacherous, honorless and deceptive. If you want to, you can also search power for the good of a group or to help people. The vast majority of Sith are evil, but the Code is not. You can be Sith without being consumed by the Dark Side, all you have to do is to prove the strength of your way and if you win then no Sith has the right to question it.
I genuinely like the philosophy that Mandalorians apply when it comes to a duel. You can use any methods at your disposal to try and win, the only stipulation is that it has to be one on one. There’s no forced or fake “honor” system where they only fight with a single weapon, it’s a test of the full power of one opponent versus another. That’s what makes Maul’s victory all the more impressive in the eyes of a Mandalorian because he had the power to just instantly snap Vizla’s neck but instead chose to limit himself mostly to just physical attacks yet still came out on top.
Maul's facial expression when he holds Vizsla's arm (in other words, wins the fight) proves that he could as well disarm his enemy at the very beginning with his bare hands but he just wanted to make a show out of it. Fortunately, we got one of the best duels in the entire franchise thanks to it.
LOL I don't see how his facial expression proves anything. OBVIOUSLY Maul could have easily beaten out Vizsla easily with the force or even faster but his "facial expression" when he "holds Vizsla's arm" just looks like he's pissed off and enraged as he usually does. No idea on what you're saying here as it's just maul being himself as usually which we all love but what you're saying isn't prove of anything at all.
Maul was actually really fair here. He didn’t use the Force, and allowed Vizsla to use whatever gadgets he had. He could’ve ended the fight by just holding him with the Force and stabbing him, but he proved he had the strength necessary to lead Mandalore.
He did use the force but in minor ways such as a simple force jump and doging lase fire. Maul was fair and only use his skills until Vizla chose to use gadget's. In my eyes this is cheating, and he gave up his right to a proper fight. Maul intended to fight in sword to sword and hand to hand combat. Vizla cheated first by using gadgets. But Maul still chose to use the force so minor to prove himself to Vizla's men.
You are correct, although, if I saw some scary looking dude show up one day, lift my boss up with his mind, and finish him off in 2 seconds, I would be like "aight, I'm with him"
pretty sure maul just did it to humiliate him. lets visla go all all out with his gadgets and weapons, only to unceremoniously pluck them away and quickly outmatch him in basic unarmed combat.
I´m looking forward to roasting of Bo-Karen when that "history will not see it that way" moment will come. She got away with all of the atroccities she commited too easily so far. It´s time for #JusticeForSatine and #JusticeForTorchedVillagers !
Maul didn't use the force to enhance his abilities what so ever. He did it purely with skill. Otherwise it would only take Maul like 2 swings to kill Visla.
If you've ever read or heard about Maul's fight with the Yuuzhan Vong warrior in a prison at the edge of galactic space, you'd know that Maul was just too resistant to pain for Vizsla to beat him
Facts their not traitors their just accepting their new leader who ever is the leader of deathwatch and if that leader loses a challenge of 1v1 combat who ever challenged him is the new leader and if you don’t follow that new leader their traitors to deathwatch
It's more because Death Watch is purist, so they believe only a Mandalorian has the right to rule. Bo-Katan doesn't accept Maul's leadership because he's an outsider, not a true Mandalorian.
Maul is more skilled in lightsaber combat than pre, so he had experience & training with the blade, pre already lost from the moment his and maul's blades clash
@@gregtietze5126 That's right but we have to give him some credit in this fight, you can tell how much he improved from when he fought Kenobi to this fight. Despite not having proper training on actual lightsaber combat that sith and jedi have he sure was one formidable warrior with the blade.
@@SuZRaiden the armor was probably made from durasteel and not beskar, as for the jetpack I don't think we've ever seen one take much punishment so it could be that they're not that tough in the first place, after all Boba's got wrecked from Han poking it with a non-vibro weapon
What makes this duel even better is the fact Vizsla put up a valiant fight and when Maul won he didn’t beg for mercy or try to plead for his life. He accepted his fate like a true Warrior. Maul could have also easily used the force to crush Vizsla but he didn’t. He honoured Mandalorian tradition and fought honourably. The character development this show and Rebels gave Maul is honestly fantastic! One of the best decisions made for the franchise was bringing him back. Xx
Bringing back Darth Maul was one of the greatest things this show ever did. They turned a character who was previously a red devil with multiple yellow horns not to be taken seriously into one of the greatest Star Wars villains of all time.
I mean Darth Maul always WAS a character meant to be taken seriously entirely so. It's just that he wasn't given enough to do in Phantom Menace at all as he doesn't do anything at all except kill qui-gon and that's it. We didn't know anything about him in the slightest or what his character is except that he just LOOKS evil and we assume that he's evil, which he is but that's not enough characterization, and that's about it.
The way Maul fought and defeated Pre Viszla without using The Force until at the very end where he reminded everyone that he's capable of doing so by telekinetically picking up the Darksaber cemented the idea that he is the ideal leader in the mind of the Mandalorians
One of the greatest scenes in Star Wars history - I remember being obsessed with this fight as a kid, watching Maul tactically and gradually overthrow the Vizsla regime behind the scenes so methodically, only to challenge Vizsla in a traditional Mandalorian fashion, to then win and claim Mandalore in his name. I thought the lore was the best thing part of the Star Wars universe bar the original 6 films at the time. And man, has it aged wonderfully - I can't believe this aired over 10 years ago already. Incredible!
@@OrDuneStudios the Darksaber itself has the exact same influence as the Mask of Manda'lor. Plus these Mandalorians wouldn't have let Maul wear Vizsla's armor because it belongs with his family
@@disbarat if the previous leader himself literally says "okay you can rule instead of me" then everyone should have listened, ESPECIALLY because it was his last wish
So Bo Katan had no problems taking orders from Pre-Vizla despite having royal blood herself. I think I’m understanding what the Nite Owls believed in. Traditionally anyone who won the darksaber through combat would be worthy to wield it but to the Nite Owls it goes further that they must also have Mandalorian blood. This was again brought up by Axe Woves when he made the comment about Din Jarin being a zealot who does not have a drop of Mandalorian blood in his veins due to the fact he was a foundling and not a descendant of any of the great houses of Mandalore. This could explain why they also supported Bo Katan in defeating Moff Gideon when he had the darksaber instead of following Moff Gideon who wielded it.
And technically one has to go through the ritual of becoming a Mandalorian before being able to challenge the Mandalore, so it was understandable. Maul is not one of them.
However this also shows her hypocrisy. She follows the Death Watch over her own sister who is the elected leader and claims it's because the Mandalorians have lost their old ways. With that the Death Watch and in extension Bo Katan mean the Warrior culture and the main ruling of the old Mandalorians was the Resol'nare six rules they had to follow in order to be a mandalorian, none of those stipulate you have to be born a Mandalorian quite the opposite, old Mandalorians used to be comprised of many different species and you could just adopt their warrior lifestyle and be considered just as much a Mandalorian as one who was born into the culture. Bo Katan refusing to accept Mail as Manda'lore, their leader after he defeated the previous one in a fair fight shows she doesn't respect the old ways she is claiming to follow and all she ever wanted to do was to be in a position of power. She betrayed her sister to become part of the new ruling elite of Manda'lore along with the Death Watch. And when her position was threatened by Maul taking over she rejected her "ideals" and rebelled while joining forces with the Mandalorians sworn enemy the Jedi to dispose of the rightful Manda'lore Maul. And later she does it again with anyone who has the Dark saber who isn't her and is not opposed to getting the role of leader without following Mandalorian tradition, meaning by winning it in combat.
Season 5: Maul kills Vizsla and Satine in this throne room Season 7: "My lady, is that the way to treat your rightful ruler?" I WAS SO MAD I WAS FUMING OH MY GOD! Maul has no right to speak to Bo after what he did!
@@wheattoast1971 Being Mandalorian is more than just holding the Darksaber. It's a creed, an idea, a *culture* . None of which he shares, nor wishes to share.
@@selonianth Well yeah he doesn’t care about the culture. He just wants control of Death Watch. And in Rebels he did say he ruled Sabine’s people. The ruler of Mandalore is the Mandalor’. Thus maul should be considered Mandalor’.
@@wheattoast1971 Except Satine Kryze was not Mand'alor. She never claimed the title, she never wanted the title. He did indeed rule over Satine's people... because they weren't Mandalorians, just people who lived on Mandalore.
I just had this ridiculous argument with a guy who actually thought Mandalorians weren't humans but aliens that just happen to look human. All because someone was whining about how white people can no longer voice cartoon characters that are poc. When the guy mistakingly said the clones were white and voiced by poc, and I corrected him because the actor of Jango Fett was Maori. This other random person (I don't know what he was thinking), started going off about how 'only aliens should voice alien characters'. And I said 'as far as we know aliens don't exist so they are free game for anyone to voice'. And then he goes 'well since the Mandalorians and clones are aliens does that mean anyone can voice them'. I told him 'they are still humans; humans who became part of the Mandalore culture because of their history of conquests and taking children to raise as their own'. This guy just absolutely loses it and starts saying made up excuses about how I'm being a hypocrite and I'm wrong about Mandalorians and that they aren't really human. Thankfully he eventually dipped out because I think he realized he was losing the argument. But it was bizarre; he said he didn't care about who voiced who then started off on weird tangents to try to make me slip up.
I agree with her tho. Maul is not a Mandalorian, and that's pretty much a dealbreaker. Edit: Ok, to avoid any further misunderstandings, I KNOW Mandalorian is not a race. I never said aliens can't be accepted into the culture. The point I'm making, which so many seem to perfectly miss, is that Maul is not a Mandalorian, NOT because he's not human, but because he never really embraced the Mandalorian culture.
@@pulsarwave9248 He had every right to deny Maul of the duel, but he would just lose his credibility as a warrior. Maul knew Pre Vizsla was egocentric and he would accept it.
@@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 yeah and pre visla used flame throwers guns and disks to fight him so maul is the better fighter without the force pre visla wasn’t that skilled at it at all
This feels weirdly realistic. Maul has the upper hand at one point, but doesn't have the energy to follow with a leading blow, so backs off to continue the fight. Pre Visla has the upper hand at other points, but forces himself to use every last bit of energy which seems to ultimately cost him the duel. It's extremely well choreographed even for a cartoon, and one I feel most real life brawls can learn from. Or maybe I'm a clone wars simp lol
lol what? Maul has "the energy" at EVERY point throughout this fight, Maul just doesn't go all out to make a show in front of his men to prove that he's worthy of commanding them all! That should be obvious. There is no "doesn't have the energy to follow with a leading blow" AT ALL as he ONLY "backs off" to prolong the fight for showmanship. Maul is CONSTANTLY enraged and full of energy, we've never seen him "lack" ANY form of energy at all. Maul always has the upperhand for the most part throughout the whole fight but him getting slightly injured was real and the cost of prolonging the fight. OBVIOUSLY Maul could have easily beaten out Vizsla easily with the force or even faster beforehand but he had to prove himself to be leader than making a very fast anti-climatic kill for everyone which wouldn't work for his benefit to manipulate the Mandalorians' sense of honor.
I can't believe we didn't get a moment b/w Bo and Paz where she reflected upon serving alongside Pre Viszla... I mean why the fuck not? It would be an awesome way to connect the two shows.
@I am Cornholio By that logic then the first person to give birth to another person led to the deaths of all people to have died at the hands of another human.
I am Cornholio This is why it's important to actually learn history, instead of have "professors" try to twist the lesson with something they got from an activist blogger. Myth: Columbus did not actually discover anything. FACT: Columbus discovered America. When he set sail in 1492, no one on either side of the Atlantic knew the other was there. His voyage initiated the first continuous engagement between the peoples of the European and American continents. He brought together diverse cultures previously unknown to each other and sparked a mutually beneficial exchange of goods and ideas. Viewed from either side, his was most certainly a voyage of discovery. Myth: Columbus committed genocide. FACT: Columbus did not commit genocide. He sought to form good relationships with the native peoples of the New World and had no intention of doing them any harm. He had intended to sail to Asia, a land both populous and technologically advanced. His intent was trade and evangelization, not conquest. In exploring and settling the New World, Columbus frequently ordered his men to treat the natives well and not commit injustices or atrocities against them. Columbus punished and even executed some of the settlers who went against his orders and abused the natives. Scholars like Stanford professor emeritus Carol Delaney describe his interactions with the native peoples as generally benign and his motivations as religious; he was not violent, hostile, or cruel to those he encountered. Furthermore, the vast majority of the natives who died in the years after Columbus’ arrival succumbed to communicable diseases inadvertently transmitted by the Europeans rather than from any intentional act on the part of Columbus, his men or the settlers. Myth: Columbus is to be blamed for bringing diseases to the New World that killed many natives. FACT: Inadvertently, Europeans did bring communicable diseases to the New World for which the native peoples had little or no immunity, and great numbers died as a result. Some diseases may also have been spread to the Europeans by the natives. The vast majority of indigenous peoples who died in the years following the European settlement of the New World perished from disease rather than from conflict or abuse at the hands of European settlers. This is a tragic, unintended consequence of the encounter between two cultures, but certainly not something for which Columbus - or anyone else - can be held responsible or culpable. Myth: Columbus introduced slavery to the New World. FACT: “Slavery was common, even among [native] people in the Caribbean,” according to former Stanford anthropologist Carol Delaney. However, slavery was not Columbus’ goal; friendship with the native peoples was. Even today, enemy combatants are often captured and imprisoned, and criminals are often assigned to do manual labor. Myth: Columbus sought to force the natives to work. FACT: Columbus resisted efforts to force the natives to work. He expected his own men to build the settlements, search for natural resources, and perform their own labor. When he consented to using native laborers, he sought to compensate them properly as vassals of the Spanish crown. However, Columbus’ men violated these standards. Facing rebellion and under duress, Columbus allowed a system of labor already instituted by the rebels. Columbus himself is well-documented to have advocated for just treatment of the natives. Myth: Columbus was a brutal man. FACT: Columbus often sought to restrain his men from mistreating the native peoples. In a time when some would question whether the native peoples of America were truly human, Columbus immediately acknowledged their humanity and innate dignity. He recognized them as humans with immortal souls and was concerned for their salvation and their right to choose freely to embrace the Christian faith. He even adopted the son of a native chief as his own son. Myth: Columbus forced his religion on the natives. FACT: Columbus was a devout Christian who desired to introduce the native peoples to Christianity, but he did not force any to convert. He specifically saw the Indians as “a people who would be better freed [from error] and converted to our Holy Faith by love than by force,” as he wrote in his diary. He asked the monarchs and the Pope to send priests who would learn the native language and instruct the people in the Christian faith prior to baptism. Myth: Columbus was arrested and returned to Spain in chains for his cruelty against the natives. FACT: After his third voyage, while he was governor of Hispaniola, Columbus was indeed arrested and taken back to Spain in chains, but it was for actions taken against rebellious European settlers. He had punished and even executed some of the Europeans for abusing the natives. Bartolomé de las Casas, although sometimes critical of aspects of Columbus’ administration, wrote of the “sweetness and benignity” of the explorer and added: “Truly, I would not dare blame the admiral’s intentions, for I know him well and I know his intentions were good.” Myth: Columbus was only after gold, glory and his own self-interest. FACT: Columbus surely desired to be rewarded and recognized for his efforts, but these were not his primary driving motives for his voyages to the New World. His motivations, for the most part, were religious, including the desire to bring Christianity to foreign lands. Myth: Columbus was a poor navigator. FACT: Columbus was a skilled navigator who made an unprecedented voyage across the Atlantic and found the New World. Although Columbus did not reach Asia as he had hoped, his voyages revealed an entire continent previously unknown to the people of Europe. Because he kept journals of his voyages, he blazed a path for other explorers to follow. In addition, Columbus did something none of his contemporaries had done before him: He sailed west into the unknown, found land and returned safely. Myth: Columbus is a symbol of white supremacy. FACT: In fact, the Ku Klux Klan in particular has demonstrated enormous hostility to Columbus because he was Italian and Catholic, rather than Anglo-Saxon and Protestant, which aroused their anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic bigotry. Historically, the KKK actively protested Columbus celebrations and monuments to the explorer.
I love the fact the during this duel Satine’s portrait is almost always in the background. She’s been overthrown and now the violence that, however flawed her ideology may have been, was holding back, is already tearing apart mandalor as all she can do is watch.
I don't think many notice how smart Maul was in this scene. Not once in the entire fight does Maul fall back on the Force, instead relying on his inherent skill with a lightsaber and his agility, even when Vizsla is using all of his gadgets against him. The fact that shows the rest of the soldiers that he can defeat their leader without falling back on his Force abilities speaks volumes about how powerful he is but it also shows that he is willing to handicap himself for an honor bound duel, which earns their loyalty. Yeah, Maul knew he could win without the Force but he also had to use Mandalorian culture to his advantage.
Honestly when I saw this when it first aired years back. I agreed and was shocked that any and in fact so many(like less then a dozen I know but still a lot more then I thought) would run off and fight against Maul.
@@tomn6269 Think he means more explicitly like force choking Vizla or pushing him away. Cause like he did pull the sword towards him and enhance his agility with the force. But he easily could have throw Vizla around if he wanted to.
Maul was actually the more honorable fighter, he appeared to reframe from using the force and only used a lightsaber. I think his claim to the throne is just.
Exactly. This is why I hate Bo Katan lol. She and her followers are anything *but* loyal to the Mandalorian code, which they broke the instant Vizla was defeated by pretty much plot-armour-betraying everything they fought for. Instead of honourably challenging Maul she basically said "fuk dis", got a buttload of Republic help because "muh planet", and drove Mauls supporters to the breaking point and off world. She's probably the most cowardly "Mandalorian" out there honestly.
***** oh no she dared to use her brain realizing that she could not defeat maul in one on one combat Also no one on death watch has the right to say anything about honor Pre Vizla was no warrior he was a blood thirsty warlord who will sooner break a nose than follow any code(remember his fight against obiwan?) And finally I thought only people born into mandalorian culture could could become Mandalore so maul being Mandalore already break's this idiotic code(about as effective as the Jedi code)
Bringing back Maul was literally one of the smartest things Star Wars EVER did. They made him a shockingly three-dimensional character while still remaining to be a threatening (or more threatening imo) antagonist!!!
Never thought about this, Palpatine almost ruined his own plans due to his cruelty. Unfortunately for his subordinates, he's an actually hands-on boss.
@@dartharbiter4774 it is indeed a kids show, but this does not mean a kids show can not be deep, as with adult shows being a superficial mess is possible as well
@@rachelhanville9053 I don't dislike her, but it did feel like everyone forgot about her deathwatch career pretty quickly and that part when she tried to shame Obi Wan for not wanting to avenger her sister, who she had helped overthrow and imprison, was low.
@@jaohonaxa Well I mean she shouldn't shame Obi-Wan but her sister did just die and she's young. I watched an interview that had Katee Sackhoff in it and she said Bo was eighteen at the oldest in CW. Still she shouldn't have shamed him, even if she was upset about her sister dying and probably thought she was doing what was right by Mandalore. If anyone wants to see the interview where Katee says her age, I can share it. I don't know if anyone will but I have the link. People usually think she's older in CW than she is.
@@Soup-man lol no I’m not. The obiwan kenobi show had an overall WAY better fight than this one. And this fight was epic enough already. Despite all the problems that show had, that final fight in the kenobi show was massively epic!
@@Gadget-Walkmen Yeah, Kenobi was terrible. The fight was neat (albeit pointless) but the ending made no sense. Like if Kenobi knows what Vader became and he beat him, why let him live? The writing was awful. I still prefer this one personally.
@@Soup-man Can’t see how in ANY way how anyone can prefer this fight over the final fight over between Vader and Obi-wan as that fight was phenomenal from how fantastical well done it’s handled, especially in live action. You do you but I REALLY don’t see it as maul vs pre-viszla is amazing but nowhere near emotionally gripping and brutally intense as the final fight between them especially how well down the choreography all is! It’s WAY more than just “nEaT” as it’s WAY more than that. I wouldn’t say it’s at all “PoiNtlEsS” in the slightest but yeah keeping him alive wasn’t the best choice especially since he just sees him as just another evil sith who needs to die. Despite it all, that final fight was incredible throughout and how all lightsaber fights SHOULD strive to be. The writing overall for kenobi wasn’t good at all as the show should have been a MOVIE and that movie should have had obiwan STABLED onto Tatoonie and never left there at all. I thought we were going to have a character study movie, like the movie Logan or even Joker, on Obiwan surviving and training in the desert, trying to communicate with Qui-gon through Yoda’s lessons and with some flashback scenes back to his old life as he tries to protect Luke (there was an obiwan comic about this already and the show REALLY should have used that as a template as the question “what was obiwan doing throughout his years in tatoonie?” was already answered beforehand) but that’s NOT what we got at all. You knew things were sketchy the second when obiwan buried his lightsaber in the desert and talking down to himself, how he can protect Luke if he can’t even doesn’t have trust in himself to be a fully competent Jedi? It’s fine for Obiwan to have internal struggles and conflicts inside his head especially from all the things he’s been through and that’s expected for internal conflict but he shouldn’t let that define him during his mission there. Obiwan always prevailing and sticking towards the Jedi code, no matter HOW bad things got for him, is always what made him a true Jedi! Unfortunately as a whole, yeah Kenobi was unfortunately terrible as it should have had Kenobi ONLY in the desert and SHOULD have had a movie with high budget look to the whole thing. The obi-wan show looked cheap and especially when you compare it to how PHENOMENAL Andor is visual wise as Andor looks GORGEOUS throughout! But that final fight was pure gold and the standard on how ALL lightsaber fights should be. Having trained fighters who look like expertly trained swordsmen clashing but have weight to their strikes and movements do it can get off kinetic energy to their movement. AS WELL as using a vast array of force abilities as they’re not just swordsman at all! That’s what ALL lightsaber fights should strive to be!
Count Dooku the only reason he didn’t get his neck broken with the force as soon as Maul walked in the room was because, he knew none of the other deathwatch members would follow him if he did it. It’s nowhere near as impressive when you factor in that Maul was holding back.
@@thomasraines1396 there is no way pre visla doing as well as he did isnt impressive. Even against a supressed maul (who was still trained to be an assasin from early childhood). Of course he fought him on equal terms as a warrior to prove he wasnt weak without powers to the mandalorians. But he did respect pre visla, he didn't beg or cry just accepted his own terms on his honor as a warrior and i think thats something even the most cold hearted of us can respect and admire. Pre visal did great for a non force sensitive person and idk how u see otherwise tbh.
I really like how Pre Viszla accepts his death at the end and essentially admits that Maul is not only stronger but rightfully earned his right to rule. It shows that even for all his criminal actions, Pre Viszla is still very much an honourable person who genuinely believes in and follows Mandalorian traditions. Contrast that with Gar Saxon who tried to shoot Sabine even when she chose to give him mercy, and it really puts both Mandalorian leaders in perspective. One was a misguided extremist who earned and understood respect, the other was a thug who only gained power by working for someone else.
yayogoku7 X well maul wasn’t a sworn in mandalorian that showed any signs of respecting mando culture, so I can see why Bo Katan didn’t accept him as a ruler.
@@user-pu1rv5ck5b Vizsla, though an ultranationalist warmonger, was still bound by honor and the tenets of Mandalorian culture. Satine (along with all the other New Mandalorians) was elitist, Bo-Katan was racist, and Almec and Saxon were both opportunists who only came to power by sucking up to whoever was in charge (for Almec, it was Satine and then Maul, and for Saxon, it was Vizsla, then Maul, and then Palpatine).
The fact that maul is not using any destructive force abilities nor his main light saber style (since he doesn't have the double blade light saber) and still be victorious is just crazy.
Props to Vizla for being able to go toe to toe with Maul in saber combat,notice how Maul didn't use any force powers to prove he was the better warrior. keep in mind force users have that sense where they can guess an opponents strike and movements and regular people don't so again very impressive by Vizla,he even didn't get killed by obi wan who is the master of form 3
I was rewatching Infinity War the other day and I realized something weird. When Thanos makes that quote, the drop of blood is red, but when Thor hits Thanos with his axe, the Axe has purple blood on it. I guess the production team didn't notice the inaccuracy.
Same. I really like him too. He's a warrior who is bound by his mandalorian honour with pride and dignity. This here shows how full of honour he is, how he died with dignity accepting his fate and how he was even more qualified than he was.
Grant Wilson - That "whiny" Mando was Satine's sister, Bo-Katan. She had been divided with her sister for decades, having enslaved herself to Mandalore's martial history and traditions. It was only when a former Sith lord took over her planet that she realized just how destructive those traditions were, and she finally broke away from them.
I don't know if this was intentional but Maul's finishing moves on Visla seem distinctly inspired by Muay Thai/ Lethwei. His final blow to knock Visla down is a push kick to the face, in those cultures putting the sole of your foot on your opponents' head is the highest form of disrespect. A nice touch by the choreographers IMO.
She didn´t even demand rematch because she would die too. So she is more like that type of person when you win fairly she says you cheated and then tries to cheat in a rematch without letting you know there´s a rematch (her unsuccessful blaster attack on Maul in the last season).
She's a hypocrite. If she wasn't okay with the possibility of an outsider ruling Mandalore, she shouldn't have allowed this duel to happen. At least try to argue with Viszla.
Ngl you gotta respect maul, a literal verteran sith lord, not using force abilities as to make it a fair fight. Dude knew what he was doing earning the respect of half the deathwatch and killing visla in an honorable way. Loved this show so much.
