Genesis G70 3 3t vs BMW M340i vs Cadillac CT5 V, the best sedan king drag and roll race battle. 

Fume. Seems like a really cool product ngl. 👍

Would love to see the cts-v with a tune and what kind of a difference that would make

Btw Sam I believe someone is using your name for your channel on Telegram just giving you a heads up they tried reaching out to me and asking me for my name and what city I live in.

@@gabrielomalley6266 definitely not me. But thank you.

Sam, can you please do the ford explorer ST (V6 twin turbo ) next please

Well yeah it is until a car of the same generation like the C43 w206 model comes out…

@@marsallen4298 You'll see that the ass whoopings will continue regardless of what comes out!😂

Their power figures are underrated and we all know that so no point in cheering them on. It’s like handicapping the competitors. 🙄

BMW isn’t doing anything special but I bet their sells are way up lol look at how well their marketing is working. They got people in comment sections all over the internet selling their cars for them all because they lied about the numbers and got fanboys feeling like hero’s 😂 I need to invest in bmw so I can collect some residual fanboy checks in the mail🤔🤔🤔

Too bad they never adjusted the camera angle to show it.

different because it's so damn ugly, that grill/front end bro🤣

@j rex what do u drive big boii 👀 prob never seen one either rippppp videos* never do justice on any car

@@jrex3575 not as ugly as you 🖕. The number of losers on this channel grow all the time.

Love my 2022 loaded SP G70! went with it over the m340 due to overall cost-initial 15k more than G70-higher cost of ownership-but definitely a great car. But the G70 is much more rare, and I like that. Also the ride and handling of the Genesis is superb and would surprise most people.

@@shinedownfly same here 💯 makes most sense, looks amazing, has the power and interior is insane for what you get.

The newer xdrive systems work so well in the snow and are a blast when you hoon it around. Was drifting my m240i in the snow earlier this morning here in Illinois.

A literal rocket ship??? 😁

Same with my M240i! Absolute monster even bone stock! I haven't lost yet, and raced many cars!👍🙂

Any car can be greag in the snow wit winter setup

Beautiful car!

m340i also costs way more then your G70 3.3t, The Genesis smashes on value, also what trim is yours? Awesome color combo, thank you for not getting boring black. My buddy has the sandstone grey and green exterior it's like a bentley

@@roboticvenom1935 I got mine Tasman Blue with Black interior, red stitching for the trim, I went allll out

A 2023 genesis 3.3t at my local dealership is $57,235. A 2023 m340i is $57,400…..Genesis is a terrible terrible value. You’re paying all that money for a Hyundai…. Bad decision.

@@bustanutist that m340i is a complete BASE model or what? BMW offers jack shit standard equipment wise. Genesis probably has options. Search NATIONWIDE for Genesis's instead of relying on your local dealer for an anecdote, idk your exact area. How's it a Hyundai? It's a RWD luxury platform that no Hyundai uses.. those are FWD sedans

@@roboticvenom1935 It’s not anecdotal if it’s what dealers are actually selling the car for instead of Msrp. You genesis people I swear lmaooo. It’s a Hyundai because genesis was Hyundai. The cars weren’t selling to well so Hyundai made genesis it’s own brand so people wouldn’t know it’s just a Hyundai. A few years ago it was Hyundai Genesis. The cheapest new one I see for the awd sedan is 51,300. That’s a lot for an imitation car. Save for an extra month and buy the real thing.

Damn u say they want 70gs for that Cadi and it's not even a Blackwing??? I'll stick with my Kia Stinger gt that I bought brand new for almost half the price. Paid 36k new in 2020.

M340 FTW

@Selfmadejay it won yes, cost a lot more then the G70, and the cost for parts when that thing has problems yea, I'll stick with a G70

@@willyswheelsg70modding99 ehh b58 far more reliable and has more tuner options , and there’s all types of cars that are more budget friendly that has the b58

@@selfmadejay01 by “budget friendly” you mean older I assume…name one sedan with the B58 that has the features the G70 offers at that lower price point. Personally I’d take the M340i cause the performance is worth it but it’s def going to cost more.

BMW only competes with themselves. 240i, 340i, 440i 😂

The new bummers are no joke

They put down pretty close to what they advertise at the engine so yeah

Unreliable junk

The BMW M models (including M340i, M440i, etc) have "power assist" from the battery, to add power to the engine, like a power boost. A little battery power can do wonders on top of dual turbo engines. So yes, BMW cheated because they didn't openly disclose to the public. So yeah, it's not a fair comparison. Try adding some battery assist on the Genesis and see you would see unsatisfied (or disturbing) results for the BMW. At least the Mercedes doesn't cheat like this and optimized their V8 bi-turbo platform..

And it's impressive from a stock non M car. People look for any excuse to downplay Bmw's success as the best inline 6 manufacturer in the industry. There's a reason they've won so many engine of the year awards over and over again. Look it up.

@@rodgazinya Under promise and over deliver. German car makers understand this.

Don’t they fall apart though

Shouldn't the BMW be a 540i to compete against the Caddy? Also a G80, for that matter.

@@uofan1 different lower powered version of the B58 in 540i.

I think their approach is "our cars produce this under the worst conditions" I appreciate it. What good are stats that are not obtainable...

damn you poor they just build better cars😂

Hahaha ///M POWER for life

So tell me.. whats bad about it?

Sure that helps on insurance as well. More car companies should adopt this method. Maybe you could say that's to the wheels instead of crank horse power.

Put a JB4 tune on the G70 and it will be par with the BMW.

@@manny9853 Now jb4 the bmw...game over

@Manny yea we did, he had me on a dig I had him on the rolls,

@@manny9853 I'm also not the best lunches yet lol, working on it

From a dig, I bet you are right. Put them on a variety of road courses, and the Caddy will probably win every time, followed by the BMW, then the G70.

@Nathanael Cole highly doubt that.. what makes you think the Caddy would outperform a watered down M car on the track?

@@layne4376 I hadn't seen, will go check out. I didn't realize this was an AWD CT5V though and if we are talking AWD, I don't feel as confident in lap times. Give the proper RWD a go at it.

@@adriant9580 Because the CT5 V replaced the CTS V-Sport and is itself a watered down V. The V-Sport had 420 hp and 430 lb-ft torque, but GM stated that despite the loss in HP and the relative same weight, the CT5 V was faster in their circuit road course testing. The V-Sport was on an older version of the Alpha platform, the CT5 V (all CT5) are on the latest Alpha platform. The CT5 V has the magneride and ELSD which are huge for track times. Not sure on the brakes, but I know the CTS V-Sport had basically the biggest Brembos you could fit behind an 18" wheel up front. Cadillac puts an emphasis on tracking a car, more so than straight line speed. The CT5 V tops the regular M5 on most tracks too. it is kind of their thing.

@@nathanaelcole8466 okok good to know

The BMW M models (including M340i, M440i, etc) have "power assist" from the battery, to add power to the engine, like a power boost. A little battery power can do wonders on top of dual turbo engines. So yes, BMW cheated because they didn't openly disclose to the public. So yeah, it's not a fair comparison. Try adding some battery assist on the Genesis and see you would see unsatisfied (or disturbing) results for the BMW. At least the Mercedes doesn't cheat like this and optimized their V8 bi-turbo platform..

Don’t believe the other comment, it’s nonsense. The race would be much closer, but the transmission and the tuning of the tcu and ecu is also better in the M340i. In the end it’s mostly going to come down to what turbo(s) they decided to to pair with the engine. The Kia/Hyundai 3.3t has pretty good sized turbos that go well with the displacement of the engine. The B58 turbo compared with the N55 pwg turbo is a huge difference

@@PapiAndrey I am afraid that they used quite of battery power (beside voltage), more than they advertised, to move these BMW cars to go significantly faster, 2020 model or not, what they are disclosing aren't entirely true. They aren't telling everything that people need to know about. Without the addition of battery power it is physically impossible to move the car go that quick with its engine and transmission alone...

@@noobz5056 you don’t know what you’re talking about. I just explained to you that there is no different in performance between the m340i with the 48v and without it. I just told you that the fastest m340i’s to ever come out of the factory were the 2020’s without the mild hybrid system. Get this nonsense about “physically impossible” out of here. A simple tune will make it much quicker than with any 48v system.

@@noobz5056 you sound salty. Bmw won. It’s over .

That goes the same with the C300 Amg line and a c43 you cant really tell the difference unless you see the badges body styles are similar. C300 c43 isnt as huge of a difference as a 330i to M340i in performances though

Been there. Never get tired of jumping from Eco Pro to Sport+ when someone wants the the smoke lol

@@marsallen4298 c43 are pretty quick as well, I saw that guy with the c43 in front of me and I knew he was the c43 I used to work at the Mercedes dealership for almost 3 years so it's easy to identify them, there was also a badge on it. I decided to push him a little so I could race him. After he decided to give some but I have the 535d f10 tuned to almost 360hp and he couldn't lose me. After few km the road got into two lines and so he waited for me to see what BMW was able to keep up with him but he denied to race with me after lol

@@misterdragzon exactly lol. I don’t ask to race anyone but there’s always someone who wants the smoke whenever I drive the car

@@derekwhyle1884 I’m at least aware of trim levels within the scope of my current vehicle. This is my first BMW and I came to realize it’s kind of a club, where I get waves and salutes, from lower trims and full M trims above mine. I’m in my thirties and I don’t ask to race anyone. Those that try with me, they seem to not know the difference so it’s funny when they realize they got a lot more than they think they asked for 😂

Bmw is the way to go bro! I own a x3M40i and that 382hp isn’t so! That’s got to be to the wheels!

if a g70 with a tune beats a stock m340 that means it sucks

He gets me everytime no matter what

@@ralph02136 it's true. It would beat a BMW if it was tuned.

True.

Lol

@@Sergesedd22 BMW lies about hp. To answer you're comment you Posted. That's how they won. They are quoting whp as crank

Not really punching advice its weight. It's a $57K performance BMW. Fits right in its class. 👍

Always

You'd still get walked

The 3.3s can’t run full E85 with the stock hpfp. Most I’ve seen so far was E70.

Better buy a stinger. Cheaper and same engine

@@shabanajannik2600 ehh idk, ive seen lap3 g70s head to head with mhd downpipe 340s and even pull on them top end…

@hellzhonour....i only run 4 gallons of E85 at a time, Lap 3 guy told me no more.

Cadillac didn't build the V to Compete with these cars. They have the blackwing For racing and track times

boring car, boring interior.

@@awhs5435 fast as hell though 🤓

@@awhs5435 Relative to what?

@A WHS subjective. That opinion doesn't matter.

@@awhs5435 absolutely seething

Agree

They detune because of the 10 year warranty. Regardless, the b58 can push 600whp with boltons.

Fueling is a issue with the genesí

Its only because BMW updates their engines more frequently than their competitors, whenever another company comes out with a new vehicle like AMG with its hybrid C63s and C43 they get walked… yes the w205 is slow to the G82 it came out in 2015 but when mercs release their new cars its over

Nice but expensive! Most BW's are going over MSRP.

It’s a classy Hyundai

@@eltingville81 That you can't afford. That's why you're here hating hard bro.

Worth every penny for peak ICE

Yup. BMW is definitely not winning the "bang for your buck" award.

My short list was 2023 G70 and 2023 M340i. I knew the M was quick but couldn't justify the spend. Went with the G70. Coming in second to a beast is respectable!

Found a low-mileage 2022 CPO (Pre-LCI) and saved a bundle over new…definitely the way to go.

2016-2018 340i are the same car basically you don’t need an M340i when you can replace the TU Pump for $1000 tops

We really need a race between the CT5-V and the TLX Type S, they’re so closely matched on paper

I swear they give numbers to the wheel labeled as crank.

I just got a 2021 lol

Nah they have like 350-360whp (382hp) g70 has 330ishwhp (365hp)………idk about caddy.

the b58 in the supra makes around 380 whp

the b58 in the new 2022 m240i can push 405-410 hp at the wheel and 550 Nm stock torque figures which translates to around 440hp at the crank. It was dyno tested.

Huh? That 10 speed lost 4 of 5 and came in second 1 time I don't think it got much of anything

Yea you can easily spend like 100k on it and still not be finished with it lml it’s already as much as a base m5 in the states

For real, he also had a late jump on the drag #1 Caddy is also about 200lbs heavier since it's AWD

I think Cadillac is honest about the 360 hp though and I have always thought the 3.3T rated at 365 HP was a bit underrated, not BMW levels underrating lol, but not fully honest.

The g70 torque is around 380 to the wheels and correct 320ish hp

I asked this before and he said he is unable to find something reliable to do it I believe

@Blue Moon shit I use a dragy and mines pretty accurate and they have other ones much more accurate

@@layne4376 nah, what about a tuned m340 vs a 911 turbo s

@@layne4376 tuned g70 e30 g70 beat tuned e30 m340i on auto glory channel

The new 2023 C43 w206 is putting bus lengths on it

@@marsallen4298 that 4 banger isn’t touching any of these cars… guaranteed it’ll blow up before it even hits 100mph.

@Juan tf you mean its not touching anything the A45 already gaps the m340i with its 4 cylinders and NONE OF THEM have blown up💀 you sound like a hater you mad you’re gonna be studying AMG tail lights in your horrible sounding popcorn machine.

What else is out there besides a piggy back tune and the normal intake/exhaust?

Lol

I would liked to see that too, also the 🏁ct5 v blackwing then we will see the best sedan 🏁

Yes!!

I think it would be even more humbling experience for other 2 cars as bmw usually dynamically excels in that class of cars!

@Layne I just watched both, and the only difference I see is the BMW's power on the straits! In the corners, the 340i wasn't that good. Understeer/ tire squeal. I believe if they had the same power, the Caddy would beat it.

@Layne the type s did it in 3:06, and the Caddy did in 3:04, so I'm not sure what video you watched. Also, under braking and turn in the Caddy was far more composed. I'm not hating on the 340i because I'm getting an 2018 m240i shortly so it's not like I'm a Homer.

@@frednugent8068 what was the G70 time? Speaking of, I saw a video of a RU-vidr (can’t remember who it was) but he raced both G70 RWD 3.3t and G70 AWD 3.3t and the RWD version was 6 seconds faster on the track!

@MarvelvsDC I saw a 2019 rwd lightning lap and it was a 3:07.

Yup, its also way more expensive......