Genshin Impact's New Player Experience Is Getting Worse 

About the region locked materials, I think a good solution would be to have an NPC or something offering, let's say, a Perpetual Heart in exchange of 3 or 5 or something like that of Everflame Seed or whatever especific items you have in the regions you have unlock and remove this option once you get to the region where the item you need is. This will allow you to level up any character regardless of when you start playing while keeping attractive the idea of getting to new regions and explore them because of the cost of wasting a large amount of still valuable items

As a relatively new player, one thing I was annoyed about was events being locked behind archon quests. It feels bad to know I'm missing out but can't possibly catch up in time :c

When my friend first started playing Genshin he got Yoimiya in his first ten pull on the event banner. Then a few days later he spam messaged me asking if I knew where her materials were because he wanted to ascend her as she was his favourite character. I had to explain that he needed to get to the Inazuma archon quest in order to unlock the bosses and materials. By the time he reached there he had already gotten more characters and had already gotten them to higher levels, now he’s given up trying to use Yoimiya and she’s stuck on his account at level 20. This kinda made me realise the ‘new player lockout’ issue and kinda makes me nervous that people who start playing genshin when Shneznaya is released and get a character who needs Scheznaya materials might have to wait till probably AR 40 at least to get their materials. Genshin really needs to add a way to fix this otherwise new people will be discouraged from playing!

Idea to fix this: There's a shop part of the Adventurer's Guild where you can exchange certain things for other items specific to other regions

Honestly the new player lockout is such a nightmare I can easily see newbies quitting and I can't exactly blame them I didn't realise how bad it was until I made an alt and got Yae Miko but can't level her til I get to enkonomiya so she's just stupidly weak in contrast to the rest of the 4 stars in my account They've gotta address this soon before it becomes a bigger problem

I started playing in early December, and the biggest new-player-pain I've felt is missing past events, especially those that contained lore or event-exclusive weapons. I was so happy to pull Albedo at the end of his banner, but I was too low AR to do his event and snag a Cinnabar Spindle. Now at AR48 it pains me so much having absolutely no possible way to get him his best-in-slot weapon : /

There was a time where they made all of Kazuhas ascension materials available in a temporary area before it was moved to inazuma. If they just adopt that strategy once in a while they could allow players to redeem character specific materials within the temporary event area at the same time the banner is up. A smaller version of this could simply be to add sidequests that happen to have you fight certain bosses much in the same way as the electro hypostasis is fought in 3 different locations (despite only giving rewards in one). Rebuilding the jade chamber actually rewards you with Shenhe materials so the same can be done to sidequest rewards. It wont be a lot but it's just a little to give a few more levels before you get to farm the actual boss. After all at a certain level you will already have a high enough AR to already have access to the resources you need. Plus its not likely you'll have multiple characters requiring those materials so its not like it takes away from the grind or leaves you thinking how to spend it.

I’m more concerned about the quest lockouts. Once you get to a certain AR, there should be a bank of past events that you can play. And they would slowly be unlocked according to your story progression. (Just like how there are separate pages for character events & hangouts in the quest menu.) I missed out on a bunch of events when I first started playing last year… & it was so frustrating to log on, see the pretty event pages and not be able to participate whatsoever. - Players are not only missing out on the experience and limited items, but they’re also missing out on so much lore/character development. So at least let players experience them _eventually_ instead of not at all.

I liked how Mondstadt and Liyue were close enough that you can walk to Liyue even at a low AR level. I was shocked when Inazuma first came out because you had to progress in the story in order to get there and to explore more than the first island

I replayed Genshin during Itto’s banner, and I got him, and was so excited to use him cause I thought he was so cool, then I realised his ascension materials aren’t found anywhere until the archon quests 😭

Maybe they can add a banner for each region, and when you START an archon quest, you unlock that region banner, so that new players will start with the characters that were firstly added and then as time progresses, they will introduced to all the characters

Another problem is the events. New players can’t go into most of them because they’re locked behind a level cap.. imagine being ar16 and there’s a fighting event going on for ar35

I really wondered why they didnt give Shenhe Cryocube's ascension mats. I honestly have no idea what was the thought process that lead to that decision. I wasn't able to enjoy Enkanomiya's introduction as much because they had to lock her ascension behind an entire questline.

I think there are 3 super easy solutions for this problem -make a npc that you can exchange boss drops for one boss to another -making coop available for lower level players rather them needing to be the same world level, so that lower level players can have higher level players help them farm for the drops in the higher level players world -introduce a trade system/ a quest system where players can submit a request and other players can accept them for a reward

This problem makes me sad because it’s not only a problem for players who don’t wanna go through all the story to be able to ascend their characters, it’s Also a problem for the players who Like the story and wanna take their time with it but. Also wanna ascend their characters. Like for me, I got Yae Miko, and I love her, but I can’t ascend her until I get to enkanomiya, but I love the story, I don’t wanna rush myself through it, i wanna be able to enjoy it, and that’s kinda hard when there’s an incentive to just not pay attention to it so I can actually play with one of my favorite characters to use...

The one thing that ruined my experience was having to rush through the story to get to Inazuma because I couldn't unlock Heizou's full power and therefore had to spend most of the game to get him instead of playing the game with him. I can only imagine the frustration of wanting to play a character that has their ascension and leveling locked by the story even if you got them early on thanks to your wishes. And so it became my obsession. Then once I got him, I couldn't unlock the character I wanted next (Yelan). I figured the wait wasn't worth it and it would all soon become repetitive anyway. I see most veteran players are bored, just hanging in there for new content and hanging around helping new and low AR players. The only thing I can think of as truly enjoyable in the long run is... the lyre :D

I feel like limited time events should come back or have a way for everyone to earn them. When they are locked behind game progression it’s heartbreaking

"You shouldn't rush the game. Take your time enjoying the content, or you'll burn out" *Summons Tsaritsa on day one of your new game* The sentence "Guys is this a good pull" is becoming more and more of a valid question.

The fact that yunjin and shenhe weekly boss level up materials were signora and not azdaha is outrageous to me

I started during 2.6 and honestly I feel like I missed out on a lot. Events that I'll never see, characters I couldn't pull for, all that. It sucks honestly.

Another thing that has heavily contributed to new-player-lockout in my experience have been the limited time events. They often offer significant amounts of content in terms of both rewards and lore or story, as well as exploration. First off, if you're a new player you've already missed out on over a dozen of these important pieces of content. Second off, they are also often locked behind certain AR levels or story progression, or even take place in specific areas, all of which encourage new players to rush through the early game in order to at least not miss out on the current events.

It boggles my mind when Shenhe needs ascension materials from Inazuma. The Cryo Hypostasis is an underutilized boss that so few characters need it to ascend. The same could be said for Yunjin. This basically sets the path for future new characters to need ascension materials from different regions if they are released later. Imagine if Grand Master Varka is a playable character and needs ascension material from whichever region is latest at that time.

I think a solution to the character problem would be to alter the wishing system slightly. In each city have something like a 'Wishing Well', where you can summon for characters. This will take you to the wishing screen, and each well will have the same event characters, but the roster of characters you can get from standard summons will change to fit the region you're in. A city could perhaps get a Wishing Well after the next city is added to the game. This would mean that you won't get stuck with a 5 star you can't level unless you pull for the event character, and if power creep begins to make old characters redundant it would have less impact as you would be naturally progressing with the power creep anyway.

Theres a few huge inherent problems with putting characters who were previously advertised as "limited" into the standard pool. Primarily, people who spent a lot of money for a particular character would feel like their money was wasted if they just get added to the standard pool. THAT BEING SAID, I don't think many people would have problems if HYV added Klee and Tartaglia to the standard banner, considering how long ago they were released.

I suggest introducing an item similar to Dream Solvent. Early Bosses like the Anemo Hypostasis, or Cryo Regisvine, can drop an item similar to Dream Solvent that can convert the drop Material of that boss to the drop material of future Bosses so newer players can still use the new characters without having to speedrun the game to reach the new location. The same can go for regional specialties, that can only be found in specific regions. We need a way, to convert those materials in the alchemy table to make a regional specialty from other regions.

The problem you’re describing is exactly what I experienced when I started playing. I picked up Genshin at the tail end of Yoimiya’s banner and she was my first 5 star unit. When I got her I was pretty excited because she was a main DPS unit and could carry me through the game. And then I realized I had to get through 3 regions to level her. I had to blitz through the content as fast as possible to utilize her the way I wanted, and I can tell you I have barely paid attention to the lore in Liyue and Mondstadt as a consequence. Which is a shame, cuz going back to revisit it made me realize there was a lot of really interesting nooks and crannies I missed.

As someone who really started playing this game around the time or just before Ganyus and Zhonglis reruns, I was definitely one of the ones who found myself having to speed my way through the story- JUST so I could play events and catch up with everyone else. This I sort of regret because I wasn't able to focus on the story and literally found myself skipping dialogue 🙃

I have an idea…. What if instead of just character reruns or new character banners, each nation has its own banner (eg monstadt -eula, Liyue - hutao, inazuma - itto ) that way newer players have a chance to pull for their own local characters. Of course , this would give everyone a harder choice to decide who to pull , but what do u guys think?

Feel this so much. It’s incredibly hard to get decent five stars assuming you start playing at a random time. I was lucky enough to get Ganyu when she was released along Zhongyi.

I remember in Monster Hunter 4u, you could gather parts and trade them to an explorer to get monster materials from monsters not featured in the game. Imagine if there was a trader in Mondstadt who would offer you a (limited) number of items per week in exchange for equivalent drops and some mora. It wouldn't be enough to replace farming directly, but would be enough to allow a new player to maybe get their character to level 40-50 without having to unlock every single area first. And he'd only carry up to mid-tier items--talent books in particular only need to go up to the silver books, as the gold ones are only usable at higher levels, when you'd have all domains unlocked. This could work as a stop gap for new players until they unlock the new areas, and can pivot to directly farming. As for banners, I've wondered what it'd be like if they had multiple banners, one for each region, that treated any 5-stars that have been out for a while as permanent characters. I don't think it's necessary to keep characters event exclusive for so long after their initial run. Also, it's kinda sad how bad the new player experience is, when you also consider that there's so little end game content too.

Honestly, without adjusting how ascension items are chosen, i think Hoyoverse's best option is to slowly add older characters to standard. Although, I do remember reading somewhere that this may be difficult as they initially said they were limited and I think there are laws preventing them. Either way, I hope it becomes easier for new players to get into genshin but I do worry it wont.

10:53 Genshin developers are hell bent NOT to let the player play as much as possible for as long as possible. The issue is not just the ascension materials locked by region, the issue is the resin system. Other gacha allow you to gring stamina/resin equivalent via playing and with packs in the shop ( obviously). In Genshin both the option are non existent, as final result one plays 5 mintues and log out, because everything that is actually relevant to level up units ( therefore accessing areas with stronger mobs on the road) is resin bound. 20 hours to regenerate the resin. That is the actual core that messes up the whole game, that is not this crippling in other gacha games. Players might start to skip banners that involve characters for which they cannot access the materials ( i am one, for example) , but seems Hoyo management is blind.

the popular suggestion seems to be to have a “traveling merchant” npc which i also agree with. i also think they should do what fgo does which is put the ascension mats in event shops. event shops currently are kinda a wasteland

This exact thing happened to me with Shenhe. I started last November and I've been deliberately slow playing through the story to really take in and enjoy each region. I was just reaching Liyue when Shenhe dropped and I managed to pull her. I was so excited to play through Liyue with a region appropriate character only to be disappointed to find that her upgrade material was in Inazuma for some reason. By the time I got the materials to upgrade her all my excitement was gone and I've barely used her at all.

As a relatively new player, I feel like I've missed the Genshin-train. I also see that the later you join the game, the harder it will be to progress. Why? Several reasons. For instance; during the early days of Genshin, Mihoyo would give you WAY more currency. I guess this was to build a playerbase quickly. However, from a game balance viewpoint, this is a backwards approach. Here's why: in the beginning, the number of unique characters and weapons was small. Meaning; you had a much higher chance of pulling the same thing than you do now. As the game progresses, the character/weapon pool keeps getting more diluted. That's bad. Why? Because of character constellations and weapon refinement. You need multiples of the same char/weapon to make them more powerful (sometimes drastically more so). With a progressively diluted char/weapon pool, your chance of building a powerful team gets increasingly smaller. So in essence, it was much easier to get powerful back then than it is now. Additionally, Mihoyo is steadily making the endgame (Abyss) harder. You need a much stronger team to clear Abyss today than you did in the beginning. This makes it even harder for new players, because clearing Abyss rewards a significant amount of currency. This means the disparity between new and older players just keeps growing. tl;dr: * It's getting progressively harder/expensive for a new player to build a good team as new content is added * The endgame keeps getting harder in order to keep up with the power creep, which gives new players an even harder time * The disparity between new players and veterans will keep growing

5:05 This part reminded me that when I started the game back in 2020, I pulled Ningguang and Beidou and started using them a lot, but I couldn't level them up because I took my time finishing the Mondstadt quests before heading to Liyue. So there I was, with lvl 60 Traveler being carried by lvl 20 Ningguang and Beidou. My issue was easily solved by waltzing my way into Liyue and finding the bosses to get their ascension materials, which to be fair I didn't even know at the time, but it's was a simple fix nonetheless.

one way to fix this is to have different boss mats every ascension Example: Yae uses the electro cube on her first 3 ascension and then use the drag heir fin afterwards

I think it would just be better and easier if they made sure each character could be upgraded with their specific region materials. It doesn’t make sense that you’d need something from Enkanmomiya to upgrade Liyue characters like Yun Jin and Shenhe. The only exception would be characters that live in a different region like Thoma.

I just started playing last week, I got Yoimiya from the event banner and was pretty excited! I really enjoyed building a team around her but when I got to her ascension and found I needed items from inazuma, I got pretty annoyed. I was level 15/20 at the time and was able to upgrade my other units. I don't know if it's a huge problem. but as a new player I found it weird, annoying, and off putting that I had access to materials to upgrade some units, but not others.

I think there should be a vendor, kind of like the alchemist station, in Monstadt that allows for players to exchange regional materials. Like being able to exchange dandelion seeds for sango pearls. This would incentivize older players to gather materials in different regions to trade for what they need; meanwhile allow for newer players to get materials they normally would not have access to before AR 30 or so.

a decent solution to expand access to region locked materials could be a “travelling merchant” npc in each region whose inventory changes. whichever region they’re stationed in, they carry materials for the other regions. (For example: the merchant in mondstat carries liyue or inazuma mats etc) Or they have to do what they did with adding the corrosion wolves to mondstat and integrate new enemies/mobs into the older regions somehow.

I feel like potentially in the future as more regions get added, characters from early regions are going to get added to standard pool, which should help a bit, but it's no perfect fix. Feels like mihoyo really backed themselves into a corner here and that's a bit of a shame.

Personally I feel that we as a community worry more than Mihoyo themselves. We have seen time and time again that they hold little regard for their player base, even through countless complaints and cries from everyone, be it the average player to their own influencers. Judging by the rate of unlocking, it's safe to say that genshin has another good 2-3 years in it in terms of unlockables, each new region being it's own new cash grab. They don't care about potential problems or struggles, they just see the dollar signs, and each new region, and each new character is more dollar signs. What we can see them doing already, is offering certain new materials in the paimon shop, for currency obtained from pulling on banners, and in my opinion, this is Mihoyo's way of moving the game forward, to where you "can" obtain limited materials that you might not yet have acces to, through money spending. That said, what they could do, is make certain character banners locked behind Adventure rank, or progression or what not, to protect players from this exact pitfal of ending up with useless characters. other than that, the fact that new players would have to go through the 4* experience as most of us have when we began isn't a bad thing... In some way it's pretty natural to start a game not with game breaking characters, but with the free handouts given to start with.

This is certainly a problem yes, but when I was a new player (new account), in my honest experience I don't feel like being lockout because I was too busy in exploring and doing story quests. I only level up my standard characters... so yeah while it's certainly an issue that needs fixing, new players tend to be very busy with other thing.. also they usually don't minmax their character right from the get go. I was fine using XQ and Xiangling. If I'm lucky I can get new character from banner, but if I'm not, I still have my torchlighter amber, barbara healer, etc. That's why I think genshin is a good gacha game because after 2 years, these 4 star characters are still in use no matter what. I can't stand korean gacha powercreeping other characters in a matter of 2 weeks / several months but their aesthetics are far more pleasing though.. imho. I played Brown Dust (brave 9) and Counter:Side.

An easy solution would be to give new players "material conversion" gems or something, and they automatically disappear when you unlock the new region. Prevents abuse by older players, but new players can still level up yae miko with other boss mats

Like Josh Strife Hayes would say: "this is a quitting moment", a moment where players quit the game because it killed their interest and continuing starts to feel like a uphill battle. Making the use of new hyped up characters exclusive only to veteran players makes any new player lose interest in the game. Because no one wants to hear that in order for you to enjoy this character that everyone else is enjoying you have to put hundreds of hours into the game (or skipping most of the game). And on top of that getting those characters is locked behind a costly RNG system.

I remember that I got my Thoma on my 5th roll when I was just starting and I looked over all Mondstadt only to find his ascension materials on Inazuma at AR30 or so. I think it's kinda tiresome since I like him before and if I built him and raised him just like my Rosaria and Diluc I would've used him all the time. Plus one of my friend who just joined Genshin got Yae Miko but is also just started playing and currently at Ar28, she got so bored and tired of the game since it took so long to progress so she decided to just give up. So yeah I think this is an issue that is needed to be addressed

It's mostly because of Inazumas whole locked down region thing imo. The moment a new boss is released, if they're in inazuma most characters will use that in the future. Even non-Inazuman characters like Yun Jin and Shenhe use Inazuman boss drops. It shouldn't be too much of a problem once Sumeru is released considering every region after that is connected to the mainland of Teyvat.

solution: put some of the limited early 5 stars into the main pool, and decrease pity on standard by 10. it will make it easier for newer players to get a couple of 5 stars to build while they are on the way to later regions.

It would’ve been nice to have banners tied to “meeting” characters in game, not to the general state of the plot. Something like: new player completes the 5* personal chapter quest, and that unlocks the time-limited banner. It ties pulling characters to the plot directly, and gives new players time to progress through the game. It doesn’t have to erase current banners, even: reruns of time-limited characters will still be good for constellations.

The struggle is real. I started last year in about July and pulled Raiden as my first 5 star. Not wanting rush the game, or the story, or the exploration, and taking my time to build other characters, I only started properly building her in January because of where her materials were all located. Another major issue worth noting is how many events are also locked behind late game content. I missed out on so many free 4 star characters and Event Weapons in the first few months of playing, for effectively the same reasons, and it’s only getting worse! I almost caught up, but then they dropped Enkanomiya, and pushed be further behind, and the most recent Event with the Oathsworn Eye required me to effectively rush through to unlock Enkanomiya and rushed through that too just to get to unlock the event. Had it not been an unusually long +30 day long event I would never have unlocked that weapon, and I was already in Inazuma! I feel for anyone even remotely casual just starting out now as they don’t stand a chance.

I could see something where like a trader NPC has a limited amount of ascension materials (Let's say enough to get a character of each element to say 60). That way you can hopefully keep a character relevant in your party for a bit longer. Perhaps have it be sort of like a sigil type currency. I mean you already can get the elemental crystal (I forgot the proper name) from sigil traders, why not enough to get you to 60? Another idea would just let people choose their world level (more than just -1). So if they have a lvl 40 character they liked, they can keep the game balanced around that. Much more of a bandaid solution, but it would be something. Honestly I think this should be added regardless (It'd be nice to not have to be able to play with some niche characters, like Aloy, but not having to invest them to at least level 70).

I understand this, I’ve been playing since the very beginning and I still struggle with finding all of level up materials, Ascension materials, and artifacts. This game is not beginner friendly. You either have to pull for older characters or just speed through the story which is one of the key elements of the game. It’s how the game works tho and it’ll just keep getting worse as more and more updates come out. Best of luck to everyone starting out, I hope you all take your time and enjoy the story just like I did. (Also love both your channels

honestly this is one of the issues that bothers me the most. in every single survey, i always suggest to add some sort of boss/regional material trading (my idea was of a material trading between players or something like cookie run kingdom's trading harbor) and it still bothers me on how they still havent added that considering that theres lots of new characters that always use the newest boss materials (especially shenhe and yunjin which tbh is really ridiculous considering that theyre from liyue and their materials are locked in quests and regions, since inazuma is only available at ar 30) what's also more ridiculous too is the fact that they always add a new boss every update and only 2 characters (normally limited, im talking specifically about the cryo hypostasis (keep in mind that aloy was only available between 2.1 and 2.3), the vishap duo and the hydro hypostasis) can use materials from them which might actually be useless bosses if you dont have any of the characters that need them (an example is if someone doesn't have neither shenhe and yae, then fighting the vishap boss for materials is just pointless since no other character they have use their materials)

As a pretty early game player, I think it was and is still (bc I haven’t completed all the quests) fun to do the quests. It was really exciting to get to Inazuma and unlock some other things. I think as a new player you can still have a lot of fun.

Exactly. I got Thoma while still mostly in Monstadt and later Yun Jin, and gosh my _shock_ when I discovered their ascension materials are on BLOODY TSURUMI ISLAND. Given my thoroughness with world exploration, it took me months to not only dock by Inazuma, but to then fight from island to island before setting foot on Tsurumi proper, and even more to get the bloody fog to disperse without throwing me back to the nearest waypoint. This is an absolutely horrible growth strategy; it'll just accumulate a stinking reputation that'll repel new players. Mihoyo needs to limit the character/weapon availability based on how far a player has progressed into the story/zones. Yes, one cannot get "current" characters, but hey, at least the player will have a more streamlined game experience relevant to the content s/he is actively playing.

One of my favorite ways of playing Genshin is to take my time and really absorb the world and story. As a "veteran" but casual player, I first faced this problems when I got Ayaka but was saving unlocking the Inazuma region for when I had a lot of free time to complete the story at my own pace. The same goes for events that require players to finish story quests to unlock. I understand that maybe some events have some connection to the main story, but also forcing me to finish the Inazuma quests to play Tuned to the World's Sounds event made me kind of bitter

I feel like an easy way to fix the character ascension lock out is to simply give a character more than one way to ascend. Like someone who needs the cryo flower boss could also use the cryo cube to ascend

One way to minimize the damage to the new player experience from next region onward is to let the player choose which continent to explore first after Liyue. Say you just pulled for your first waifu in the 7th continent, instead of having to go through all 6 other continents and have your waifu be useless the entire time, you'd only have to go through as much as you have to today. While not a great solution, and something that could have implications within the story, it stops the problem from getting more severe in the future.

I think something that could potentially work is to make an area that is accessible very early on, where bosses and domains from different regions cycle through. That way, you can still access the materials but it wouldn't take away from having to find them in their actual regions, because they would be time-locked, probably on a weekly basis like with the weapon domains. And for the other region-locked items, there could be a specialty shop in each city that sells these

Thoma was one of the few characters I got when I started playing. I love using him so finding out that his ascension mats are far in the story was painful. I actually rushed just so I could get to Inazuma AND tried to finish the Tsurumi quest just so I can safely get his materials. My characters didn't match the mobs I'm facing in Inazuma. Lucky for me, I have a sister who practically carried me throughout everything. I'm at AR55 now and I'm returning the favour by helping low level players.

Very simple solution: use diff materials for low level asensions and talents and only have higher level material locked behind regions. New players will be able to level them to a suitable level for their progression and still be incentivised to explore new areas when they wish to max out their character

I dont think being able to buy the materials before getting to the region is a bad idea, they just need to make it so you can only buy them in little quantities, that would make it possible to get the materials you need by just buying them but at such slow rate that you would also want to go and collect them directly for the sake of leveling your characters faster

I've been playing for a month & a half & had the opposite problem @ the beginning regarding exploration... I completely ignored paimon & had trekked through most of mondstadt before unlocking the first statue of the seven 💀 Having some more 5 stars on the standard banner would be amazing though bc even w/ all my time exploring I'm still f2p & the only 5 star I've been able to pull is Qiqi

This is an extremely well--articulated video, and a concern I've been feeling more and more as time goes on with Genshin. Even for someone like me, who took a few months off from the game - I still had to "grind" hours of story just to get to the Lantern Festival event. A new player is probably going to have at least 30 or so hours worth of gameplay just to be able to participate in the event? Sure, it rewards players who have stuck with the game the whole time, but that abrasiveness towards new players feels so unusual to me as someone who plays a ton of gacha games. I really feel like Mihoyo needs to reanalyze and refocus going forward, or else any new players they get are likely to churn pretty quickly.

By the way, let me know what you guys think about the editing in this video! I've been thinking about encouraging my editors to play around more with background footage so as not to just be gameplay the entire way through. Of course this one was dialed up to 11 I was blown away when I first saw this. But feel free to share your thoughts! :D My editors and I are always looking to find ways to increase the production quality of my videos.

my roomate is already stuck in several dilemas when choose whom to pull for, he joined the game to get Raiden, but lo and behold, her rerun was besides Miko's and he is still devastated to this day as he really wanted to get Miko as well, he wishes he had joined the game sooner, so that he could pull on the newer chars rather than being stuck choosing....

I guess something they could do on the long run is make different banners for each region (only the 5stars) and rotate through them. But that would make new players sad and unsure of who to pull ...

Something I've heard people suggest is a trading location, where you can trade region-specific materials for something similar (ie enemy drops for enemy drops, plants for plants, etc.) It wouldn't be enough to max out a character (enough to bring them to level 70) but enough to make them useable. Also make it a 3:1 or 5:1 trade, where you trade 3 or 5 materials for one, so it incentivizes players to actually explore to get the materials instead of just trading everything

One thing that I think could improve on the "adding old characters to the standard banner" idea is splitting the standard banner into regional standard banners. So, for example, the Mondstat standard banner would have the existing Mondstat permanent 5*s, Diluc, Jean and Mona, and any Mondstat 5*s added to it later, like Venti, Klee, etc., all the Mondstat 4* characters, and any 4*/5* weapons that use Mondstat weapon materials. And same kind of thing for Liyue, Inazuma, etc. So, let's say the new region is Sumeru and we have regional standard banners for Mondstat, Liyue and Inazuma. A new player could say "Those Inazuma characters look cool, but I can't get their materials, so I'll pull on the Mondstat banner instead." Or better yet, getting to Inazuma is what unlocks the ability to pull on Inazuma's standard banner at all. Not only would this help new players not get as screwed by getting characters they can't build, but it would also help older players who have like a C4 Keqing and no Diluc have better odds at getting the permanent 5*s they want.

Maybe have a system where the base banner changes depending on which region your character is currently in, so if you wanted to try and roll for some Inuzuma characters. You would have to actively teleport there or get to the point in the story to travel there to actually unlock them.

I started playing during Yae Miko's banner and let's just say the grind has been real. Got her as my first 5-star and used her as much as I possibly could. Took my time with Mondstat, and did Liyue pretty timely as well but I definitely have to go back and explore much more, Inazuma has been rushed simply because trying to fight bosses with a level 50 Yae just sucks. Upgrading units seriously makes me wanna quit just cuz how tedious it gets. Not to mention the game itself doesn't do that great of a job teaching you mechanics, I learned about upgrading artifacts after Liyue cuz the mobs in Inazuma were just too difficult to beat. Currently AR 40 and still working through the story for Inazuma but damn is it so much more boring than I was expecting. Trying to get the materials to upgrade everyone feels so boring that I'd rather just do something else. I do want to keep playing but wow is the game taking away all my motivation to do so lmao.

I want to talk about genshin events. As a veteran player, I've played through a lot of events, and I can definitively say that each event, even the smaller ones, are all connected in the overarching plot. Some are obvious like lantern rite and windblume, but even smaller events like the dreams of bloom and a study in potions are connected to the plot, (loosely connected, if anything it feels more like a side story, yet still part of the plot since it mentions things that have happened in the story). I feel like hy should let the smaller events be accessible to anyone who has the region unlocked, while the bigger events that are more impactful to the story can be accessible only after you've finished the quest. Genshin isn't just popular because of it's exploration, but also because of it's storytelling and lore. It would make sense that the bigger events would follow the story chronologically, while the smaller ones are more akin to sidequests. Regarding the 5 star characters... I've never had to deal with a character being region locked, but I can understand the frustration of new players not being able to use a character you were able to pull since their materials are locked in another region. I think it would be best if hy were to just add the older 5 stars into standard banner, not just because it's easier (for both hy and for players who want the characters, veterans and newbies), but also because it'd give people more reason to pull on it as well. It wouldn't make sense to keep cycling through old 5 stars over and over again once there are more characters. There wouldn't be enough time to rerun them all at that point (an exception to this would be the archons, I feel like they shouldn't be added into the standard mix since they're more important and impactful to the lore and game in general). I love genshin, it's one of my favorite games, but it has been noticeably going downhill as of lately, from the character designs (take the Yelan leaks for example), to some storytelling aspects (Inazuma felt lacking when compared to Mondstadt and Liyue), and now to the new player friendliness. I doubt this was all intentional (obviously), and I'm sure after the incident with the attempted assassination of the hy ceo things took a turn, but I do hope that they're able to address all these issues in the future. Edit: so the new event has a quick start feature now! I was p excited when I saw it since I hadn't done Kokomi's quest yet, and that was one of the prerequisite quests needed for the event.

Me and a couple of my friends started playing Genshin the start of this year together. One of my friends managed to get both Shenhe and Yae Miko. They were so happy they got new characters with low pity back then but now they’re rushing through the content just to get to Inazuma so they can use their 5 stars characters. We’re just about finished exploring Liyue while they have unlocked every teleport point on Inazuma just to get ascension materials. It’s tough.

I remember when I first started it was in the middle of Kokomi’s banner, so a couple months awhile ago. Sayu was my first 4 star from a wish other than Noelle, and I loved playing her. I then got Aloy and continued to use those two in the beginning of my play through. Although, there was a problem. Aloy required crystal marrow along with Sayu, which was in Inazuma while I was still in the beginnings of Liyue. I had to bench them off in favor for better units which still makes me sad tbh. I was also desperate enough to try and ice bridge with my friend to Inazuma but we gave up halfway lol we didn’t even realize that the way was gatekeeped by lightning assuming we could just get there early like how you could with Liyue 🤷

A way it could be fixed would be region banners. Having a permanent Mondstadt banner, Liyue banner and so on. With characters from the respective region.

The banner system feels really out of touch by now, especially the standard banner. I wish they would break that up into for now three different banners, one for each country. Put all the respective 5 and 4 star units in those. Have event banners still have the raised percentages and I think they would be still pulled on

I started playing seriously around golden archipelago. Barely finished Mondstadt when Inazuma dropped. I wanted the Beidou constellation so bad I practically had to speedrun the entirety of liyue, the interlude, and ritou under a WEEK to make it to the event on the last 48 hours. That SUCKED.

another problem at least that I've found as a new player is if you pull a 4 or 5 star and don't realize it when you pull, you have no idea what characters are what after the fact, I also had no idea there are only 5 5 star characters in the regular gacha and that ones like venti are limited edition. Maybe I just didn't pay attention when it was said during the tutorial or something, or I forgot because of how massive the game is

Fate grand order also locks servant materials behind current story/world locations. Which as someone who quit a while back makes the idea of returning to the game almost impossible because if i wanted to re-start, if i roll the current rare character, id need to rush through a lot of content that wouldnt be clearable without an already built team.

Best way to address this other than reruns is for an AR locked limited time wish events. It would suck to need to speed run all the main quests just to be able to level up the new 5 star you got.

They should just make "Paimon's secret haul" in the shop, that would change according to your account. If your AR is too low for you to get to the boss, and you own the right character, you could buy the mats that would let you play your new character at the right level. Or, make it so you still have to farm the boss already available, but would get a limited number of recipes to transform the necessary materials. This way, new players could use their new characters in older content, and when they get to the point where they can fight the boss regularly, well they wouldn't be able to buy the materials/recipes anymore.

Im relatively new, started February 2022 at 2.4 and had issues with not being able to get locational resources. Took 4 weeks to be able to level certain characters cause of that. Which was no fun at all. Having a good unit and not being able to use it so long. But I have an idea to fix it: conversion like dream solvent and dust of Azeroth.

One of my first 4 stars was Thoma, took me 2 months to get to a level high enough and far enough in the story to get to Tsurumi and be able to use him, and tbh I regret going to that island :c

A fun Idea I had was a "Celestial Island" that is in tune with the constellations of what ever banner characters that are currently available. What that actually means is you can warp to a small/medium sized island that will have everything that specific character needs such as mobs, collectables, and a copy of the boss in the center of the island for you to farm. If that idea is to ambitious, just add a trader that swaps boss drops at a rate of 3 to 1, so it will always be better to farm the boss directly, while still allowing newer players the ability to level their cool new character. As for the monster items and local collectables, I think a shop/Bazaar should be added somewhere that sells almost everything in somewhat small quantities so you can hit 50-60 with out to much trouble. In addition to all of that I feel they should just allow free travel (Not story access) to new regions from now on, and avoid Inizuma type hard barriers in the future. So if you REALLY want to go get your items you can wonder that way right now if that is what you want. As an aside I do think the traveler baseline should be buffed so it feels like you have at least one strong character right out of the gate. And don't need to get a strong 5star to make it past level 60-70.

I'm a longtime player and my brother just started two days ago. When he pulled a character that needed ascension mats from an area he hadn't unlocked yet that's when I realized how punishing this game actually is to new players, especially when you think about how while the playable units aren't being powercrept that badly, the new mobs and bosses are significantly harder than the ones in the beginning. And also the most appealing factor in this game is the lore and the exploration so if people don't read it so they can rush through it'll be the death of this game...

as a returning player i got navia so i went to fontaine to get her materials. They actually took into consideration players who may not be that far into the game so they had 1 or 2 automatically unlocked teleport waypoints. i wonder what wouldve happened if i got a sumeru character tho lol

An idea I had for this problem was a "sightseeing" mechanic where you can spend 20 resin to be teleported to an area of the entire tevyat map of your choosing for a limited time. there will be a barrier around the area you chose, around half the size of a single island in inazuma. for that short period you are allowed to collect any materials that grow within that region.

I've seen people dismiss these concerns by stating that people should only pull on the Standard Banner until they reach endgame. But that ignores one critical issue among many others. Namely that the Standard Banner still has 4* that are locked behind world progression. If you're a F2P player who uses their limited wishes and ends up with region locked characters, you're not going to be very happy with the game. In an ideal world for MHY this would push F2P players into becoming dolphins who spend a little to get a character that's actually usable at their low Adventurer rank. But more likely than not it's going to just cause a lot of people to stop playing due to how unfair the gacha is going to appear. Which then could turn around and cause them to warn other potential players away from the game. The best case scenario going forward is that all new countries can be accessed simply by walking over the border in exploration. Beidou was my second pull ever at the beginning of the game - but I was able to level her fairly easily because I could hop over to Liyue almost instantly even with very casual play. It somewhat ruined the flow of story progression for me as I was in that region long before the story was telling me to visit, but hey at least Beidou was viable to play. If Sumeru does the same thing, where people can sequence break and just go there if they really want to, I think this will end up being a mild annoyance at best. It still leaves Inazuma characters Adventure locked but at least that'll eventually only be a small portion of the roster.

Finally a RU-vidr mentions this! This game is severely broken, specially for new players. What ticks me off the most is that it is structured in such a way that you don’t realize this until you put many many hours into the game. Most F2P gotcha games have 2-3 layers of slow you down/content block/buy this or suffer mechanics but Genshin seems to have an infinite amount as I’m always discovering new layers! It’s a shame, this could have been such a great game if it wasn’t so restricting in every possible way.

I only started during the Itto banner (only joined because of him), and I realized a lot of characters I have gotten are stuck being weak until I can manage to get to their areas. I managed to get him thanks to a birthday 10 roll I was given, but I was stuck unable to level him until MUCH later, and I unfortunately kept rolling characters I couldn't work on. That kdully I pulled Jeanne, who's carried me big time, but if I had not gotten lucky... I would have been struggling while I got the freebie characters as unlocked as I could. It sucks :( even through I found myself enjoying the game.

I've been playing since venti's rerun, he was my first 5 star, I believe. I still think one of the issues with this game is how the regions grow increasingly harder to farm. I skipped Ei (who I wanted because I got Eula and word is they synergize well) because I thought building her would be hard, but I made the mistake to pull for Itto because I loved his character. God I had no one to beat the spicy puppy snake with. I also had no one to beat specters without crying, because my best team was full melee. It wasn't until I got ganyu on her rerun that things got *a little* easier. And I still got Ganyu to 80 and her bow maxed in about a week while itto is hardstuck at 70 because farming for her ascension was something I had done just by exploring. Every character coming out demands drops from harder enemies that I honestly can't be bothered to learn how to fight as a casual. I know genshin isn't made for casuals buy I wish they wouldn't block us out by trying to keep the veterans interested. There has to be another way...

I think one way to "fix" this problem is giving use a gadget similar to parametric transformer where it can only accept boss drops in exchange for regional random boss drop or they can add something similar to artifact reroling 3 for 1 drop

as a person who created a acc in oct 2020 and only started seriously playing genshin at the start of april 2022 and soon addicted i missed out alot of limited events like lantern rite and its so saddening i wonder how its like for even newer players

One of the units I got from the starter banner was Kuki Shinobu and she's been a staple on my team as a healer since, well, day 2. However... my other characters are all ascended and level 40+ with Xiangling at level 50, while Shinobu is stuck at level 20 because I haven't reached Inazuma yet. I'm almost there...! And thankfully, Shinobu is perfectly fine at level 20 as a healer/support. But it sucks that I've played a good 15 hours now with an incredibly underpowered character because I don't have the region unlocked that gives me her ascension materials. I heard at least Sumeru is accessible simply by walking to the area, but even so there are other drawbacks like not being able to effectively farm the enemy drops for ascension.

Honestly, if I started to play the game today, I think I would drop the game so fast because of how it works in general. I was first attracted by the whole searching for sibling story but now I feel like it's so far from that. Not to mention the events that I would miss. Plus, even getting a character feels like a chore because the way you have to level them up after

Thanks for bringing attention to this! Another issue I have with the game is how time locked everything is. I know that quite a few countries have video game laws but just about everything with the game is time locked too much

As a solution for the lockout they could introduce sth similar to the artifact boxes - you exchange diff boss materials for the ones you actually want

Yoimiya brought me to the game. I got her at AR8. She has been my main character to this day. I then got Raiden shortly after. But once I got to Liyue, my AR went up and all the bosses and enemies were level 50+ while Yoimiya and Raiden were stuck at Lvl 40. I basically built Atk Yoimiya with a 520 EM Raiden (for her E to pair Yoimiya for Overload) that worked until I got to Inazuma but I felt I had to rush the Liyue, traveller/dainsleif and Kazuka/Bedouin quests so I could finally level them past lvl 40. They're both now lvl 90 but man, that time stuck at 40 was a little annoying

there's one thing that we are forgetting when we say that some characters need materials from Inazuma. The thing is that Inazuma according to lore is a closed nation which can only be accessed through archon quests. but the other future regions are a part of a huge continent without a "sea barrier" so we might just be able to walk to the other regions just like we can walk to Liyue even at AR 2