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Does anyone else watch this video over every few months just so we can see Steph? I miss her so much.

To me it doesn’t matter that the Secret Slob videos are not weekly. I just watch your 5x5 over and over again. So helpful, thank you

My dad used to tell me when I was going through the same thing He said twenty years from now nobody will know or care if your house is tidy But everyone will know and care if you paid attention to your kids:)

I have never related so much to two people.

“Rhythm instead of routine” is inspiring and comforting. Thank you.

Steph is not just a role model but also a friend in my opinion. She’s very very real and just wants to help others do it the way that works best for you.

Be unapologetic about your kids making noise in the background. I follow a cooking channel and you hear her kids in the background and see them walk buy. Nobody cares, you are a real person with a real family and people will love to see transparency so we know we are not alone. Thank you ladies for all you do

Great conversation! I’m so glad I raised my kids before social media. My mom was a stay at home mom with 3 kids and a maid. Our house was always clean and meals were on the table every night. It wasn’t Leave it to Beaver, but it was good. And then it wasn’t. My mom died just after I turned 16 and we moved cross country at the same time. So now I was the mom for a while, while we all grieved and then my dad remarried and we moved and they both worked and it was all so different. I married at 19 and had to learn to be a wife and keep house and cook while working full time. Later on we had kids and I had to learn to be a stay at home mom. Over the decades I found my rhythm, which changed as we moved several times and my husband traveled a lot. But I only had to worry about our family. I wasn’t looking at what fantasy or even real life people were doing on the internet. My husband and I just closed our business and retired and now I’m finding a new rhythm to my days. I’m not there yet, but it’s only been a couple of months. And I realize that even tho I watch both of you ladies and others like you, I’m not influenced by you. I’m old enough to just enjoy you for you, and that makes me happy. Thanks for your time and effort and content. It’s all so fun and entertaining. I would rather watch RU-vid than TV these days. At least I learn things as well as being entertained.

I heard a great quote in the Clutter Chronicles. "Be ruthless with your environment and gentle with yourself "

I love Steph’s channel. She’s the one who introduced me to FlyLady. AND, she also taught me to adjust it to my lifestyle. Also, Slob Sisters is a great podcast. I looked forward to Steph and Jill’s stories at the end. So funny!

You're not "doing everything a little crappy", you are satisfying the task. Less perfection doesn't mean terrible. It means it's done, and good enough IS GOOD ENOUGH.

Loved the conversation between the Secret Slob Steph and Cass. Great show ladies. Please do this again.

I love both of you and Diane in Denmark too!!

I love this conversation between you two! I think my favourite tip was Steph talking about knowing what she’s doing “next” instead of pressure to do things at set times on set days.

Love Diane in Denmark! I found her and Clutterbug at about the same time. She is as endearing as you are Cass. She talks about Hygge, the fly lady and her life in Denmark. She's very inspiring... just like you Cas. ❤️ Keep up the good work and I'll be watching the all day declutter tomorrow. Love and light.

This was refreshing!!! 😮‍💨😌💕 My new mantra, It’s okay to do everything a little crappy so you don’t drop important balls! 🥳

CAS, I was so excited to see Steph on your show! STEPH, so glad to see you. You made the difference in my home and my life. I hope you will continue your videos but if it is not right for you, you should not. I am 69 years old, never had any kind of household routines except to do everything at the weekend. Even after I retired, I still didn’t have a routine until I found Steph. Those printables were so helpful. So, to the both of you, YOU are the best!

Having a rhythm rather than a routine is a good way to put it for people like us Cas, who bristle at being told what to do, even by ourselves 😄

I just love Diane from Denmark too!!!

Love to Steph from a fellow butterfly 🦋!!!! She is the second RU-vidr I started to follow after Dawn the Minimal Mom on my decluttering journey!!

Steph and Diane were my life raft 4 years ago! Then I found you, the Minimal Mom and the Frugal Fit Mom! All of you changed my life...thank you so grateful! Great interview!

Two of my favorite RU-vidrs together!!! 🎉😊 Steph helped me finally get a handle on the FlyLady’s methods with lots of personalization. I finally have a handle on my home and routines. I thank you both from the bottom of my heart ❤️

I really enjoyed having you both collaborate, such lovely ladies with a great message. I have a blackboard on the kitchen wall and on it I write the next task I need to do. Whenever I wander off to do other things or get lost in thought, I "come to myself" and think "Wait, what was I doing?" Cue looking at the blackboard and resuming the necessary task. I write almost every task on there, right down to "coffee" when I have told my husband that I will make one for him because I have so often remembered an hour later that I ground the coffee and then wandered off to do other things!

I love Diane from Denmark! She would be a awesome Clutterbug interview.

Cas, Steph & Diane is three of my favs ❤❤❤

I am a BUTTERFLY and so so relate to all of this! Cass it’s not just you. I throw over the covers of our bed sometimes. I don’t have a cleaning routine. My brain just can’t. I’ve tried so so so hard for follow something and I just can’t and I feel like a failure. But I do clean a lot and pick up. I just do what needs done the most. And I have to accept that there is clutter. I have 4 young kids and I work part time. I have more of a routine for me then my house…. Getting myself ready is a huge key for my mental health. I have had post pardom and anxiety after kids and I just don’t do well with any extra overwhelm! Oh my gosh I truly have never heard all of this from anyone. I thought I was just not good at homemaking and too scattered. I’m just super creative and I have lower energy and I’m sensitive so I think I need less stuff I’m my home!

This video has to be the best one that I have ever heard. I am a struggler with life and having it together at all. I don’t have it together at all. I have tried to get my home clean and to be completely organized, but I’ve never succeeded. I know that I am very hard on myself. I see how others are able to have clean homes and to be organized - this is the desire of my heart. I have tried Flylady, but since I am not a structured person it just did not work. I have printed off different cleaning schedules, but have not been able to keep one. I have tried planners, but to no avail. I am lost as to what to do. Oh, and I am a Cricket. Though I am a detailed person in parts of my life, but unfortunately not in my entire life. I look at my life (I am 66 years old) and feel that I have no value, but rather I think of myself as a mess - I am being brutally honest here. I also have major depression so this makes it even worse.

It's a fine line between inspiring people, and making people feel like inadequate failures. You two inspire us to keep trying to do better, while not making us feel guilty for being 'normal'. I also love Dianne in Denmark. ❤

Flylady is the best methode for house, family, lifestyle. It is a complete guide for what is important and what makes life easy and enjoyable. Every one of the famous people in this branch has something to be gratefull from the system of the Flylady.

My mother had a little sign in her Kitchen. “ Come is sit down convers, my house doesn’t always look like this, some days it’s even worse. “ I so agree , If your coming to see my house don’t bother coming, I’m to busy to waste my time with you. I’m 66, my mother always prioritized us kids..she always had time to teach us a new card game. Play horse shoes, croquet, or badminton, or softball. How about fishing. I remember my childhood with joy, lots of love. 😊❤❤❤. Stuff doesn’t bring you acceptance, inner peace, contentment, Love.

No one knows their personal limit of seeking perfection until they reach it, …disfunctional. 🙂 Just like no one knows their “clutter threshold” until they achieve it. There’s no such thing as perfect in this realm. 😉

This was therapy! Thank you. This is me. I need to learn to accept how I function and not be so down on myself about it. And just find what works for me to get the results.

Diane in Denmark is fantastic! So are y’all!

I love both of your authenticity. We do put so much pressure on ourselves. We often compare our insides to other's outsides.

Yay! Two of my favorite RU-vidrs!!!🎉❤ What an honest, endearing encouraging, and practical conversation. Thank you, Cass and Steph.

I’m enjoying my pets in my clean uncluttered and tidy home while listening to you. ❤

LITERALLY my two favourite RU-vidrs together…. You are both so nice and real and FUNNY. you’ve kept me going for years THANK YOU. Btw🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 GOD SAVE THE KING 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

I put all of my papers in a box labeled with the year too!! I hate filing. You ladies are my people! Where have you been all my life???

I don't know how mom's today do it. There are so many things you are supposed to do for your children and if you don't do them all you feel like a failure. I am a grandmother now and am so glad I did not have that pressure when I was a young mom. When I was raising my daughter, you were supposed to be a success in your career and keep your house clean. Kids came last. Just a different type of pressure. I look back and regret some of the times that I did not spend with her. Luckily, I got a chance to go part time when she was in high school so I made up for the times I missed when she was younger. I am back working full time but it is easy now, just me and my husband and he is pretty tidy. You can look forward to having enough time to fold your tea towels when you become a grandparent 🙂 You are both doing great and don't let anyone tell you you aren't. Enjoy the time now and don't try and do everything or you will look back with regrets.

Sweet update. I have missed her while she was on hiatus! I also discovered Diane in Denmark a while ago based on her recommendations.

Omg the phone reminders! Yaaaasssss!!! I literally, just last night for today, needed a reminder NOT to eat for some lab work I was having drawn today at lunch time. I’m a butter coffee fanatic so this was the second time I scheduled these labs because my lizard brain out butter in my coffee and I drank it before I remembered the first time. 🤦‍♀️

I love youtube and all the great info i get from it. However, i wish i could just get a message out to all the youtubers that when you create/stage perfect scenarios and lives to inspire us normal people, you are hurting us and yourselves as well. You are putting the pressure on yourselves and on us. Maybe if there was some more transparency we would ALL be better off. If someone scrubbed their bathroom sparkling clean but was honest enough to say, but look...i didnt get my kitchen clean because im a real human with other responsibilities.. i think that would be so refreshing! Sorry for the rant. And i love both of you...i have learned so much from you two ladies.. Im just callimg for real life and real honesty I think that would be the best way to inspire!

I had to make a priority list and always do things in the same order whenever I clean: dishes, surfaces, tidy, floors, laundry, trash. Otherwise I find myself washing my walls or reorganizing a closet while there are cheerios on the floor and dishes in the sink

I absolutely loved this collaboration. Yes, Steph is so real. I love watching both of you ❤❤

Love Diane in Denmark too!! I use her and your version of FlyLady, laid back, small tasks, make it mine…and that has saved me!!😊

Putting appointments in your phone with one or two day reminders! OUCH! So me.

Yes Diane in Denmark is GREAT

Yep, Diane in Denmark , I also found her at a really low depression time and she is so kind and lovely ❤

I always say that I have 2 gears: overdrive and park. Health issues ensued, of course. Learning how to find a different gear has been a challenge. I was sick yesterday, but somehow, I got 4 loads of laundry done! Cass did that and Take Your House Back. Systems work and don't feel like much work WHEN we find the one that works for us at this time! Denmark lady is the one, I think, that taught me about banana water for plants! I was never a plant lady, but now, wow, I have beautiful plants!

I love the fly lady system as taught by Diane in Denmark, and Steph. I do it in a very flexible modified way. It just provides a framework that keeps me from feeling overwhelmed or depressed. I couldn't even read all the stuff on the fly lady website, way to much. Diane in Denmark is really encouraging about modifying the system for you own needs.

Thank you both for a great interview. Cas, when you said "When someone expect me to do something then I don't want to anymore" and Steph quiped "Maybe you're a rebel"... Well, let me quickly blow your minds. Gretchen Ruben (from The Happiness Project) wrote a book called "The Four Tendencies", where she explains the different ways people respond to internal and external expectations. There are 4 combinations, and around 18% of the people in her survey fell in the Rebel category where people respond aversely to internal and external expectations. So Cas, you really are a Rebel 😂. Sounds like Steph may be an Obliger, since accountability (external expectation) is a big motivator for her.

When my friends say I’m so sorry about my house being messy, I say, well, I see this is weighing on you. How about we go though and clean it real quick so this weight won’t be on you? I don’t mind it. Then we clean and that person feels better and so do I in that we can chat. I feel it’s important to help each other, be a community. I’ve seen my friends suffer from the stress of dirty houses. Having someone to help helps a lot!

Love you all! Yes to Fly Lady via the wonderful Diane in Denmark! And customize loosely. I think that I, too, may be a butterfly.

For me to be effective un getring things done I need write down the things i want to do , then the order I want to accomplish the items in. As I am carrying out the things I want to do I will take breaks as necessary, edit my order of getting things done if necessary, and even add something or 2 if it seems practical. Im very grounded normally. That truly helps to stick to my goals. And as long as Im working on my own, I will accomplish what I set out to do. Its very satisfying.

I schedule appointments straight away on my cellphone and then add reminders for 1 hr, 2hrs and a day before 😁

Yes, Diane is awesome. Love you both!❤

When you follow FLYLADY you are a fly baby. Not just a follower. I have been a fly baby for many years and find her systems freeing, not constricted. I did not use the control journal but I also use my iPhone calendar. Years ago Marla developed a digital app. She helped me to get my house clean long before I decluttered. Funny I just glossed over the declutter for 15 minutes a day. Now I’m getting it all out! Still do 27 fling boogies! A lot of lingo and systems came from Marla-just freshened up. Thanks Cas for all you do🥰

FlyLady and a website with a name :messies anonymous- or something like it🤷‍♀️were my first life line when I was drowning- over 15 later still a struggle but along the way now I found Cas and Dawn and Diane - and some more I pick from each whatever works for me - making great strides on decluttering- but living alone now - chores are done usually on a as needed basis- super clean or a mess lol - love Cas❤

I actually found Steph thru Diane in Denmark. Cas, you need to watch this great cheerleader! Thank you, Cas and Steph, for this wonderful video! Love to you both!

I honestly thought everyone knew about Diane in Denmark….she is an absolute inspiration and so relatable. Her big thing is to not get caught up in social media for LONG periods. She is my favorite ❤ And can I just say, this was such a great podcast. Thank you Cas and Steph ❤️

Even fly lady tells you to only add one habit at a time. I love the idea of just rotating the zones on your schedule..I don’t do that but I like it. I do have am and pm routines that are remote control. Bed is the folding table so making it is done so morning load a day can happen.

Yay! I'm SO glad to see Steph join Cas! Steph was one of the first RU-vidrs i started following and the first cleaning channel. I have multiple health issues and I really felt defeated that i couldn't balance and manage everything. "Progress not perfection" and the idea that anything done is better than nothing and good enough, working on small pieces at a time -- i needed to hear that so badly. I have missed my internet friend dearly during her hiatus but I'm glad she was putting herself and her family first! ❤

The honesty of this discussion is so refreshing ❤

I've heard about the channel Secret Slob but never watched it so I must say....I love the vibes! Very positive person.

Luv U both... and I appreciate this more than you can know. I'm 70 yrs old & I never learned how to take care of myself until recently. I'm also a Butterfly. I've learned to put myself 1st, but I still do it with guilt. With my husband & a very (use to be friend) good friend. I'm tired of the one that carries the whole load! I also learned that I am being used by this friend, so I just quit being that friend one day. It will all come together. Thanks Cass & Steph! ... Glenda ps... luv Diane from Denmark :)

I'm a structured person. I make a to do list for work and for home in my planner. I prefer to write it than to use the phone. It is always open in my desk for me to see it. My doctors write the appointments on paper or send me a reminder a day before or I forget it.

Making my bed was so hard for me until I realized that I don't need ALL the bedding. I now only have the fitted sheet, the pillow and case and a comforter... oh, and one extra blanket for colder nights. This enables me to flip flop during the night if I decide to put my head at the other end and making my bed is a breeze. I'm also trying to do FlyLady and I'm still working on my Evening Routine. Morning Routine is set... finally, and I won't tell you how long I've been working on it. (But it's long enough that I've figured out that Diane in Denmark and I have the same birthday... a few years apart, I'm older.

So, I’m in my pajamas listening and cleaning. I get dressed everyday with makeup and go all day. Sometimes my days are leave at 7am and get home at 10pm. Today I’m in my pjs which says I’m not going anywhere so I can get into the task at hand without a time crunch. I get it if your home all the time that getting dressed would be important. But my pajama days are very productive!

You both have said so much s that is so similar to the way I feel. I also love Diane from Denmark. Life is very complicated. I'll be watching Slob sisters and secret slob. I have a few simple rules I'll share... even despite how hard we work. Our mental emotional health always should come first. Thank you both for the reminders. ❤

Diane in Denmark is the absolute best ❤ as are you two xx

Love Diane in Denmark!! And you two gals too!!

Phone reminders are lifesaving !!

This is the Best video I've ever seen and heard. You ❤️ two have helped me so much! By the way I am 71 and still trying to have anyone come to my house! I have been doing flylady, and I love her and Diane from Denmark. Thank you both 💓

I couldn’t do fly lady. I really like her and have learned a lot from her. Especially when I feel overwhelmed I clean my sink and it can get me going and pick up momentum. But, some days I don’t make it past cleaning my sink. When I was raising my daughter I did have a strict cleaning routine without problems.

Much love to these two ladies. You've both brought me joy as I watch your journeys. Thank you!

The paper work for the year is a really good idea

Great time, ladies!!! I also highly recommend Diane from Denmark! BTW you two are so lucky to get ur $&=* together while ur young! I didn't "find" the whole decluttering / organizing / calm down thing until I was 64!!! LOL Enjoying life much better now! 😊

I struggled hard with being a slob all of my early life. I just didn't get it. A book called "Clutters Last Stand" by "Don Aslett" saved my sanity, but I didn't find it until I had kids. De-cluttering wasn't a topic of conversation, nor was RU-vid a thing. (Yah, I'm old-ish). I spent many years feeling overwhelmed and out of control. You ladies are a Godsend doing what you do.

Raising my hand a thousand times with both of you 🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️ I’m a butterfly and messy and all or nothing, list maker, not structured etc but yet I’ve found a routine that works for me, I made up my own routine. Majorly decluttered my home has helped. Having less stuff to put away makes me less messy. Thanks for this 💜

Loooved this vid!! It’s the combo that I didn’t even think about but love! Steph @TheSecretSlob and Cass @Clutterbug, can I just say you both make the world a better place and my heart happy- happy fabulous Friday to you both 🎉❤

Me to myself: You need to clean the floors. Also me to myself: You're not the boss of me! FREEDOM to choose what to do!! Yesssssss!!!

Since I took your quiz, and came up a Bee & Butterfly, as I've been decluttering, and reading & watching your videos, etc, I am seeing that I'm more Butterfly than Bee in a lot of ways. Altho, the two are very similar. This was a great podcast! I have followed Steph before. I know her style and lifestyle. I like the way Steph talked about using a loop when cleaning during the Getting Organized HQ! That was how I was feeling! It makes so much more sense. I was just calling it rotating for myself. Same thing. Lol Great conversation ladies! 👏 👏 😊❤️

Love "rhythm instead of routine"!!

33:17 this: am I really helping people if I’m not sharing my struggles too! Yes!

Rhythm > Routine so smart! bc you have issues being told what to do, even when it's you yourself asking for the favor 😅 so relate!

I love you Steph and am SO glad you came back!! 🥰👏🏻 thanks to both you amazing ladies for sharing your stories and your tips!! ❤️

Listening to you girls I've come to believe that I have ADD. And have struggled keeping it all together. When other people look like their all together and I have never had it together. I say what you see is what you get. Try not worrying about things so much. Thank you for describing your life.

I make a small list of things to do on one side and a done list on the other side. I like checking off all the little things I do, such as making my bed, feeding the dog, dishes etc.

Fun, real, relatable info!! Dawn (❤) would say… you have too many tea towels for that drawer ;)

diane in Denmark is delightful!

This is why I love Cass and Stephanie! You both are so honest and real-life. Keep on being you.

I couldnt do fly lady either, but i kept "Dress to shoes" and i turned it into "ready for anything". Im a sahm, and i was so lost, drowning, but dress to shoes made a huge impact on me. That principle all by itself gave me the structure I needed to start. With it, I built a routine, and on top of that routine, I added a daily project or two. A rhythm !!!

One of the best things in be come across in a while.

I loved Fly Lady! I had to modify her approach and system but she is so good.

Great job ladies! You helped a lot of people today. I am also a Diane and Denmark fan! I went all the way to Copenhagen from Colorado because of her!❤

Ooh you should Interview Gretchen Rubin about her four tendencies. This reminded me so much of her.

So refreshing to say “come see me how I am” messy or neat. I honestly don’t care if a friends house is a mess or not. It makes them comfortable to be around when they relaxed with themselves not having to be perfect with their friends.

Diane and the secret slob saved my life thank you so much and I also love clutter bug brilliant idea for doing this pod cast love you all ❤❤❤

a BUTTERFLY here LOL. I LOVE your channel!

Thank you!!!!! I have tried for years to do it all and not been able to maintain it which then makes me feel like crap. I can relate to all that was shared and I do not feel alone. Your transparency just gave me motivation to keep doing something and understand why I do what I do is normal. Sending BiG love ❤️ for letting us into your world.