as a german, I will try to explain. First, the laws on this were sharpened only a few years ago, and what they are doing now is just rolling part of that change back. The reason for this is mostly what you have mentioned, HLC, but there recently was a big example of this: A teacher learned that explicit material of a minor was shared, and then informed the parents, with proof, so that they can take this to the police and have it dealt with. However, as the law stands, the teacher is now guilty of distributing said material and faces jailtime. Now, obviously they acted with best intentions, and everyone, including the judge, is aware of that. However, unlike american law (from what I understand), here in germany you can't easily make an exception of the rule in such cases. Because the laws were increased those few years ago, the judge was not able to not pass a sentence on this teacher, despite not wanting to, because, the law standing as written, the teacher committed the crime of distributing said material, and that is a proven fact. Now, the idea of this chage (which, as i said, is mostly rolling back the changes made a few years ago), is to lessen the MINIMAL sentences, so that judges have more lee-way in such cases. It does not change anything about the maximum sentences, so anyone caught possessing or distributing said material for nefarious purposes can still be slapped with the same high sentence as currently. That is what this is about, as far as I understand it. I am not a lawyer or anything, so I can't really answer questions to the details though.
Makes a huge amount of sense. Still though, I feel like in grey areas like these, judges should have the authority to just use common sense and "house rules" like in DnD. If something is obviously nonsensical in the situation, just house rule it so it does make sense.
Thank you for the explanation. I hate legal stuff for this reason, it's usually opposite of common sense, but sadly it has to be this way thanks to losers constantly looking for loopholes and/or over-zealous police looking to bump their arrest numbers(a problem we face here). I've had computer techs tell me if you ever buy like a used laptop, and find similar material on the hard drive, DON'T report it. Just physically destroy the hard drive, because taking it to the police you are technically "in possession" of said material, and it's up to whoever you turn it in to whether or not they charge you. Also, this is one of the biggest reasons Americans don't support gun control laws, because instead of them being used against actual criminals, they tend to be used against law-abiding citizens more often. Just look at how many videos get posted of Glocks with switches on them, they're not getting visits from the ATF, or getting 10-year/$200k fines. You know who does? FFL's and law-abiding citizens over technicalities.
@@3X73RM The problem with "House ruling" is that now anyone with any sort of leanings can change how they punish someone based on said views, like say someone that is very disliked or at least is accused of something VERY bad.
maybe these teaxhers and parents would be safer to just let this sort of thing happen and pretend they didn't see it? new slogan: "if you don't want the time, do not report the crime!" I kmow, that's a terrible way to go about it...but i am sure it happens that way a lot, out of fear of the law, and being implicated for doing the right thing. maybe we need to figure out what is wrong with the kids these days and why they are obsessed with sharing nudes....i mean I guess it is natural for kids to act just like adults though, like who did they learn it from? the world needs a lot of help.
Can confirm. At least 80% of F-22 pilots are on the spectrum nerds who assumed Air Dominance would fast track them to their ultimate goal, astronaut. Now most of them are highly capable, precise, men with a axe to grind & something to prove.
@@DAFLIDMAN f/22 drivers are the nerds of their class. Top of their class. The best and brightest don’t get sent to the heavy community. With that said as soon as they hit enough flying hours to be realistically considered as an astronaut most all apply. They were the best of the best in all of their training. Logically it’s the next step.
In fairness to them, if an aerospace fighter (capable of exiting the atmosphere under it's own power to intercept objects in space in close quarter) is developed, it'll probably be complex enough that the kind of people they tap for it are the F22 and F35 pilots.
My personal opinion… congress has decided to stop the divestment of F-22s because of HLC. They want the Kid to intercept something before they have to retire it…🤣🤣🤣🤣
Russia: "Oh yeah, and what do I need to do to start acting like an adult smart guy?" USA: "Well for starters, how many times did you blame me when you didn't get what you want?" Russia: "Not once." USA: "And how many times did I blame you when I didn't get what I want?" Russia: "Quite a few times." USA: "Exactly! Learn to do politics correctly."
"Those people are jailed in Russia." Yes, and a couple of months later all their horrible crimes get pardoned in exchange for going to the battlefield and committing even more terrible crimes...
Or better yet, they will commit the same crimes on kids in the war zone! Almost 250k ukranian kids got kidnappes and sent to Russia ! How bleak and depressing!
“A nuke without radiation and a personal vendetta”. I seriously don’t think that anything could top this when describing the kid. Because he is lethal and vengeful.
HLC-we actually had that EXACT problem here in the states. A neighbor of mine a few years back was sexting his GF(both 16 at the time) and one of the moms found it, long story short 2 teens get prosecuted by an overzealous DA over typical teen stuff and a soccer mom nearly gets 5 years in jail for notifying the other mom of all this.They all got off charges only because the prosecuting got his chin rearranged in the parking lot by one of the said dads(former Mob oddly enough). Laws protecting kids are good and all, but here in the states they are usually worded poorly or have vast overreach that doesn't just break the 4th, but takes a nuclear shit all over it as well. For example I work on PCs and despite there being laws to protect me if I have to report someone there are JUST as many that could easily have me shutdown, jailed or worse JUST for doing the right thing.
Personal story but in high school I dated a girl a grade below me. I was a junior she was a sophomore. We dated for a year and a half and on my 18th birthday her father called the cops on me for statutory when we were at a Dairy Queen. It was the dumbest mess out tiny town had seen. Really helped solidify why her parents got divorced and she only spent two weekends with him a month. Anyway it became a hugely stupid mess just because I was now an adult but it was fine for the previous 16 months. Sometimes the law is just not built with nuance.
I guess I am more confused why they are trying to make court cases over parties that are under 18. I understand the idea, it's bad material no matter who shares/possess it and the kids should be taught that. But this is the same deal as someone who just turns 18 dating the same 17yr old they were dating while they were 17 and the parent using that against them like @nicomorales1644's case. It just seems like a jerk move to try and get those kids labeled as offenders when they are doing it with people their own age (as long as they are consenting and their is no "forced" coercion.) But I digress, yes, if it is a problem someone should be made aware. It being the police seems like a bit of a stretch.
@@Dkgow Some years back we had some guy killed here in Maine by a psychotic Canadian who'd accessed the state's database and came down and started going after listed people. One had been charged because she was 17, he was 18, and her father had a bug up his butt about it so went after him in court.
Guys, chill. American's don't ACTUALLY care if July 4th is used for something in another country. It's just one of those USA vs Britain jokes we play into.
Unfortunately the sense of humour is slightly different, I suspect that most English can't tell the difference between an US being serious or making a joke.
@@MartinPHellwigyeah us Brits are pretty awful at telling whether or not you're being serious, I feel like some of us are just ready to be "attacked" and as soon as something even remotely close to that happens they kinda lash out and act like a big dick. So just an apology if something like that happens, I've seen it happen alot unfortunately
@@MartinPHellwig well it would certainly help if you had more of a difference between reality and making a joke... unfortunately its clownworld mixed with more clownworld...
“Chaff, flares or Jesus Christ cannot save you from me.” Suddenly beginning to understand why patriot is the channel’s favorite system Holy crap a thousand likes in about nine hours, I cannot thank y’all enough for finding this comment funny and giving me so much information
That´s purely understandable.. After the Europanzer project´s America sat on it´s as and thunk;´´what´s the worse could happen´´ and chose to prepare couple clicks above that definition. The Stuff american military industry giant´s are churning out might seem overrated, but the stuff was designed is something that was designed to take on the Best the Moscow-Beijing axis could throw together, too bad the other side didn´t get the memo not to play chicken with the burger-people... There has been press buzz about F-22´´the kid´´ getting a comprehensive overhaul, i wonder if the videomaker is going to push the personality in roid-rage when making the kid with upgrades... On the other hand looking at Americas stealth-everything craze did produce some funky looking boats, someone must have mixed up their brownies while drawing them....
I'm gonna be honest. The thing with the germany thing sounds like a double edge sword, I get the idea. I could see the concerns, like some people can exploit that.
The point in Germany is that it clogged up our justice system. It's not decriminalizing it, it's setting the possible punishment low enough that the prosecutor can decide not to prosecute someone (as possession is already illegal, you'd also get in trouble for doing things like making a photo of it with your own device as evidence). For the purposes of the law, getting sent that stuff and your phone automatically downloading it is also enough btw. And considering the shit that children sometimes send each other, that is very iffy. Basically yeah, people that wanted to do the right thing ended up charged over it and there was nothing that the prosecutor could do about it. Now the prosecutor can actually differentiate between thode two things. Greetings from someone currently studying to be a teacher who had a seminar about that to protect ourselves from that.
It makes sense, I think the big confusing aspect with most people is them not exactly understanding the difference between how Germany's Civil Law system acts compared to a Common Law system, like is used here in the U.S. In the U.S. Judges just have this sort of flexibility innately. But that's also because part of a judge's responsibility is to interpret laws in a common law system.
I am a teacher that sometimes needs to confiscate cell phones. Under some state laws, if one of my students has taken an inappropriate selfie, I could be charged with possession even though I didn’t know what was on the phone, and didn’t have the power to unlock it. And I gotta say, it terrifies me.
@@byronheath8925 It's also terrifying in those same states if you had an 18yr old son/daughter receive something like that from their SO that is 17 years, 11 months, and 20 days old, would get just as harsh of a punishment even if in every state they can give each other consent for "adult" activities like that.
"getting sent that stuff and your phone automatically downloading it is also enough btw" thats fucked. Imagine someone spamming texts to you from burner phones and now your a criminal from just having a phone.
@@QueueWithACapitalQ well, that's why we were recommended to turn off automatic download, because it's basically once you have it in your phone storage.
@@benn454 It's less that we dislike Sachsen, it's more that both them and the Bavarians are entirely different accents to the two main types of german being spoken in the rest of the country. So naturally, they'll complain the accent chosen doesn't represent them when in reality the majority of germans with a heavy accent sound preeeetty similar to that.
@@Mucy_DE Gotcha. I'm American, so we're taught Hochdeutsch. I didn't really get to listen to other dialects like Austrian or Swiss, we were just taught they had different words for some things than Germans.
Regarding the change in law in Germany: Your understanding is generally correct. They want to lower the MINIMUM jail time in case of conviction from 12 month down to 3 month without touching the MAXIMUM jailtime. This is done so the process can be settled easier now because it is under the threshold of being a criminal offense and now is a minor offense. It is basically the same with drugs, you find them or get in possesion of them in a way that wasnt intended by you and bring them to a police station, you will automatically get investigated on illegal posession of drugs. It happened to me too after I joined an online secret santa and the dimwitt that send me a package put some speed in it. Point is: A criminal offense ALWAYS has to go to court. A minor offense can be closed before court. They want to speed up the justice system by enabling them to easier close those cases and use the freed up ressources for the real cases. It is not to lower the sentences in general.
@@patrickbicking4933 thats cause the f35 wasn't really all that great. its electronics were really the only thing special on it but take that and fit it to the 22? dear god the 22 is going to be able to do it all plus be flying demon.
*The United Kingdom:* I've decided to hold the general election on the 4th of July. *Also the United Kingdom:* why do I hear boss music? *The United States:* I'm inevitable. (Fun fact that iconic line actually came from Danny Phantom first, so now that I've rewatched that recently, I'll forever hear Dark Danny's voice saying it, not Thanos which...is a win win honestly)
Listen, 4th of July is on a Thursday, and traditionally we hold elections on a Thursday, announce the results the following Friday and the nation can digest it over the weekend in anticipation of the PM's first Monday.
@@LackofFaithify Oh it's banter. I just felt like it was a neat tidbit worth sharing. HLC has generally been pretty cool about the US' allies in his streams.
@@LackofFaithifyif anything, you'd think America would be a little happier, bc it's a chance for Britain to reject and eject a deeply unpopular and barely elected government of sort-of aristocrats that have foisted a number of very unpopular and frankly undemocratic policies onto the country, and it'll be done on a day with so much democratic symbolism surrounding it, that it's as sacred to Americans as Christmas and Easter are to Christians
I saw an F-22 for the first time at the Augusta Air Show today. Such an incredible piece of whoop ass. I honestly can’t fathom anything dog fighting one.
Ideally, you don't. Air combat today is more like a long range jousting match... and in that respect, the F-22 has all the advantages. Able to poke almost any other aircraft without getting poked in turn. Only the F-35 is a close contender at this point in time
I don't want to talk shit about any other content creator who does this type of voice over or animation style, but your videos are just *chefs kiss*. Your content is just hilarious as hell!
"Those people are jailed in Russia." Unless their last name happens to rhyme with Shootin' and they run the country, that is. (Seriously, why is that guy so... touchy around kids?)
Or are in any way, shape or form associated with the following: police, the Orthodox Church, army, civil services and/or guys named Sergiey who had 10 wives that all vanished in mysterious circumstances.
Every time you hit us with the "would you intercept me. I'd intercept me." it makes the day better. Also I hope that law in Germany goes as they intend it to, though I have a feeling it probably won't.
Which law is perfect? There is a better explanation further above in the comments by GandalfReagge. It's a very specific section of the law that is affected and blown out of proportion by foreigners.
Actually calling him a kid and making sexual jokes, could get you investigated by an overzealous prosecutor. Laws are read as black and white. Not grey.
"Chaff, flares or Jesus Christ, nothing can save you from me" I recall months ago Russian MID or Patriarchate or both in cooperation released some kind guidelines for pilots about purchasing icons of saints and some other religious accessories to be placed in their planes for divine protection.
Regarding the "Child sensitive content" you understood quite well. The law at the moment criminalizes parents or teachers, who show the respective parents of the shown child the material to warn them. Not just an offense, but a criminal act with at least one year of improsenment (can be judged ob probation). The problem is, that the record for a criminal act regarding minors NEVER gets deleted, like other records like theft for example. Also the 1 year imprisonment is the limit to remove a person from state jobs, like teacher, police etc. So a few person got criminalized, because their first reaction was to inform the respective parent of the shown child in the "Child sensitive content" to make them aware of the situation their child is in. Now the law shall be changed to not criminialize those people, but still to punish those who share it for other (sick!) reasons.
Given that Scotland created Britain after failing to conquer England far too many times and sponge off England….as well as blaming England for all the shit they caused in the empire (which they blamed England for creating)…yeah would be great for England to gain independence
People need to stop saying "decriminalization". That isn't what Germany did. A few years back they enacted stricter laws. These laws led to what HCL described. Germany just redid the law to go after criminal intent, not teachers or parents who stumble upon it.
On the buoys. It wasn't towards Finland but rather towards Estonia. Basically Russia went out and removed the border demarcation buoys in the Narva river in blatant disrespect to international law a day or so after a memo was leaked by Russian media about the Russian state wanting to unilaterally change their borders with their baltic neighbours (memo only mentioned the Kaliningrad exclave to my limited knowledge). This move was either brilliant maskirovka trying to jerk around the west for caring about buoys, or an attempt by Russia to provoke the west by stealing land.
@@jsquared1013 cuz if it was maskirovka it worked. It made the west mad enough to threaten russia and russian media can use that internally to show how aggresive the west is that they would threaten "actions" over something as small as a buoy on a river.
@@jsquared1013 masking their bullshit with even more bullshit to try and rile up enemy countries while sorta making them change their area of focus for abit... brilliant in theory, not exactly so in practice...
Child explicit material (nudes) was outlawed in Germany around 1998. I still remember supermarkets in Germany selling black and white child explicit material in the 90s.
It is not unusual no matter how well-intended a law is, there are always unintended consequences that pop up…. Such as that poor teacher and the parents. Thankfully the German government is working to unwind the situation. I do appreciate the explanation from the German citizens' posting. When I initially heard about the “change” I was extremely perplexed. Thanks for the fulsome explanation. 🇺🇸🌵👵🏻💕 🇩🇪
The world is getting closer and closer to “that was the last straw” type issues. When that happens, and the kid actually gets out of that hanger, with all the upgrades, the world will wish they had all played nice
Yes. The UK holds its normal elections and some guy on RU-vid thinks its a vote about NATO and throws in a F-22 plot line. Spoiler: the UK's normal election has nothing to do with NATO or some NATO related conspiracy or the F-22.
Okay, for a moment there, I thought Germany lost it's damned mind. But that reasoning does make sense. Parents trying to protect their children shouldn't be punished for doing so. Buuut I imagine there's going to be some kind of implication that comes with it that'll be problematic...
Intentions are indeed good based on what I've read...Buuuuuuuut I can unfortunately see a TON of potential exploitation of this now loophole to give adults the means send explicit materials of children. Should adults be punished for reporting their child having sexual minor material as they should? Many would say no, but it's not exactly a stretch to see how the true PDFiles would use that law to give themselves a barrier against potential prosecution.
@@noobpuncher8571 I don't even know why parents would be reporting their own children over embarrassing personal material in the first place. What the hell is going on over there?
@@gothpunkboy89his response will 90 percent be:"Just kill all bad guys, bring back executions", without considering the realistic challanges it will pose.
@@233Deadman Are you joking?... "Probably". The kid could crash land arse-first in the Thames and still be capable of doing a better job of running the UK than the last lot and the upcoming lot put together.
I dig those 4th wal breaks XD Learning and laughing are the two things im looking for in a YT video. HLC has it all figured out. Keep it up. I feel like "the kid" waiting for your videos.
also people in the u.s.a. were taking photos or films of their kids playing in the bath and getting charged with child pornography there needs to be a little sense used here folks
@@Leovader123 US judicial system in a nutshell: > Pdf.files share A"I" generated pics of kids and pdf.filic pron sites advertise on Xitter I sleep > concerned dad takes a photo of a rash R E A L S H I T
I thought I heard the phrase "British food sucks", but I couldn't quite hear through the chocolate coated, deep-fried Twinkie in your mouth, F-22. 😜 (🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸)
@@LackofFaithify Not from either of the octogenerians running for office. This would be funded by European Union members at least mostly, it appears, and ensures Ukraine, a country who's opinion of communist governments is about as low as it gets at the moment, get funding to defend themselves. That's it. I didn't say US would if X or Y candidate wins or loses.
Although there will always be some people who DO care for whatever reason, majority do not. It's just a joke that essentially Britian can't do anything on the day USA kicked their butt because that's ~America's day~.
Ummmm? Because it's the United world of America? And 4th of July is a world holiday❤. The birth of the nation that has brought humanity into the single greatest period of prosperity in human history
@@nathanielalaburgDelhi *looks at chaos from both sides of the election.* *looks at Biden sucking as a president.* *looks at congress members who've been in power forever.* Yeaaaaah. I love America, but not like this man....
The short answer is it could be seen as disrespectful. The US was one of the largest contributing factors into NATO being formed in 1949. The US also supplies the most funding to NATO , last known estimates was the US gives about 22% of NATOs overall funding. There may also be an issue over the timing as implications for public attention and engagement, as many people might be focused on holiday activities rather than legislative matters.
4th of July is not a World Holiday. As much as I appreciate America's contributions to the world, said world does not revolve around you.@@nathanielalaburgDelhi
So like.... How hard is it to instead of get rid of a law entirely, you just modify the current one with an exception to the rule? To protect said parents. How... How hard is that?
Not hard to amend the current law, which is actually what they did. The issue I do have is their softening of the penalties for possession (Used to be 1 year imprisonment and a felony charge, now it's three months and a misdemeanor.) Again, I get why they did what they did. But the truth is they should have made parent-teacher/pastor/whatever clauses instead of reducing the sentencing.
Germany is not removing that law... they are modifying it because according to the articles, the majority of people charged are minors sending their own images. At this time, the minimum sentence is one year in prison which automatically makes it a felony no matter the circumstances. The modified law would have a minimum sentence of six months, removing the mandatory felony entry in the criminal records and allowing the courts more flexibility to account for the circumstances.
@@noobpuncher8571 The solution that was chosen offers flexibility, adding special clauses can cause problems down the line, cause your bound to miss something. Maximum possible sentence remains the same btw, and the change to felony a couple years back was criticized for exactly this reason by professionals (Judges and Prosecutors)
The problem you get is that a lot of people possessing and making cheese pizza are the parents abusing their kids. Germany seems to have gone with idea of letting judges have more discretion, when really it should just be prosecutors exercising discretion when it's strict liability
When you're talking about legal stuff, usually VERY EFFING HARD. Everything hinges on wording, because you always have people looking for loopholes, and over-zealous police looking to enforce laws even when it isn't in the spirit of why they exist to bump their arrest numbers. Example of the latter, arresting a parent for reporting explicit material they found on their child's phone.
I find it funny how Europe says it wants to be more independent from USA and put Europe first yet when USA says it wants to start putting USA first, Europe throws a huge tantrum and starts calling USA isolationist.
If people are unaware the “NATO proofing is Trump” he said 1. Allow Russia to do whatever the heck it wants” 2. He would leave NATO 3. Has an unhealthy relationship with Putin and Kim Jon Un that’s why American allies are nervous soooo anyone concerned about our economic or soft/hard power globally might want to consider this a problem. That’s why this happened because when you have a man child running the top nation Europe becomes concerned
In 2015, I went on a high school band & choir trip to Europe. We arrived in London late afternoon, July 4th. That evening, on the Millennium Bridge, we lit sparklers and sang American Patriotic Hymns & Tunes. It was the most rebellious thing I'd done -- looking back, we should have found some tea to throw over the side.
Considering some candidates complaining about NATO being dependent on US support, you'd think the other members exercising their own initiative would be considered a positive. That's how I'm looking at it, anyway.
That’s not what this or means they are concerned because Trump is a man child who doesn’t understand foreign policy or economics and has an unhealthy relationship with Putin and Kim plus he’s scaring our allies because of his rhetoric about just letting Putin run wild, America runs on faith you break that and we are done
*NATO:* "Okay, we need to get our act together, because America is about to suffer an electoral aneurysm and will either become aggressively useless or passively useless. Still more effective than Russia, but that's not saying much."
If people are unaware the “NATO proofing is Trump” he said 1. Allow Russia to do whatever the heck it wants” 2. He would leave NATO 3. Has an unhealthy relationship with Putin and Kim Jon Un that’s why American allies are nervous soooo anyone concerned about our economic or soft/hard power globally might want to consider this a problem.
If I remember correctly, the kid should be even more happy to have rematch against that Eurofighter Typhoon. British shouldn't open that can of worms as they own some.
Germany is not decriminalizing it. The current law has a mandatory sentence of 1-10 years which automatically makes it a felony due to the minimum sentence. That minimum is reduced to six months to give the courts more flexibility to account for circumstances and close cases at the lowest punishment without felony entry in cases of minors, or involuntary recipients, being charged.
As a British guy, I will be glad to declare independence from the evil bastards we currently have in our government. On behalf of the British public, I'd like to politely ask if we can share that date in a positive way for us both, for just this one year?
As an American, I hereby grant you permission with the power invested in me since 1776. Just make sure you have a drink or watch a fireworks compilation or something.
@@joeclaridy If Europe feels sufficiently threatened I think they would take defense very seriously and change course. They have industry and technology in place. We retooled fairly quickly going into WW2. I think Europe could too. Russia can keep going because they have a stockpile of old material, and they can win and push forward for quite a while, but, long term, outside of nukes and the threat of nukes they don't have the capability to truly recover much less keep going. Ukraine could be Putin's Afghanistan, only more problematic as there's a lot of other elements going on. Russia and Ukraine have changed modern war. Cheap drones. Europe wants in, if only to learn and gain some experience so they're not caught completely flatfooted. Only utopian idealists believe they'll never go to war again. I think there's enough realists in Europe that can balance their liberal, socialist ideals with the reality of the threat of regional thugs.
I don't think that's really the point, it's more about the friction that our current president and either future president are causing or will cause with NATO. Biden is a fence sitter and isn't supporting the effort in Ukraine as much as he could be and doesn't want to give access to better NATO weapons for Ukraine's conflict and also doesn't want to treat them as a full member of NATO. Meanwhile, if Trump is elected, he's threatened to leave NATO several times. NATO is a collective of Nations, but the U.S. benefits from it more than the rest by having lined up buyers of equipment and accessibility to bases in other nations for rapid mobility.
Well when America was run by legitimate people who didn’t get chummy with Putin or NK like Trump did or threaten our Allie’s Europe has no choice, I still don’t get this argument America needs its allies because if things pop off yall aren’t alone. China and Russia are basically alone accept for each other and a few rogue states the U.S. has all of NATO to help which saves US lives in case of conflict duh
That's because it's a joke. It's meant to be silly. Americans in general don't ACTUALLY care. We're just playing our part in the joke by pretending to be upset.
The unfunny part for me was just him talking about sending an F22 at an ally over using said day. If it was Russia or some other asshat country I'd had laughed. But not our boys.
@@nemisisarcher8213 thats just to show that america aint entirely pleased about that, not exactly "russia will use nuclear warheads" kind of thing, but you get where im going with this... the kid will probably remain locked in the hangar, which is slowly being renovated into having padded walls or something at this point...
Okay, that last line was fire. Still, I was actually kind of hoping all the F22 stuff was a Red Herring, and the hanger in question was going to full of tea, and located in close proximity to Boston Harbor . . .
In few years Germany gonna come out and say "We already relaxed the laws on CP, may as well decriminalize it" watch. I hope Im wrong, but that's a direction in which they are heading.
"The best countermeasures like Chaff and Flare." Russia, look. I'm a countermeasures guy. So I speak from experience when I say you thinking chaff and flare is the best countermeasure explains a lot. There are probably local Sheriff's departments here in the US that have Cessna's with better ECM suites than just chaff and flare.