Grandal runs into the throw on purpose, a breakdown 

Using wands to cast magic is illegal, but nothing in the rules says you cant use your cane. LOOPHOLE!

It's a legacy rule left over from when baseball was ruled over by an Oligarchy of aging sorcerers

Are you sure you can't believe it? It's MLB.

I laughed so hard 🤣🤣🤣

@@lofigaming1092 just be sure to counterspell the right guy

As long as you consistently get in the way, yes.

He established the path before the throw

Certainly seems like he tracked what the trajectory the ball would be taking to get home and put himself in front of it.

@@elcidS15 To quote Grandal, "I told the guys in the dugout, 'It was just good baserunning', we will leave it at that"

Perfectly put. If you intentionally got in the way from the beginning of your run, it’s unintentionally getting in the way.

They're all unwritten

@Jameer Nelson no, unwritten rules are a thing, just look at hockey

No. This is an obvious rule. The umps just fucked up.

It’s a ton of rules for the batter and pitcher usually

The crazy thing is that even if the runner is called out the guy running to home would still be safe so long as he was already halfway and there's an out to spare. So breaking the rules can still grant the run lol

Hell, I can read lips of people wearing masks, with their backs turned, standing in a dark stadium, from 100 yards away, so long as no one who was actually there happens to be here.

U thought he wore it because of COVID?! 😂

@@Frostshokula not one single person said covid... except you.

Cry babies always know what others are thinking and saying.

No doubt in my mind he’s cool with the guys from Bad Lip Reading

OMG 😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for that! Lmao

😂😂😂

That makes so much sense

It's all in the fine print.

This was great because I was invested in a getting a real explanation or something and then bam left turn right in to it, you got me.

That was an instant LOL moment when they all actually did that in unison.

this had me legit crying laughing

I thought it was a hilarious quote then the umps actually did it😂😂😂

I was dying when I saw the head motion after that.

My wife thought I was nuts for laughing out loud at a YT video. She doesn't understand.

yeah, if it was said in realtime, not timed on a made up replay video LOL

Bro he edited the video himself of course its timed to perfection.

I assume they meant how they all lowered their heads at the same time.. unless you’re joking but I honestly can’t tell lol

You know this wasn't live, right?

bro has 4 people replying straight up ruining the joke, fuckin goofballs 🤣

It is a heads-up play. Smart catcher.

1st base just gets pissed and rifles ball into grass runners face next time.

@@TimTayl I played baseball to the minors, I was a middle infielder. I was taught since high school that on a double play if the runner coming to second doesn’t slide to just let it rip as normal, which will crack them around the chin/ chest area, because that’s the natural aiming point. Don’t see why this is different.

@Throg That behavior won’t make it to any competitive level of baseball, which is why you don’t see pros doing it on double plays. The fact you’d rather take a ball off the chin then give up an out is absurd. “Cool you broke up the double play, now you’re out for the rest of the season with a broken face”

@@drossi101 Any competitive player would take a ball to the chest if it meant advancing a runner 1-2 bases for free, that's just not a good idea whatsoever unless you want to lose the game

Dusty Baker saw almost the same play unwind before his eyes in 1981. This is the infamous not-called interference on Reggie Jackson during the Yankees@Dodgers World Series. I’m sorry, I don’t remember the game #, but I know it was in L.A. That case seemed even more egregious than this, but the umpires ruled in New York’s favor. Ultimately didn’t matter, because the Dodgers won the series.

@@MarcosElMalo2 reggie jackson at yankee stadium.

game 4 in 1978

@@MarcosElMalo2 Wrong World Series. Jackson threw a hip check into the ball that would have made Geordie Howe proud.

@@MarcosElMalo2 As mentioned above it was game 4 in '78. The Yankees actually went on to win the game in extra innings and the series in 6.

I'm just wondering why Dusty Baker looks like a create-a-player with all the accessories equipped.

@@RAZGR1Z YOOOO HE DO 😂

And your comment just got to 100 likes, even better

If only it woulda bn Joe West, woulda made my day!

@@RAZGR1Z LMAO 👍👍

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Part of the reason he's so much better, is because he can say whatever he wants to, on RU-vid. He would also likely suck on ESPN, because they would hamstring him.

People who actually love a thing, and are not corporate, are better. How is that shocking, again?

Just imagine if baseball commentators were anywhere close to this informative and funny, people would actually watch baseball.

I agree. Even ESPN forgets the White Sox exists.

Was not

really? seeing this scummy shit has ruined baseball for me. seems like crappy players will do anything for W, its sickening.

@@benrodir2 no rules were broken, unlike when the Asstros cheated.

I think this was a new one for a lot of the people in the game, like the managers.

@@benrodir2 - Apparently, it’s legal, so what are you complaining about?

@@benrodir2 Nothing about this is scummy. This is well within the rules. This is far from the first time it has happened, and it will continue to happen because the runner establishes their path. He wasn't running on the outside of the line, then made a hard left to get in the way. He was on the inside the entire time. Don't blame him for getting hit, blame the first baseman for not making a better throw.

anyone can take a video and come up with commentary, harder to do it live

@@jamesw71 Jomboy is the best at it, which is the main point that flew right over your head.

what is going on with dusty’s get up?

@@countrycorner9337 idk he's been wearing it since the season start, I mean he's old and covid is like a death sentence for old people ig

@@ccard4 if he’s vaccinated at this point he shouldn’t be so worried about an outdoor sport tho lol

@@lsandjs9793 yeah but he dripping tho 🥶

@@lsandjs9793 Cubs had 2 or 3 players go on IL the last few days of the season, who were vaccinated. Astros were playing in Chicago; that might have something to do with it. But yes, I wouldn't be so covered up, either.

He cheated with the astros wtf?

@@EsveePaulFedSlayer the pitchers didn't really cheat did they? Like being an Astro and not telling anyone sure that's cheating but he didn't directly cheat

@@nickymolitoris799 You don't remember? Greinke almost won a quad crown in 2017.

Greinke just looks like the type of guy to take advantage of his situations. Smart heads up guy.

He was with the dbacks in 2017

There is no "baseline" or base path he needs to be in. it is not illegal to run on the grass.

@@alanhess9306 So essentially if someone is on third going for home and you are the batter, you can stand in front of the catcher to make sure your guy gets home safe. Not the intent of the rule but that is how it can and was abused.

@@PurpleMcNuggets If we are talking about a pitch, yes the batter can stay in the box and has the right to swing at the pitch.

I think the rule should be modified too. They should change it to the runner has to be running in the direction of the base. The lane he took, if extended out, would go right into the first baseman not even close to first base.

@@bearsvision5697 agreed.

I mean if that guy is ready to get his butt whooped then go for it

@@blakemoser7148 lol part of the play 🤣

Except AJ even said that was dirty

White Sox catchers stick together

@@DirtyD07 yeah but if you don’t think that doesn’t mean AJ would’ve absolutely done it anyways then you don’t fully remember what kinda player aj was

@@ericsimon1947 Totally agree. Aj would always do the weird little stuff to win. Has a really good knowledge of what you can “technically” do.

hahahahaha that's baseball!

"Let us pray that this is clearly written about in the rule book so we don't have to wing it."

He has per the rules are you relatively free baseline up until 45 feet

@@brendenohaire8959 what?

Haha, classic ejection.

that's from the time w Collins calling him a cocksucker

@@meddlingmage23 yeah that was hilarious

Haha 😂

@@meddlingmage23 Terry Terry Terry Terry Terry Terry, you know the situation!

This is especially important for people who think they know the rules, but don’t.

I was a certified high school umpire, now retired; this MLB crew got it wrong, sadly. Batter/runner can be in fair territory there, but not outside the 3 foot baseline. Being out of the base path, whether the batter makes a specific move to swat at the ball or something such in that case is moot. It was interference. If batter was in legal base path, then umpire would be correct. I didn't watch this game live, but I have not seen if the crew looked at a replay or not. They should have, I think.

@@rayrussell6258 There is no base path the runner must be in. Until a tag is attempted. the runner can run wherever he pleases. The umpires were right. Running in the grass is not illegal and there was no interference with the throw.

@@rayrussell6258 It is my understanding that the 3-foot rule only applies when a fielder is attempting to apply a tag and that it does not apply in any other situation.

@@rayrussell6258 if you were a high school umpire, then this is a rule you didn't learn correctly. this would not be interference under NFHS rules either. the runner's chosen path is just as legal in high school as it is here. there is no base path the runner is expected to run in, unless the ball is being fielded TO first base.

HA. Good one.

I don’t know if we can blame Greinke for 2017.

Imagine thinking that knowing a pitch makes you hit harder and launch bombs, but juicing isn’t an issue 😂

Wow. Great take.

@@stevenbertrand7709 someone got triggered

it was a very well done play he knew the ball was gonna be thrown at first or home so he got in the way at the start

I doubt it’ll be changed. Because the base path rule for first base comes in two parts. Establishing your base path to start which is on the grass. The second part to that is half way down the line he has to get to the outside of the foul line. So because the play happened in the first 45ft of Grandal running it is legal. Them changing the base path rule will inhibit righties from ever running on the grass. Putting them at a disadvantage and potentially cause them to be out instantly because they’d have to in theory step on home plate to get to that outer half right away.

@@TheSemiAnnualAthlete No! The change can be made such that if the ball does not hit you, do whatever you want to do; but if the ball hits you while you are on the grass, you are out. A righty runns 1 step on the grass would not touch the incoming ball.

@@TheSemiAnnualAthlete I personally hope it's changed, coming out of the batters box, the player has plenty of room to run in the base path. If a player purposely runs inside the base path on the grass, like what happened in this case, then the player should be called out for interference. Forget about the current rule. What is your opinion, rule change or what?

@@johnvisconti3010 i say you would have to come up with a special rule for lefties because if it’s a general rule it affects righties

How many lives you got? ;)

It LITERALLY kills you?

@@BobbySacamano a cat wrote this comment

That's not what literally means god damnit.

We're all very curious how you typed this out having literally, died.

Now that I look back at it its cringe

jomboy has done a similar one already.

@Coding Crusader its stupid since the baseline is already wide enough for the runner, everyone would run like that then if theres a runner on third and they hit a grounder to first

@@arcadeplayer9804 The runner can run wherever he wishes. Why shouldn't they run like that?

And benching you when you don’t perform.

@Coding Crusader Have you ever heard my wife?

That's the part where it gets me, if he's a right handed batter, sure, but the fact that he's a lefty, he has no reason to go to the grass... it's like the banana route in the out field, gonna start running at second, oh wait, thats the wrong bag, lets go a little to the right.

@@frimbooze Exactly! No strategic reason to be there, makes it feel even more intentional

The throw hadn't been fielded yet when he took that lane. He was intentionally running in the grass not knowing exactly where the throw was going to be coming from but having a pretty good idea where it was likely going to be coming from. He didn't intentionally get in the way of the throw, he intentionally ran where the throw (yet to have started) was likely to be. That's not intentionally interfereing

@@coopaloopmex it's allowed intentionally interference. There is a line, where the intentional interference will not be allowed. This somehow didn't cross that line

@@revanche1431 the strategic reason for getting in the way was to obstruct the 1st baseman’s view of the catcher. Tactical decision. Smart play.

love the hate

@@MrMatt713 why? You on the team?

ayo killer six in the jomboy comments let’s goooooo

#TRASHSTROS

@@bryanmurphy276 , why you wanna know? you play for a team?

😂😂😂😂

Same!! 😂🤣😂

Yeah, because his coaches taught him to do this in a situation like this. In baseball, you drill things over and over to the point where when a ball is hit, you know EXACTLY what you are going to do in virtually every circumstance. You are in a state of infinite actions at once, depending on where and how the ball is hit determines what your action ends up being. So if you think that he didn't have a plan to intentionally run into the path of the ball as soon as it was hit(he CAN see the trajectory of the ball off the bat, and he can use where he is standing as a point of reference), you're not only delusional, you just know absolutely nothing about baseball. He clearly takes steps to the left FOR NO REASON as soon as the ball is hit. Because he knows that will legally put him in the path of the play.

@@ThePdog3k And? Did he intentionally take this line? Of course he did. He knew what he was doing. But the main fact is that he established it as his base path immediately. He didn't take a side step to it while the ball was being thrown or right afterwards to correct to his more natural line. He picked it and continued on with it.

@@ThePdog3k obviously he knew what he was doing. He made a fair, smart play. I don't get why people want "the rules changed" - - yeah, take the few remaining possibilities for interesting strategy left in baseball away.. That will do so much good. If it were up to people like you, they'd only be allowed to move on the x and y axis, would have to bend the knee to at least 100 degrees on every step, and have two fingers on the seams for every throw otherwise it's "illegal"... Leave it. Leave some fun and surprise/unexpectedness in the game, please

Not really. Impossible to prove that his base path was intentional (though likely). If you see a guy literally interfere like A-Rod slapping the ball out it's a cut and dry situation.

@@jeccdog7584 That's why you have the baseline. If you're not runing on the baseline you should be called out for interference, no matter if it was intentional or not. So yeah, I agree, they should get rid of the subjective enforcement rules.

@@jeccdog7584 With A-rod their is no reason to read intent, he wore that play on his sleeve. Intent is for when we aren't totally sure but it leans heavily one direction or another.

To me, the path that he took while running was an intentional blocking of the ball. Running along that path would serve no other purpose during another baseball play where the ball was hit into the same area and there was not a play at home, or if the ball was hit to another area. Not only is he taking a longer path to get to first base, but whoever covers first base will be in his way when he tries to tag the bag or if a fielder has the ball and tries to tag him out, he is running closer to the fielders that are trying to tag him. The only possible benefit of taking that path is to be in the way of a throw to home plate. Therefore, the intent of taking that running path is to block the ball and that is an intentional act of blocking the ball. I am a Cubs fan, but I honestly have no ill will towards the socks aside from when we play them

the rule should be ammended to just stay in the dirt strip

I've done some umpiring over the years. The whole running out of the base "path" thing is a tricky call to make. Every coach wants it called when they're on defense. I like that you mentioned that a tag has to be "attempted on the runner". Basically after having established his path, deviating(3 feet) from that path once a tag is attempted could be considered running out of the base path. Now what is a "tag attempt"? That's another ball of wax. Some judgment and good common sense by the umpire is required for the running out the base path call to be made. As for making a "travesty of the game", I've heard of Runners running straight for right field from first on a double steal. It confuses the defense just long enough for the run from third to score. And because no tag attempt has yet been made on the runner from first, the Run could score before the defense can make the out on the runner from first. Technically it's legal but it is a travesty in my opinion.

@@paulalstrom4144 running out of the base path is an easy call to make because there is no base path until a tag is attempted. In all my years of umpiring, I've never been cofused by what constitutes a tag attempt.

I wasn't arguing your comment or coming at you bro. I just was adding my two cents. I don't disagree with you at all

His body was already there. It was nothing more than a bad throw by F3.

@@alanhess9306 So if he hits a grounder up the middle he should run towards the pitchers mound? Out of the baseline should be out of the baseline.

@@connorcoultas9629 doesn’t matter as long as he stays true to his route going to first base, and makes no attempt that can be conveyed as him intentionally knocking or deflecting the ball in flight.

@@davidreyling9687 how do you stay 'true to your route' when your route is a curved line? his true route would have took him to right field.

@@MrMatt713 once he established his route he did not deviate from that route. His route he established was on the infield grass. It does not matter how he ended up being there.

Are you sure it was the 1990s? Not the 1890s? Or the 1790s? Or even the 2090s?!

Or just drill the runner for being an asshole. If the runner looks like he's intending to run in the way of a throw, the fielder should just peg the runner. That would also be well within the rules.

That's what Grandal wanted, yes.

@@frocat5163 but pegging the runner doesn't get anyone out, and lets the run score and other runners take extra bases. extracting a little pain from the runner in exchange for all that seems like a pyrrhic victory to me.

When will people just shut up and get over this?

We’re not, what the fk….What a kook statement.

This incident wasnt even related to cheating lmao ur comment doesnt make any sense

It was just bad umpiring

@@LCSClips22 I still think that Astros didn’t cheat bro

Giants had every opportunity to score and they chocked 🤣 even without the check swing they would've lost.

Giants didn’t do shit but have turf hit a home run they got shut out all game and there last hitter was a bum. No need to review

@@sneakypanda9225 the score was within a run.. Nah yall cant play that nonsense lmao it wasnt like it was a blow out. Ya never want an ump getting in the way. Especially on the last out of the series.. Also there was some pretty bad calls at bat that would have put the dodgers in a real bad spot. SEVERAL times in the game. Even the announcers were on em. If the dodgers were say the rockies. No way would they get those calls.. Js

Oh man I hope he does.. Those were some really bad calls

yea and replays that night right after 3rd strike was called did NOT show home plate

Yeah its almost like something as crucial as that job shouldnt be left up to old fat retarded men and should be relegated to a machine...

Becoming an ump is difficult. STAYING an ump, no matter now shitty you are is apparently easy.

To be fair, he was way tf out of the baseline, intentionally interfered with the throw, which is explicitly addressed in the rule book 7.08-B: "A runner is out when he intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball....A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not."

@@secondstring There is no base path the runner needs to be in until a tag is attempted. The runner can run where he pleases. The rule you quoted has nothing to do with this play. He did not intentionally interfere with the throw. He did not interfere with a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. Try again.

@@alanhess9306 Ok... You're gay! 😂🤣🤣😅 Gotem.

@@alanhess9306 - Exactly what part of "A runner is out when he intentionally interferes with a thrown ball" do you not fucking get??? Are you dense??? That's what he did. He interfered with a thrown ball.

@@secondstring What part of "the runner establishes his own basepath" are you struggling with? And Grandal didn't intentionally interfere with the throw. He established his basepath in two steps, and didn't deviate, didn't reach for the ball, didn't lean into the ball.

I always thought that white stuff was the base path down the lines....wait, there is no set base path for a runner leaving home? What??

@@Rhaumar those are foul lines. That's it

@@ieaatclams there's an extra white line that isn't the foul line. He is talking about that.

@@Rhaumar No it is not the base path. You thought wrong. The running lane is irrelevant on this play.

Do you blame him?

@@vinnygi I don't blame him. It's his channel. He's free to make or not make videos featuring whichever teams he wants. I feel like he's missed out on some interesting moments that would've been worthy of breakdowns and I would've enjoyed his lip-read edits on them... but I get it, he's a Yankee, and an Astro hater. He's made that well known. To each their own.

Yea he’s a an Astro hater and it’s gonna keep being like that because the Astros are gonna keep being the Yankees daddies

@@humbertocantu1986 that and everytime theres a houston recap the comment section is flooded with comments of them cheating a series win.

Red Sox - Astros ALCS is a real kick to the d-- I guess we’ll be seeing Dodgers-Braves breakdowns coming up.

Nonsense. A runner in the lane is protected from interference. The runner can run wherever he wants and he did not interfere. You don't know wtf you are talking about.

@@alanhess9306 I think they might be talking about the Trea Turner incident, pump the brakes

for a play at first, the runner has the 3 feet in foul territory and must be there in the final 45 feet of the base path, and has 1 step in fair territory when getting to the bag. Trae Turner took more than 1 step in fair territory. Hes out, its the rules and they are fine rules. Know them and use them to your advantage. The throw could've been better here and the runner was burned.

@@atk237 its ok, can't fix stupid

@@atk237 Totally different situation.

Or just not allow runners in fair territory on the first base line. There is literally no reason to running fair territory other than to interfere with plays down the line. Especially for a left handed batter.

There is nothing that needs to be fixed except for maybe a better throw from F3. The runner can run wherever he wishes.

@@alanhess9306 just stop typing. We all watched the video and know the rule... doesn't change the fact that it is a shit rule and should be changed.

@@mellamojay2 There are obviously a bunch of dimwits commenting here who do not know the rule.

@@mellamojay2 No, they rule doesn't need to be changed.

Except this play didn't challenge the rulebook at all. It's very clearly legal to every ump and rules expert.

@@Robertthebob All because it is currently, doesn't mean it should be. If the umps would of called interference on that play, no one would of questioned it because we know it was interference. Intentional or not, you should not be able to impede the play at home like that. This would allow you to safety squeeze a bunt down the first base line and slowly jog right along the ball in the grass (thereby making the play at home nearly impossible).

He can't run at the pitcher, that would be abandoning efforts to advance to the next base.

You might want to reread 5.09(b)(2) again. First, it only applies after the runner has touched 1st base. Second, if you read the comment then you would know how it still wouldn’t be abandoning his attempt to run the bases.

One could argue that he just made the play more difficult and has the Astros 1B taken a step further to his right, he might have made the play. It’s not on the runner to make the play easier for the defense. Hell, it’s not uncommon for them to make it harder, which is exactly what we have here.

@@SixStringDave_90 I don’t disagree but where/how do you draw the line? “Intention” seems like such an ambiguous word. Of course a team/player is going to *intentionally* play in such a way that helps them win, but when does it cross over into breaching the rules?

@@zacd4902 Watch the play, dawg. He never makes a movement toward the ball to deflect it. He just angles his body before the throw. Once the throw is made, if a runner makes a move toward to the ball to stop or deflect it, that’s interference. There was a little bit of gamesmanship here, sure, and it was a little dirty, no doubt. Grandal knew what he was doing by making the play more difficult for the fielder, but there were no rules broken.

@@SixStringDave_90 dawg. I’m not disagreeing with you guys. “He just angles” -> Did he intend to angle himself?

@David Garcia put another way - where is it established that “chicken winging” is intentional, but “establishing your base path in a non-typical area on purpose” is NOT intentional? That’s all I’m saying.

It was definitely a check swing.

Not to mention the bad calls that would have put the dodgers in a bad spot. SEVERAL times throughout the game.. Rockies would never get those calls brah

"Independent semi pro" Lmao. School ball?

@@mw3653 frontier league is not school ball lmao. It’s literally what he said, semi-pro.

most players do instinctively move out of the way of the ball once it's thrown, because, you know, it hurts when it hits you... but they have no obligation to I'd think that most umpires working Frontier league games would call this right.

@@Tyler-jv6tt AKA school ball

@@mw3653 It's a much higher tier than school ball. My town had a frontier league team and I remember a pitcher Josh Kinney making it to the majors after pitching there. It's just below Single A.

@@kqatsi even you don't believe your bullshit comment

@@kqatsi If it was a play to first, he would be out. Makes zero sense to change it going the other way. The base path up first, is to the outside of the baseline for a reason... Sure things can happen to take you inside of that, but if you obstruct a play while outside the designated base path, it should be an out. The INTENT is even questionable. I think it is a bogus call and goes against the spirit of the rules. Ps- Jays fan so I have no skin in the game.

Yeah, hips don't move laterally to have the foot hit a 15 inch bag inside the baseline.

@@truenorth2653 There is no base path the runner needs to be in until a tag is attempted. The runner can run where he pleases.

@@truenorth2653 Maybe all 4 bases should have a 3 ft. runners lane going the entire distance between each base. Just write a letter to the commissioner and let him know. This could be a huge improvement!

And some first basemen who would throw the ball directly at the runner's head.

no umps who know the rules.

@@frocat5163 Just like catchers are taught to if a runner doesn't cede the batter's box on an attempted steal to third. I saw quite a few hitters beaned when I played, and the same number called out.

@@Dizzifying1 Yep. Someone elsewhere pointed out hitting the runner (or batter) wouldn't actually help your team in the current situation, which is true. But it will make the beaned player think twice about getting in the way next time.