Nah, coz that would've meant that they'd still actually have to put in some actual fucking effort and _MAKE SOMETHING!_ The Overwatch devs don't want to put any effort in, they just want to pump out another colour-swapped skin and charge you $25
For $250 US, you can get: • Almost 140 taco bell tacos • Markiplier's tactical shovel, with about $40 left over • A llama, from a llama rental at $150/hr • 4 copies of Luigi's Mansion 3 • Two pairs of eight inch heeled thigh-high vegan leather stripper boots • A rentable boyfriend for about 3 hours in Japan • A literal opal necklace from Kohls • 16 pairs of Hanes ecosmart sweatpants • a puppy
bro 250 is not an ungodly amount of money, its jusy unreasonable for a videogame, let alone one that's free-to-play. this isn't "spend bill gates money"
@@blinkerz4676 I never said it was bill gates' money. I looked up what you could buy for $250 instead of a game DLC. I'd personally really rather rent the llama.
Just comparing it to other video games is enough to make it ridiculous tbh. For $250 you can buy all the Dark Souls games with their DLCs, Elden Ring, _and_ Hollow Knight and you would _still_ have $10 left over. And that's full release price with no discounts of course.
I love how the developer, Nikita, gets on a podcast with Pestily and says his plan for the future of tarkov not including any pay to win elements and keeping it all purely as cosmetics and whatnot and not even 2 weeks later rolls out this crock of dogwater.
Thats on you for trusting anything any game dev or company says, they are not your friends they are mouth pieces that will say anything to sell more copys YES that includes the ones you like too none are exempt
@@noctotainlowry9246 No you walking pile of frozen toilet water. It’s not on us for “trusting” game developers. We’re holding them responsible for lying to us, because unlike you, we want to actively change this shitty business practice by actively pointing out the hypocrisy. How stupid does someone have to be to think they are superior for not only shitting on people in the right but also assuming you’re somehow in the right while actively fighting against the good side.
a cat for 100 Dollars? Damn thats cheap... the two dogs that my mom own cost over 1K Euros each. Important Note: Some people dont know that you can buy specific breeds and such that cost more than adopting a cat or a dog. Reasons for those may vary but a main factor may be childhood related events or just there not being a animal shelter in town. Prices of such adoption may also be expensive atleast in germany since alot of brainrotted owners dont clean their dogs shit so normal owners also get taxed for that.
im about to look way too much into a simple joke charlie said this because what this game company did was charge ridiculous prices for a game, without thinking about how it would destroy the business mr krabs keeps his patties cheap because thats how he makes money, he wouldnt make them expensive because he knows that would ruin his business, thus, mr krabs wouldnt pull something like this he sold spongebobs soul for 62 cents, but that was a very different situation, still hilariously exaggerated greed, but it was in no way a business decision on mr krabs part
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I'm pretty sure that if the whole "buy edge of darkness you get all future DLCs for free" was in the actual marketing, this counts as breach of contract with the public
Yeah- They wont be releasing any DLCs hehe- Though they didnt need to include that statement- atleast say first DLC free- rest as normal or discounted... they would make more money as discounted priced wrongful marketing
I'm a lead dev for a small indie game studio that has a small live service game. This is the worst attempt at overblown monetization for a game expansion that I've seen this year. There is no game DLC or expansion that is worth 250$. I feel badly for the community manager here, they're going to be used as a scape goat. It's higher up management that have made this call and so the community manager can either defend it and keep their job or call it out as what it is and lose their job, they don't really have a choice or a say. To put it simply, your players are never stupid. If they like your game enough they'll buy into many things, but any promise you made to your players at any point you will be expected to keep. It takes 1 misstep, 1 wrong thing said, or 1 poorly thought out plan executed to completely and permanently destroy any level of trust your players had and cause them to leave the community without second chance. If you as a developer or staff member for the studio are having to sit there and make excuses for something, or try to place specific labels onto things to try to make your community separate it, the people you are trying to convince will catch on to what you're trying to do and they'll no longer trust your word. I know first hand that maintaining that trust and relationship with your community is never an easy task and requires a lot of sacrifice on your part that they will never see or understand and it will likely go forever unsaid and unacknowledged, but that's something that comes with the territory if you want a loyal customer base. The game studios that are highly acclaimed and have loyal supporters are in that position because they genuinely care about keeping their word and they demonstrate this by consistently delivering upon it.
@@p.m.s2603 Privacy. We're a much smaller community compared to EFT and our demographic is mainly young children-young teens who we place great emphasis on ensuring the safety of. I mention it only because it serves as a point of reference for my level of personal experience in game development, management of game development and community management which is the basis for everything that I was saying in the rest of my comment. I also believe it's not the appropriate place or time to advertise something.
the worst part is, this sets a precedent for other game companies. AAA games have gone up $60 to $70, so now that a DLC has gone for $250, ultimate editions of games are gonna probably be more expensive
EFT has always had a high price range, its not like they have been selling the game for 30 bucks and all of a sudden released this 250 dollar bundle. (I went to their site to confirm and saw that they even upped the base, lowest price to play the game to $50. When I first bought the game, it was $40...) They have always been greedy, I'm more surprised at the fact that they haven't gotten flak for it much sooner. Them not getting criticism is probably the reason they thought this shit would fly with the community.
@@deftomnivore215 i bought it for 60 i think, and my dad was iffy with that, but i didn’t think about it much. I don’t mind the price since it is a really good game, but $250 is outrageous
@@sporeham1674 genuinely, I only just moved to pc EOD didn’t exist when I bought it 2 months ago but I still paid $89 for standard and was enjoying it enough to spend another $80 for the highest version, plus bought slots for another $50 so with this, bloody $500 video game is ridiculous
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@@ghost942 I don't think he's being a dumbass. Mods are indeed Downloadable Content hence why he said DLC. It's just that nowadays "DLC" is used as a blanket term to official additional content.
@@ghost942the only thing that makes mods not downloadable content is the fact they aren't made by the original devs. bc mods are downloadable content, it's just DLC usually refers to downloadable content from the devs
@BubbleGum566 he was litterly insisting that mods are dlcs, and it is only a mod if it "modifies original game content" and "dlcs are any thing that adds alot to the game"
I love how the argument of it not being dlc is that the pve mode is a separate game. Yet they completely ignore the added stash size, the extra pockets, the increased skill levels, the add trader rep. All of which is dlc.
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We comparing one greedy company to another?😂scumniac wants to milk the third Spiderman game so hard they want to make it cost absurd amounts and be 2 parts
Best alternatives for tarkov : -Hunt Showdown -Vigor -Deep Rock Galactic (PvE) -Marauders -Dark and Darker Have fun , personally i can recommend : Vigor , Deep Rock Galactic and Hunt Showdown !!!
Not a 100 dollars 150 dollars. And almost all of us who got into tarkov, eventually ended up buying to support the game. And BSG have scammed us. Literally committing crimes. This shit is fucking wild.
My biggest complaint about this whole thing is that when I first bought the game their roadmap said they planned on putting a singleplayer/co-op campaign in the game from the start. Now they are taking that and trying to sell it as a new feature.
as someone who bought EOD maybe 4-5 year ago now, as someone who has played tarkov thru multiple gameplay altering changes and unplayable bugs, this is truly the nail in the coffin for BSG. their PR team cannot pull them out of this one.
The best part was them being caught on livestream editing the EoD store page information to try and fit their narrative. AND THEN in an interview deny editing the page at all.
@@otamatonefan8996look up onepeg his eft news segments covered it I believe. It’s definitely true tho, they forgot to change the web receipts for EoD, you could easily cross check it
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Every single person that would say, “$70 isn’t that bad, and it’s completely reasonable for a AAA game. I love the billion dollar company more than my fellow man” is at fault for this.
This. The game's still in beta. You'd assume any features and game modes added before 1.0 release would be considered part of the base game, not even DLC. By all current standards in game development, TECHNICALLY the base, $50 game owners should have access to it, as the game's still in development.
@@Scarlattomachiattoit's actually about 80%, minimum wage is still below 10$ in a lot of areas in the US. That's also not considering taxes. I think I make roughly 660$ a week after taxes at 20$ an hour, so it's nearly half of my paycheck at more than double minimum wage
@@mentalpopcorn2304 That's fair, I was going off of a 10$/hour payrate bc some states are higher than others and not thinking of taxes. Which is actually worse! Bc that 250$ price will also be taxed which fluctuates depending on states. Man, fuck this company.
It smacks of "structurally fiscal disconnect" when fans see entertainment management sees money and mgmt do not have the faintest idea how to connect the two
It's a complete betrayal of trust and an abhorrent display of greed. Unbelievable how they blatantly ignored their original promise to EOD buyers. Everything about this situation is shameful and disgraceful to the gaming industry.
I remember saying how shady they are 4-5 years ago and the community blasted me for it. They are doing everything they can to squeeze every penny out of the community before the game dies. They know the games dying and they can’t save it so they just wanna cash out before then.
@@brennancondon3357That’s how gamers are bro. They always ride the extreme no matter which side it is. They’re either sucking dev dick or burning them at the stake, pretending like they knew it was bad all along.
I'm fully convinced that these executives making these decisions are secretly being mind-controlled by rival companies because absolutely no one could have failed to see this going south.
@itsjustmaddisen while I don't agree. I think it's better watching it in real life such as we are. (I personally hate Tarkov so I've been waiting for this for so long)
The best is that Tarkov has free unofficial, community made "DLC" -> SPT-AKI, which let s you play Tarkov offline. I personally switched, because the cheater situation was not great on the live server.
As a member of the EFT community and a EOD owner, I felt slapped in the face by this greedy move. It’s outrageous and unacceptable, I will be filing my formal complain and I’m hoping a class action lawsuit is being worked on by the community.
The worst part about these greedy game companies is that countries with currency worth less than US money have to pay way more. Im in Australia and this would cost around $375 which is insane
man im 25 and remeber watching your videos on the the web browser games whered you make fun of them while playing mustve been 13 years ago just subbed thank you
Somewhere at some point a person had to unironically say "Yea a quarter of a thousand dollars is a reasonable amount to ask for a PVE Co-Op mode." and it was met with approval from the room. Talk about blinded by greed or completely disconnected from reality.
@@kingcannabis4208 but is that fair to the hoop manufacturer since you're not continuing to pay going forward? Think of their shareholders you monster.
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I feel like even "Psychotic" is too nice of a term for this level of greed. It's like Joker's "I'm crazy, not stupid" quote. I can imagine even some psychopaths that still organs and sell them back to people would be like "That's fucking dumb."
@@connerthewubbzler1062no, not psychotic. Take EA, Ubisoft, and Activision’s greedy tendencies and combine them into one. Obviously, NO ONE is dropping 250 on Tarkov.
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One thing that is not being talked about enough. BSG Updated their TOS in February 2024, which removed a clause that would allow for customers to pursue a refund in the event the game did not receive an official launch. This tells me that they were prepared that this might tank the game completely, and wanted an escape plan.
The writing has been on the wall for a while if you take a step back and look at it objectively. A couple RU-vidrs have done deep dives on their finances and they make terrible monetary decisions like arena and big extravagant events and I think they were really banking on arena being wildly popular and bring in a bunch of players and then they could slowly dribble in micro transactions ( which is something Nikita has said multiple times would never happen) their gamble failed miserably and this might be the final nail in the coffin if they don’t make it free for EoD players and drop that price by at least 100-150$. This might be their final cash grab before they abandon the project for good.
@@brettsteuart if they had a stronger hand in anti cheat and straight up banning people, arena could've been better, plus the PVE can EASILY bring back many people. But no, they didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they took a goddamn grenade launcher to it.
Just because they removed that from their TOS doesn't effect anyone who agreed to it when the verbiage was in the TOS when they purchased the game. If they attempt to enforce that change on legacy players then they are acting in bad faith and open themselves up for even more litigation. Either way, I think we just witnessed the fastest self implosion from a company ever.
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
@@silberlung3440 you do realize this is an MMO right? One with very little recurring purchases. So if this is how they initially monetize access to that PvE server that’s on them. They can’t make it free to everyone who already owns the game, they can’t afford that. Eventually at some point when Nikita realizes Russia 2028 will have to get renamed before he gets to work on it he’ll consolidate that into a single player expansion for tarkov. Probably a little bit after the full game is out and you can buy the exclusive single player edition for like 40 dollars. Financing a game like this is rough, BSG have a lot on their plate.
As someone who never played the game and never will, even I am just baffled and mad by the blatant disrespect of that pricetag. wth were they thinking honestly...
@@GmmBeast He went back on it too fast to know(SQUIDWARD called him out), which says something. Also Spongeboy me bob annoyed his new owner so much and so fast he gave him back almost immediately.
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You shouldn't be there anyway, nobody should be playing this game, the devs are in bed with the Russian military and paramilitary groups operating in Ukraine
Just yesterday I was reading an interview with one of the main EFT developer (Nikita Buyanov), and he said the game wouldn’t have micro transactions… Turns out they wanted to add macro transactions
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181 Let’s not get racial here. I just find it hilarious, considering the fact he is connected with some russian military groups and considers himself an honest and loyal person
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181True! Hell, the entire Russo-Ukraine war they've been lying. If you want a more comprehensive uh.. "list" of their lies I'd implore you to look up Habitual Linecrosser.
Frontier development did exactly the same thing for elite dangerous. The life time pass only includes the first 3 (ish) dlc (this was then turned to the core game a few years later). Before cutting the console community our of the game completely. Many of us were actually backers for the game when it was crowd funded originally.
The CEO at a studio I worked at for awhile would pull us into a meeting to pitch ideas at us - specifically my team, the Community-facing team - to see how we thought players would react to certain things. We'd tell him they'd absolutely hate an idea, it was bad for the game, etc. He'd just shrug and start assigning tasks to people. Zero doubt in my mind someone high up is single-handedly orchestrating most of this and doubling down because of his over-inflated ego.
honestly as fucked as it is i gaurantee you nikita is making all of these decisions, he hasnt known what the fuck they are trying to with tarkov for awhile now it feels like. he would be the higher up person thats doing this. they are just ruining their game to try to get money at this point
@@NickDaGamer1998 Just the one - he started it. But don't worry, thanks to a massively botched release, the studio now lives in infamy within certain circles. 😏
i think a huge part of gaming is the fact you used to be able to have an old laptop and play for free and it only cost you your time , internet bill and electricity bill but it was pretty much free , now a hobby you have wanted to do is more affordable
I agree. Gaming is meant to be for everyone. Rich, poor, old, young etc. And anyway, if you price your DLC at $250 the player base is going to be so small it will die within days…
I could unironically buy passes to a bowling alley for not only me but for 2 other people and we could go daily and play games and bowl every single day if we wanted to for the same price as it is for me to upgrade my eft from eod to the unhinged edition
We've got our monkey brains and the younger generations to thank for this. The mobile market validated the practice of dlc and microtransactions and now younger gamers are seeing it as completely normal to spend 100s to 1000s on skins, items and extra modes.
@@MachineGunJoepwns It goes further than that. That's the most expensive ship in the BASIC tab. After you spend 1000$, and then I think 10 000$, you get access to previously hidden tabs with more expensive ships and ship bundles - most expensive being at 40 000$. It's bonkers.
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They could literally add a t shirt for you're PMC and the community would gobble it up hello know guys who buy a fucking patch their character could wear. Then they pull this
@Mitozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz saddest part is this last wipe was one of the best updates ever. Fixed recoil, reworked armor, reworked balancing. Everything was getting to a good spot just for them to shit all over it
To add insult to injury, the PVE mode added to the unheard edition has queue times for a SINGLE PLAYER MODE that can be upwards of 5 minutes and you can "lose" connection mid raid and lose all your gear! Its truly pathetic behaviour and the game mode isn't even worth the absolute destruction of their companies reputation.
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
My husband has been playing escape from tarkov for as long as we've been together. He's poured almost 8 years into this game, got EOD before we were married, and genuinely poured more time into this game than any other games he's ever played. I've sat and watched him play for countless hours while he told me about different armors and weapons. It is a game that even me, who never played it, held dear because my husband loved it so much. Even after our son was born, he would wear him in a carrier and whisper to him about the game as he played. So many fun nights and sweet memories, and BSG is just shitting on its loyal players. We're having our second boy in 3 months, we can't drop $250 on video games anymore, and especially after my husband got EOD and expected this DLC for free. Nikita is just shitting down his fans throats and expecting them to take it.
Hey Charlie, I'm a long-time Tarkov player (over 8000) hours logged, and someone who built my entire PC rig back in 2020 when I could finally afford it purely for this game. I'm a longtime Tarkov player, am in several of their discords, and have in depth knowledge on not only the game, but the community surrounding it in all aspects. This is the only game I have reliably played outside of their other "DLC" EFT: Arena. If you were to put even more heat on this it would be so appreciated, and I know from several of the pillars of the community I'm a part of (over 15+ EFT exclusive discords) we'd love to hop in a call with you and go over the smaller things you may have missed to blow this up even more. Thanks Charlie. Sincerely, ThePerplexedRat
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You should email charlie instead because then it's guaranteed he'll at least see what you said even if he turns you down. He probably won't see this comment.
Did you know that: You can fund yourself and three friends the full version of the game Helldivers 2 with the DLC Super Citizen ($59.99 x4) AND STILL HAVE $10 in reserve in the same price you get one DLC for Escape From Tarkov ($250)
No. The eod edition is $150 and the dlc is another $100. The base game is like $60 bucks and has access to everything of eod except stash bonuses and rep. If you buy eod for $100 you are also getting arenas.
And the PVE is still dogshit because BSG didn't seperate the PVE servers from PVP. So technically it can happen that you have loading times of over 10 minutes .. for a fucking PVE game lul
What's really crazy is they announced they were taking EOD down for good, "so you better hurry up and grab it because this will be your last chance to get this edition". How many people ran out and bought EOD before it went down? I'm sure a LOT! Then they put this edition out afterwards and said nothing before taking down EOD about a newer edition coming right? Damn son
This is becoming a very common tactic in many places. There are bands that toured "for the last time" only to come back 4 years later. Just to squeeze every penny form you they can
