I get it that they would jump sideways on gravel at 120mph as if it was nothing. The car was firmly grounded as it landed thanks to their massive set of balls.
Group B: the motorsport where 50% of the total downforce created by the car is from it's aero mods, the rest is made by the weight of the driver's massive balls
I don’t think the videographers knew what kind of greatness they were filming at the time. Thankful for them capturing this for us and generations ahead to look back at and enjoy.
Tyler Edwards and thankfully a lot was shot on film so it can be scanned and released in HD in the future unlike 90s rallying where nearly all was shot on video and will never be HD.
Guys, Here is Our True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Ad de Jong the deadliest too.. most drivers would get tunnel vision syndrome cause of how fast the cars were.. (tunnel vision syndrome is where you lose your peripheral vision completely.)
@@dark8sounds This wrc stuff you have in today's world ISN'T RALLYING, Rallying disappeared along time ago because it was too dangerous, sadly too many spectators and as well as the drivers were getting killed,with 600+bhp and crazy fan's lining the roads most of the times restricting the drivers vision to only a matter of feet as their doing over 80-90+mph,then flat out into a hornet's nest of crazy spectators who then fan out at the last second, the drivers needed concentration levels of a brain surgeons, the stress levels were double of that of these wrc driver's, the car's weight was that of a milk float,they handled like shopping trolleys, today's wrc car's are full of technology that assists the drivers, they don't even need to take their hand's of the steering wheel to change gear, wrapped up in cotton wool both driver's+co and spectators, you could touch the car's passing you back then (if you was stupid enough), witnessed a man touch a S4 passing doing around 70-80mph then snapped his hand! He was laughing for a second or two then screamed like a 2 year old child as everyone pissed themselves laughing at his floppy hand,now that's RALLYING not this wrc stuff of today,wrc cars are in no way shape or form comparable to GROUP B cars,today's drivers couldn't cope with what GROUP B drivers had to cope with, if wrc is anything like GROUP B then it to would be banned! But it isn't because it's nothing like it,today's wrc's are like PS 4 or Xbox games driving with you're fingertips and changing gear as the do 100mph,everything is made too easy for today's wrc driver's+co,you even need a pair of binoculars to get close to any wrc car,TRUE RALLYING is dead, again " it was banned " Google it! Sorry for my little rant but I had to get it off my chest! Goodbye!!!
So what you said is that Group B should have not been banned because fuck people dying right ? Henri Toivonen and Sergio Crest didn't die proudly. They died in a fire burning alive. I just hope they were unconscious. Toivonen left a wife and 2 children. Now, i do understand that it was fantastic to watch and it was a great age for rally in terms of excitement but don't romanticize it like it was terrible that FIA banned it. They were right. People were dying. The limits were pushed beyond peoples capabilities. @@garyfletcher8150
@@HexYan not one of those Grp B drivers was forced to drive so just remember that.The cars were not made with safety in mind as much as today . Spectators should have been told to stand where safe or the stage will be cancelled BUT THIS DIDNT HAPPEN. The TT races have killed over 200 riders and every single year usually 2 riders are killed .Should that be banned too ? We as humans have our own minds and to reach as high as to be a Legend in motorsport you will take massive risks . Henri and Sergio died with honour doing something they loved and they knew the risks were as high as death.
Yes i agree. But the Group 5 silhouette cars of the 70s and early 80s was quiet cool too. Some of the cars shared the same roadversions as the group B cars.
EmcSqrd gives me shivers reading that. it painted one beauty of a scenario in my mind thats forsure. this must have been the golden days of those peoples' lives.
my dad told me about these races when he was younger when he and his brother worked as paramedics at local rallye races, and when they had a group b classics rally a couple of years ago close tocwhere I live he took me there, I get goosebumps just thinking about it! the sound is amazing and the cars are real life monsters and works of art! this is pure rallye racing!
That was me! Fire pit, a whole prosciutto on my shoulder and a 5 lt jug of green white wine everything homemade of course! WRC Portugal was my World Cup or Super Bowl
The group B category is my absolute favorite group in motorsport. I like how most of them are not ment to look pretty, they just happen to look fantastic in a rather bizarre way.
Guys, Here is Our True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Number 1..Lancia s4 ...a savage of a car.....Number 2 ..Audi S1......a sideways monster. There was a mint condition Lancia s4 on ebay a week ago....buy it now....£240.000!!!! Gulp
My dad experienced group b in Finland. He said they were insanely fast. He didn’t know what was group b. He just was driving down his grandfathers road then all of a sudden a lancia flies down the road head on. He didn’t know what just happened. I showed him other videos of group b and he wished he didn’t just drive off to his dads house.
I once knew a young woman that I took to a group B rally. Her grip almost broke my hand as a Lancia went by. She said "well THAT just happened!" She asked me to buy her new panties. It gives women a special moment. Beat THAT, Audi.
I can vividly remember Hannu Mickalla arriving out of the darkness at around 1am in his Audi Quattro in a bitterly cold Rhigos forest stage above Treherbert in the South Wales in the 1986 Lombard RAC Rally. Back in those days of the death throws of Group B Rallying the excitement and noise, brake discs red hot, huge turbo lag and backfiring of the exhaust as those Quattros sped by. Even though it's nearly thirty years ago, the winters were particularly cold, i think it was snowing or had recently snowed in the Rhigos area of the Valleys, and it only cost £4 to enter the stage. What have we got today, under powered almost production cars in drag, and being asked to pay £26 to enter a tightly controlled forest stage. Group B The days when rallying was exciting not like todays joke.
Richard Cooper Your right there, my mistake. I can remember standing on the corner by the second carpark near the Storrey Arms in the Brecon Beacons in Group Bs final 1985 year. I have photos of the Audis, Lancia Delta S4s, Peugeot 205 Turbos, and i think one or two Metro 6R4s, but i may be wrong on that account. The photographs unfortunately are a bit blurred due to the cars speed approaching me, and my rather basic camera at the time, but i can remember it as if it was only a few years ago. Rallying in the Uk has never been the same since.
Fcuking FANTASTIC!! This will never be equaled. I'm old enough to remember this time as a spectator on the RAC stages in the UK. Let me tell you, watching these things at night, in the cold and rain is something I will never forget. I actually followed Henri Toivonen in his Lancia, on the road, between stages, in 1986. Feels surreal now.
man that sounds brilliant. Must have been one heck of a time to be alive. I unfortunately haven't had the pleasure of seeing one of these in person just yet
The Lancia at 4:40 looks to be going SOO fast it's quite unbelievable. The amount of bravery and skill to tame those cars is just beyond my belief, those drivers have my deepest respect.
ill always maintain that the greatest rally drivers ever came from group b. only a select few people could ever handle such incredible machines without diffs, and upgraded suspensions of today's rally cars.
Dunno about that. A few modern drivers own historic rally cars and they drive them just as fast as the drivers of the day. Talent is talent. The era doesn't really make any difference.
@@woopimagpie Um... there are VERY few modern rally drivers that can drive group b cars as fast as the original drivers. I can only name 1 or 2. Also, these cars are usually upgraded with handbrakes, etc. Finally, modern drivers would fucking suck with the manual trans and turbo lag...
It wasn't just that...But Cars were just getting waaaay to fast and the roads weren't tailored for the speed they were going in, causing ALOT of drivers to develop tunnel vision.
Krsin909 the spectators weren't the issue, it was the crash into a crowd of people, 2 drivers dying and manufacturers pulling out after realizing how dangerious it was
This is my favorite Group B video. Period. I watch it most nights at bedtime putting my 6 yr old to sleep, who, alongside me, loves Rally and F1. He typically falls asleep towards the end to the sounds of the insane group b engines pushing so hard.
sure, i agree with you, but it's that one clip that stands out to me more so than the others. It's the lone car crying out into the night as it continues to race off into the distance. All alone. It's oddly somber yet beautiful
Well if you think about it, that’s basically a metaphor of life: you (the car) almost go crazy in a maze of problems and struggles (the turns), you think there’s someone helping you (the spectators) but in the end we are all alone in this. So we are just cars racing alone through a very hard stage with the risk of losing it all at any time, while our engines scream in pain. And this is what makes our greatness
azynkron Well everyone did that back then, so fuck them all... However they banned this and they allow something even crazier like the super sport bikes in isle of man tt going super crazy fast... I hate the piece of crap WRC cars from nowadays and most other rally cars and their sounds. They all sound the same crap. And the Subaru's and Lancers also got killed and I don't like much any of the new ones. ps: Imagine nowadays a car made from scratch just for WRC using carbon fiber and all technology from nowadays, it would remove all tarmac from the ground :).
Joe11Blue But they also have rubber and other materials that remove the vibrations too. They use carbon fiber on other racing cars, so they should work good.
it would've been evolved to big pile of corpses... :/ I love these cars, but maybe, just maybe we need to still think a little bit of human lives and safety and use a little bit of common sense first.. I am with you on that, This was the real rally! But...
RoisinT2 I thnk the big problem here is that this group of Rallying came out at the wrong time. It came out at a time when rallying events were too uncontrolled and allowed the crowd to stand dangerously close. I think instead of sacking this group B, they should have worked the events better and made it safer for the crowds. I dont see any other motor sport racing, where the crowd is close enough to actually touch the cars as they go by. So in the end, I dont blame the cars from being too fast, I blame the promoters of these events for failing to provide adequate safety for the spectators.
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Cheers boys, feels good to finally have a "new" video up not something from my old channel re-uploaded. I love the sound of the T16 E2 the way it crackles when they lift of the throttle.
Group B Enginers make flame spitting volcano powered machines, that are driven by godlevel drivers witch's sheer skill and determination wrestling these machines on roads that were never made for them made for the greatest combination for a epic class that sadly will never be seen in the wild again.
I know the point of this video is the sound, but I think it also demonstrates one of the main reasons modern rallying has become so clinical and error free (read boring). Two words, suspension travel. These cars actually react to the road surface. Modern cars seem to just glide over it in comparison. Maybe the FIA should have considered that rather than bigger wings if they wanted to make the 2017 cars more spectacular.
MTB53850 I agree modern rally cars go through the stages with so little effort now its so stale. I appreciate there going fast and all and the technology but 2017 proposed 380bhp and more areo is welocme but why not just give them 450bhp.
daft mell yea but these group b cars have 450hp in the slow ones and they seem to have plenty traction. I say there should be another open class homologation special rally series.
@@skout256 I was referring specifically to the Mark Surer crash: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gYUILo6MmkA.html but maybe all Group B cars were like that
@Bobis Vajine So Max Verstappen entering the 2015 Australian Grand Prix at 17, making him the youngest driver to qualify for an F1 grid in the sport's history, isn't impressive? Please, tell me more about your achievements in motorsports, hater. @Jetara A LOT of adolescents who get started in motorsport come from some sort of wealthy background; how do you that they can afford to field teams and buy cars and equipment before getting a sponsor? You're clueless mate. Stop commenting such idiocy.
U mean like chassis upgrades,motor/tranny,suspension,power adders,massage tha body for aero & a wing,cage,no interior,lexan windows...u mean change all that? Thats a race car...
That big winged 205 T16 is the best car I've ever seen. Never been a fan of french cars but I'm gonna buy a 205 and rally the shit our of it when I get old :)
Walter Rohl quien contesto a un periodista que le pregunto como hacia para no perder la concentracion en los tramos con la gente por la carretera: "Me limito a pensar que son arboles" JAJAJAJAJAJA MAESTRO!!!!
Nothing sounds like the audi it's like rolling thunder getting closer and closer until it's cracking right above you. Awesome days that like the music we will never see again, the 80 the greatest time in modern history and yet it was a tough time aswell.
That was real driving, raw power with none of the technological "advances", like electronical differentials, sequential gears, (paddle shifts!!!), etc. I was lucky to compete in in 4 Group B cars, Renault R5, Nissan 240, Celica and the Mazda RX7, and drive, (not in a race), the Opel Manta, and the Lancia Delta s4,, let me tell you guys, they kept you very "busy",(Heel and Toe, no anti-lag, some of them didn't have power steering...etc.And don't get me started on todays F1 !!, lol,
I might be 3yrs late ,but you sir (ARE.)100% correct, WRC are in my opinion NO comparison to group b,for me when group b was banned, nothing has replaced it,WRC cars can practically drive themselves, no need to pay for gym membership if you drove a group b car controlling all that power with just 2arms+2legs and a brain that struggled to keep up with what was going to happen next, none of the technology like they have in today's cars just raw power and crazy b*****D's playing chicken standing in front of an comming 1980's supper car and real men with balls the size of Mellon's OH! and one lady who must have them aswell to drive like she did, group b is now extinct, the ultimate days of rallying but it will never be replaced or forgotten even when we get old then suffer with Alzheimer's,so remember sir WRC is for boys, GROUP B was for men.the younger generation don't know what they have missed,
Actually, those cars were considered technological marvels of their day. It's only by modern standards they seem "primitive". I bet grandpa at the track in 1985 complained about all these newfangled turbos and wastegates and other nonsense. "Back when I was younger we didn't have this 'four wheel drive nonsense', none of these 'turbochargers'! WE had to learn how to make a car go fast with only 40hp and a 3-speed gearbox, only skinny tires with only 2wd! Anyone can drive these modern cars fast, with their four-wheel drive and their 600hp engines; it took a real driver to take a 2CV 100km in 45 minutes!"
@@kelharper7971 finally someone that isn't on the nostalgia train. I'd love group B legends to be back but it's nonsense to say today's cars are easy to drive.
