Mike and Jay discuss the latest film in the Cloverfield "franchise," The Cloverfield Project, as well as it's release strategy of being dumped direct to Netflix. SPOILERS AHOY!
I love how Mike only realized his mistake in "The Room" vs "Room" when he uttered the sentence "The Room is a great film". Like somehow saying that made his mouth burn and he realized something was wrong.
I really like the fact that people are coming to this channel and finding out there's hundreds of hours of material still to enjoy. I think I got here around episode 23 or something. Phantom Menace review probably what got me here, but I'm not a 100% sure anymore. It's been a long ass time and I realize these days that there will be a time where the (or one of the) guys are done and there won't be any new ones. That will be a sad day.,
Wait so, they open up a portal to another dimension in the hopes of siphoning its energy and monsters come out... this movie has the same plot of DOOM 2016
@@tverdislavrolensky3597 actually, in half life they didnt mean to open a portal, but breen being the dickhead that he is sabotaged the sample to open the door for a future combine invasion
Someday, a child being born within the last and next month is gonna make a movie about how we opened up a portal to solve the pandemic, and this will be the historic evidence that the idea was unoriginal 30 years prior.
Wow! This is the strategy Abrams and Company should have used when releasing The Last Jedi. They could have retooled this movie to tie it in with the Cloverfield universe and titled it The Cloverfield Jedi.
I don’t get how these movies are a good proposition for Netflix... I feel like they’ve basically reached peak saturation, spending $150 million for a Scorsese movie might get a few more people... but not as much ROI as a theatric release, probably.
Well yeah, no shit. How does Netflix intend to rake back the hundreds of millions of dollars they’ve spent on big budget movies? You’d have to consider how much content they can lease the rights to for the money they’re putting into this type of original content... If they have 500,000 people searching for let’s say Jurassic World before the new one comes out... Isn’t it a better deal to just pay Paramount or whoever the licensing fee and hit those customers with a notification that the movie is now available?
Nightstalker314 I'm sure there will be some lose, ridiculously hard to find, convoluted, inverted pause and play Slowly while watching it upside down in a mirror on Tuesdays @ exactly 4:49am thing that will related to Cloverfield
What does Capitalism have to do with anything? People go watch his moves that's why he is still around. He makes money because general population likes his movies not because he makes money.
Because they don't have the ability to create anyhing of substance. It's the whole "if you don't try you can't fail". Like that kid in elementary school who didn't want to try in class out of fear of ridicule. They should stick to shitting on movies, I like when they do that. Also yes, I am aware I'm a hypocrite ;*
There's really nothing wrong with the release strategy. If it had been a really good movie, we'd all be talking about how the marketing decision was brilliant and how this is the future of film.
the problem is that netflix didn't commission a film that would make a good case for ending theaters... they took some piece of shit off the shelf and tried to trick people... Like if Netflix financed a back to the future remake that would be a move to end theaters... if they bought a student film that vaguely deals with time travel with a cameo from christopher llyod they're fucking red box...
IdkMaybeShawn What marketing was there? The only 'marketing' was showing a single trailer in the Super Bowl and saying it was released on Netflix. When I saw that, all I thought was: this movie is going to be so bad, they can't muster a campaign to hype it.
@@steffanofumo That scene helps to make up for all the overzealous censorship in F13 VII .... I wanted that chick pummelled into the tree over and over, gosh darnit!!
jeremyshaw1 well they need to show what is good so they know what they want... but then again there are good movies with the same theme and nobody cares. so yeah... that sucks
Arlo Steiner i only ask for common sense, a thinking arm that somehow knows that the stupid ball is inside the crazy dude makes no sense at all and they provide no explanation in any shape or form... is fine to be a little magic, thats where sci-fi gold is!
Hell, you can go further than that and say precisely because of quantum physics, quantum field theory, all the work and understanding we as a species have accumulated by now, we know everything there is about the physics of everyday life, physicists have been smashing particles together obsessively over a hundred years or so, discovering all the common ones and the ones that can interact on any meaningful level with stuff that matters on earth, what's left is either the so weak that in doesn't interact with matter or the stuff that can't exist for longer than a zeptosecond before decaying into more stable mundane particles. Shit like Dark matter or Dark energy? That has no bearing on our brain activity or something that impacts our daily life, because otherwise we could have already created and tested it, the reason why it remains elusive is precisely because of how little to no direct interaction it has with matter. Particles smashing together creating meaningful black holes or dimensions? Would have been done ages ago if true (also silly if you know a bit about physics). If a lazy hack writer needs some black box explanation in their space fantasy for some exotic powersource or whatnot, then resorting to chemistry is safer, simply because of the nature of chemistry allowing potentially infinite different combinations of our regular old atoms and molecules, that can have novel properties to them. Though even there, as you say, it doesn't suddenly mean that anything goes.
Maybe they'll do a George Lucas move and release an "Enhanced" version of the original Cloverfield with added scenes of protesters of military buildups, and maybe a few CGI creatures farting too!
Remember when JJ Abrams had a bunch of websites created that were supposed to be related to and drop hints about the origin of the Cloverfield monster? Its cool to see that was all pointless. "Mystery boxes."
I've noticed in the past year or so it's gotten BAAAD. Like alot of the direct to's are beyond awful, as are alot of the shows that got cancelled from TV that make it on. Caveat - I'm from Canada, and our Netflix sucks compared to yours.
Open House is legitimately the worst horror movie ever. It's not hilariosuly bad like The PeePee PooPoo Man, just the cinematic equivalent of blue balls.
Event Horizon is the prequel to The Matrix and its about Morpheus's crew and how they freed themselves from the matrix by entering the "hell" dimension, which is actually a glitch that once u enter wakes u up
scockery i came up with the theory couple years ago but i had it down, ill have to rewatch and get back to u guys. Basically people were going insane from crossing over into The Real and coming back, and agent Smith took control of sam neils character when he went in
Above everything else Event Horizont is the reason the Doom movie sucked so much ass. Because when they made Doom some exec went "What do you mean Mars gets invaded from hell via jumpgates? We just did a movie with a warp drive that leads to hell, we can't do that again - change that to genetic experiments at once! And no, I don't care about who did it first!"
Warhammer did it, Stephen King did it in a short story too - but I really believe the Doom plot for the movie was changed to genetix nonsense, because otherwise it would have been "too similar" to EH for someone.
Bright seemed to have done well off the back of Will Smith's sheer likability. Many of the things that were forgiven (the bad writing, the excess cheese, the Gary Stu ending, the lack of payoffs to things set up early on, etc.) become unforgivable if you take Will Smith out of the equation.
It would go something like; 'hey there's Morpheus! I applauded when I saw him, coz I reckernized him from another film.' Shot of Brit chick splattering all over the place. The End.
I think there are like 6 people in the world that like Event Horizon (I'm one of them). It's not perfect but I think it's pretty legit sci-fi horror. It's also amusing to pretend that it's a 40K prequel.
Haunter! They have had some good shit thought like Strangers Things and Bojack Horseman which is the best animated show I've ever seen also Matt Groening the guy who made the Simpson and Futurama has a new show coming out on Netflix that looks great
@@JesuSoup Ehh, I watched _Disenchantment_ .... it's mediocre at best and unfunny at its worst. Problem is, Matt Groening is no longer the young guy sticking it to popular culture .... .... nowadays, he is popular culture. Bojack Horseman, on the other hand, is fantastic. The perfect way to decomstruct all the "I wanna be famous" crap that reality TV and Social Media have kept alight for over ten years, now.
I'm with Jay in that I loved the idea of Cloverfield being loosely related anthology films, which is why I hated how you can *see* the seams of where the Cloverfield stuff was stapled on. In 10 Cloverfield Lane, the brand is what kept me in the audience wondering if John Goodman was crazy or telling the truth. So when Winstead gets out of the bunker and you see that alien ship in the background I had the same reaction as her. It used the brand but was still it's own movie. This was definitely not that.
I will point out that Bright has a divergent critic to viewer score. 27% to 86%. Which makes sense for a genre movie, only certain people will like it at all. Cloverfield seems to be more straight bad with a 16% TO 51%.
i honestly dont see where a lot of the negativity towards Bright is coming from, like i understand some of the criticisms of the film and i agree with some of them i dont think its a great film it obviously has some problems but for the amount that people are shitting on it seems largely undeserved.
Cloverfield Paradox is like fun-bad but Bright is just bad-bad, Bright tries to do some weird like "what if racism was real BUT AGAINST FANTASY CREATURES INSTEAD" weird like... idk. It really seems like such a galaxy brain movie, in the ironic sense, that it's trying to be sophisticated but just comes out looking like a fucking lobotomized tree trunk
Cloverfield 1: Found Footage Cloverfield 2: Thriller Cloverfield 3: Sci-Fi Horror So Cloverfield 4 should be a Buddy Comedy Romance Film if J.J. Abrahams milks the Cloverfield Cow dry?
Everybody's commenting so fast in a bid to come up with a truly insightful, witty, but also somewhat polarizing comment in hopes of achieving their brief moment of internet fame that no one will notice that I'm gay.
Huh, that'd explain why I never even knew this movie existed. I'm a filthy filthy foreigner so we don't have the superbowl to watch the Ad Marathon for.
The only thing that is great that is associated with his name(by producer credit) is person of interest. His other shows have a spot in tv pop culture like Lost, alias etc but are ultimately disappointing and dated. Sort of like Joss Whedon
Gugu's husband was actually dead in the original version of the film. They brought them back in for reshoots so that they could shoehorn in the Cloverfield monster at the end.
So now that Jay just casually disses Bright, does that mean that after sexual assault allegations their relationship to Max Landis is now officially broken beyond repair and they will never watch the new Neil Breen film on Best of the Worst Spotlight?
Jesus, somehow I hadn't heard about this. Max Landis too? I remember someone on youtube a few months ago making the joke that with all the sexual harassment/assault allegations coming forward, in a year Hollywood would be reduced to just Kirk Cameron and Scott Baio... then last month Scott Baio got accused. So, who wants to start taking bets on what fucked up shit Kirk Cameron gets accused of? I'm betting he groped the crocoduck.
Here are all the different universe we've seen in the Cloverfield universe. 1. The original Cloverfield universe, not shown in this film. Earth1 2. 10 Cloverfield Lane, not shown in this film. Earth2 3. Cloverfield space station, this film's starting universe. Earth3 4. Cloverfield space station, the other universe shown in this film. Earth4 Maybe the WW2 Cloverfield film takes place on an "Earth5"? Who knows. The final shot of the film, which takes place in the starting universe shown in the film, is not the same universe as the original Cloverfield film. The satellite dropping to earth in the end/past footage in Cloverfield (1) is not the capsule dropping to earth from this. I know that's all potential confusing and not too important but I've heard a lot of dumb comments online about what actually happens in the film. I think part of the confusion is that we see a Cloverfield monster (similar to that of the first film's) in this film's universe which is like 300 or 400 m tall, which is ridiculous.
I thought there was a montage from the original film in the beginning credits? Thats what made it confusing for me. I didn't even realize this one took place in 2028.
For the record, the capsule landing wouldn't have looked like what you saw in the first movie. Those things deploy parachutes and land softly on the water; they don't smash into the ocean.
You broke it down perfectly, and it makes NO sense. Any promise this franchise had is gone in my eyes. And that monster at the end would be SO huge as to be laughable. You'll never see it again. Cloverfield 4 is supposed to be set in the 1940's with Nazis. Fuck right off with all of this.
Actually, as this movie takes place in the future, and they said the "cloverfield paradox" could affect the past, my belief is that this movie takes place in the same universe as the original Cloverfield, but in the future. The parallel universe they go to is the universe from 10 Cloverfield Lane (since it seemed more like an alien invasion). What I'm thinking is that the "cloverfield paradox" caused the Cloverfield monster to appear, hibernating, in the water, when it was awoken by the satellite from the first film. And the reason that this monster is so huge is because it's a bigger, more mature version of the first monster. At any rate, that doesn't explain what happened in the two decades since the original film (since this one is set in the late 2020's, I believe). And it's all too ambiguous to have any sort of firm view on what all is happening, so anyone's guess is as good as another, probably.
I'm listening to this as a podcast, out of nowhere mike says "the room is a great movie" and I had to do a double take to see if he was joking around before they continued.
The point of Netflix seems to be "if you like X, you might also like Y" You probably won't find X on Netflix, but there is some kind of other thing that checks some of the boxes that would categorize X. For example, if you like Ghost in the Shell animes, Blade Runner and The Matrix, you might like Altered Carbon. That said, there is a good variety of positive surprises in foreign films, although Netflix doesn't make it easy to figure out what the language is for foreign films.
Can we all agree cloverfield and 10 cloverfield lane worked far better as standalone films that kept some things a mystery? As far as new Netflix exclusives go, just stick to devilman crybaby or something else that’s good.
Bocken that’s fine. Sometimes you like stuff sometimes you don’t. I’m fine with someone liking something I didn’t, as long as the person is respectful, then I’m respectful.
WiiFan20XX I wouldn’t say a complete tonal shift, but it did change genre heavily. Maybe this ending sounds terrible coming from me, but why not have her escape from from the house and see something crazy or whatever, but we’re not shown it, we don’t get a crazy space alien air craft, it’s left as a mystery and ends on a very eerie note, with all that we see is a horrified expression, and that’s it.
I couldn't stop wondering when watching this movie how a planet is supposed to run out of energy. I mean, the planet looked pretty much the same as it is now and the sun was still there so... What are you running out of? Just put up some more solar panels or wind turbines or nuclear power plants or dams or anything. There's so much potential energy all around you're not going to run out of it anytime soon. And if you're running out of energy don't fucking waste it by driving around the city or let giant window teve screens run while you're moping and not even watching it anyway. Have these people ever heard of bicycles and photos? Geez!
Oil? Oh, is that why they stood in line for gas in the beginning of the movie? They think oil is our only form of energy. Now it makes sense... in a stupid way. Thank you. Now I at least know what the writers were going for even though it's completely idiotic.
Patrick Towey It's the future. They should have SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS! Put those solar panels on the road and drive all over them. Energy crisis solved!
Pandorum is a great space horror movie. Maybe not as focused as something like Alien, but it mixes so many genres and actually pulls it off to some degree.
"Sunshine" is also a very similar concept. As for space horror, the woman appearing inside the wall, Philadelphia Experiment style, and O'Dowd's comedy arm, were both effective bits of body horror I thought.
