Best of the Worst: Supergirl, Captain America (1990), and Roger Corman's Fantastic Four 

It's hilarious how all four of the Fantastic Four films were made for the same reason of holding onto the rights.

Capt America: mr stark I'm not feeling so good... Tony Stark: *takes off suit* Capt America: *steals suit and runs off*

I honestly thought one of the most brilliant ideas of the first Marvel Captain America was that USO tour that gave him a reason to be wearing that outfit.

Fucking hell when Captain stole that car, i almost died due to laughter

Wow, that Dr Doom costume is the best out of any of the movies.

Wikipedia has more on the Fantastic Four film. They didn't intend to release it when they started, but by the end they realized that they actually had something worth releasing. Marvel, though, got worried that the film would kill the franchise, and offered to pay a few million dollars to buy the film so that they could destroy all copies of it.

We live in a world where Roger Corman didn't make the worst Fantastic 4 film.

Fun fact: That "hunk" that Supergirl and Evil Lady were fighting over was played by the corporate bearded guy in Die Hard that tells Hans who John is and gets shot in the face.

"And Ben- Ben, you've always been made of rocks!"

Cost of production in US dollers Fantastic four = $1 million Captain America = $10 million Super Girl = $ 35 Million

The lead actress for Supergirl being so sincere definitely made the movie more watchable.

Finale of Captain America: Civil War next year: Cap steals Tony's car.

Just gotta give Dr. Doom his credit. Watch the scene again, he does in fact draw the 12 with stage direction. 36:43

I'm from Slovenia and scenes from Captain America look awfully familiar (where Cap. America steal car and ''Northern Canada'' part). And then I check IMDb and, bingo, filming locations: Yugoslavia-Slovenia! LOL!

"Supergirl' did for Feminism what 'Birth of a Nation' did for equal rights." -Rich Evans

Rich can have an issue saying "folding table' but can say omegahedron with no problem.

Jack's head is brighter than my future.

the only Dr Doom that ever looked like Doom in a fantastic 4 movie

"This movie did for feminism what Birth of a Nation did for equal rights," is the funniest comment I've ever heard. Wow....

The cgi figure of the Human Torch being hit by the ray beam is practically frame by frame rotoscoped from one of the Fleischer Superman animated shorts entitled "The Mad Scientist." Even the camera angle is exactly the same. It's at about the 7:50 mark in the version I found on RU-vid. Just FYI in case you want to look it up and compare.

The Corman Fantastic Four is still far & away better than the 2000s ones. I can watch Corman's F4 without wanting to hang myself. And he didn't fucking ruin Doctor Doom.

I love how 30 years from now this same kind of discussion will be about Batman vs Superman, Suicide Squad, and still the Fant4stic

Schlock: Noun 1: Cheap or inferior goods or material; trash 2: The rocket scene in Captain America

The Dr Doom costume in this movie is still the best live action costume.

Rich zones out just as Jack reads about a guy who can engulf his body in flames. How is Rich supposed to be cool about Fire safety if he doesn't pay attention to a true master?

We needed Mike here to tell us that the actor playing Human Torch was in the episode of Voyager where Janeway took those 3 misfit crew members on an away mission (The Good Shepherd?).

Ironic : Rich is the one that reads OMEGAHEDRON correctly...

Upon finishing this episode, I was so intrigued I went out and immediately found the Fantastic Four film online. And wow. I'm amazed by it honestly. One of the most incredible parts was that they managed such capable sound mixing and set design on such a low budget. You can hear extras talking in the background, people getting in and out of elevators, the music is genuinely well done and matches the tone of the scene perfectly. Dr. Reid's lab actually looks like a crazy science lab. I was immediately invested in the characters. I am not really a superhero movie fan. In fact, I am someone who generally HATES superhero movies. I hate the overedited, high gloss of modern superhero movies. They actually hurt my eyes, but as a kid I actually WAS interested in that 2000s Fantastic Four movie. This movie is honestly BETTER. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Well paced, competently acted (many times truly WELL acted), decent cinematography, good lighting and shots, interesting characters and plot. Nothing not to like. In the 2000s FF, Johnny was such a flat character. In this movie, I know they criticize Johnny's acting ability but one scene really did a great job painting who Johnny was. They just discover they have powers, Johnny opens his hands and is overwhelmed by the power and his capacity for evil (you see the fire transform in his hands, foreboding laughter and music), then quickly closes his hands and says, "God help us." That is a GOOD line. And great characterization. We learn immediately Johnny is the one we've gotta keep our eye on. Truly an amazing scene for a movie that wasn't even supposed to be released.

“When you’re a sentient rock, it’s hard to find work in LA right now.” - just an incredible line and intro to a great joke.

Captain America only super power is GTA

How crazy is it that the Roger Corman _Fantastic Four_ is actually a better movie than any of the _Fantastic Four_ movies that have been made since?

Stanley Kubrick's daughter was art director on Supergirl. I don't know if this is mentioned in the video, but its interesting enough for the that to not matter.

There should be a Rich Evans action figure; three of them actually. One in his "Space Cop" fatigues, one in his regular TV watching clothes and one more in the "Dick the Birthday Boy" T-shirt.

Nine years late to the party, but I was so glad to find that they liked the Fantastic Four movie. I remember watching it, knowing of its reputation, and thinking: this is actually pretty entertaining and quite creatively done. Totally agree with them.

Here's the story of Roger Corman's Fantastic Four. The movie was made to be released. In 1993 on a trip to Puerto Rico, Avi Arad (Marvel executive) heard about the excitement for the movie, and this being his first time hearing about it feared that the low budget nature of the film would damage the brand. He proceeded to buy the film for a few million in cash and ordered that all prints be destroyed without ever actually watching it. Basically, Marvel fucked up. And thankfully they managed to fuck up at fucking up and a copy survived.

Why didn't Captain America need anybody to wake him up and break him out of that ice block? Because he was awake the whole time of course. He was just... chilling.

"Get outta the road, rock monster!" made me laugh for a solid 5 minutes. Literally had to stop the video.

Say what you want about Corman's Fantastic Four, it's the only version of the Reed / Sue relationship that makes any kind of sense. Reed was the "cute college student" that a 14-year-old Sue fantasized about someday marrying because he just happened to live in the Storm family's spare room. They aren't together because they're really suited to each other, but because Sue grew up playing house with him (at least in her head). Then they just hooked up when they were older. Reed is genuinely more interested in science than Sue, and Sue is genuinely okay with that. Their courtship has literally never been done better in any other format, including the comics.

Is so amazing comming here years later and reading all those endless "Cap will defeat Thanos by pretending to be sick and then stealing his glove". Like walking onto a museum.

I really love how much Jay hates Supergirl, and I equally really love how much Jack defends Supergirl

Saddest thing about this is that the FF cast didn't know the film wouldn't be released. I actually found an interview inside of a 90's comic I found talking with a few members of the cast saying how excited they were about the film and all the work that went into it.

RIP Albert, you legend - safe journeys

Fun Fact: The trailer to the Roger Corman Fantastic Four film was on the vhs of the first Carnosaur movie.

Hollywood as a whole needs a strong dose of smaller budgets. Get back to the days of the 1980s-1990s, where people had to be creative and make a movie for $20 million. Not $200 million.

I just dropped in from the Albert Pyun double feature episode. The prosthetics they are wearing to look young in this video are top notch.

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3:15 I love that Jack refers to it as the Jessica Alba movie.

Awww...I grew up on Supergirl. I really liked it as a kid. Now, I am single.

Can't believe Jay knew that Albert Pyun would also be dead by the Redlettermedia curse 8 years ago.

Genuinely, that scene where Mr. Fantastic tries to explain the Fantastic 4's super powers based on their personalities... that actor (Alex Hyde-White, yes I did Google his credit) sells his role as Reed Richards better than any live-action actor to date, and that's... well okay, he doesn't have that much competition, but he's genuinely _fantastic_ (no pun intended) in that moment, with a bit more budget, and just the tiniest bit of confidence, there's no reason that couldn't have been a really good Fantastic Four film.

If Mike was in this episode there would have been a ten minute tangent about Captain Jellico having a small role in the Captain America movie. Also probably ghosts.

5:28 Love how slowly Jack cracks up to this incredible acting performance. His brain fought hard to ignore that what he had witnessed was real, but in the end had to surrender.

DID BIZARRO MESS WITH THIS REALITY BECAUSE I JUST HEARD RICH EVANS CORRECT JACK ON PRONOUNCIATION

I'm calling it now *SPOILER ALERT* Avengers 2 is going to end with Captain America feigning illness in order to steal Ultrons car!

I can't believe that after 3 rewatches of this episode, I just now noticed that Jay synced the transition music at 30:34 with Jack's laugh.

The way Jack’s laugh syncs up with the transition music at 30:34 is just magical

Jack wearing that mask looks like the bad guy from Metal Gear Solid 5.

I always wondered what kind of movie Corman could have made if he'd been given 100 million dollars instead of 1 million. I bet it would have been better than every other F4 movie released thus far.

I still cant belive they got Moby to starr in this episode ! Would love some moore celebrity cameos.

why was the shirtless guy painting the tree??

Roger Corman's Fantastic 4 - Budget of $1 million, actually entertaining and compellingly acted, for all its B-movie-ness. 2015 Fantastic 4 - Budget of $120 million, a garbled, dull mess of gritty nonsensicality and awful pacing. In the Razzies it was nominated Worst Picture, Director, Screenplay, Prequel/Remake/Rip-Off/Sequel and Worst Combo. How?! How is this possible?! The Roger Corman wasn't even supposed to be seen! How?!

15:24 "They get distracted" is pretty much the perfect one-sentence summary of Supergirl.

Sometimes I wake up and I hear in my brain "Ben! You've always been made of rocks!".

Now I want "Winter Soldier" to include a scene where Steve is riding in a car with someone and pretends to be sick so he can steal the car and leave them behind.

18:03 _"She's flying? She needs to fly by some PONIES! I know girls LOVE ponies!"_ lol

The scene at 29:57 is actually filmed in Dubrovnik, a castle called lovrijenac. That exact place is a part of the red keep in Game of Thrones!

19:34 Let's take a moment to appreciate how the light glints off of Jack's head...

I remember the Captain America movie being on HBO in the 90's. I watched it so many times, and thought it was a great movie, but I was nine at the time.

*Sue showing off the costumes for the first time* Sue: “So what do you think?” Rich: “Try again.” I actually almost spit out my drink 🤣

I cant get over that twinkle of light above Jack's head, it's like hes got a Christmas ornament up there

If you notice, the scene at 39:23 where The Human Torch is getting smacked around by the laser, is a reference to a similar scene from the first theatrical Superman cartoon from 1941 where the same thing happens to him.

Dr. Doom and The Thing look pretty good, honestly. I'm a sucker for practical effects and prosthetics.

he didn't draw the 12 for himself....

Fun fact: Parts of Captain America were also shot in Dubrovnik, Croatia. The same place they shot Canto Bight exteriors in The Last Jedi (and Kings Landing for GOT).

So the German company that owned the rights to "Fantastic Four" in 1994 was Constantin Film. Constantin also produced the 2005 version and the Silver Surfer sequel -- Fox merely coproduced it and handled distribution. Constantin has held the rights to the property for over 20 years now, I think even they know it's kind of a dead end and the characters just don't work with the modern zeitgeist, they just produce the bare minimum number of pictures in order to keep the rights from reverting to Marvel-Disney-LucasCo. Constantin film is a relatively large German production company that produces a lot of domestic (to Germany) content and occasionally makes some larger international co-pros: the "Three Musketeers" film a couple years ago was one of theirs, as was "Downfall," "The Need for Speed," and a lot of Paul W.S. Anderson's films, like the "Resident Evil" franchise and the upcoming "Pompeii."

Supergirl's screenplay was by the same guy that did The Muppet Show (TV), The Dark Crystal, and Masters of the Universe (David Odell).

I saw Roger Corman's Fantastic Four thanks to file sharing almost 20 years ago and I've contended ever since that it's the best Fantastic Four movie.

The most amazing part of this whole thing is that they found a situation in which a human being could justifiably say the words "Fantastic 4 was the best movie" with a straight face

30:33 Jack's laughter synchronizing with the transition theme is the most beautiful thing ever

40:09 Sounds like an adult Morty Smith.

Supergirl: The Bechdel Test

Did you guys know that this version of The Fantastic Four is being premiered in New Orleans at the Broad Theater, on November 2nd (a Saturday). It'll be first-come-first-served since there's rights issues with selling tickets, but it's being shown in a theater for the first time!

12:10 The hardest line ever drawn about bunny frolicking... Josh, I approve

Stop the video... I'm starting to feel nauseous. *Walks around and then steals channel Captain America style*

Highly unrealistic! Faye Dunaway was a hot red haired evil witch with incredible magic powers; she didn't need a spell to make someone fall in love with her! She had me at "evil"

I have to say, the Rich Evans joke comparing what Supergirl has done to Feminism as the equivalent to what Birth Of A Nation did for Civil Rights had me in tears 😂.

The fantastic four movie, crappy as it is, looks like it would be a decent campy TV show.

Roger Corman's Fantastic 4 might be my favorite superhero movie of all time.

Wow that forbidden Fantastic Four movie looks more fun than any of the movies that’ve come out since.

"Take over the world, then get laid." Life lesson right there

I'm sure Supergirl was made to appeal to little girls and they just thought little girls were motivated by romantic dreams and would relate more to this than Superman. I was 11 when it came out and never saw it but my friend was utterly obsessed with it. I was a big fan of the WonderWoman TV series as a kid, but the parts that intrigued me the most were her costume and her romantic interests. When I watched shows about women I was interested in the glamour, when I watched shows about men I was interested in heroism and action. I loved Superman, but my only interest in Lois Lane was her beauty and romantic relationship with Clark, her spunk didn't interest me. Maybe it was all just conditioning by the media I consumed, but it's just how it was and I don't really feel like I missed out on anything.

The "flood the town" remark killed me

OMG.... I had to pause the video at the Captain America scenes because I was laughing so hard I was having trouble breathing. Great video guys, I love this series.

Thanks guys, I haven't laughed so much in a while. I also, watched Supergirl a lot as a kid as it was recorded on the same VHS tape as Star Wars. It was always a fun game to record movies from TV and cut out the commercials to save space for two movies on one tape.

Jack's damn eyebrow (43:49) still gets to me.

To be "fair" to the writers of the Supergirl movie, the comics often were even worse in terms of pandering to what middle-aged men thought girls wanted. For example, Comet the Wonder Horse. "Girls like horses, right? Well, then Supergirl should have a super horse!" seems to be the entire line of thinking, and it got _weird._ Comet was a centaur cursed to become a full horse, but with superpowers...and he was in love with Supergirl. Supergirl can, of course fly, and has no need to ride even a super-powered horse, but she rides him anyway. So Supergirl is straddling a super-horse for no reason other than because she likes it, and said horse wants to bone her.

I loved Supergirl as a kid. I thought it was awesome! Having watched it recently I'm not sure that my opinion has changed that much. It's stoopid but still awesome!

Someone at Warner Bros. saw this version of Supergirl and said, "I can do it way worse than that." Coming soon to CBS.

Reed Richards was played by Alex Hyde-White, who was in Biggles: Adventures In Time, and Johnny Storm was played by Jay Underwood, who was The Boy Who Could Fly.

Holy hell...Is the laser/human torch bit plagerized from the old superman cartoon from he 50s?