Hearthstone: Rise of Shadows Card Review #3 

I have to agree with Penniless, the weakness of the card overwhelms its flexibility. Used on two different targets, it's an incredibly bad Frost Nova. Frost Nova is very niche, and even when it is played, it's only because it can hit the kind of full board which builds up against really slow decks. Also only in combo with Doomsayer. When Frostbolt doesn't see play, Frostbolt with 1 less damage is just as useless. And the two-turn freeze assumes your opponent has a single threatening minion. As combo decks have been deleted, the only assumption is that you can't deal with this minion now, but can in two turns. Arcane Intellect would be better in that case, but the situation is really niche anyway. In conclusion, all three forms are terrible. I don't think Ray of Frost is useless, but it has to be for a spell spamming combo.

I also think he's vastly underrating Vendetta, its not really deck-defining where you build your deck around it, rather it's more like corspetaker where you have it as a package in deck with an already established core and the pay off is insane.

It also has great synergy with Sorcerer's Apprentice as well, so there's a very realistic chance Ray of Frost fits into a Tempo Mage deck.

Ray of Frost, spell synergy card, you can either use it finish particular blizzarded minion or with spell synergy use as weak frostbolt that triggers synergies twice. Or freezing game winning minion for two turns. Or just cyclone it twice.

@@SeventhSolar I don't think anyone is arguing that the card is powerful enough to play on its own, but I don't think that matters. The point is that it surpasses the level of flexibility and synergy necessary to be included in a spell synergy deck. I believe that the way you're thinking about the card is very counterproductive. Comparing it to Frost Nova in particular seems purposeless to me. Frost Nova is a stall card that allows you to ignore board for a turn. Ray of Frost is a filler card used to facilitate synergies and round out your curve. You would never use Ray of Frost on its own unless you're absolutely desperate, so there's little point in analyzing its effects in a vacuum. I think your reference to Frost Bolt neatly demonstrates the folly of this approach. You simply cite the fact that it doesn't currently see play without putting any thought into why, or how that might change post-rotation. Frost Bolt doesn't see play right now because Odd Mage exists, not because it's weak. Once Baku rotates out it's likely to return as a staple of Tempo Mage, as it has been for most of the game's history. Lastly, the Arcane Intellect case. This comparison is lackluster because: -Arcane Intellect gives their big guy a turn to punch you in the face or kill your minions. -You can often play Ray of Frost and an appropriately costed minion on the same turn, while Arcane Intellect is a colossal tempo loss (particularly during early turns, when that matters most). -This example assumes you don't have the answer in hand, when sometimes you either lack the mana to cast it or can't fit it into the curve.

If a deck that runs immortal prelate becomes good (which I don't think it will anyways), people will just run silences

@@antarath517 if they do, there are ways to copy more(Such as Undataka, or the pally secret that summons a killed minion), and no deck is running more than 2 silences.

Shhh, don't tell them that... Big Priest players are not smart enough to figure this by themselves

@@Ejpon oh shit, let me erase that real quick

@@Bruh-el9js Well, you were right about Vargoth...

@@frost7934 yeah and I hate it

What lifelink? We are playing hearthstone, not magic the gathering!

That's what I thought too...I think Dual is a card the community has been asking for; so even if doesn't see a lot of play people will experiment with it.

Man I wanna try that deck now lol. Sounds fun.

@@hunterchewning6725 It is fun, it's doesn't sponsor the best win rate, but once it starts snowballing it goes out of control.

Makes sense.

crystal power only hits minions

The dream is Dimensional Ripper into Archmage Vargoth. That's some N'zoth level BS.

Honestly I loved tesspionage due to the massive clown fiesta that is Tess. I’m glad that we’re getting more burgle effect cards

Probably Not is Just a fact,when you have 30 good Cards you wont Play a balanced Card.

how?

damnit

@@santachrist750 chrome youtube notifications :o