Heating a Whole House using Herschel Infrared, Solar Power and Battery Storage

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A customer testimonial from Chris and Catherine Stonehewer-Newbold, who have used our XLS white and mirror panels to run their entire home on a zero-carbon tariff, combining them with solar power and battery storage. Chris and Catherine talk about how great it is to have finally found a compatible solution that makes their heating affordable when compared to air-source heat pumps, that is also discreet and comfortable, and likened it to sitting directly in sunlight.
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0:00 Introduction
0:08 What heating system did you have previously?
1:04 What other heating options did you look into?
3:53 How did you discover Herschel Infrared?
6:44 How easy was the installation?
7:48 Has your experience with Herschel Infrared been successful?
8:35 How does your heating system combine Herschel Infrared, solar panels and battery storage?

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@VerilogTutor 2 года назад

It would be interesting to know how their energy bill changed and what the total cost of ownership is.

@peteraustin4077 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly!

@gulag8735 Год назад

As with all these people; it's TOP SECRET. to put cost in context, a guy I know has just fitted PV panels on roof south of ireland. €12,450 supply and fit which included €2,450 of a government grant. Last week (Oct 2022) he generated 2kwh. So I fail to see how you'll pay back in 7 years

@Natashahoneypot Год назад

it is between £90 and £25 a month in comparison to £200 a month. But thats a combination of solar panel and inferred. They said it in another video,.

@DragonXDrei Год назад

@@gulag8735 after watching this I ended up going here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4BUUQLsFSmY.html the guy explains it pretty well, said his system on paper should be producing 4.5kwh, however on the best of days in the summer of 2021 the most he managed was 2.3kwh.

@gulag8735 Год назад

@@DragonXDrei there you have it. 2.3kwh is worth about 60 cent (euros) so I fail to see how, without fudging figures and depending on grants, that 60 cent can pay back €12,000 investment. Anyway, I'll watch the link you sent. Thanks

@mackay250 2 года назад

Why chose Herschel over the other much cheaper brands? Is there any difference?

@lynh7845 2 года назад

Are you at Fully Charged Live?

@bobbazley5376 2 года назад

Very interesting and something that I have been looking at over the last month or so, I live in the Scottish highlands and only have Oil as my source for my central heating and water tank (although that does have an electric element as well). While I like the idea of the Infrared panels I just worry about the cost during the winter when you need it the most. I have a solar array and a battery storage but in winter solar production is at its lowest and demand for heat is at its highest. I have seen another RU-vid video that went to show a house that had been fitted with infrared panels and they measured the winter months electric use over the months and for December it was over a 1000kWh of use which at the price of electricity going up is a lot of money per month just for heating. I am keen to understand what the real world operating costs for the panels would be for a 5 bedroom house as i have ? I understand that the costs of airsource and installing wet systems are just too much (£35k min). What are peoples before and after costs for their electric use when moving to infrared panels (Obviously it will have a cost increase for electric if you move from oil or gas boiler) and yes you can offset that cost with solar etc but would is a realistic percentage ? I fully intend to order a panel for my Study so i can experience the technology first hand and get some real world data on electric use.

@engineerabetterlife8301 2 года назад

I do not have any experience with infrared panels, however here are some points to think about. The most efficient use of your money is by reducing your annual heating demand. If you can do this you will minimise the required size of any heating system (Initial cost of buying and installing the system this is irrespective of the heating technology used) and the energy used by the heating system (Annual Gas and/or electricity bills etc). The typical methods to reduce annual heating demand include improving the insulation, installing double/triple glazing, reducing air infiltration, accepting a lower room temperature and wearing warmer clothes to remain comfortable. Have you researched multi split or ducted air to air source heat pumps? they are significantly cheaper than ASHP to install and still provide coefficient of performance figures far greater than the maximum efficiency of infrared panels. There is no perfect heating system, each type has its own pros and cons. Unfortunately it requires a lot of careful research over and above any sales pitch to ensure it matches your specific requirements and location.

@MadamVino Год назад

Hi, I'm very keen to hear about your decision as I'm in a similar boat. As you are currently tracking your solar array productivity, and what size battery do you have - will it be filled up during daylight hours during the Winter? If not, it might be worth looking at your electricity tariff options to see if you'd be able to top up your battery to max. overnight if you're able to access a lower cost of electricity off-peak, and then use that cheaper electricity during the day to provide heating? The thing I'm hoping will clinch Far IR is its ability to provide zones for the heating system - a lot of my house isn't used during the day so that can be kept at a lower temperature eg 14'C or so, and then program the thermostats in each zone to be at 20'C when you're likely to be wanting to be in those rooms. Good luck!

@ImprobableWizard 10 месяцев назад

we have modern split aircon for cooling (I know) which can also be used for heating. The main negative for heating I would say is the noise. Yes they are extremely low noise these days, but it is not nothing. Also unless you have a very insulated place the air warms nearest to the device and it is colder on the other side of the room.

@bobbazley5376 10 месяцев назад

Hi @@ImprobableWizard I recall posting about this a year ago and since then things moved on for me and I went for an Aircon solution for my whole house (2 external fans and 8 internal wall units) I have just this month had them installed and so far I am very happy with them. Agreed the initial ramping up to meet demand of the heat requirement is loud but it soon settles down to a whisper, as I can remotely start each unit I tend to do it prior to having to sit in room that needs heat. Winter is still to come but they are performing as expected.

@smck732 2 года назад

Do you supply in Scotland? I'm in glasgow and thinking of upgrading my storage heaters

@Herschel-Infrared 2 года назад

Hi, we do supply in Scotland. Please contact us via our website if we can advise further.

@Piccsqueak 2 года назад

I'm just becoming interested in infrared panels in considering replacing my gas boiler, so am glad to find a personal testimony in favour of your panels and system. One element not explained was who would assess / survey the property's thermal demands and size the installation accordingly. Would this be Herschel themselves or the electrician working from Herschel data sheets? Would this be possible (and at what separate cost?) before deciding to proceed with an installation?

@Herschel-Infrared 2 года назад

Hi, we have online calculators or you can contact one of our specialists on sales@herschel-infrared.com. We also have an extensive installer and reseller network who can also advise.

@stuartburns8657 2 года назад

@@Herschel-Infrared Did I miss them mention their solar panel capacity and the battery size? Sorry, they mentioned 4k panels and 18k battery? That Battery array huge. Assume they use Ocupus go to help top it up, other wise solar isn't keeping those topped up?

@svenssvensson9024 2 года назад

There energy bill will be higher than if you use a modern heat pump with COP 5.

@davidelks7684 Год назад

I have yet to see real world examples of systems delivering COP >3 so while in theory it is possible, in practice it is less likely.

@hometechUK 2 года назад

Does anyone actually have these? So an honest review? I've tried a cheap brand & the panels did absolutely nothing? Nice to know if these would actually be better?

@del4668 2 года назад

electricity remains one of the most expensive forms of warming up a house. I suppose it works for them but they mention new windows, insulation and a huge battery and solar setup £££££. a 400w panel will use 400w electricity. have 10 of them around your house and your looking at 4kwph or at todays prices is £1.20 per hour so your electricity bill would soon add up. Also what are you going to use for hot water? intelligent panels start from £319 for the smallest so it's not going to be cheap to fit a house out with them. would it be any cheaper to run and warm a small room than a traditional electric conventional heater 🤔

@GeoFry3 2 года назад

IR heaters are no more efficient than the portable resistance heaters you plug into the wall. The only advantage is you could add some automation so you could have hot spots in the room that you are located in and only turns on when you are there. Really if you can't afford your heat you need to start with insulation and then better windows before you start even talking about a heatpump or resistance/IR heaters.

@eweuflesu23 2 года назад

Infrared heaters ARE more “efficient” than resistance heaters in an important way. They can provide warmth to you (especially any exposed skin) directly, rather than heating the ambient air in the room where you are. So you will experience feeling warm at a lower ambient room temperature than a space heater that’s job is to warm all of the air in the room. It’s like being outdoors standing/sitting in direct sun on a chilly day. You feel the warmth of the sun even when the actual air temperature is below what feels comfortable in the shade. It’s the same principle as the outdoor radiant heaters on patios at restaurants or ski resorts, only indoors with no chilly breezes.

@GeoFry3 2 года назад

@@eweuflesu23 I know how they work. Studied that in school back in the day. It still at its heart is a resistance heater which is terribly inefficient at providing heat compared to a heat pump. They are an economical solution in some situations. They are just not the end all be all that people selling them are saying.

@eppbot 10 месяцев назад

Also if it hasn’t been mentioned, infrared heaters give help with th body’s vitamin D production, especially helpful in cloudy climes.

@GTOOtt 2 года назад

Strange how there's always one part missing from these kind of videos..............cost.

@SatumangoTheGreat Год назад

Cost depends on the house's size, level of insulation, etc. Based on that you can calculate the amount and size of panels needed. And different vendors have different prices. So it's not easy to translate that from one house to another. Having said that, I would like to see an app where you can fill in the number of rooms, their sizes, the type and level of insulation, the cost of your chosen panels, maybe even the current price of electricity in your area. It could then calculate per room how many panels you need , their wattage and a ballpark figure for the overall upfront and running cost (excuding installation, I guess.)

@nikolajhol 11 месяцев назад

Speaking from experience, you produce very little solar electricity four months a year - the four months you really need the heat!

@nikolajhol 11 месяцев назад

...so this combination does not make a lot of sense

@AN-ks2ep Год назад

18 kw battery? It probably cost more 18k with installation. For this money I can do two air to air systems. Infrared efficency 100 percent Air to air heat pump 300 percent

@RandomShart Год назад

Probably about £6k for 20kwh Pylontech storage, then another £5k for an inverter and solar panels and another £5k for infrared panels. Then fitting, so yes I'd assume well over £20k but then also it's doing a lot more than just heating a house. Personally I'd spend the cash on insulation and stick with gas for heating, plus the batteries without solar using a nighttime rate like octopus go.

@thomasreilly6362 Год назад

Certainly didn’t help that the Conservative party did away with the grant that were made available under the Labour government.. The solar industry in Britain had the rug pulled from underneath them losing an estimate 10,000 jobs