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Heavenly Mother Are You There? Mormons think so! Watch! 

Dave Bartosiewicz
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#heavenlymother, #energywork, #Mormonmoms, #Godamother
This is a very good video showing how Mormon women and authorities of their Church teach about their heavenly mother. Christians need to fully understand their beliefs so they don't get duped. Lord have mercy.

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@RatSplatigan
@RatSplatigan 2 года назад
My phone corrected he to she, therefore god is female. "A spiritual experience where I felt her presence." Mormonism is a religion built on prelest. I was raised Mormon, left at 18, then found Orthodoxy after years of hating God, Lord have mercy. ☦
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
Glory to God! ☦
@hodgepodge5901
@hodgepodge5901 2 года назад
I had a similar upbringing. I was baptized in the Orthodox Church over two years ago now. Praise be to God.
@tensionkc8679
@tensionkc8679 2 года назад
We should pray for those that are lost, and that they may know the true triune God. 🙏☦
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
Yah you might want to turn down the notch on your praying, because now instead of believing in mormonism I now believe we are all collectively God.
@SupremeSurfers
@SupremeSurfers 2 года назад
Wow, that just isn’t right. There is no heavenly mother. In the beginning there was God, the Bible never mentions heavenly mother. That is the biggest lie, I’m so glad your exposing this. God warns us to watch out for false prophets, I have no faith in Joseph Smith. God said have no god before me. This is just a way to turn people from God, so sad! Praise God and only God! God bless brother ✝️
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
Why don't you just Goole "Did God have a wife" and see what Biblical Archiologist are now saying.... oops looks like Mormons got it right again. Crap!
@scottgrey2877
@scottgrey2877 Год назад
Infinite number of gods but we have one father the son takes on that role
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
@@stevenhenderson9005 Or better yet, the Canaanites angered God by their ignorance and He purged them. So saying Mormonism is a restoration of the Canaanites means they don't worship God..
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 Год назад
@@LadyMaria Well Mormonism isn't a restoration of the canaanites but has been trying to be a restoration of early Christian teachings. Mormonism tries to create a better story that attempts to give answers where answers didn't exist. Joseph Smith was only in his early 20's when he was putting this new religion together and so his understanding of the Bible wasn't always accurate and most of the time he was borrowing from other works of religion that he really liked, such as Emanuel Swedenborg. Now there is evidence that Joseph Smith may have been taking psychedelics and I have a theory that I haven't been able to prove yet, but I am thinking that when Joseph Smith had his leg surgery at 10 years old, that his father may have been giving young Joseph psychedelics regularly for his pain. With a young developing brain this could cause permanent damage and delusional experiences and Hallucinations. Joseph's first child was born completely deformed and died shortly after birth and Joseph's youngest son suffered mental illness and had to be put in an insane asylum at the age of 30. These are signs that mental illness could run in the family and may have been induced through the use of psychedelics. The religion of Mormonism is dramatically changing as the people and church leaders continue to learn more about the real history. This new knowledge and understanding will lead to the elimination of the truth claims as the only true an living church, but before they can do that they need to influence members of the church to look at scripture as non-literal teachings and how we can take the stories and apply them into our own lives for spiritual and personal growth. I believe that is why they have implemented a new teaching manual called "Come follow me". The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does some great things in communities and have been helpful to a lot of people. However I also think it has caused a lot of damage through manipulation, deception, and lack of remorse for the damage caused.
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 Год назад
@@LadyMaria I personally think it is wrong to classify a religious group like Mormons as being Christian or not. Christianity I believe is an individual thing for example even though I am a mormon doesn't mean I buy into or accept the Mormon doctrine.
@stevecochran9078
@stevecochran9078 2 года назад
Watching and listening to those folks made my brain hurt.
@nicolelovesjesusgod7673
@nicolelovesjesusgod7673 2 года назад
I feel most of the women were almost “ out of it “
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
Mine too.
@trierchick
@trierchick 2 года назад
We have a mother in heaven. Christ gave his mother Mary as mother to the church while on the cross. She is not the wife of God. Mormons have it really twisted
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
How is this not basically the same thing. Pagans renamed their statues to Mary too.
@joelhaas765
@joelhaas765 2 года назад
This concept of "Heavenly Mother" goes back to the whole Mormon concept of God and why it conflicts with real/traditional Christianity and how the Mormon and Christian concepts of Grace differ greatly. In Christian theology, "God became man so that men might become gods (i.e. immortal)" to quote St. Athanasius. But the basic concept is that God is Uncreated and became man to bring men somewhat up to his own level in terms of being immortal. So we are dependent on his Grace, which is essentially a free gift that we can participate in or cooperate with (or that we are bound to if you are Reformed) to reach union with God and become resurrected, glorified beings (like Christ) in the life of the World to Come... In a certain spiritual sense, this is a great antidote to pride. After all, Satan rebelled because he essentially wanted to become God through his own merits and efforts... To paraphrase a talk by the Catholic bishop Fulton Sheen, in every other religion than Christianity, man strives entirely, or at least mainly, by his own efforts to reach God. In Christianity, God reaches down and brings man up his own level... If God is merely an exalted man who "pulled himself up by his own bootstraps" by following Mormon (Masonic?) "principles" then we must do the same to earn the Celestial Kingdom and be gods ourselves. Hence in Mormonism, the traditional Christian doctrine of Grace is completely turned on it's head. But in terms of Mary, she is "full of Grace!" If partaking in the Divine Life through the life of the Church, especially through Holy Communion (eating and drinking of Christ's Blood and Body) brings us closer to God, how much closer to God and full of his Energy would be someone who carried Him in her womb be? Even if we accept the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, Mary is ultimately dependent on God for his Grace... In traditional Christian teaching, She is a spiritual mother, not a goddess...
@pollydunn3191
@pollydunn3191 2 года назад
They forget to mention in these videos that the church teaches polygamy in the celestial kingdom. So which of the millions of Gods wives are they talking about. They are living in la la land.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
But yet many say that isn't true, or they don't believe that, or that the LDS Org. never taught that, etc. It's so confusing to me, an outsider.
@pollydunn3191
@pollydunn3191 2 года назад
@@LadyMaria the LDS church has watered down their beliefs over the years. I'm 69 and I read gospel doctrine and all the other books put out by the church when I was a young married woman because when I went through the temple for the first time I found what they did in there very strange. They never really talked about polygamy much but it was in their books that taught what Joseph Smith the founder believed and taught. The only comfort the church gave married women at the time was that if you were the first wife you would have to approve of any future wives even though Joseph Smith's wife never got to do that. He even tried to keep it a secret from her. When I really got to know that in the next life I would be living polygamy, being a goddess and having lots of babies to populate other planets It sounded like hell not heaven to me.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
@@pollydunn3191 My goodness. That was a lot to take in, I bet! So glad you're out now. May God bless you. ☦
@pollydunn3191
@pollydunn3191 2 года назад
@@LadyMaria It is great but my 3 adult kids their spouses and my 12 grandkids are all still very active. I was a very dedicated member raising them. I didn't leave until I was in my late 50s. My oldest granddaughter served a mission and my oldest grandson is now on a mission. Needless to say we keep our talk about religion very generic. They all love the church I think mainly because it is a friendly church and your neighbors are the members of your Ward. And like I said the church is very watered down now and they do talk about Jesus more. So our common ground is Jesus. They don't mind if I talk about Him or share Christian music with them because the church has finally opened up to the contemporary Christian music and also because the church has gotten involved with the Chosen (the series). They loved watching the Chosen. Also it's really not my place to judge. Only Christ has earned that right. I'm just called to Love.
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
The canonites actually worshiped YAWAH along side his multiple wives.
@geniepaf9364
@geniepaf9364 Год назад
What I'm just outraged and amazed🤔😲😯☹️
@ESPNOutofBounds
@ESPNOutofBounds 2 года назад
Most Holy Theotokos Save us
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Heavenly Mother, we are appalled to hear people talking about Heavenly Mother. Instead, I will pray to my Heavenly Mother. Just don't pray to Heavenly Mother! That would be wrong.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
An hour ago I was reconsidering visiting an Orthodox church. But come on, this is just basically Mary. I just can't. I'm always stopped by Mary and the saints and icons. Just can't.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
@@raidthefridge7837 I know what Mormons believe. Heavenly Mother is Heavenly Mother. Call her what you will. The pagans just renamed their goddesses Mary and continued worship when Christianity came. The pope even had a goddess statue at the Vatican.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Basically Mary
@alannahmay3823
@alannahmay3823 Год назад
Do Orthodox believe, like Catholic, that when Jesus was presenting his mother to John from the cross, that he was presenting her to all of us? After leaving Mormonism, I was thrilled to learn that Mary, as a perpetual virgin, is the mother of all of us who sincerely come to Jesus. I have not yet joined another church. I have been drawn towards Catholic and am reading the Church Fathers. I want to learn about Orthodox, too.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
Yes, we believe that too. The Orthodox Ethos is a great channel to watch to learn as well as Father Spyridon Bailey's channel, and Patristic Nectar..to get started.
@WoodlandPoetry
@WoodlandPoetry Год назад
When Mormons say heavenly mother, they are not referring to Mary. They are referring to a god who was once mortal and achieved godhood. I think you understood, but just in case you didn't I thought I would add it in. I wish you all the best on your travels towards the Catholic faith!
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
@@WoodlandPoetry The Orthodox Catholic Faith. 😊
@alannahmay3823
@alannahmay3823 Год назад
@@WoodlandPoetry I did already know what Mormons believe. But thank you for wishing me well. I would love to see all Christians become either Catholic or Orthodox, because together they are the Mother Church. Maybe some day they will overcome their schism.
@WoodlandPoetry
@WoodlandPoetry Год назад
@@alannahmay3823 I suspected you did, but I get so worried about these Mormons that I had to be sure. I hope your journey is a very happy one and that you find the peace and faith you are seeking. God bless!
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 2 года назад
1:43
@frontensemble077
@frontensemble077 2 года назад
I don’t know where it comes from. It is no where even in Mormon scripture. Where does this come from?
@DaveBartosiewicz
@DaveBartosiewicz 2 года назад
It's your faith. A core in your faith.
@frontensemble077
@frontensemble077 2 года назад
@@DaveBartosiewicz what are you trying to say?
@DaveBartosiewicz
@DaveBartosiewicz 2 года назад
Do you not believe that you have a heavenly mother?
@frontensemble077
@frontensemble077 2 года назад
@@DaveBartosiewicz no.
@DaveBartosiewicz
@DaveBartosiewicz 2 года назад
Well, than you haven't been taught this. It's been a doctrine and a belief since JS.
@kathrynross6778
@kathrynross6778 2 года назад
I'm so confused 😕 so God has a wife ?
@evang7252
@evang7252 2 года назад
No Dave is sharing how this is a false doctrine. There is only One God who is Father Son and Spirit. There are no other gods. Our Heavenly Mother is Mary the mother of Jesus because she is the holiest woman who ever lived and is in Heaven praying for us... this is very very diffrent from this mormon doctrine.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
No. There is no goddess mother.
@selinaogorman8380
@selinaogorman8380 2 года назад
When I was Mormon I never heard this but it makes sense god in Mormonism is a man so it makes sense there is a heavenly mother because all Mormons want to become gods and be exalted they all want to go through this process like there Heavenly Father god wasn’t always god according to Joseph smith Mormons need to be honest about this doctrine dont confuse or lie about this.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
god mom has a physical body but gives birth to spirit babies. I guess spirit babies are easier to give birth to....Love Paganism....
@scottgrey2877
@scottgrey2877 Год назад
Heavenly mother but no goddess worship
@lulu-qw8xy
@lulu-qw8xy Месяц назад
We do not have a Heavenly mother Nor is Mary
@sharonflay1593
@sharonflay1593 2 года назад
God is a male and not a female 😌
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
LDS believe in three gods (3 essences/beings) which is Tri-theism (an ancient heresy), and "heavenly mother" which is like a goddess but they hardly ever speak of her. She was their lead God's (whom they call Father) earthly and eternal wife and they were good proto-Mormons in their earthly life. They were exalted. They had their own god or gods before and those gods had their own gods, so on. HM is popping out spirit babies left and right but no one pays her any mind. Technically according to their beliefs there should be millions of "heavenly mothers" as polygamy is required in their idea of the highest part of heaven (the Celestial Kingdom) but no one ever addresses it or it's flat out denied. Yes the true and only God (our God) is likened to a male though being Spirit He cannot be either male nor female in a biological sense. The only member of the triune Godhead that incarnated (took on flesh) is Christ and of course He is biologically male.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
@@josephtripoli5069 Christ is God (the incarnate Logos of God that is God) and He is male. God is likened to a male by pronouns so we ought to respect that, and of course since Christ is biologically male we need to respect that.
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
News Article: "God had a wife, Asherah, whom the Book of Kings suggests was worshiped alongside Yahweh in his temple in Israel, according to an Oxford scholar." Hmm. Maybe Mormons are right.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
NO...
@LHJlives
@LHJlives 2 года назад
Grateful for this restored truth of our heavenly parentage, it makes sense that human relationships on earth were modeled after something preexisting.
@on_the_journey_101
@on_the_journey_101 2 года назад
@ jordan why do you believe that?
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
It was never a Christian belief, nor even thought of therefore it isn't a restoration. It is still not a Christian belief even in the most heterodox Protestant groups. Therefore it is not a restored truth as it is not a truth. That is another reason why Mormonism is another religion altogether. God has no need for a goddess (that would make four gods instead of three whether LDS want to admit it or not) as He is Spirit, neither male nor female in a carnal sense. Christ God (the Logos) was incarnated to be both man and God fully but He never got married nor had children. He is the only member of the triune Godhead (one God) who has a Body. Also, our souls are created at conception.
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
@@LadyMaria Well technically the Canonites did worship a God right along with a wife of God. So if we want to say restoration I guess that would be a restoration.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
@@stevenhenderson9005 The Canaanites were blotted out by God for a reason, blasphemy..
@rachelsewell7026
@rachelsewell7026 2 года назад
Nobody prays to Heavenly Mother and your video did not show that but yet you keep saying that.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Catholics pray to Mary though
@stephanielibbert1668
@stephanielibbert1668 2 месяца назад
So the entirety of creation was made with no input from the divine feminine??? Not very educated and completely irrational.
@RandomBeagle
@RandomBeagle 6 месяцев назад
So you went to one cult to another?
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 года назад
Do Christians ever read their Bible or do they just blabbing nonsense of what they think it contains. The teaching of the "Queen of Heaven" was a common teaching with the canonites.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
Okay? We believe Mother Mary to be the Queen [Mother] of Heaven since her Son is the King of Heaven, and the mother of the king is always the queen mother. She isn't an exalted goddess though unlike "Heavenly Mother".
@gz67
@gz67 Год назад
Yes, Christians do ever read their Bible..lol. Do you? Ever discover what God did and spoke against such worship of false deities?? In every instance of worship to a female deity, God commanded the destruction of that practice and complete annihilation of those false prophets and priests propagating that form of worship. Now we have Mormons elevating a female deity equal to and partner to a false man to godhood deity. Same false practice and deity worship as all the other nations practiced that God called an abomination.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Do you mean the pagan Queen of Heaven from Jeremiah? That's the only bible reference.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, god mom made the best roast beef sandwiches. but most of the time god mom was in the bedroom with god dad....
@kentskoien7583
@kentskoien7583 Год назад
i don't know what the mormons think, Dave, but I'm a Latter Day Saint, and I know what The Lord has revealed to His true Church on the earth. Well, when the time comes that you see her, why don't you ask her who she is ? i hope for your own sake that by that time you have quit your foul attacks on the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
@alannahmay3823
@alannahmay3823 Год назад
They don't seem like foul attacks to me. When Dave was in, the word "Mormon" was perfectly acceptable.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria Год назад
Why is there a need for a "Heavenly Mother"?
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 Год назад
Dave wasn't attacking your cult church at all, BUT I WILL! Joseph Smith was a con man, a thief, a liar, a racists and a sexual predator. Oh I forgot, he was an occultists too. How do you like them apples???
@susanabyad4396
@susanabyad4396 Год назад
The Bible speaks of false prophets. This is an example.
@johnnytsui7521
@johnnytsui7521 2 года назад
Most of the human societies have been patriarchal. Power has been controlled by men and that's why in the major religions of the world, most of dieties are male. Clergy is also dominated by men. However, mankind still yearns for female dieties. So, in various cultures, goddesses have been created and become very or most popular dieties in these cultures despite with a status inferior to the highest male being. The quest for a heavenly mother is justifiable if you can think out of the christian theological box and try to see how relgions started and evolved from a historical and anthropological perspective.
@DaveBartosiewicz
@DaveBartosiewicz 2 года назад
It is not what subjectively makes sense it is a false belief in Christianity. This is a very humanistic belief.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
And this is part of why we believe Mormons aren't Christian. The rest is moot. I don't care about other "gods".
@susanabyad4396
@susanabyad4396 Год назад
All I need is Jesus Christ. As a woman I do not yearn for a female deity.
@johnnytsui7521
@johnnytsui7521 Год назад
@@susanabyad4396 That's great. But what about others who feel a strong need for a heavenly mother?
@alannahmay3823
@alannahmay3823 Год назад
@@johnnytsui7521 My biological mother was abusive and I had to escape from her. There was no one to fill that gap until I came to know Mother Mary.
@MGBetts1
@MGBetts1 2 года назад
Hang on a second Dave, Mary IS a Mother to us, because she bore Jesus Christ, who is God. If we are brothers and sisters in Christ, then is she not our Mother too?
@DaveBartosiewicz
@DaveBartosiewicz 2 года назад
Mary is not the wife of a exalted god/heavenly father with flesh and bones. We know all about our Theotokos, but nothing of this Mormon mother who is married to heavenly father. Big difference here.
@MGBetts1
@MGBetts1 2 года назад
@@DaveBartosiewicz Oh yes, I'd forgotten we are their "spirit children" according to Mormon cosmology! No Mormon should die without being married, otherwise what will he do when he gets his own planet?
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 года назад
@@MGBetts1 He won't get his own planet then unless he has a harem.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
@@DaveBartosiewicz A mother figure is a mother figure. Why does one feel so wrong and one so right? Replace Heavenly Mother with Mary and you've got the same thing.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Mary was the mother of Jesus end of story.
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 Год назад
The 3 Morons Podcast is a total joke, just as the Mormon Cult Church.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 7 месяцев назад
Just send in your 10 percent and you can believe whatever you want...
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