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@MunitionsDudTester
@MunitionsDudTester 14 дней назад
"This is for your security and safety" is always tied to some absolute BS
@user-gk6gf1lq9x
@user-gk6gf1lq9x 14 дней назад
"Those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither, gamers rise up!" - Myao Xi Dong
@nielsdejong
@nielsdejong 14 дней назад
Authoritarians always say "This is for your security and safety". The National Socialists said the same when they confiscated all the guns from the jews, and the Democrat Socialists are now doing the same by blaming gun violence on legal gun owners instead of mentally ill people using illegal firearms which make up 80% of the cases. Nothing ever changes.
@shaggybaggums
@shaggybaggums 14 дней назад
Security and safety have never had anything to do with Sony. Although they do try to look after your mental well being by not informing you of the latest data breach right away, leaving it several weeks or even months before letting you know (and worry) about it.
@preyaskhuntia2190
@preyaskhuntia2190 14 дней назад
Funny thing is that psn accounts are often hacked at a large scale
@sakesaurus1706
@sakesaurus1706 14 дней назад
anri repair
@Mgvember
@Mgvember 14 дней назад
Sony Gets In The Way Of People Enjoying Video Games. News at 8.
@lazyvector
@lazyvector 14 дней назад
Man, Sony Japan should take back control over PlayStation. It sucks AF since America took more control over it
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda 14 дней назад
With the censorship, with the "diversity" agenda, etc.
@B-l-a-z-z-e-R
@B-l-a-z-z-e-R 14 дней назад
​@@lazyvectorThe problem is that Sony America is stationed in California.
@lazyvector
@lazyvector 14 дней назад
@@B-l-a-z-z-e-R even worse lol
@Eleganttf2
@Eleganttf2 14 дней назад
​@@B-l-a-z-z-e-R Ah yes Commiefornia
@RaveSault
@RaveSault 14 дней назад
"Safety and Security" No, Sony, Super Earth is a parody, not a guidebook.
@ironman1458
@ironman1458 14 дней назад
not reading all that.
@joshriley2936
@joshriley2936 14 дней назад
​@@ironman1458 It was 2 sentences.
@dadbodsupreme
@dadbodsupreme 13 дней назад
@@joshriley2936 you expect playstation players to have more than 3 brain cells to rub together?
@CarlosAM1
@CarlosAM1 13 дней назад
​@@ironman1458your comment is far too long sir, not reading all that
@homelander2243
@homelander2243 13 дней назад
Hopefully none of you return ever because the amount of people getting hacked on their just got cut to almost none. They took a shit on hackers and of course PC cried 👋
@theredtails7609
@theredtails7609 14 дней назад
Ngl, I feel bad for Arrowhead Studios specifically. They were probably forced to comply since Sony WAS technically their "big boss" and there wasn't another way to go with it.
@UchihaKuriso
@UchihaKuriso 14 дней назад
It reeks sony. Just like shiftup guy saying the censoring was intended also reeks sony.
@barbe00brune
@barbe00brune 14 дней назад
you had to had an account when the game launch, it was always suppose to come back. Its a playstation game to start with. I dont understand why everyone is suprised, was these people living under a rock?
@primecelron6764
@primecelron6764 14 дней назад
@@barbe00bruneit’s on steam are you a moron ?
@blackkray8351
@blackkray8351 14 дней назад
@@barbe00brune but its not a playstation game, its on pc also lol
@MDHouse93
@MDHouse93 14 дней назад
As i understand it Arrowhead chose Sony as the publisher.
@dylives7667
@dylives7667 14 дней назад
Sony woke up after ruining their own most recent exclusive and said: How do we make people's lives more miserable?
@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 14 дней назад
How the fuck does having to spend 5 minutes making a PSN account make your life miserable? Get the fuck over yourself.
@yomamasohot6411
@yomamasohot6411 14 дней назад
Ruined which game?
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 14 дней назад
Makes sense from Sony's perspective though. You get to artificially boost PSN numbers to shareholders and in advertising. Look at all these Playstation players! Never mind they don't have Playstations or aren't playing the console, it's a PSN account, still counts!
@tzunnynib
@tzunnynib 14 дней назад
If ur life gets miserable bcs of few games, than maybe stop investing money, time, resources into such developers in the future. Problem will solve by itself, we r the customers & put food in them mouth, not reverse.
@MrXMermerX
@MrXMermerX 14 дней назад
@@yomamasohot6411 I think its the Stellar Blade censorship drama
@Asethet
@Asethet 14 дней назад
Creating a PSN account is about the worst thing you could do to "protect players", given how often they're hacked
@spinnyboi9951
@spinnyboi9951 14 дней назад
requiring an additional account will have less protection regardless of how secure the additional account is, its still an extra thing people could attempt to hack
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 14 дней назад
Makes sense from Sony's perspective though. You get to artificially boost PSN numbers to shareholders and in advertising. Look at all these Playstation players! Never mind they don't have Playstations or aren't playing the console, it's a PSN account, still counts!
@spinnyboi9951
@spinnyboi9951 14 дней назад
@@Blisterdude123 now that you say that, i wonder how that would look from a legal standpoint. they'd be sharing factual information, but said information doesnt actually have anything to do with the value of the company, and with that, the shares.
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 14 дней назад
@@spinnyboi9951 Literally irrelevant, since the corporations are the ones who tend to establish the rules they dubiously follow. What you're describing is amoral, scummy, underhanded, and entirely business as normal. Nothing remotely exceptional to any business operating in the market today.
@spinnyboi9951
@spinnyboi9951 14 дней назад
@@Blisterdude123 oh i know, was moreso curious how it would uphold in a lawsuit IF one somehow were to get started. there in lies the biggest shitshow, even if it somehow doesnt get thrown out beforehand, itd probably end in an early, shit settlement due to the corporation making it clear they will just stall to stack up legal costs for the, probably far less wealthy, opponent.
@spacegoose2989
@spacegoose2989 14 дней назад
It’s crazy that HD2 did so much right for the players and in return, it became Sony’s 7th highest grossing game. Then the lesson that Sony took from that is to force account linking because that’s what the players want.
@devinpol4258
@devinpol4258 14 дней назад
*Shareholders
@PulseOfMe
@PulseOfMe 13 дней назад
@@devinpol4258 Sony has choices to say yes or no to shareholders, so Sony is held accountable aswell. Yes, your Messiah Sony CAN do wrong.
@abyssal-labs
@abyssal-labs 14 дней назад
ISSUE IS: their kernel anti cheat on pc gives full system access then having to link a psn account means sony now has full access to your system and its data to sell
@JanstonCordell
@JanstonCordell 14 дней назад
It also gives Sony the ability to police speech on in-game voice chat.
@UchihaKuriso
@UchihaKuriso 14 дней назад
Most anticheats are kernel level, thats not an issue. The issue is GameGuard is pretty much malware the way it behaves. Didnt buy HD2 because of it, now even if they replaced ut i still wouldnt. And its a shame. I loved helldivers 1.
@theexurian1079
@theexurian1079 14 дней назад
Most anticheats are too invasive, and from what I hear, lazy at best, and nefarious data collection at worst.
@RealRatchet
@RealRatchet 14 дней назад
​@@UchihaKurisowait game guard still a thing? Last game I played that had gg was 20 years ago.
@ralphace3071
@ralphace3071 13 дней назад
​@@JanstonCordell1984' george owell sony is watching you 🤣🤣🤣
@Tra1n
@Tra1n 14 дней назад
"This is for your security and safety" bruh They’ve been hacked more times than they’ve released games💀
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 14 дней назад
The irony is that sony is acting exactly how super earth would act in the helldivers universe. Really makes you think.
@cuttheloop
@cuttheloop 14 дней назад
The "safety and security" to be reserved for a certain class of divers once they also mandate pride capes, armor sets and flags. you'll be forced to play with/worship them of face ban.
@Sig509
@Sig509 14 дней назад
This is only for pumping up user amount of their pathetic service.
@Marryjanesbud
@Marryjanesbud 14 дней назад
No they haven’t what are you on about Lmao. “Oh no, I have to make a free account to play this online only game, oh the horror.” That’s you rn. That’s what you sound like. It’s not an issue when Respawn needs you to make an account to play Apex or when Blizzard tells you, you need an account to play Overwatch or when EA asks you to make account but suddenly, it’s an issue when Helldivers asks for the exact same thing? Dude… grow up. You’re just complaining for the sake of making noise. You’re just standing in the rain & complaining that it’s wet.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@Marryjanesbud Good luck trying to grow up with being hacked by anonymous 🤡
@Terralventhe
@Terralventhe 14 дней назад
Guaranteed Sony did this out of pettiness for Helldivers 2 upstaging all the AAA games.
@ikmalkamal5830
@ikmalkamal5830 14 дней назад
Well it's Sony. It's a woke company, so of course it's naturally spiteful and vindictive for no reason. Remember all the censorship they did. This behavior is natural for them.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@ikmalkamal5830 Never forget sony censorship in Stellar Blade 😢
@Surtr174
@Surtr174 14 дней назад
Can pretty much sue Sony for that though. Quite easily even.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 14 дней назад
This is about taking people away from Steam pure and simple. I bet they see how much Steam made from selling Helldivers for them and and they now want a piece of that on the backend.... or will try to release games directly through their app on PC instead.
@trlentjr
@trlentjr 14 дней назад
Not anymore sadly. It was good before sony
@CrazyKevin22
@CrazyKevin22 14 дней назад
“This is for your security and safety” While they require you to install a KERNEL LEVEL anticheat on your computer for a PvE game.
@LockedPotato
@LockedPotato 14 дней назад
What's funnier is if you play the game on Linux the AC doesn't run at the kernel level but instead as a userland application.
@mateuszkrytyk5711
@mateuszkrytyk5711 14 дней назад
@@LockedPotato decode it into IT noob windows user
@LockedPotato
@LockedPotato 14 дней назад
@@mateuszkrytyk5711 Linux doesn't allow the full rootkit-tier anti-cheat to run. Applications aren't allowed to run code as ring0/kernel mode. Even with root (read: admin) privileges. So what anti-cheats like EAC/BattleEye do on Linux is basically go, "Oh, this seems to be Linux. I'll just launch the userland (same privileges as any other normal application) version of the anti-cheat that doesn't run in the kernel.". It's the exact same game binary running on both (but on Linux it runs in Proton a compatibility layer). With people playing on the exact same servers.
@mateuszkrytyk5711
@mateuszkrytyk5711 13 дней назад
@@LockedPotato this makes kernel anticheat look even worse and pointless Well thanks anyway for the explanation I have very limited knowledge about linux cuz i have just started recently and i am more focused on the network administration side of things mainly redhat but simple stuff like pinging servers and other checks
@AngryGerbils
@AngryGerbils 14 дней назад
"Helldivers 2 is a better choice than AAA games right now." Sony: "Hold my beer."
@HelloKolla
@HelloKolla 14 дней назад
When will publishers realize that forcing proprietary services onto their games and fans instead of using already established/popular ones will just turn people away from even playing?
@zerox4434
@zerox4434 14 дней назад
This is being pushed by Sony. Arrowhead probably doesn't care one bit about what system you play their game on.
@postblitz
@postblitz 14 дней назад
When people will in fact turn away from playing. Most people will be fotm chasers regardless.
@HelloKolla
@HelloKolla 14 дней назад
@@zerox4434 ye, it's why I said 'publishers' not developers
@ardex9677
@ardex9677 14 дней назад
But they get the data from both steam and PSN account.
@several.
@several. 14 дней назад
Yeah, I'd love to see the executives having the conversation going "this will be great! We'll get a bunch of new sign ups to our platform and they slowly integrate!" and never at all think maybe forcing consumers to see your brand as an inevitable hurdle to access the good they actually purchased will result with a negative customer outlook.
@pilotman9819
@pilotman9819 14 дней назад
From censoring Stellar Blade to messing up Helldivers 2. Sony needs boycotting.
@WhyAreYouGhe
@WhyAreYouGhe 14 дней назад
I hope the review bombing starts in full force on steam. I, for one, will not stand for this. I feel so sorry for Arrowhead, but THIS is the price you pay for having a publishing deal with the devil...
@watafumx
@watafumx 14 дней назад
@@WhyAreYouGhe You tell'em, Steve Dave! Everybody will stop playing HD2, just like when they boycotted Overwatch 2 when they required phones for verification. Right? RIGHT?
@WhyAreYouGhe
@WhyAreYouGhe 14 дней назад
@@watafumx well you can continue complaining instead of actually doing something. I'm sure you'll be far more effective then me...
@loner9832
@loner9832 14 дней назад
@@WhyAreYouGhe i don't feel srry for them, they should have said NO. they don't care about the pc community when they said if we don't make a PSN theirs no Community worthwhile. FUCK EM, I ALREADY SUBMITTED A TICKET.
@mena10ss
@mena10ss 14 дней назад
​@@WhyAreYouGheIt sucks for people in unsupported countries, but this is still overdramatic af. Nintendo is 1000x worse than Sony and yet people still throw money at that company all the time. At least boycott a company for something serious.
@balanceofjudgment9995
@balanceofjudgment9995 14 дней назад
Is this one of those "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" moment?
@TheAwesomeKielbasa
@TheAwesomeKielbasa 14 дней назад
I think Steam needs some sort of terms of service that says you can't require customers to create an account on another service to use the product you bought on Steam.
@Volcano22207
@Volcano22207 14 дней назад
Yes
@davidmorcombe6779
@davidmorcombe6779 14 дней назад
this
@floddy133
@floddy133 14 дней назад
U have this same shit on AC games on Steam , u need to make an ubisoft account to play.
@RealRatchet
@RealRatchet 14 дней назад
Nah, it's fine if they have it. What steam should have is that if at any point companies change service agreement like in this case it automatically let's you refund the game no questions if you have less than 2hrs of gameplay after change. We could carve an exception in case where it actually removes some restrictions like game removing denuvo after some time.
@anakmaganggaming
@anakmaganggaming 13 дней назад
@@floddy133 that's why i refuse to play any Ubisoft games
@desperadox6835
@desperadox6835 14 дней назад
“So this is how liberty dies”
@BlazeDeval
@BlazeDeval 14 дней назад
Not with thunderous applause, but with a PSN account...
@gman2570
@gman2570 14 дней назад
@@BlazeDeval with a bunch of cry babies over reacting because they didnt do any reaserch before buying a game that clearly staes it needs a psn account to play
@dylives7667
@dylives7667 14 дней назад
Not very democratic of Sony.
@dylives7667
@dylives7667 14 дней назад
@@gman2570 Cope and seethe more. This is the year Playstation kicks the can.
@gman2570
@gman2570 14 дней назад
@@dylives7667 the only ones seetheing are the people throwing a bitch fit over something that was sated and known when the game came out. Its a fuckjing account it takes 1 minute tops to make it is not a big deal
@Crawzitow
@Crawzitow 14 дней назад
The non full price game becoming the 7th biggest earnings game in sony history with almost no micro transactions was not enough for sony…
@NuchiAsaki
@NuchiAsaki 14 дней назад
The majority of players will make PSN accounts. The majority of the people complaining about this will make PSN accounts. Gamers love eating shit.
@null_reference
@null_reference 14 дней назад
​@@NuchiAsakiit's not even eating shit. It takes two minutes of time. And from what I can tell from a few google searches, if you're from a country without PlayStation access you can just set the region to US and it's only a problem if you try to buy something on the PS Store. This issue is getting completely blown out of proportion here. Normally I agree with Asmon's community but this ain't it
@londonspade5896
@londonspade5896 14 дней назад
@@null_reference This is another step in the degradation of consumer rights / mistreatment by corporations, if you don't see how this is a problem you're not seeing the big picture.. Shit like this was unheard of 15 years ago
@Aurilion44
@Aurilion44 14 дней назад
​@@null_reference Asmon community LOVES drama and being contrarian. Helldivers is rightfully popular, so it has to end...
@petervillent5573
@petervillent5573 14 дней назад
@@NuchiAsaki The majority of players ditched the game before even this news were a thing. 70% dip in playerbase after previous patch, even more after this weeks. And now this, the game is becoming worse and more tedious, and now they are forcing people to link their accounts or they'll deny their access. Dead game incoming?
@Aethelbeorn
@Aethelbeorn 14 дней назад
Thor 'PirateSoftware', a security expert, says this does nothing for security.
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 14 дней назад
That is not true. It does A LOT for security ... all of it bad!
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@Grubnar anonymous exposed it hard but sony staff was deaf as usual
@marcuspvxea
@marcuspvxea 14 дней назад
In europe its illegal to do something this without providing a refund. So if ur from Europe you protected by the user consumption law. If steam denied your refund, force it and escalate it. You cannot force predatory limitations like this that completely removes your ability to fully access the services you had access to when you bought it.
@abnormallylargemonkey9334
@abnormallylargemonkey9334 14 дней назад
It wasn't the automatons or terminids that brought down Super Earth but corporate greed
@MikeDeSmet-lp7nl
@MikeDeSmet-lp7nl 14 дней назад
Sony is taking out a competitor here. Arrowhead made a deal with the devil and now they have to pay for it.
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog 14 дней назад
Commifornians are automatons (npcs) and redditors are terminids (pod bugs)
@robertrussell4549
@robertrussell4549 14 дней назад
Y’know, strangely fitting
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 14 дней назад
Super Earth Elites were the true enemy all along
@tibbers3755
@tibbers3755 14 дней назад
Thats the ultimate irony
@user-er1fs3je4x
@user-er1fs3je4x 14 дней назад
So people who have no playstation console, have nothing to do with playstation, and might actively want not to have a PSN account will need to have one to play a PVE game? Unless this was clearly communicated to everyone who bought the game so far, this is just malicious.
@lordsathariel4384
@lordsathariel4384 14 дней назад
prodict people trying to refund not in mass but those who can't have a psn account will want refunds asap i bet.
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 14 дней назад
100% agreed.
@astrealove2247
@astrealove2247 14 дней назад
You can make a PSN account without owning a Playstation. Not that it makes the issue any better though.
@Corvaric
@Corvaric 14 дней назад
What? If I remember correctly, you don't need a Playstation to make a Playstation Account. You just go to the site, make it, done.
@Dylanfrias24
@Dylanfrias24 14 дней назад
Dont want ps to have my details when they get hacked every Tuesday
@natel7151
@natel7151 14 дней назад
I forgot that Sony is the publisher for Helldivers... Seriously, screw them. I'm guessing they were the ones who forced Denuvo on the game. Just screw them.
@ZontarDow
@ZontarDow 14 дней назад
"Female Helldivers need bikini armour" He was so real for this
@sickelmo_official
@sickelmo_official 14 дней назад
Remember when you put your purchased CD into your drive, install the game and just play?
@therealsourc3
@therealsourc3 14 дней назад
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
@Ninjagamer101
@Ninjagamer101 14 дней назад
I remember when you could buy a cd and there was no install, you just played RIP PS2
@speed3414
@speed3414 14 дней назад
Didn't some CDs had horrible DRM to the point it could brick your entire PC? Because this isn't new
@firebrotha3889
@firebrotha3889 14 дней назад
"come on grandpa it's time for bed."...yes the good days.
@narcotics5862
@narcotics5862 14 дней назад
Yes Half-life2 ended that
@linhle8294
@linhle8294 14 дней назад
Stellar Blade isn't enough of a sacrifice, they have to go and sacrifice Helldivers 2 too
@Otsutsuki-san
@Otsutsuki-san 14 дней назад
What happened to stellar blade?
@danteseleniumcaelo5287
@danteseleniumcaelo5287 14 дней назад
@@Otsutsuki-sanSony
@alfasilverblade
@alfasilverblade 14 дней назад
​@@Otsutsuki-san clivage censored
@MrValgard
@MrValgard 14 дней назад
sometimes wonder if Sony hates their customers xd
@morganblondellet
@morganblondellet 14 дней назад
@@Otsutsuki-san people are mad because the suits have been modified so you can't see as much skin as advertised.
@Zanroff
@Zanroff 14 дней назад
Moderators locked the steam discussion under the announcement. This is a bad look for them. They are destroying themselves.
@justareplica
@justareplica 13 дней назад
It's alright guys. This can be explained canonically in 2 different ways. 1: We won the war so they require less Helldivers from now on. 2: Most of us found out SuperEarth was the bad guy and were all executed. Either way we can all move to "Starship Troopers Extermination."
@jakestaheli8532
@jakestaheli8532 14 дней назад
The one person asking for a bikini in all this nonsense made my day
@Mirak-el
@Mirak-el 14 дней назад
What a Chad
@Lightwish4K
@Lightwish4K 14 дней назад
Plus one for that !
@Pokepunk
@Pokepunk 14 дней назад
gotta admit, 99% of games I play where I can choose/make a character, I be a woman with a nice ass
@oddtomato1049
@oddtomato1049 14 дней назад
The helmet stays on during liberation.
@icicle_ai
@icicle_ai 14 дней назад
@@oddtomato1049 I got the reference
@tinypixiebread
@tinypixiebread 14 дней назад
Sony woke up one morning and be like "Oh shit, we haven't ruin another game yet, hold my controller"
@jawamaster
@jawamaster 14 дней назад
7 days without ruining a game (Stellar Blade) -> 0 (Helldivers)
@xo-1320
@xo-1320 14 дней назад
​@@jawamasterthey already fucked over Typemoon yesterday.
@billyjoe8185
@billyjoe8185 14 дней назад
@@jawamaster (impossible)
@Vss077
@Vss077 14 дней назад
I'm certainly surprised how many didn't read the text when they launched the game for the first time. it literally said it's a requirement in order to play since DAY 1. what a surprise they enforce it now. mind blowing news guys. (I know they disabled the requirement and said it's optional but it was due server issues & overload. the text never got patched out though)
@Senseless0311
@Senseless0311 14 дней назад
almost every game you buy now requires some link shit. its so tedious.
@ImSpecialDurr
@ImSpecialDurr 14 дней назад
Sony - “This is for security” *Translation* “We want your info so we can sell it to third-parties”
@bourbon2605
@bourbon2605 14 дней назад
The only time when you see Sony and Safety in the same sentence is when the words "Doesn't care about" are in between them.
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 14 дней назад
Sony and security aren't in the same universe. Some of the biggest, most damaging hacks in the industry have been on their watch. And every time they tried to cover it up, rather than admitting it and trying to fix it, or protect the data of their customers. They didn't give a damn, protecting their rep was more important than protecting their customers.
@stefanmadethen5359
@stefanmadethen5359 14 дней назад
"maybe this will get us more ps+ subscribers" -someone
@flux_casey
@flux_casey 14 дней назад
Yeahhhhhh, how many times have they had a catastrophic data breach again? And they want to force people into that ecosystem when swiss cheese looks at their security and goes "Damn, look at all them holes"?
@tichyad213
@tichyad213 14 дней назад
Thats not true "sony safety breach"
@Saaru606
@Saaru606 14 дней назад
LOL good one lol
@kennethk.3816
@kennethk.3816 14 дней назад
I guess the honeymoon phase is over.
@dusk2308
@dusk2308 14 дней назад
i mean it was damn nice when it lasted
@Dregomz02
@Dregomz02 14 дней назад
I got bored of it after 20h. I don't understand how people could have fun for longer you do same thing over and over again on overly huge maps. Procedurally generated worlds are always boring and worse than hand crafted worlds.
@nicechock
@nicechock 14 дней назад
@@Dregomz02 no map is boring by default. its more likely the game is just boring. Played valheim for 137h without getting bored of the map and still not. Got bored of the gameplay though.
@areafurrynone1913
@areafurrynone1913 14 дней назад
⁠@@Dregomz02Unfortunately you have bad taste. I hope you get that checked out
@giga854
@giga854 14 дней назад
@@Dregomz02 that sounds like cod
@nanopolymath
@nanopolymath 14 дней назад
Not much difference from all the other publishers that require gamers to create/link accounts. EA, Capcom etc Having to link isn’t really a big deal imho, annoying yes. Big deal is more how others in unsupported regions can have access. Never a good look to lock gamers out of playing.
@SodapoppinVODS
@SodapoppinVODS 13 дней назад
Woaw, Helldivers 2 really took a helldive literally
@kopzz
@kopzz 14 дней назад
Sony saw HD2 have too much sucess and try their hardest to fuck it up, classic Sony
@sinafey7030
@sinafey7030 14 дней назад
imo its a mix of arrowhead refusing to bow down into woke propaganda + recent stellar blade drama. they need numbers and need the data of players for processing
@Chraan
@Chraan 14 дней назад
@@sinafey7030 Processing? You mean sharing, right
@sinafey7030
@sinafey7030 14 дней назад
@@Chraan yeah, processing as sharing ur personal data with other 3rd and 4th party members
@gman2570
@gman2570 14 дней назад
THis has been a requirment since before the game launched
@sinafey7030
@sinafey7030 14 дней назад
@@gman2570 yes, and there were always female custodians, right?
@jmlee737
@jmlee737 14 дней назад
Let me get this straight: 1. Sony didn't really think that this game would be this success for several reasons(such as: the game uses obsolete graphic engine, unproven possibility of Co-op genre, etc). They barely made any advertisement for this game. 2. Most of the user feed back & managements are done by Arrowhead developers. Sony contributed technically nothing to user A/S. 3. And back to current time, they now decided to make it obligatory for the players to link their account to Sony? This is a bit disgusting ngl
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 14 дней назад
Sony? Being disgusting?? Say it ain't so ..
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@Max_Ohm Yeah, like how shocking of sony censorship in several games! wokey as usual
@juiceboxbzrk
@juiceboxbzrk 14 дней назад
​@@ricardohoang8452 People who use the word woke unironically would be dumb enough to miss the point
@toasterenthusiast6188
@toasterenthusiast6188 14 дней назад
​@@ricardohoang8452Does everything have to be a political culture war for you people? Dude, shut up.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@toasterenthusiast6188 And SBI, toneman and demins already used their political threat jokes on Grummz. I come here for Grummz and non-wokey things 😂
@Nevarro_
@Nevarro_ 14 дней назад
It didn't need a PS link before and it seemed to work fine, But now it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.
@user-ff8rs7gk6r
@user-ff8rs7gk6r 14 дней назад
Yep, it's called a "bait and switch".
@christopherzajonskowski7123
@christopherzajonskowski7123 14 дней назад
@@user-ff8rs7gk6r If what was claimed is true, it's literally NOT a 'bait and switch' - because by their statement and all the info I can see on their Steam page, the PSN account was ALWAYS necessary. And as they said, they just disabled that necessity temporarily due to technical issues. So now they're restoring things to what was ALWAYS what was sold. No bait - no switch. While the necessity still might be a bad thing and will most likely offer zero benefit to the player, you don't have to make things up just to have an argument against Sony.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@christopherzajonskowski7123 No bait, no switch but refund storm will come
@shadowsketch926
@shadowsketch926 14 дней назад
@@christopherzajonskowski7123 then explain how i could play with both pc and psn players without having linked my account? tell me exactly how too, i'd love to hear how a system that has been hacked more often then they have exclusive games on their latest console, should make me feel safe?
@christopherzajonskowski7123
@christopherzajonskowski7123 14 дней назад
@@ricardohoang8452 Oh, I guess - maybe - really depends on Valve in this situation I guess. Wouldn't be the first instance they side with the customer to not have to deal with that shit. But I'm not 100% confident this case will end in this exact same way. Not that I have any problems with that - if players refund and Valve accepts the argumentation, good for them. But in all honesty - knowing 'gamers' mentality for well over 30 years now, part of that 'professionally' - I actually would bet a sum on the scenario where at least half of the complainers (in these comments here alone) will just cave and make a PSN account just so they can get their daily fix of playing the game. If 'gamers' ever would have stood by some principles and acted as 'enlightened consumers' - things like this here would never have became the norm in the first place. It's mostly just the weak-ass mentality of the people who allowed certain business practices to be established around gaming. They sure like to curse a lot and make a ruckus online - but when it comes to actively boycotting a game they want to play despite disagreeing with the practices behind it... well... we all should know how this always ends...
@ahabsbane
@ahabsbane 14 дней назад
Was gonna pick this up this weekend, not any more!
@Harristar88
@Harristar88 14 дней назад
At least some people waited and didn't get bait and switched like the rest of us.
@clapcell
@clapcell 14 дней назад
Sony: Oops people are enjoying our game too much, better f*ck'em up and show who's the boss
@A1stardan
@A1stardan 14 дней назад
Sony does have a weird dominatrix thing going on
@crimzurekaiya
@crimzurekaiya 14 дней назад
Time to refund, bois!
@Michael.Virtus
@Michael.Virtus 14 дней назад
No. While I definitely don't love this I created my first PSN account (never owned Playstation and never will) a week before Helldivers 2 launched. There was info for that on the Steam page so I thought it's mandatory back then. It was announced as an official requirement pre-launch. So I linked my Steam with my newly created PSN account on Day 1. I am surprised that this is becoming a drama 3 months later.
@youtubeenjoyer1743
@youtubeenjoyer1743 14 дней назад
This is actually a good move on their part, because they are effectively filtering all russians and chinese players from a democratic free society game. Simple as
@Amaryllis6731
@Amaryllis6731 14 дней назад
@@Michael.Virtus People really just couldn't fucking read man. Takes me less than a minute with a garbage mail, and I was only reminded that i have a PSN account after the announcement. It's really odd people are throwing a hissy fit even though it has always been stated plainly and clearly that a PSN account will be required to play the game since before the game was even launched.
@PinkMonkeyBird
@PinkMonkeyBird 14 дней назад
And there you have it. The nail in the coffin of the most acclaimed game of the year so far. Can't let people have fun.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
There goes Helldivers 2 GOTY campaign
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 14 дней назад
Yeah, These people hate seeing gamers have fun, They just want to push their own message in a game and have players pour in thousands of dollars to get profit from eating slop.
@moonasha
@moonasha 14 дней назад
jesus christ you people are melodramatic.
@mrpotato6567
@mrpotato6567 14 дней назад
Lmao y’all are goofy if you think helldivers is dying because people suddenly care about their data And people who live in third world countries with access to high end gaming consoles You all are sheep of the lowest herd
@loner9832
@loner9832 14 дней назад
@@moonasha they're bricking the fucking game.
@ChickenCaeser
@ChickenCaeser 14 дней назад
They locked the tread before the pages got to 50 xD
@broghetti8858
@broghetti8858 14 дней назад
I might've dived into Helldivers 2 on a sale, until now - Great work!
@Vic-ww8cg
@Vic-ww8cg 14 дней назад
How to kill a game speedrun
@lunerlilly
@lunerlilly 14 дней назад
For real!
@mozzarellamaniac6300
@mozzarellamaniac6300 14 дней назад
Sony%
@otrousuariomas7411
@otrousuariomas7411 14 дней назад
Yeah they are killing the game slowly
@Cakalank
@Cakalank 14 дней назад
Dude its just an account linking. Had mine linked on the 1st time playing it. No problem 😂
@Kim77133
@Kim77133 14 дней назад
Agreed
@dayanson6920
@dayanson6920 14 дней назад
People have already literally paid them money for the game and now they want to try and funnel people into their services. RIP Hell Divers 2.
@echtvergoldet
@echtvergoldet 14 дней назад
It's a game as a service. They bring out warbonds like every month. People not playing the game and buying them will hurt Sony.
@nicechock
@nicechock 14 дней назад
They should offer refund to all players who want it
@nerfgunner2327
@nerfgunner2327 14 дней назад
RIP? Jesus man you guys are so easy to flip. Game isnt dead now 😂
@OnlyGrafting
@OnlyGrafting 14 дней назад
​@@nerfgunner2327 yeah it's got a month before a chunk of the playerbase stand their ground
@Lerxst
@Lerxst 14 дней назад
@@nerfgunner2327 It hit it's lowest steam player count by 10k+ within 12 hours of this being announced lol if they don't backtrack game is absolutely dead
@Michael.Virtus
@Michael.Virtus 14 дней назад
While I definitely don't love this I created my first PSN account (never owned Playstation and never will) a week before Helldivers 2 launched. There was info for that on the Steam page so I thought it's mandatory back then. It was announced as an official requirement pre-launch. So I linked my Steam with my newly created PSN account on Day 1. I am surprised that this is becoming a drama 3 months later.
@J__T
@J__T 14 дней назад
You kinda forgot the sizable playerbase who bought the game and only now are told they are outside of PSN region effectively banning them. They basically bought a scam product; and don't attempt the argument of "it was there at launch" because if it was a real requirement then the game shouldn't have been functioning up to now which it clearly has _and_ the players outside of the playable region wouldn't have been able to _buy_ it.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 14 дней назад
​@@J__Tthis is a problem. For Them and steam.... why are ppl blaming Sony? As the op said THEY STATED YOU NEEDED A PSN ACCOUNT.....if you knew u could not get one why did you buy the game....more over WHY DID STEAM SELL YOU THE GAME KNOWUNG YOU WOULD BE REGION LOCKED.... But ppl blame Sony? NO this is first and foremost A USER ISSUES. If I buy a gun in a state they are band I can't cry later my gu. Is taken away....I van be mad at the place I bought it at for selling me a product they knew( and steam did know) I could kot use..... Ppl should be mad at steam. But honestly it's the players in them regions fault..... Stop blaming Sony pc need, be a news and READ!
@personthing88
@personthing88 13 дней назад
@@J__T When I downloaded it I was told "This is OPTIONAL not a requirement" and from what I could get from the info around it it was to allow me to use mic - so I wasn't worried Alas
@phoxpharms
@phoxpharms 13 дней назад
Enjoy hackers having your bank card information after Sony gets their annual hacking. By linking your PSN account to your Steam account, Sony has your steam account information, plus their anti cheat gives them access to your entire computer, which they will use to farm your data, which hackers will use to steal your money.
@redcenturion88
@redcenturion88 14 дней назад
It was always mandatory. They temporarily lifted the link up due to server issues. People forgot and are now in fill kowabunga mode lol
@ironman1458
@ironman1458 14 дней назад
not reading all that.
@enthiegavoir5955
@enthiegavoir5955 14 дней назад
Then why did they sell it in countries that don't have PSN?
@redcenturion88
@redcenturion88 14 дней назад
@enthiegavoir5955 that's definitely a good question
@Padlock_Steve
@Padlock_Steve 14 дней назад
how to half your playerbase in 30 seconds
@fierydawn2635
@fierydawn2635 14 дней назад
Welp, better call my previous employer Deep Rock and ask if they still have some positions open.
@jonathonspears7736
@jonathonspears7736 14 дней назад
Rock and stone!
@graveyardshift6691
@graveyardshift6691 14 дней назад
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE!
@kaden-sd6vb
@kaden-sd6vb 14 дней назад
Aye, time to head back to hoxxes.
@Sapphire_Jack
@Sapphire_Jack 14 дней назад
FOR KARL
@kazeith
@kazeith 14 дней назад
Miners, the lowest and the HIGHEST. ROCK AND STONE!
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 14 дней назад
This is why im so glad im a pirate. Download whatever version you want, cracked, and ready to go, no account whatsoever needed!
@SchizoPresence
@SchizoPresence 14 дней назад
nothing like plundering through the seven seas
@daizensekai
@daizensekai 13 дней назад
Is it possible to pirate online game like hd2?
@atrocious7766
@atrocious7766 14 дней назад
The 0 upvotes is actually a Steam bug. It has 2k upvotes from the News tab.
@phoxpharms
@phoxpharms 13 дней назад
1 day later, still has 0 upvotes and is now locked because it got trashed so hard.
@brodrickflowers117
@brodrickflowers117 14 дней назад
This is LITERALLY the video he reacted to about companies making it that you can't watch the TV you paid for unless you opt in to ads. If there are new changes and demands being asked of you well AFTER you purchase the product, you should be entitled to a refund....I really hope STEAM does the right thing here
@pierrostation
@pierrostation 14 дней назад
It was already mandatory but paused due to technical issues, when you bought the game you signed those user agreements.... put down this tin foil hat lol Edit : Y'all are crybabies for not reading steam pages basic infos and pretends to know anything about EU laws its hilarious af to me
@mikehunt4265
@mikehunt4265 14 дней назад
​@@pierrostationuser agreements don't supercede the law of consumer rights
@TheThottbot
@TheThottbot 14 дней назад
it literally told u at the launch of the first game to link to PSN and "*REQUIRED TO PLAY HELLDIVERS 2" under it
@stevejones69420
@stevejones69420 14 дней назад
​@@pierrostation"it's in the user agreement, don't know the user agreement is god , you can sign away your consumer rights in the user agreement" this attitude is why gaming (and other)companies get away with things like this
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 14 дней назад
Correction you stop being a shill and Sony stops with their illegal surveillance and illegal data harvesting.
@samutraifin
@samutraifin 14 дней назад
"how to kill playerbase?" sony: hold my hackers
@GodChaos333
@GodChaos333 14 дней назад
We need that guy who asked “is this an out of season April fools joke?”
@Archangels_righthandboi
@Archangels_righthandboi 14 дней назад
Now is the time for Helldivers 2 to be ported on Xbox
14 дней назад
What a shame. That's PlayStations issue though. Arrowhead is probably pissed as well at this.
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 14 дней назад
Twinbeard confirms this is *ALL* on Sony.
@immapotato1
@immapotato1 14 дней назад
I'm going to assume they trapped them in some sort of legal clause
14 дней назад
I have nothing but nice things to say about Arrowhead tbh. They made an amazing game im obsessed with and continue to provide a fun, immersive live service product with S tier monetization
@DieingDonut
@DieingDonut 14 дней назад
Its been a thing tho.
@neziaojuara1768
@neziaojuara1768 14 дней назад
Well, it was them who decided to associate with Sony, it's not like they had a gun put to their heads or something.
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain 14 дней назад
I am 47. I still remember when gaming was fun.
@pointlessmanatee
@pointlessmanatee 14 дней назад
I mean all those old games you like are still there, why aren't you having fun with those?
@Luckmann
@Luckmann 14 дней назад
@@pointlessmanatee You can only play a game for the first time once. I know the plot twist of Knights of the Old Republic. I've memorized every part of Deus Ex. Arcanum is jank for all its charms. Baldur's Gate 1/2 is a hassle to get up and running properly. Yeah, there's a lot of games, and they're still there, but you can only read a book so many times, my dude. You'll understand it when you get older. I genuinely envy the young, for they can go back and play all the old treasures as if they were new and shiny and ever as great as on release.
@koldmotro5530
@koldmotro5530 14 дней назад
@@Luckmann 99,9% of old games are absolute trash with today's standards anyway.
@johnjackson9751
@johnjackson9751 14 дней назад
@@koldmotro5530This is the most doodoo take I’ve seen today
@mr.nobodyx
@mr.nobodyx 14 дней назад
​@@koldmotro5530that's life, 99% of everything of any Generation is always trash. Or are today's games not also 99% Trash? How many games of today will still be a topic 20 years from now?
@Cigaro_
@Cigaro_ 14 дней назад
And I was thinking of buying it on Steam. I guess I will wait till it's pirated or just watch it on RU-vid.
@ZhaneBadguy
@ZhaneBadguy 14 дней назад
"It's just for your own safety." Where have I heard this before.
@side7oldtype298
@side7oldtype298 14 дней назад
"Let's mandate our shitty service to Steam, what could go wrong?" -Kusony prolly
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 14 дней назад
They think gaben Will do something about It. He Will not. AND THAT Will be theyr undoing.
@crimzurekaiya
@crimzurekaiya 14 дней назад
Time to refund, bois!
@joshm3484
@joshm3484 14 дней назад
Sorry Sony, after you installed a rootkit on my PC in the name of DRM, you lost the right to say anything you do is for security.
@Luckmann
@Luckmann 14 дней назад
I mean, after they did that, a ton of anti-consumerist gamers just up and accepted it, so it makes absolutely perfect sense that Sony would push the exact same envelope even more, and the sad fact of the matter is that the same anti-consumerist games are going to sit and take it, and make the industry worse for the rest of us. Anyone that got Helldivers 2 to begin with after the monetization rootkit thing was revealed is to blame, and we shouldn't feel sorry for them, because they'll eat this shit and grin about it, and keep giving their money to the megacorps.
@dylives7667
@dylives7667 14 дней назад
@@Luckmann Well, you know. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. This is those anti consoomers saying enough is enough and taking a stand. One could only be so stupid for thinking this is right. Or just simply a Pony.
@joeydirt420
@joeydirt420 14 дней назад
Wow todays pc gamers are such little snowflake soyboys. Oh no woe is me how terrible…. Hope your all children still. If your adults Jesus Christ
@TwoLeftSh0es
@TwoLeftSh0es 14 дней назад
@@dylives7667 You fool me you can't get fooled again - Old Tennessee proverb.
@lorenmixwell787
@lorenmixwell787 14 дней назад
I firmly believe Microsoft is waaaaaay up in Sony's DMs sharing tips
@Bender_B._Rodriguez
@Bender_B._Rodriguez 14 дней назад
well this game will never see xbox
@Desolator-ny7cb
@Desolator-ny7cb 14 дней назад
There goes the game ive been wanting to play. Im just waiting for school vacation to start playing. THANKS A LOT SONY.
@JmannTW
@JmannTW 14 дней назад
Sony managers on the next executives meeting: "Look how PSN grown in only one week! We deserve a raise"
@ImperativeGames
@ImperativeGames 14 дней назад
The dumb greedy bastards who works there really think that way.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
Hackers: Ah, good day good days
@anidiotmakesthings
@anidiotmakesthings 14 дней назад
@@ricardohoang8452 You’re so delicate 😂
@AnotherViewBot
@AnotherViewBot 14 дней назад
​@@anidiotmakesthings Says the self described idiot who couldn't let a stranger's joke go by without malding about it. Seek therapy.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 14 дней назад
@@anidiotmakesthings Oh no, wokey bot comes to wake craps! 🤡
@vertigovike7020
@vertigovike7020 14 дней назад
They locked the discussion topic 🤣🤣🤣
@christophbeck1305
@christophbeck1305 14 дней назад
was just about to tell them they lost a customer and that anouncment is locked and all discussion threads are nuked
@TheCleon
@TheCleon 14 дней назад
Doesn't seem very democratic to me
@magnusls
@magnusls 14 дней назад
@@TheCleon well it is not democracy, it's "managed democracy" so censorship and dystopia fits
@LeroxYT
@LeroxYT 14 дней назад
@@magnusls its not even that, Its just dictatorship
@strider029
@strider029 14 дней назад
It's still there. Click the "General Discussions" at the right. They fool you into thinking they locked it by redirecting you to a readme before seeing the community forums.
@Saufs0ldat
@Saufs0ldat 14 дней назад
Too bad, I was going to buy the game this weekend due to the hype, but now it's literally unplayable because I do not own or want to own a playstation or associated accounts.
@jpeg.jordaan
@jpeg.jordaan 14 дней назад
so i dont own a console but have no make a psn account to play going fwd to keep playing on steam? did i understand this correctly?
@MiseRaen
@MiseRaen 14 дней назад
Had the Sony Account be linking be mandatory on launch, Helldivers 2 won't have the same huge playerbase it has as today. This is just Sony's way of fishing players to inflate their numbers.
@gman2570
@gman2570 14 дней назад
It was mandatory on launch teh game itself and its steam page says a psn is required
@MrJinglejanglejingle
@MrJinglejanglejingle 14 дней назад
@@gman2570 Except it wasn't. It wasn't mandatory. It was optional. It always was optional.
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 14 дней назад
Shill confirmed.
@Boss-_
@Boss-_ 14 дней назад
​@@gman2570 then explain to me how I and all of my friends have been playing without PSN accounts
@legionofanon
@legionofanon 14 дней назад
​@@gman2570if you can bypass the linking and still play the game, that's is then not the definition of mandatory
@rahn45
@rahn45 14 дней назад
The odds of Sony being the one pushing this as a requirement? It's 100% right?
@Volfur2251
@Volfur2251 14 дней назад
pretty sure it was confirmed to be sony pushing a legal clause onto arrowhead for this..
@SUpahh100
@SUpahh100 14 дней назад
I heard it was always a thing they just didn't push it until now.
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 14 дней назад
Wouldn't be able to if Helldivers 2 devs didn't accept the bribe from them. They're all greedy.
@kev1nno
@kev1nno 14 дней назад
100%, yeah. Sony just started with the new PS overlay in Ghost of Tsushima as well that integrates the trophy system, so obviously Sony is making moves towards integrating their PC games with their existing ecosystem. And for an online game, that means requiring PSN, I guess
@user-bc2xc2vb9m
@user-bc2xc2vb9m 14 дней назад
Why would arrowhead want to push the requirement? It does not make any sense for them to do it.
@schaumboy11
@schaumboy11 14 дней назад
I’m a xbox player who’s been playing it on steam. Will i need to pay for the psn online service to be able to play as well or just need to make a psn account and all is good?
@mkv2718
@mkv2718 14 дней назад
well that was short ended kinda abruptly there.
@SquidElvis
@SquidElvis 14 дней назад
"Safety and security" rings a bit different after all those hacker breaches years ago...
@heavymetalmixer91
@heavymetalmixer91 14 дней назад
In a game about freedom, how ironic.
@waterloo32594
@waterloo32594 14 дней назад
Years ago? Bro, didn’t they get hacked AGAIN this year?
@youtubeenjoyer1743
@youtubeenjoyer1743 14 дней назад
It is about safety and security, because they are hard region locking all the bad players from all the bad countries like russia and China. It's nice to play a game knowing you don't entertain any invaders and socialists.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker 14 дней назад
"Safety and security" is corporate speak for "eff you and your dog too!"
@dumoneyyy
@dumoneyyy 14 дней назад
Man, when it rains, it pours. After farming Ws, Sony makes them take a MASSIVE L. What a damn shame
@dead5827
@dead5827 14 дней назад
sony is tired of taking them so they need to share :)
@kaidrazarc8000
@kaidrazarc8000 14 дней назад
It'll be a classic negotiation tactic of Sony throwing their weight around Sony "make it mandatory or we'll pull you off Playstation" Arrowhead should have called their bluff as that's backlash Sony would not want & not something they can BS their way out of
@dead5827
@dead5827 14 дней назад
@@kaidrazarc8000 if they made a legal argument about it they kinda have to do it can’t trust sony with anything
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 14 дней назад
​@@kaidrazarc8000Negotiations isn't Arrowhead's forte
@SweyzTristram
@SweyzTristram 14 дней назад
They farmed Ws at the release, they've been farming Ls since then. Arrowhead didn't make a single good decision since the game blew up. Almost 50 armors, 7 passives, half of them are useful. Weapons "balancing" absolutely destroying any form of fun in the game. Teasing a new faction and multiple new enemy units for the factions already there, not releasing any of that. Teased mechas and vehicles, we got a single mid mecha they nerfed to the ground. Their community managers are a bunch of angry fucks worse than the redditors they talk to. I like the game but let's be honest, Arrowhead is a terrible company.
@jazzyjswift
@jazzyjswift 14 дней назад
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. '
@utmastuh
@utmastuh 14 дней назад
Should only be required for those who do cross save
@beathammer7420
@beathammer7420 14 дней назад
"That grace period will now expire" in other words: players have been baited for long enough, time to reel them in.
@user-ff8rs7gk6r
@user-ff8rs7gk6r 14 дней назад
I'm spitting the hook.
@yeayeayea7619
@yeayeayea7619 14 дней назад
@@user-ff8rs7gk6r lmao
@augustday9483
@augustday9483 14 дней назад
Good thing I already got bored of Helldivers and stopped playing to go play other stuff on my backlog. Sony can shove it.
@NicholasBrakespear
@NicholasBrakespear 14 дней назад
Oh hell no. I went through this before with Rocket League - bought it on Steam, paid for it on Steam long before Epic came along... one day I start it up, and I'm hit with a screen saying I need to create or log into an Epic account to play the game I already bought. No option to quit, no option to cancel, had to Alt-F4 to get off the screen. As a matter of principle, haven't touched the game since. Loved the game, in spite of its dubious loot box stuff. Was waiting to buy Helldivers 2 until it was thoroughly patched up - I rarely buy games at launch now. Really wanted to play this. Speaking as an indie developer/author with a game and books on Steam, and a big fan of Steam's service both from the developer side and the customer side... yeah, Steam policy needs to change when it comes to games pulling a Darth Vader and changing the deal after the fact. If they do something that changes the fundamental nature of how you access the game, Valve/Steam itself should get involved somehow.
@DonJohn87_YT
@DonJohn87_YT 14 дней назад
100%
@kittehgo
@kittehgo 14 дней назад
You should be happy they don't alter the deal further I guess
@gman2570
@gman2570 14 дней назад
Always been a requirment trialers and steam page state PSN is required they didnt pull a darth vbader people jsut didnt fucking read
@Sleepyhead080808
@Sleepyhead080808 14 дней назад
It's kinda funny to me that you're an indie developer and yet didn't buy the game on launch. You know it doesn't get fixed if nobody plays it, right? You're just pawning the task off onto others and reaping the benefits. I would expect that from your standard selfish know-nothing gamer, but not someone whose livelihood depends on those first few downloads to make a living.
@NofirstnameNolastname
@NofirstnameNolastname 14 дней назад
​@@Sleepyhead080808 So when you're a dev you are now forced to buy all games you like on release? 😂
@andreasnorberg8285
@andreasnorberg8285 14 дней назад
Changing things after the fact is practically Unheard of
@aflack482
@aflack482 14 дней назад
This is absolutely a Sony move and not a arrowhead move
@Xaza00
@Xaza00 14 дней назад
New Major Order : Uninstall and Refund
@lovisericachii4503
@lovisericachii4503 14 дней назад
Lemme nu if u are able to refund.... how to refund dis shet from steam?
@rollyrollybrocolly2204
@rollyrollybrocolly2204 14 дней назад
Im doing my part
@SusuBlackSwan-or2px
@SusuBlackSwan-or2px 14 дней назад
Damn The Automatons Did it Again ...
@Touched_by_a_12_gauge
@Touched_by_a_12_gauge 14 дней назад
Y'all didn't see that bait and switch coming...😂🤣
@gemstonegynoid7475
@gemstonegynoid7475 14 дней назад
if PSN was required, and a PSN could only be made in specific countries, the game shouldve been region locked from the start then.
@Soliye.
@Soliye. 14 дней назад
Is Sony seriously gonna do this to HellDivers? “Wow, they managed to make a game that surpasses our expectations, let’s ruin it”. I don’t even have a PSN account. Just let us enjoy the damn game ffs
@isrmwrd
@isrmwrd 14 дней назад
They want that sweet evaluation for investors
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 14 дней назад
Super Earth has fallen. Game is now utterly fucked. Nothing good lasts, I guess.
@hexdontae
@hexdontae 14 дней назад
Jfc can you people be more dramatic? Burner email > PSN account > play game.
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 14 дней назад
​@@hexdontaeIn some countries you can't even do that
@hexdontae
@hexdontae 14 дней назад
@@Psycorde Hell yeah! It'll the high-ping players out of my missions.
@apunishedmannamed2473
@apunishedmannamed2473 14 дней назад
@@hexdontae So you're saying if you aren't from the US, Canada or first world Euro countries, you don't have a right to play the game you purchased? A PVE game, no less?
@CardinalCake
@CardinalCake 14 дней назад
@@hexdontaeyour IQ is room temp.
@catcollision8371
@catcollision8371 14 дней назад
"It's for your own safety." -Governments, Sony
@Gotu963
@Gotu963 13 дней назад
the thing when u launched hl2 for the first time there was a pop up about psn connection
@majones117
@majones117 14 дней назад
Damn, im curious what this will do to the player numbers. Sony out here putting Helldivers 2 on the altar for sacrifice.
@Warfoki
@Warfoki 14 дней назад
Honestly? Probably not much. Maybe it dips a bit, but if you look at the change in numbers a year down the line, it's going to be a minor blip. Steam page always had the PSN account warning, so nothing changes for new buyers. And as for current players, the overwhelming majority of the people who spent dozens of hours having fun with the game, isn't going to stop doing that, and will just spend a single minute setting up an account. Sure, nobody likes it, it gets a big backlash, but I'd be seriously surprised if this translated to a lasting, large drop in player numbers.
@georgewash8926
@georgewash8926 14 дней назад
​@@WarfokiYou are probably right... which is even more infuriating because it means their little trick will pay off. Encouraging them to try it again next time as well. I'd love to be proven wrong though... just this one time...
@NuchiAsaki
@NuchiAsaki 14 дней назад
A small decrease due to players in some countries not being able to make PSN accounts. The vast majority of players, including those complaining about this, will make a PSN account or use the one they already have. Gamers love eating shit and being trampled on.
@nidungr3496
@nidungr3496 14 дней назад
Player numbers are already collapsing after two garbage nerf patches.
@Warfoki
@Warfoki 14 дней назад
@@nidungr3496 Ehh, I admittedly wasn't playing when the first one dropped, but as a daily player now, this second nerf wasn't all that big of a deal. Also, the game dropping in numbers from the crazy opening week was to be expected. If the game would be a flop, we'd see 90%+ drops, like with any other flopped live service game. But instead we see about 60%, which is fairly normal. If the game gets regular actual content updates, it has long legs to stand on. If it doesn't, it'll die to people getting bored. Either way, this current drama will be largely inconsequential.
@JamieHitt
@JamieHitt 14 дней назад
This may very well be remembered as "a big mistake".
@JanstonCordell
@JanstonCordell 14 дней назад
The ol' bait & switch
@roqeyt3566
@roqeyt3566 14 дней назад
I was willing to look past the kernel level anti cheat, but this, yea I'm glad I was waiting on a sale Pass.
@BlindJustice9
@BlindJustice9 14 дней назад
Here we go. Escape from Helldivers
@Jivyachi
@Jivyachi 14 дней назад
Fun fact in Australia if a product has a massive change before you bought it you can have a refund under Australian consumer law Example requiring a account to play the game now
@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 14 дней назад
You mean after you buy it? And the game literally said a PSN account was required to play when you first started the game.
@legionofanon
@legionofanon 14 дней назад
​@@bellidrael7457if you can bypass the linking and still play the game, that is definitely not the definition of required
@BlazeDeval
@BlazeDeval 14 дней назад
​@@bellidrael7457People keep saying that yet neither myself or my friends ever got the PSN acount required shit.
@ozylocz4078
@ozylocz4078 14 дней назад
@@bellidrael7457 except it was never required. I’ve played well over 100 hours without a psn account. I will try very hard to pursue a refund. I hope others do as well.
@tazn1
@tazn1 14 дней назад
It's not a massive change - also its mentioned on the product page since day one that you need a PSN account lmao
@sierramike0913
@sierramike0913 14 дней назад
Hilariously, the topic generated by that news post is already locked. 15 pages (of 50 per page) and they decided to not have the discussion anymore.
@Cress.afterschool
@Cress.afterschool 14 дней назад
The guy requesting for a Bikini Armor 💀💀💀
@pierrostation
@pierrostation 14 дней назад
Actually the most sane diver about this topic
@shaggybaggums
@shaggybaggums 14 дней назад
Just as long as you keep the helmet, otherwise it's just immersion breaking.
@Kaindred
@Kaindred 14 дней назад
Why stop there...let's link to every service to ensure that we are as safe as possible.
@Matt-iq7ci
@Matt-iq7ci 14 дней назад
I don't know why but it made me giggle, thanks man
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 14 дней назад
I mean l...... u do, phone interview net, steam. Ea , blizzard psn, Xbox he'll even ur bank account for direct deposit....... So what's the real issue here? Or just more fake pc peasant out rage?
@amprobaconhair2722
@amprobaconhair2722 13 дней назад
At this point it's guaranteed that Sony did that just because they were mad that HD2 made more money than than MW3, and also to prolly sell that juicy user data to China
@Arsenic71
@Arsenic71 14 дней назад
Wait, it says 'As such, as of May 6th, all NEW Helldivers 2 players ......'
@rhaven090
@rhaven090 14 дней назад
First Stellar blade, then Tsukihime remake, now Helldivers? Tf is Sony doing?
@Einscrest
@Einscrest 14 дней назад
Not surprising at all. Sony has been doing this since they moved to California.
@Hengilore
@Hengilore 14 дней назад
They wanted to commit sudoku but they also want to make everyone watch and feel it
@GrimOfLight
@GrimOfLight 14 дней назад
​@@HengiloreGood old math
@rsmith8113
@rsmith8113 14 дней назад
Sony has fallen
@NuchiAsaki
@NuchiAsaki 14 дней назад
Whatever they can to fuck with you. Stop supporting them.
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