Unfortunately that house was lost when you arrived. Almost fully involved, long distance for responding units, limited manpower, no water supply. Control utilities, protect exposures. Thanks for posting your videos. I’m a retired career captain (39 years) and sometimes we forget about the difficulties and challenges our rural brothers and sisters face with limited resources. Our strategic goal is to deliver 4 engines, 1 truck, 2 medic units, 2 battalion chiefs and a safety officer in 12 minutes to a structure fire in city limits, 23-26 people on a first alarm assignment. We forget sometimes about how lucky we are to be able to have this available to us. You do it for no pay, with limited resources to help your neighbors and community. They are lucky to have such a dedicated firefighter.
This one you were right there was nobody home so it burnt for a little while my father happened to see the smoke from a mile away and called me even if I would have been driving an engine when I got there like you said there was nothing we could have done it was just on the edge of our area of responsibility our closest station was 7 miles their closest station was like 13 talk about a helpless feeling I did the best I could with what I had shut off the propane killed the power made sure the best I could that there was no one there gave as many hugs to the property owners as I could the last couple of years I've been trying to build a better relationship with the other County so we can work together better like you said we're all brothers and sisters in this thanks for watching
How difficult/expensive is it to install a fire hydrant outside a rural home? Or if it's lakeside and not frozen, can fire engines pump from there? I want to buy a remote house and have these concerns.
@@19irving it can be very difficult, if you don’t have a water main nearby. Most rural areas have wells that provide 5-15 gallons per minute with electricity provided by the property owner, typically from the breaker panel within the house. A farm might have a larger well to provide irrigation. Most rural water supplies for firefighting come from a cistern (a buried water tank) with a connection for the fire department to draft from. Some areas have drafting systems fitted to a nearby lake or pond which can provide water. Most departments that rely on rural water supplies carry a list of nearby areas to get water from, but this requires time to travel to and from the refilling location, plus additional resources. Basically if you live in a rural area, you are generally further from fire department resources, as a home owner you really need to pay attention to your own fire hazards and protection. Most rural departments are volunteer, meaning that it’s your neighbors that come to help. Nationally volunteer departments are having difficulty staffing and may not have enough volunteers that they need. It’s a lot of extra work to volunteer, there are multiple certifications to earn, ongoing training that’s required, plus time away from family to do all of this. My best advice is to make sure you have smoke detectors, a monitored system can be your eyes and ears while you are not home and summon help. Having fire extinguishers available will provide limited firefighting capability for small fires, make sure to buy a decent size extinguisher(s), there no point taking a puny extinguisher to a battle. If you live in an area surrounded by brush or trees, make sure you maintain defensible space, in other words keep the brush and trees cut back away from your house and buildings, in the event of a brush fire it will reduce it’s spread towards your structures. I’ve seen subdivisions saved simply because someone mowed the brush adjoining the subdivisions down. When the approaching fire got to the mowed grass, it lost its intensity, and was easily extinguished by the firefighters with a brush truck.
Richard, regardless of the challenges you face, you always go in to do your job. You are the definition of "hero" in my book. This world would be a much better place with more people like you. Thank you
I’m a rural firefighter and we cover roughly 250 square miles in our fire district !. We have limited resources, not many want to volunteer now days, also our water supply is 1 2500 gallon tanker , if we run out we will draft from farmers ponds or creeks and streams if need be..
I have fire sprinklers. The average cost to install a residential fire sprinkler system in new builds is about $1.35 per square foot - or $3,375 for a 2,500-square-foot home. The average cost to construct a 2,600-square-foot home is about $296,000 - or about $114 per square foot. Do the math!
As a former fire fighter I hate too see anyone lose their home. If you choose to live away from a city you should check on where your closest fire department is and how they are equipped. If long way off I’d invest in a home sprinkler system.
Any home in rural areas should always consider sprinkler systems with independent heads. That or dry chem to smother it out. It would be nice to know what issue there was with the electrical if indeed it was. I'd would almost bet it was.
We always had issues with water supply in my former Fire Department in fact they still do. 23 minutes to load a 3500 gallon used milk truck from a well because nobody had the foresight to put in a large volume cistern to draw from. So usually if we couldn't put it out with what we had on the trucks it was lost.
Jeez and I thought 13 minutes to load ours was long. I love running the tank but I hate that feeling just sitting there waiting on the tank to fill. We started running multiple stock pools here a few years back and we can usually keep those full between the 3 tankers depending if mutual aid is pulling off them as well, if they’re pulling as well we usually gotta hustle those tanks to keep up
Wow! Horrible fire. I’d never live in an area without fire hydrants. Too scary! My parents house caught fire in 2006. Arc at the fuse box caused by power being restored after an outage. I’ll never forget the smell
Yea that house is gone when you arrived. Glad to see that you tried to do something it's just some fires are out of control fast. I've fought alot of fires and hell so have u it stinks when people lose everything always feel like there is more I could have done.
For sure I will always do everything I can fight to the bitter end you never know what you might save that might mean the world to someone that has just lost everything
I belonged to a VFD in suburban and Rural areas. Suburban: 4 engines 2 ladders hydrants every 50 yards, coverage 1 1/2 sq. miles. Rural 2 engines 1 tanker no hydrants, coverage 63 sq. miles. completely different animal. Hindsight: Fire pond, pump, sprinkler system and alarm.
you should talk to chief and see if he will build you a fire hall out by your property and you can do some recruiting for 5mile quarter around your area
It was a really sad deal. House is only 2 miles from my house and it's also probably two hundred yards from I-70 my dad happened to see the smoke from his house that's a mile away call me not knowing what was on fire I grabbed my fire rig along my driveway and took off not knowing what was on fire when he got there and called 911 nobody had called yet by the time I got there even if I would have been driving an engine there was nothing I could have done to stop it talk about feeling helpless I tried to do the best I could to make sure no one was inside and getting things prepped like shutting off the gas
21;48 I feel bad saying this when someone's home is burning but man that is a sweet old freightliner flc super rare truck nowadays. Thank god no one was home when the fire happened
Crazy how fast a fire can spread. Homes in rural areas should have a sprinkler system. A bit too late when someone happens to drive by and see the fire.
Do you believe that a city fire department could have saved this house? Once a fire grows beyond a certain point no fire department can prevent the house from being a total ruin.
If this house would have been in the city possibly but no one was home and by the time people saw smoke and call it in it was too late I live two miles from this house and even if I would have been driving one of our engines when I got on scene I still would not have been able to stop it
Three competent humans with 500 gallons of tank water could have stopped the immediate threat and extension through the CORRECT and SURGICAL application of that water. 99.99% of USA departments have no clue what that means and couldn't CARE less.
That’s quite doubtful, especially given the size and spread of the fire along with wind driven conditions. The roof was caving in basically at the time this gentleman arrived near the origin area. Anybody can make claims but it’s basically impossible to ever know. 3 ff’s would have a heck of a time on a large home like that to make a stop.
Sadly enough smoke damage from a single room and contents fire means gutting most of the house if not the entire house down to bare stud and all insulation. Homeowner is out of the house until build back is complete. Loss of any family animals is heartbreaking been there with families that have lost:/ 10 years volunteer.
You must have felt very helpless watching that fire destroy that beautiful huge house. WHAT took so long for the trucks to arrive? Is Lincoln County a rural area??
This house is very rural it lies just out of our area of responsibilities our nearest station is 7 Miles there nearest station is 13 and no one was home to call it in my father happened to see the smoke and called me and no one had called it in yet so it has been burning for a minute
Fire sprinklers are so cheap. I'm not sure why they aren't required for new builds. The piping is orange CPVC and it's so easy to install. Depending on the home, but for under $5k, a complete system can be installed in a new build. A retro fit is under $10k.
Everyone was volunteer it was just out of my area of jurisdiction their nearest station was 11 miles we ended up coming to help our closest station was 7 no one was home and no one called it in for quite a while
@@jrockyhill it’s a shame when responding is hindered by distance like that ! I put 35 yrs in a volunteer department and we are very fortunate to have very short travel time in our county with all departments the only thing that slows us down is membership as in who’s home to respond! Good video and good luck in the future !
Based on starting position and layout, that house would have been lost, even if they raced to the scene in a Lamborghini, with their gear ready. At least the tricycle didn't burn!
Every property that is outside of 20 miles from a fire department needs a 500 gallon water tank on the property with generator and enough hose line for the property. Not just for wild fires but for this structure fire 🔥
500 gallons will last about 5-7 minutes with a 1.75" hose line at 106psi, which is the standard for 200ft of 1.75". You'll need a fire pump, not a generator to push that amount of water. You ain't putting out that fire with 500 gallons. Especially with someone that doesn't know what they're doing.
@@jimclaytor9834 A water source would help. 500gal might put out a room and contents, by someone that knows what they're doing. My department had 1500 gal/min hydrants every 500 yards or so. This house still would have burned to the ground. That's my experience. If your rural house catches on fire, expect it to be a total lose. Fyi, the guy filming probably had a 100gpm hose and it did nothing. 100gpm x 500 gallons? Not trying to be a dick. Just realistic. Peace.
You can get used above ground pools for free or for cheap. Cover it with a trap and you are ready for a fire. A specially constructed structure would cost a lot of money that few people would consider.
I don't believe anyone from anywhere ever heard the gun fire,the home was destroyed before any sign from fire department.it was definitely a sad day in that neighborhood
Sorry to see this happening to a friend. Lost my 23yr old niece in a house fire in 2019. I have trouble watching these type videos. Hope everyone is ok. 🙏🙏
Lincoln County New Mexico? It's hard to watch and not be able to do something. Been there, done that. Yes, it was gone before help arrived. It was a surround and drown situation.
It was actually a cool house the main part of the house is pushing 100 years old some friends of ours who used to live there completely remodeled it it really was a beautiful home
I think that house is a total loss. There was nothing you can do. I think next time you better install sprinkler system. The chances a fire department helping would be pretty minimal out in the boondocks.
When you live in a very rural area, fire and police service may be a long time getting to you; it's the price you pay not living in an urban or suburban area.
I was in a little bit of disbelief this house is about a hundred yards from I-70 my dad lives a mile away and happen to come outside and see smoke call me to see if anything was burning we both drove all the way there and were the first ones to call it in by that time it was too far gone
The first fire truck that showed up I jumped on the first line and ran that line until my bunker gear showed up and then I continued running that line until I almost passed out took a break and went back in and started mucking things out hard to tell all that from a camera that's clear in the back
GPMs vs BTUs. He wouldnt have near enough water or pressure with his pickup pump and tank to stop a fire in that advanced stage of the burn. Pretty easy to see
A whole lot of Defeatists commenting here. Not one commentor that could come up with a way to save some unburned property like inside that second-floor room or the basement. Nonthinkers are so willing to just write the structure off because they have No Clue on how to stop the threat. 20:42 You park an engine with at least 500 gallons of onboard water, upwind of the structure, pull one 2.5" line to the windows on the left, adjust the nozzle to a tight cone of water and coat the contents of the room. Then you move to the right and go room to room to eliminate the heat that is causing the fire to spread through the rest of the structure by the wind. As more units arrive, you continue to eliminate the threat, not just squirt water at the flames and smoke. You also don't try to stop the fire AT the unburned area while you allow the inferno behind it to be driven into the unburned areas through your feeble protective line. Now, compare my comment to every other one here. Notice how Richard only had excuses to offer after his 39-year career but he sure could offer you a pep talk with all the "Brother and Sister" BS! A strong and responsible WORK ETHIC would have been nice, Richard.
@@JB91710 I do own something but that's irrelevant. What unburned area are you talking about? The untouched second floor at the beginning of the video?
@@shawnc1016 I spelled that out in my first comment. The Job of a fire department is to stop the threat. It doesn't matter what the extent of damage is. If there is any property to be saved, they must save it Any department that doesn't have that work ethic, is doing no more than showing up and there isn't anything even competent in that let alone heroic.
