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Here's how a 4x4 Jeep Wrangler Transmission Works 

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@gabrielpuebla5930
@gabrielpuebla5930 Год назад
Imagine the mind of the man who had to design the valve body. Absolutely fascinating.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
I'm sure a computer designed it!
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies Год назад
its not that complex kid. its not one man that designs it all.
@gabrielpuebla5930
@gabrielpuebla5930 Год назад
@@mann_idonotreadreplies I bet you're fun at parties
@johnw3379
@johnw3379 Год назад
The computer should make it reliable
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 Год назад
I think most inventions are incremental involving building on the work of others, so it's unlikely the valve body just popped into existence in one go. And yes, I'm literally not fun at parties. 😂😂😂
@colchronic
@colchronic Год назад
Still sounds like black magic to me
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Haha
@sheffun1ted
@sheffun1ted Год назад
You my friend are a mechanical genius. I love your videos and learn so much
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
"The eight gears here are for fuel efficiency" lolol 😂 Gotta achieve that 18 mpg!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Yeah especially when people are lugging around these 4x4's
@josuerod9997
@josuerod9997 Год назад
Bro this guy has too much knowledge I’ve been watching him for years subscribe to this dude he deserves more!
@nateflorea9009
@nateflorea9009 Год назад
I was about to ask if it's a ZF transmission, but I've read about it and it seems that it's a ZF transmission made in collaboration with Chrysler, and it's one of the better transmissions when it comes to not only reliability but also efficiency and smoothness
@nateflorea9009
@nateflorea9009 Год назад
Also despite it's lower weight than the competition it's very good for towing
@fordfiveohh
@fordfiveohh Год назад
Yeah I'm not crazy about the 948 TE ( I think that's the one) in the Jeep Compass and the Jeep Cherokee. ZF can make some fabulous transmissions, But so far the only fabulous ones I've seen were for rear wheel drive applications.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Exactly. The rwd ones are more robust.
@ccloutiutube
@ccloutiutube Год назад
The ZF transmission is definitely the most reliable part in my wife's 2007 BMW 335i with the N54.
@markhalden3922
@markhalden3922 Год назад
From my limited research, the 392 uses the proper ZF, no idea what shares it.
@zaraak323i
@zaraak323i Год назад
Automatic transmissions are black magic. I'll grind my gears myself, thankyouverymuch! 😃
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc Год назад
Nah, not at all. They just look scary but you get used to it quick. That valve body is massive tho. Now microwave radio is some black magic. Heck even gravity, magnetism, and time. Oh, and any maths i cannot comprehend yet
@zaraak323i
@zaraak323i Год назад
I've watched enough Precision Transmission to know, leave it to him!
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Год назад
Meh, its just two fans slinging fluid around, and some other stuff.🤣🤣
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It can appear daunting at first. But start with one planetary gear set and understand it's ratios and soon you'll nest them together and watch as they multiply
@beny8
@beny8 Год назад
yea, even the dual clutch automatic seems way more straightforward compared to this
@kingdaddymaster5094
@kingdaddymaster5094 Год назад
Can you please make a Toyota Prius 2023 full in depth mechanical review and showcase all the new changes for the new generation? That would be an amazing video!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It sure would. I have to get my hands on one.
@humorss
@humorss Год назад
I have never been able to understand how the zf8 work exactly. its a stack of gear clutch and cage stacked together. so neat and compact.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It sure is compacted in there!
@TonyLing
@TonyLing Год назад
You must never run dry of spare bolts
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
I have shelves full of them. I throw the odd stuff (Volkswagen torx, rusty Chrysler, and imperial GM) stuff out and keep the Japanese brand metric bolts for later.
@jonnijames
@jonnijames Год назад
AHahahah my god brother, you were right, check out the 8speed jeep auto trans and wow i think its more complicated than the CVT transmission now that i think about it, coming away from this i have learnt that you are the G.O.A.T of all time mechanic, explaining that auto trans like it was childs play just blew my mind, love ya brother! :)
@vVeazel
@vVeazel Год назад
Surprised to not see the precision rotary snap ring removal tool come out.
@fordfiveohh
@fordfiveohh Год назад
This guy is sort of like a doctor practicing on a cadaver. One of the smartest people I've ever met made straight A's his whole life - even through a masters degree in math. Even that guy said automatic transmissions make his brain hurt
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It sure is complex!!
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 Год назад
The humans responsible for inventing the automatic transmission must have been certified geniuses. I struggle with how bicycle gears work. 😂
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It sure is interesting! However this is evolutionary... It starts with one planetary gear set and stacks up. I'm sure computer design helps!
@iroekyjHD
@iroekyjHD Год назад
to be honest, its really cool that bikes just drop chains onto different sprockets lol
@mnmz6934
@mnmz6934 2 месяца назад
My Jeep Wrangler's ZF 850RE transmission has an intermittent bearing noise (sounds like a cat screeching or a zip sound) and only happens when the transmission fluid temp is above 150F and on 1st and 2nd gear. Dealer gave me the can't replicate noise bullcrap. Should I fear for my transmission to go out soon or is this a normal characteristic of the ZF transmission in the jeeps? Vehicle is driving fine, no slipping or anything unusual. TIA
@rajanjagtap8502
@rajanjagtap8502 Год назад
🙏How efforts you do disassemble this 👏 really informative videos thankyou
@vladdutz20
@vladdutz20 Год назад
As far as i know the torqueflite branded transmissions have zf8hp internals in a custom chrysler jeep housing Also the oil pan seems metal
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Makes sense
@pgilb70
@pgilb70 Год назад
Geniuses design this stuff.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Hey it's not that hard once you break everything down.
@regperatrovich9406
@regperatrovich9406 Год назад
That looks like an absolute nightmare to service.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Usually you just replace them
@greathey1234
@greathey1234 Год назад
10:18 lol
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
🤣
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 Год назад
Wow, no wonder techs don't want to rebuild transmissions anymore. What year and milage on that??
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
2018 Jeep JL. Didn't get mileage information.
@rvarsigfusson6163
@rvarsigfusson6163 Месяц назад
This ZF HP8 is in a lot of cars..... Wrangler, VW Amarok, Range Rover, BMW X5 and nad..... But the question is if it will help to swap an engine from one to another car..... just thinking. Come with your thoughts about that........
@Migmaqiw
@Migmaqiw 5 месяцев назад
I had a rock prevent my transmission from shifting into park the other day… I have a 2024 2dr Willys… trying to figure out where this rock landed and prevented the shift. Any insight?
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 5 месяцев назад
Definitely on the shifter cable or shaft.
@davem.539
@davem.539 Месяц назад
Any idea why my zf850re with 60k on it would slip out of reverse backing out of my garage? I put my foot on the brake and it will just pop out of reverse?
@ahmedalkhatib1410
@ahmedalkhatib1410 Год назад
Went through it fast appreciate consistency though...
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks
@EnergySeeker
@EnergySeeker Год назад
great video as usual
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks
@manuelli1294
@manuelli1294 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the interesting video. Please, do you know how to tell if my WK2 has ZF845RE or ZF850RE?
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 Год назад
Your a sharp dude. How many miles typically do those clutch packs last?
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks. There's no mileage set for a transmission, it's based on wear and tear and useage
@RolandoMarreroPR
@RolandoMarreroPR Год назад
Holy washers Batman! A manual transmission is like 4 gears and two washers!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Haha true. Much simpler
@josegarciaatencio7274
@josegarciaatencio7274 4 месяца назад
Great video. I have a question for you hopefully you can reply : ). I serviced my transmission recently. Oil change and oil pan change. After that was done the transmission has a very mild whining noise going from 1st gear to 2nd gear this sound was not present before doing the service. I'm concern about the noice but the mechanic that did the service says is "normal" in this type of transmission is that true? I'm worried my transmission will die eventually and that this can be prevented. Thank you in advance. I drive a Jeep Wrangler JL with this automatic transmission.
@masoudshaghaghi5744
@masoudshaghaghi5744 Год назад
My wrangler 23 has abrupt downshift 3 to 2 sometimes, especially on hard braking, most of the time is ok but absolutely not like other SUVs, is it the nature of 850 RE or it has a problem? Only 15000 miles on it
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
No, take it back to the dealer and have them flash the transmission controller.
@Pinkielover
@Pinkielover Год назад
Junk would be awesome to see you melt it down
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It's already at the scrapper
@supamannn99
@supamannn99 Год назад
Why would they not put a drain port?
@neilwalker8686
@neilwalker8686 Год назад
It’s considered a sealed unit filled for life. The life expectancy is the warranty period.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Less chance someone will put the wrong fluid in. So dumb
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 Год назад
For once you used one of your old clothes as a rag.😂 Good info in the video, as always. 👍
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Haha yep. Found an old disqualified pair of pants for this one
@notsoserious0944
@notsoserious0944 Год назад
Mind boggling.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
If sure is
@nickchannel5364
@nickchannel5364 Год назад
If I had as much money as I do interest in speedkar channel, I would send him fancy engines to explore.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Please send
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 Год назад
I wanna send him a Ford "Barra" inline 6, one of the best engines Ford ever made. But i'd have to sell a kidney to afford the shipping from NZ to the U.S.😆
@jorenethmanangkila9223
@jorenethmanangkila9223 Год назад
Thank you
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Welcome
@josuerod9997
@josuerod9997 Год назад
I also like how he replies to everyone
@juandenz2008
@juandenz2008 Год назад
Interesting, but it made my head explode ! Imagine the brains of the people who first came up with these ideas.
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones Год назад
ZF transmissions in chrysler cars are license built by chrysler. The zf units used by other OEMs are built in ZFs south carolina factory. The 9 speed Honda uses is the same as the one Nissan uses and theyre built there but the same unit used in fca vehicles like the 9 speed in the cherokee are built by chrysler. Not suprising the chrysler built units have a worse reliability record.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks for the info...good to know
@mahmoodghorbani8329
@mahmoodghorbani8329 Год назад
دمه بچه های تورنتو گرم.خسته نباشی و ممنون از بابت ویدیو. 👍👍👍
@davemarks7322
@davemarks7322 Год назад
Superfrikkingcomplicated. Other auto components are simple by comparison. Very interesting video; now let's see you reassemble it (haha).
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks. I like to break stuff, not put it back together haha
@joebaucom4537
@joebaucom4537 Год назад
Great !
@dragancrnogorac3851
@dragancrnogorac3851 Год назад
4 clutch packaging... I think 8 gears should be on 40 ton truck. I can live with 6 gears just fine
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
I feel like after 6-8 gears it's enough. Fuel economy doesn't take a drastic downturn after that
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 Год назад
yo Kar, what's your opinion or thoughts on the bucket lifters on older Toyotas like 5sfe. I changed my valve cover gasket and was staring at my valve train. since they're sitting on shims do they ever need adjusted? it has 240k on it, runs fine but I really think it could run a bit more peppy. Its not a fast engine by any means.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Technically they need to be adjusted but no one does because there isn't much need to tear down the engine that far. I much prefer the bucket design over the more complex roller rocker arm setup. It's more simple 😊
@151bradhatt
@151bradhatt Год назад
How many forward gears are there?
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Eight
@iroekyjHD
@iroekyjHD Год назад
what a nightmare of a transmission, I think ill stick to buying 2005's and paying for slightly lower mpg
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Good idea
@Aleks_Mechanics
@Aleks_Mechanics Год назад
Notification Squad!🔥🔥🔥
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Thanks!!
@PSWii360onBaSS
@PSWii360onBaSS Год назад
10:46 Part of the reason why neutral drops are bad for your health.
@johnraley5713
@johnraley5713 Год назад
Want me to put it back together for you? 😆
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
I'd love to see that!
@tunespt
@tunespt Год назад
Brilliant piece of engineering... But I prefer manuals :)
@glock18supercharger
@glock18supercharger Год назад
My pink brush Thanks 😂✌️
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Welcome
@edwardranno7119
@edwardranno7119 Год назад
I can’t believe how complicated transmissions are,I bet the people who invented it went crazy
@Pinkielover
@Pinkielover Год назад
It's over complicated for a reason so the average person can't repair it
@edwardranno7119
@edwardranno7119 Год назад
@@Pinkielover there is no possible way I could fix that!! I would be willing to bet top mechanics couldn’t fix it either
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies Год назад
complicated because you dont understand it. and this is FCA 8 speed not the more reliable toyota 8 speed. FCA is garbage.
@edwardranno7119
@edwardranno7119 Год назад
@@mann_idonotreadreplies my dad was an inventor of complicated equipment in the printing business,I learned a lot from him,I can’t imagine the first few people trying to get the transmission to work
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Yes and no. This is based off of an evolution of automatic transmissions...they added an extra planetary gear set which gave the full 8 speeds.
@kclefthanded427
@kclefthanded427 Год назад
It's like slamming 2 GM 4L60-E in a smaller package
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Kinda
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones Год назад
I miss 4 speed units.
@TheXextreem
@TheXextreem Год назад
This looks so complicated. If you got something broken just replace the whole thing lol.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
That's the society we live in
@ronsereda4242
@ronsereda4242 Год назад
Pardon me. Would you mind repeating that. (joke ) Wow, your most complex explanation yet. Was there an identifiable failure reason why this transmission was taken out of service? Clutch packs, valve body or solenoids should be repairable, or not? Coincidentally about an hour before this video came up I just had forked out $321 for the one piece pan/filter and $220 for 4.7 litres of fluid for a similar 8 speed ZF in 2017 Grand Cherokee. $601 with tax!!!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
The engine attached to it wore though its camshafts so I bought them both. See my last video on pentastar engine.
@markwilliams2620
@markwilliams2620 Год назад
Glad I stopped with TH350's.
@victorwilks88
@victorwilks88 Год назад
Looks like it gives problems 😮
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Most rwd transmissions are laid out this way
@ryanwiles6255
@ryanwiles6255 Год назад
"Yah I was cheating, this is the diagram I was using while disassembling" -- bro that was one diagram that explained literally nothing.
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Sorry
@ryanwiles6255
@ryanwiles6255 Год назад
@@speedkar99 no I meant it as in I didn’t think you were cheating at all lol. You basically just took apart an engine with no reference.
@jackblackmamba3465
@jackblackmamba3465 Год назад
Obvious Colgate product placement
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Haha
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy Год назад
None of the components look very durable. Really thin metal everywhere. I guess that's the price you pay for all those gears. The more gears, the smaller and thinner/weaker everything is.
@humorss
@humorss Год назад
when in use they are fine as the structures support each other. but taken apart for service and reassembly the barrel gears with very thin walls get damaged by hand tools easily.
@jamesreno3321
@jamesreno3321 Год назад
This is a lot to take in, but I honestly don't find it too hard to understand. It's really the same mechanical concepts repeated over several times, with a few changes for each gear ratio. I study engineering, so that probably helps, but if you're mechanically inclined, I'd say it looks worse than it really is because of the number of parts. Not saying I'd want to work on that though 😂 And designing it probably required some ridiculous brain power
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
I agree. It's not that difficult once you break it down. Everything is just sacked and multiplied which makes it seem puzzling
@markhalden3922
@markhalden3922 Год назад
The general operation is pretty straight forward but it's all the small things that make them space magic. The electrohydro units make sense, it's the pre 1990 pure hydraulic units, the engineers that designed those are fucking wizards.
@Nesylver
@Nesylver Год назад
This thing is a mechanical nightmare!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
To rebuild it might be daunting but most will just replace it.
@Nesylver
@Nesylver Год назад
@@speedkar99 I'm in agreement
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies Год назад
and FCA sucks!
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
Sure....
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 Год назад
Speedkar99, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us Speedkar99 👍 QUICK-WITTED Speedkar99 From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 20:10pm
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
You are welcome!
@bigniqqa4511
@bigniqqa4511 Год назад
I wanna see the massive brain on the guy who thought of this concept. an actual mechanical marvel of engineering. its a shame they chew away at power output, otherwise theyd be perfect
@speedkar99
@speedkar99 Год назад
It sure is mind boggling. However this is an evolutionary design, not thought up in one sitting
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