Again just to reiterate best video ever. I have watched a couple on this Gyro and people skip lile five steps. You show and tell exactly where to plug everything in on the receiver and the Gyro in great detail. And go through everything step-by-step. Not only talking about it but showing you in real time. I wish you would make videos on other setups on other things just like this because this is the best informative video out there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you
Hello, I know thst this an old thread, i have the f- 22 raptor 64mm high performance model.. i also have the spectrum dx6i controller, what gyro would you recommend for beginners , and setup??
Awesome video! I would never been able to have set up that gyro correctly without your help! Now my BH L-39 is ready to fly. I really appreciate you guys for taking the time to make these videos just to help us pilots out. Motion r c's customer support is unrivaled.
Last weekend I maidened the FMS Beaver V2 using this Hobbyeagle AL-3 gyro . First using 25% gain as you suggested. Worked fine. Then moved the gain to 50% and the bird flew flawlessly. After that dialed the gyro to 75% gain and was even more stable with high winds , but at full throttle the Beavers tail began oscillating. So went back to 50% and that is my setting for the plane. Also using the on/off function on a two position switch. Dual rates work perfectly too. Very very important to follow instructions in the manual and watch this video is a must. Also making sure of the surfaces directions on both the receiver and gyro ( after installing it of course). Thanks for your info, video and tips.
I have The FMS V1 and intend on using it into mine. Someone wired in God knows what in mine, I brought is of Market place and drove 50 miles to get it. They added things I do not even recognize. I think it's a capacitor for the ESC and something for voltage regulation for the lights. I looks like a spaghetti farm in mine. I intend to strip everything out and redo what they have simply because the set up is messy and I dont even have room for the Stability system with all the junk that's in it.
@@scottfirman good idea. I removed the multiconnector inside the Beaver. Rewired everything the old fashion and easy way. Now I have bigger interior space and everything organized. Clean set up
I'm a LEMON or AR600's AS3X guy but, recently I go a 8 channel receiver with no stabilization and, I decided to give a chance to this product. EXCELLENT video description!!! Thank you so MUCH :)
Thank you brother. Its not like the package comes with any kind of instruction whatsoever, which would be helpful , ..I will be playing your video step by step as I mount my first gyro/stabilizer ever in over 10 years of flying. I got the YF 23 and even on the lowest of rates it is squirrely as hell in the air. I will tell you how it goes. Excellent step by step video. Keep doing them bro.
ooh hey.... i'm very interested to know how this worked out with your YF-23, I too have this model and I am considering a HobbyEagle gyro for flying it. Please, details!
Great Vid . Said everything I needed to know. If you were using a 8 channel receiver and a Futaba radio it would have been better for me , but you did great !! Keep up the great work and Happy Flying !! THX BEN V.
Excuse my ignorance and stupidity here. But am working on a larger project that's more of a hybrid and have ZERO knowledge of RC's or yhese types of gyros. So I've been pondering many design sspects and "must haves" over the past week and a few things hit me last night about stabikity abd use of gyros. But im rhi king okd school spinning gyros. Anyway, all that got me thinking or wondering if youtube would have any video on how a gyro would work with a RC if scaled up? ... Found your vid first and am fascinated that such tech is available for this market and smaller size. But is Truly amazing and great job explaining everything. But I'm still gonna have to seek out an actual gyro video as I'm curious how they work inside 6 what the pros and cons are in the drone/jet world with this type system or if it'd even work or not? And as said; our project is substantially larger than your nice model RC here. Can you just explain to me like a 4th grader what's happening inside that box? It's not a real gyro in the sense of spinning hoops holding something steady. So that I'm really curious about. Assuming it's a mercury type leveling switch or some sort of G'sensor array that tells or sends the appropriate signal to each bit depending on your flying control inputs etc? Honestly i have no cle!! But is so very cool! What do these run price-wise? Lastly, what is "3D mode" here in this application!? What benefits do you get by 1) adding this gyro box and 2) using or not using 3D mode? Apologies for the dumb Q's but if I get the answers I think I will you may have just saved me a ton of money. Thanks. Actually since or if I have your (or someone else knowledgeable on all this) and your ear... say this was a drone but with forward thrust so like a std. 4 prop / 4 corner position yet scaled up say 5x fold. Would Gyros be warranted or even desired here? Since everything is "custom" and never seen anything like tgis before. Let alone such a clearly written Install manual likevtgis ine here. Clearly this company has their act together - but I digress. Just curious if they do even mfg the old spinning gyros!? Or has eveything gone this way now? (not having a clue as to whats inside the box) I'm the idiot remember? Or maybe this usage of the term 'gyro' is different today from what I'm thinking of wanting or needing from decades ago!? FWIW: If anyone's interested in learning more and working on a scaled-up beta version and getting paid for your experience... hit me up here. Will be Fall of 2023/early 2024 before we get to this stage but we coukd use several RC experts (large scale) ppl to assist or brainstorm with. Many thanks for any replies that are constructive. (And for those rolling your eyes at my words said here. I just write the checks and fund projects. But am a Mech Eng and architect turned entrepreneur and that's why I'm able to offer a small pay day for any help should you/we decide to work together. Fair?) So just know curiosity of gyros got me today hence me digging around RU-vid. I'm old school. So off to research more gyro videos but truly enjoyed this. Just wish you'd test-flown it at the end. Cheers.
Hi, I have a question, can I install the power capacitor with on a Y connection with navigation lights if I don't have an open channel.? Please and thanks.
Thanks for your detailed explanation. I'm thinking to purchase gyro for Trojan t28 800mm. Do you think A3-L is good enough for this mode? I'm a beginner on RC plane category. :)
great video but I have one question. with this gyro (and also with the A3V2) you can control only 1 aileron. it means that in your video you assume that the gyro work well also with only 1 aileron. i hope you can answer me. tks Paolo
This stabilizer now has four modes and by default will not switch the gyro off. People need to select number 7 in settings and either use mode 1 or mode 2 and that will allow you to turn the gyro off.
@@mickwilton11 Does it bind to the receiver. I would put the receiver in another plane if you have one and see if it will bind. If so and the stabilizer is connected to the receiver correctly. I am using FlySky and pwm protocol. If you are using ibus or sbus you might try pwm and see if it will work that way. I am also using openTX. You have to configure your mode and arm switches on what ever transmitter that you are using. If that is all correct, you most likely have a bad stabilizer.
@@parker1ray hi ray iv tried it in another plane and just the same results im using a spectrum DX7 got no mix in it not using sbus just normal standard only mix i have on is throttle kill rely dont understand it thanks for getting back to me
You say. Make sure the plane is flat and level before plugging in the gyro. Flat & level as it would be in flight? If you fly a tail dragger such as a J3 Cub etc... Would the gyro want to try and put the elevator down upon takeoff while the plane is still on the landing gear? Nose facing up? And can you use a gyro on a 3ch airplane?
Like seriously for real. I just need to know where to plug my battery in. Without starting a fire. Do I plug it in to the flight control system or do I plug it in to my receiver?
I was able to set this particular gyro up with no problem following your instructions, then I took on what they called the new A3 & I could not get it to work right at all, also I cannot find out anything about it on the internet or you-tube. Does anybody out there know about the HobbyEagle A3 gyro?
In the instructions that came with the gyro , it cautioned not to use dry cell batterys in the plane to power the gyro . what problems do dry cells cause ?? I use dry cells in my radios and all of my planes . please explain --- I do not want to crash a plane because of this .
Why are you using the throttle cut switch? I would use the mode switch , or B switch. The G switch is for my rudder. Just my 2 cents. Please explain, and thanks for your help.
Hello what do you think are the best settings for the 1,5m eflight cirrus? Im beginner and wanna fly relaxed so i need very beginner settings... Can u help me?
Hello agin James ! Eddie here in the UK. After following your video carefully and setting everything up and double checking all settings I'm having a problem. I've just had a brief live chat with Tim who was unable to help me so would you be able to please ? In stabilised mode ailerons correct themselves if you roll the aircraft but elevators don't move when pitching aircraft up or down. Oddly they act like a rudder correction as they both go up or both go down as if they were working from rudder correction but horizontally IF YOU SWING THE AIRCRAFT LEVEL FROM SIDE TO SIDE which is both weird and wrong ! HELP PLEASE JAMES !
great video! Quick question... What if I I am using aileron servos in two different channels in my receiver. How would I connect the two aileron channels to the gyro with only one available aileron slot in a gyro?
you will want to use the A3Super3 gyro for that setup. You won't be able to do that on the A3-L or A3Pro. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nmNPWhndv1Y.html
Just 1 question I am just getting into the hobby and I build all my planes from scratch if you only have rudder and elevator can you just plug those into the gyro or do I need ailerons?
Installed, but when I am in a headwind turning I get some wing flap twitch, like it's having a seizure. Does the pot + or - adjustment help with this? Should I go to + cause currently it's in the middle. Thank you!
Notice that the photos of the gyro are of the A3, not the A3-L. How do you tell if you have a V1 or a V2? Also, if you do not have an open port for the capacitor then use a "Y" connecting lead to a port like the Rudder.
My problem is with a Draco which has a very high incidence wing, opened the throttle and I had to feed down elevator trim to the max but ended up climbing vertically and then fell back, I used all the available trimming. I then tried some programmed subtrim but on closing down the throttle it then dived down, so that was no good. CofG is correct BTW. I want the gyro to give down elevator on a climb only to help with this. The test to tip fus tail down does show it's working, but then if I hold it in that same position elevator returns to normal - is that going to happen in flight?
Great video! Quick question. If I only have a 4 ch RX, can I still use this gyro and just have it enabled all the time? I believe by default, -100 was off, 0 was stabilized mode and +100 was 3D in your video. So, if no wire is plugged in, does that send a signal of 0 and thus let he gyro work for basic stabilization? Thanks!
I see remote gain is the same port on the unit as it is for flight modes. How is it possible to turn the knob for gain and use a switch for flightmodes. You say if you have an extra channel on you receiver you use that channel and also set that to aux 2. Does that also work for your 2 aileron servo,s and 2 elevator servo,s , wanting to use them apart from eachother, just plug in your receiver and assign to your aileron and elevator? Does it not need to go in the unit for gain? Do i need the black unit for this, for wingtype? Do i need to use a Y-cable otherwise, or does s-bus help opening channels for double servo's?
The mode and gain have 2 seperate ports, not sure where you see they aren't seperate? If you dont want to Y your ailerons, elevator etc, then this Gyro can't work. You need to step up to the a3pro (red one) or a3 super 3 (black one)
@@MotionRC perfect, just the answer i was looking for. For computer and overal better view i wil go for 3 black units. The 4-5 have extra options for double servo,s
Depends on the servos your model has, most PNP foam aircraft will never need to change this setting, but guys put these in ARF builds with higher frequency servos will need to know those servos stats and make the change or the servos jitter
@@MotionRC Thanks, so it's based upon the servo specifications? I just looked at the specifications for a Hitec D645MW servo that I use in larger planes and can't locate a frequency specification. Thank you.
Hey JAMES : Last question . Is it important to have a A3 level with the wings to keep the plane flying level ?? If the A3 is tilted forward or back will it make the plane rise or fall ?? THX BEN V.
Great tutorial, thank you. Newbie here setting up an Eachine F16 50mm.. it runs on a 11.1v battery. I notice the voltage on the A3 is lower, should I be concerned? How would I account for that?
What's the capacitor for? And it is necessary? I've flown all my planes without it and never experienced any problems. I'm worried whether I should or not.
Without a gyro, your servos will only move with stick inputs, but with a gyro, all the servos connected to it will be constantly working whether you have stick inputs or not. So the capacitor is there to make sure there is always a consistent voltage in the system (you can put the capacitor in an unused port on the gyro or receiver). Lets say you dropped gear, flaps and are moving all surfaces at the same time, you could get a dip in voltage and potentially lose signal without it
Hello Jim, I need to have my curiosity satisfied...You say in the video that the servo pins have to be facing the rear (AFT) of the plane. Merry Boozer says the same thing. However the manual say's and I quote ""You only need to ensure that the servo connector pins always point toward the front (or rear) of the plane"" So who is right?? FYI...I went by the manual and installed my A3-L in my Gosshawk with the pins facing forward and everything works as it should doing a preflight surface direction check on the bench. Thanks.
Well, truth be told, if you mount it backward (servo connections going into the gyro toward the rear of the aircraft) it should still work fine. Because its still just a matter of making sure all the directions correct properly. It shouldn't really matter as long as it is A. Level and B. Set for the orientation you want (horizontal or vertical)
@@MotionRC Thank you! that answers my question. Just my opinion you should make an updated video stating that the servo pins CAN be facing forward or rearward ;)
Thanks, James, that's a great help. The snag I'm hitting is that the ailerons have a healthy, positive, correct direction movement, but the elevator and rudder have no discernible movement, although when the battery is 'on' the system switches and twitches as per. The only diff in my system is that the elevator uses two servos, but one 'Y' lead, and works fine when the aircraft has the gyro switched off or on ( overiding). The Mod two is switched off, and the system is on a two way switch, correctly showing blue when switched to 'on'. Help?!
Check the connections first, make sure you didn't plug a lead in with the polarity reversed, you can also check the elevator servo on a servo checker or plug it directly to the receiver to see if it moves. check your transmitter that you have the correct aircraft type. This is a loaded question as I don't know where you are in the process, but should help you start diagnosing
I have this gyro and its plugged in right after initialization it blinks red constantly, I have done reset and unpledged mode and sbus gain still blinks red Can some one please help me
You 100% fail to mention how to power the unit. In terms of what sequence to plug what and where and when to plug the battery in. Or even where to plug the battery in. If you do this in the wrong sequence, you will start a fire. I know because I started a fire. The only reason I’m watching this video is for the information that apparently it lacks: where do I plug in the battery?
First time ive had to deal with a capacitor, if i wanted to test the capacitor to see if its good how do i do this? Seems like just hooking it up and never testing it now and theen would be not a good idea.
You can set the gyro to on/off on a switch and trim it with the gyro off, or put the use the remote master gain on a knob and lower the gain all the way down to trim and then roll it back up
We never sold the A3-v2, but the 3 pots on that version show pot 1 as normal gain, pot 2 as auto-balance gain, and pot 3 as auto-hover gain. So if you don't use the modes for pot 2 and 3 then just turn those pots all the way down and focus on pot 1 which, like the A3-L, will affect all surfaces (aileron, elevator and rudder)
Hi, I’ve ordered one of these and was wondering if you could tell me if it will work with a spektum 5ch receiver or do I need a 6ch? If anyone can help me with this I’d really appreciate it. Thanks
the manual says to mount the gyro as close to the CG as possible. the position it was mounted in the video - is that close enough? has this model been flown successfully with the gyro in that position? thanks
Yes, Closer to the CG is ideal, but I have never experienced any adverse effects from a gyro anywhere in the battery tray. And have flown with pilots who have put them up in the nose as well without issue.
I have programed the on off switch as shown with no problems, but I do not have a knob on my DX6 to control the gain. Can you please tell me how to set the gain using a three position switch so that I can change it to say 33% 66% or 100% of the gain set on the pot. None of the videos on Utube show this and it is not in the manual. Maybe a short video would be good for this or at least an explanation.Thanks in advanceJames, and thanks for the great video. Mike.
I can make a video for you for sure. But quickly try this. So, as I say in the video. When you set your master gain on a knob or slider, the max gain will always be whatever the max gain you have set on the gain 1 pot on the front of the gyro itself. So I never make that pot more than 50% (haven't come across an aircraft needing that much). So instead of setting it to a knob, set it to a 3 position switch (as I do it in this video for the knob). Then, if you haven't changed the travel like I did to make the mode "on/off", then the travel of -100 will be 0, 0 would 25% or half what the gain on the pot is and 100 would be 50% or what the max gain on the pot is. Play with the travel of each position of switch to get to 33%, 66% and 100%. (let me know if this makes sense)
Hi James. made settings -20, +40, and +100. Seems to give a nice progression of gain from about 40% of pot to 100% of pot setting. Thanks for your help. Mike.
Yes, as long as both servos are Y'd together going into the one elevator port than you are fine. It's when you want to run 2 elevator servos in 2 ports that you would want the A3 Super3 Gyro from Hobby Eagle
Just finished installing this today in a 1.5m 3D plane, Double checked all control surfaces, all gains were left standard, level calibration, ect, ect. Took off and couldn't control the plane at all, went up about 10m then smashed into the ground and into lots of pieces...to say i was pissed would be an understatement. But im willing to try a second time in something less expensive and smaller, as everyone else seems to be having success with this. Is there something simple im missing or haven't done? Feel free to comment guys.Much appreciated.
were the gain pots too high? There is no standard for gain pots as different aircraft require different gains. But you have to start on the low side, 15-20%. Then work your way up. Sounds like maybe the gain were too high for the aircraft so the gyro was overcorrecting making it almost uncontrollable. When set up right, these gyros are terrific, I have them in lots of models
@@MotionRC Yes iv heard and seen nothing but good things with these gyros. I made a mistake, i have the A3-V3 not the V2, but some thing. My gains were all set standard, in the 6 O, clock position. I didn't touch them at all. Im really determined to master this, i usually use i-nav or Ardupilot but for some calm park flying and stunts tha,ts just overkill. That,s why i bought one of these. So should i turn all the gains down to what looks like 3.45, Quarter to three and go from there? Cheers
Hey James, I have an E-flite Piper Pawnee 15e ARF that is set up with flaperon on my airplane. The way I have it set up is my right aileron is going to the aileron receiver and the left aileron is going into Aux1. How do I set up so both ailerons are working with the Hobby eagle a3-l v2 when turn on?
Good day sir, does it work in 3 Chanel plane. I’ve just built an old fogey rc plane with 3 Channels. Throttle, elevator and radar. Please suggest if it works in it or not? Thanks
Ciao !!!!ho comprato il giroscopio blu...a3 l....funziona tutto ...però quando uso dal telecomando l'elevatore non funziona...non capisco...qualcuno può aiutarmi???thsanks!!!!!
Savez vous comment effectuer le câblage pour une aile delta ( 2 servos"aileron et élévateur ensemble" + un moteur électrique ) Do you know how to perform the wiring for a delta wing (2 servos "aileron and elevator together" + an electric motor)
Yes, at 19:42 we speak of the delta setup. Basically, you go into the 1st menu option and change the wing type to Delta. You plug your elevons into the aileron and elevator ports. The key is that you DO NOT have to change your transmitter to a delta setup as the gyro does all the work for you. Set your transmitter up as a normal (standard) aircraft. Just the gyro needs to be in the delta mode
@@MotionRC Merci de m'avoir répondu , je vais faire un essai je vous tiens informé. Thank you for answering me, I will give it a try I will keep you informed.
Bonjour, cela fonctionne parfaitement mon problème venait bien que, je mettais mon éméteur en delta. Merci beaucoup. @+ Hello, this works perfectly my problem came although, I put my transmitter in delta. thank you so much @ +
I have a stock harbor freight P51D Mustang with a 72mhz transmitter, would i have to upgrade to a nicer transmitter & receiver with these menu functions in order to get it going? Or is there some plug n play default mode?
This will work regardless of transmitter and receiver you have. You may not be able to have multiple functions on a switch, but you can certainly have just the gyro on all the time if you feel you need it. But eventually you should be thinking to upgrade your protocol
@@jamr2t They are pretty similar, one just offers more functions that a beginner probably wouldn't need. But they said up similar with a series of light etc. I have a video that runs down to differences between them on the channel
@@scottfirman Sorry but that is BS! ALL these stabilizers do ALL the mixing on the stabilizer (EVEN WHEN SWITCHED TO MANUAL!) If you try to start adding extra V-tail or Delta mixing via the transmitter you are just headed for grief! The ONLY time you will need transmitter mixing is if you physically remove the stabilizer from the circuit!
It will only work with this Gyro if you Y-Lead your Ailerons together. Simple and cheap. Or you can go with the A3 Super3 that uses either the laptop/desktop software or a programming card. Easy to install as well and has 5 ports for input channels from planes for just this. And no Y-lead needed.
