Hollywood PANICS! The Flash FLOPS as Superhero Fatigue Sets In 

Definitely a thing for me.

These movies just devolve into a playstation cutscene with a bunch of shit packed EVERYWHERE on screen

@@neonswitchbladesame here. They made it worse with their “THE MESSAGE”. But I had pretty much burned out on the genre by 2019. A great time to check out. And I have.

Yeah it's really more fatigue for shitty writing rather than super hero fatigue cause I'm still hyped for the boys and Invincible

For me it is

I'm fatigued of horrible people acting as heroes.

Or bad actors

How many times can you watch hero’s save the world? It’s every month, “we gotta team up and save the world” and they always do. Wow, amazing.

Ezra killed it you people are so fucking toxic

I don't think it's superhero fatigue, it's bad movies with evil people playing good guys trying to make films with garbage messages and telling people the movie isn't for them but that they are -ists and -phobes for not seeing it. people would be happy to see movies if they were cudgeled by Hollywood all the time.

That’s never gonna happen.

@@bengilhooly3616 It can, when 5 more superhero movies will flop. They are stupid, but not THAT stupid.

I’m sick of blockbusters I’m sick of special effects driven spectacle films why can’t they just go back to simpler story driven edgy films? I want more 90s style films I’m tired of this cliche’d genre and “heroes”. That’s why Joker was a kick in the ass it made billions and it was just a simple character piece.

The Flash was kinda good. Its different and over-the-top but I can see how people would be sick of Superhero movies if they saw more of them than I watch

That's what I feel like. If they make movies worth seeing we would be fine.

Exactly! I really hate it when people start saying superhero fatigue, zombie fatigue, apocalypse fatigue… It’s simply not true! People are just fed up with bad films pushing crap that we don’t want!

@@JackEverton101 Once a genre starts doing well you get all the executives with zero imagination seeing it as a guaranteed way to get easy money so they green light every garbage script that comes along, while the goal during production becomes that of getting something out of the door asap to cash in rather than making it good.

@@trolleriffic ain’t that the truth! And then you add some politics in there and some messaging and they’ve hit the trifecta

Same with the vampire fad.

I'll drop my 2 month old baby on the floor and watch superheros fighting zombies right now. Just kidding I can't remember how old this baby is. Wait it's just a pineapple.

Oh he'll appear again... Inside another kid that he groomed.

Nah let's hope he appears... inside prison behind bars.

He could appear in a jail for sure.

He is jewish, he is basically immune to consequences. I invite everyone here to look up Leo Frank, so you all get an idea, who the enemy is and what they are willing to do toget away with ANYTHING.

​@@JohrnyReporttrue facts

Facts 💯

Multiverse madness is too much as well. It is stupid. It doesn't raise the stakes. It just makes everything feel pointless.

Reading further comments, I see nearly everyone saying the same thing about superhero fatigue. Awesome.

That and them continuing to allow criminals and such to work for them. Cant wait for Aquaman to flop because of Amber Turd.

And they take iconic storylines and butcher them. Batman V Superman was part death of Superman, part dark Knight returns, and a justice league prequel. With The Flash, they take his most iconic Flashpoint paradox story and try to safe bet it. They had Wonder Woman, they had Aquaman, they had all the pieces as far as Jeffery Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan. They could have done a very faithful story. They butcher and run through all these storylines that we're left with a mess and nothing else to adapt 🤷‍♂️ And Keaton would have been better in a Batman Beyond movie imo.

It appears to be more a matter of corporate production processes than genre.

@@andywellsglobaldomination I'm pretty sure he was ironic... those are some of the worst movies made recently with a woke agenda and terrible plot

​@@andywellsglobaldominationcorporate fatigue, people is tired of overbearing lawbreaking hypocritical corpos that tell the people how to be the ideal citizen.

Lmao it's not superheroes it shitty movies in general lol. Anyways I'm gonna go watch Jurassic park 3

Yeah, and don't mention how super hero fatigue hits Bud Light too 😅

Agreed

Yeah I didn't know Shang Chi was a bad movie until this fool made a video telling me it was bad.

@@ski69bum apart from fighting choreography, its a bad movie.

yup

It's not down your throat........ Yeah.....that's not good...

yeah, that's why Joker made over a billion..

O how you forget the 80s action hero movies are no more. Just like the Superhero movies are over. The genre is done.

What social or political message are you even talking about?

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Huh, I thought it was the costume designer who said that

Disgusting. That's how deluded Hollyweird is.

It's crime time

It did make me forget about it because you cannot take your mind off of the bowl of spaghetti you are watching

Isn't there like 50+ years of Marvel comics stories to tell? Maybe the writers should just stick to the script they have, rather then try to re-invent the wheel with their own take on the characters.

@@michaelpollock3029 The first Superman comic came out in the summer for '39. Marvel is newer than that, but DC is coming close to a century of content now. And they both have SO much to work with. But instead Marvel looked at the failed run of "replace the hero with tokens" comics and said "that didn't do well in comics, but I bet it'll work. All the other woke trash movies have been huge successes among my personal group of friends here in hollywood."

I got tired of it. Once they started pumping out shitty shows on Disney Plus i was done

Literally almost a century thats wild to think theyre so up their own ass they cant just be humble and find some good ones out of all that time. They would rather vomit on the page and call it art.

I grew up with comics and have 3 kids who used to watch these DC and Marvel movies. No one in this house cares anymore. Fatigue? Yeah. I definitely think it is widespread.

George Soros son will pay 1bn USD for Ezra to get another lead,. Even if they get losses. The Biden admin will refund that money to Soros.

JD was not innocent. Not by any definition. The rest is accurate tho

What was he guilty of then? Please enlighten us…

Hypocrisy at its best

​​@sandos101 As someone who has been through what JD has been through. His relationship with Turd is very reminiscent with my own. Him standing up for himself doesnt take away the fact that he's a victim.

Well said! Daredevil tv series is / was awesome!

I agree I liked the Daredevil Movie

What do you mean? Specifically as it relates to the Flash I mean.

I'd half agree. There is a superhero fatigue, as when you make too many of the same type of movies in a short period of time you're not making a specific Superman or Spiderman movie you're making a superhero mess movie. Can't have good quality for that much quantity in that much time, even if it was without any woke bs it would suck, plus 90%+ of people watching are non comics reader so they will eventually want something else to watch

Then what your hero should be able to do, has to be done by a woman over and over. It's old. The heros they are showing, they slighted all the Mary Sue archs, so why the very "fresh" heroes, all Mary Sues, retconning the crap outta entire franchises to fit these heroes everyone decided sucked amd let their respective comics fail as they should have.(side-eye at Ms.Marvel)

@@richardcharles4126 - I gotta dissagree, a good film with super's in it is still a good film, what's missing is the good part. So called experts say this film is going to be a hit but the public don't judge films the same way as critics do. Critics see how complex the lighting was, how that brand new type of CG they used turned out or how varied the location was and dozens of other things that the critic's nit pick over that the rest of us do not even notice because we are not directly looking for them, we only see the end result but the most important part is how did the film make me feel. Was the story engaging? Did it blow our minds? etc etc. All those give us an emotional attachment to the film. Like did time feel like it just flew by and then at the end did you wish the film would keep going for a lot longer? It's these intangible things that create strong emotions that make a movie "good" or not. We know a good show when we see it, no one has to tell us it's good we just know. I mean would a westen sell well today? Of course it would "if" it was an original exciting story it just couldn't fail. Variety is the spice of life after all so it's without question that hammering any genre to death will never be a good idea. But don't stop completely, as there's no need too, everyone I know still loves scifi again it's the good part that's missing. And for gods sake hire your actors based on there skill alone "do not" pick actors base solely on there race or sexuality alone, this a massive mistake killing many shows at this time. Also people hate to be taken for fools so taking beloved character and replacing them with another race, sex or sexuality based of what some random heavily biased organisations thinks is in trend is a garrenteed PR disater just waiting to happen. But isn't everything I said a no brainer? If not, why isn't it?

I tend to agree, I don't think there is such a thing as franchise fatigue, I think their is such a thing as shit movie fatigue and a series of bad films in a franchise with break down brand trust, but make a good movie with the right marketing and people will go and see it

In the end corporate will fall back to the $$$ of it all. I think a lot of companies are looking at bud light and having second thoughts these days.

unless they're setting up shop in china, russia, or the middle east, then the message doesn't exist

@@user-qg3nj1sv8j In this case I couldn't if I wanted to. I don;t drink crap beer so I can't vote with my wallet in this case.

Woke crap

You said it right Johnny

I don't want a past comic book story turned into a movie. I want new and original stories with these heroes.

@@dhenderson1810 This but a good one. Writing is weak with Marvel and most DC movies.

Writing, and throwing 'minorities' into everything for VSPs (virtue signalling points). Screw the source material or majority of western audiences.

KK was right. The force(ed messaging) is female.

Woke fatigue

Correct. It's not my job as a viewer to remain attentive. It's their job to make movies worthy of my attention. Likewise it's not my job to suspend disbelief. It's their job to create a plausible world with rules logical enough for me to believe. Did the floating islands in Avatar make any sense? No. But the rest of the movie was so cool I didn't care. They built the most visually realistic alien planet ever.

No, it’s definitely fatigue. Stop making these trash films

"Forced wokeness" lol

I agree 💯

We will never get tired of stories we are just tired of terrible stories

Superhero Fatigue is proven bullshit by Spiderman movies making bank in recent times.

Great analogy!

I want to see more gory and bloody superhero movies. Like the Boys and Invincible.

Imagine being a grown-up man and unironically watch this capeshit trash lol

There is no superhero fatigue There is only bad/mid superhero film fatigue Gotg vol 3 and ATSV were massive successes

In all fariness Flash really wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't fantastic, just solid OK imo. I feel like this BTS shit with Ezra Miller was what really hurt it.

Henry can't save nothing his character was ruined in batman vs superman too much Frank Miller in zack

He needed to be removed. Zack's version was terrible. It was bad enough that Pa Kent suggested that maybe he should have let kids die, but then when Clark let his dad die, I was done. Gunn didn't want that tainted character in his new version. I like Cavill, but removing him was the only intelligent thing that could be done. Besides, fans showed WB that they didn't have much interest in Cavill's return when they didn't go see Black Adam.

I loved all three movies with Henry as Superman. For me, the movies were perfect and closer to how I see Superman. Id love to see him again as Superman

@@happzy I didn't go see The Flash because of Ezra Miller, I don't understand why all this bullshit gets tolerated in Hollywood but I'm never supporting it personally.

yeah I hear there is a writer strike going on etc perhaps those people should find another line of work

@101spacecase It wont matter if the same executives are in charge that make the writers scripts worse!

Exactly. Superhero movies _could_ still be great. They're just being made poorly.

All the fancy writing in the world couldn't get me interested in these lame characters like Moonknignt?? and...." Blue Beetle"

@@glendegroot8403 One could have said the same thing about "Guardians of the Galaxy" but it proved that a good story will change that idea!

100%

Exactly. Bad movie, writing, social ideological messaging, ETC

Wrong. Genre fatigue is absolutely a real thing. These things come in cycles. Look at history, idiot.

No it not. Because “fatigue” implies people like going to bad movies. There’s definitely “Apathy over Bad Movies” but to say Superhero Fatigue is fake is a cope.

​@NathanCassidy721 there is no superhero fatigue, people are suddenly not liking superhero hero movies, look at no way home, venom, spiderverse, hell even kraven looks awesome

Imagine being a grown ass man and unironically watching this capeshit trash as escapism lol

TRUTH! I wonder what audiences 20-30 years from now will think of these movies if they ever watch them? 🤔

Except Spiderverse. It’s killing it at the box office

@@JohnDoe-sl6di That's only because the wokeness is much more subtle, it's still woke af

Yeah I remember Superhero movies were my way to escape reality, to see how faithful they can adapt to the big screen, to see them flying and making explosions. Instead they're now making them more "relatable" and more "human" which to me completely defeats the purpose of watching them in the first place.

Exactly

>they are being funded by the global elite in order to influence society This is absolutely correct. They need us to be obedient puppets rather than free-thinking human beings. The globalist goblins want a sl-ave-race to do their bidding, and we are not having it.

trash fatigue is what we have.

Yeah, but the producers see themselves as great professionals. Sure, they may underestimate the potential of a movie from time to time, or think they have a real blockbuster and have it only perform well, not great - that's due to the huge number of variables involved. But an expected hit turning into a real flop? Must be something external. And if that happens more than once, and the similar movies that didn't flop only perform so-so... it *must* be genre fatigue, what else? Noone can predict when that will happen, so no fault on their side. You think they will admit that "the message", crappy writing, complete lack of respect for source material and deconstruction everywhere just for the sake of it might have caused that? Keep dreaming. It's genre fatigue, period. They'd have to admit to mistakes and change their approach - that won't happen, you'll get a search for a new cash cow genre instead. And some frustration that it's not going too well - because they'll reuse their "correct by definition" approach in everything they do.

It's not super-hero fatigue, it just the Snyderverse fans have left the building on DC, it kills me that no one can see that or give us any credit. It's a straight up ignorant statement to say the Snyderverse flopped when it actually made money. JW JL $666M, MOS $668M, Suicide Squad $774M, Wonder Woman $817M, BVS $872M, Aquaman $1.1B. Everything with the exception of Joker and The Batman, after the cancellation of the Snyderverse the DCU box office went off the cliff. But nobody sees the connection? I think the reason Shazam did so poorly was because the way it is advertised like it would have too much comedy and DC fans are different than Marvel fans, we like our stories tones dark and with tension. Shazam is a good movie and the comedy was like a family movie instead of all the agenda and stupid slapstick comedy of the MCU. DC pissed on their core audience's head but they are going to learn the hard way like Disney is now.

@@ibramblebush i totally agree with that they could’ve kept some quips in there as billy was as a kid but SHAZAM has always been mostly mature when he is in battle

Exactly! We’ll never get tired of superhero stories we’re just tired of terrible stories being told

Bad story telling, unwanted agendas, taking out what makes these characters great. Flash a science genuis with a light hearted attitude always looking to find the positive out of the bad. Superman a hero that inspires and encourages citizens and other heroes by his bravery, confidence, unwilling to bow to please everybody, value, respect towards creatures both on earth or other worlds. Batman some good stuff shown before, but have failed for many years to give a Batman who is both highly intelligent, a brilliant detective, escape artist, a mentor figure and a good fighter. They take out a fourth or more of what a number of these dc and Marvel heroes are actually like in the comics and act like they are worth a billion dollars to watch in theaters.

I watched the last 20 min. of this movie and its not that bad. I goes hard for the super-meta shit and I dont know where you can go from there, the final joke was funny with Clooney showing up though

Exactly, until they realized "the fault lies not in their stars but in themselves" (to paraphrase the great Billy S) it will never get any better

The beauty is you yall cant see that your elite HATE you and are doing this on purpose you think with all the brilliance dey have dey can not actually make good movies? HAHAHAHAH.. you are going to be forgotten and the new generation is going to watch the movies and think dey are great just like the music of nowadays compared to the 70, 80s, 90s, early 2000's.. same thing with your generation it will be forgotten..

@@HuemanSmoke well let’s see how that theory works when these kind of movies are constantly flopping…

If you stretch that logic a bit you get, "It wasn't my fault that people died. I just shot them. It was them who died."

​@@LautaroTessi Your elites have TRILLIONS of dollars do you know how long it takes to spend one trillion? If you spend 1 million every hour 24/7 you wouldnt run out of a trillion in 411 years... so? Do you think you can outlast them? Your elites are also making sure that children are now transitioning into the opposite which is male to female and female to male.. your society is falling and crumbling before you know it all yall older generation are going to be gone and the new kids on the block will take it over your elites are starting in the schools with their programming of the minds of your race their children.., this is "white culture"

Nah, it will be fine.

Great minds think alike!

The message wouldn't even be so annoying if the writing was good. But it's like they go hand in hand

Agreed The way the DCU treated it's big name stars in favor of Miller is what puts me off. I don't like his running style, his lack of acting and many other things about him. Grant Gustin does a far better job of The Flash than Miller ever could. And the whole Multi-verse plot is a sign the writers realize they have screwed things up and want to reset everything.

Yeah I see you point

The Flash didnt have any political messages and still bombed hard

There are no political messages in those movies, conservative grifting RU-vidrs like this one is just telling you there is. And then you believe them

Absolutely. They only like our money, they don't care about telling good stories anymore.

You hit the spot fucken A+

Yeah, if it were truly superhero fatigue then you would assume this would affect superhero manga and anime sales, and yet My Hero Academia is very popular.

@@helsby1797 you are right, not on our own. But if you make a true comic adaption (which are also good stories) you will get both demographics. They have seemed to push away both comic fans and people who just want to see good movies

Very much agree. And though HW is thoroughly stupid, I think its the high ESG score they're chasing

Except in a few very rare cases, most of what you said is just people being overly sensitive.

its not fatigue, we are all tired of SHIT WRITTING AND SHIT CGI

No more interest in lame hype? Bruh.

there is no Indiana jones fatigue though. Its just commonly agreed upon by indie fans that the first 3 films were great. The crystal skull not so bad but was chucked do the memory hole so fast a 5th movie wasn't even necessary. Super heroes, Star wars, pixar, and live action remakes have all fallen out of favor for pop culture. Hollywood can't write good films anymore with any cultural staying power. Audiences are now looking for anything new that doesn't fall too far into the Hollywood ideological mold.

Me: Oooh i don't feel so good i ate 12 bags of chips in a row... Burp... Disney :Here, this'll fix you up! (Throws a KS bag of chips at me.)

😂 this is a winner right here. I'm pretty sure the two people replying above me did not get it. Not even a little 😂

More like WB has been fucking up for so long that people just stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt. A lot of organizations are starting to fuck up this way.

That's why I won't go see it. I really want to, but I'll wait till it hits RedBox

What did he do to alienate people like that?

That and the film looking like fortnite in the trailers

They didn't want to support *they*. No penis on that zer, no siree. 😅

And the "actors" can always find work dressed as Nazis attacking the Proud Boys. So there's that.

Actors coming to hollywood to make a movie just for the money they don't care about their audiences I they care about is them and keep their money growing.

What's woke about the flash movie?

It's both. This movie wasn't even that woke

@@chadmartin454 the main actor being let off of multiple felonies, which would land anyone who doesn't wave a rainbow flag in a federal prison for 25+ years.

​@@chadmartin454besides casting an actor who calls himself "queer" in real life, nothing

@@diahreea2022 That is your brain slowly normalizing it. And how dare you! He is The Mad Goose Wizard!

That’s because it’s superhero fatigue…

@@deadschooled Cape "stuff". I used to debate this with my besty. A super hero is just so simple. Now they refuse to write good villains. What is left? A hero needs a foil and they can only strawman things they don't like.

​@deadschooled You might make that argument if a good superhero movie did poorly but we are not seeing that. Thus the argument fails.

its easier to shift blame, than too accept responsibility for failures, when you are a narcissist film maker who surrounds themselves with "yes men"; too afraid or morally bankrupt too tell you the truth.

​@@deadschooled no dc was never going and marvel ok but fell off

Can you explain the agenda they had or are u just talking out of your ass?

Not to mention if he looked and acted anything like Barry Allen

We used to have heroines that didn't require the virtue signaling that a lot of current films exhibit. The underworld and tomb raider franchises come to mind. Lara Croft and Seline were female empowerment fantasies as much as guys like Vin Diesel in the Riddick franchise. It didn't need the fantasy spelled out to justify itself. They could just be cool and inspiring.

Imagine being a grown ass man and unironically watching this capeshit trash lol

The bad stories and franchise management preceded the fatigue... I think whatever fatigue that has manifested is largely due to not properly engaging audiences anymore without nostalgia

True also, since covid its harder to get the audience to go to sub par movies.

That's what I said, keep the politics out of the movies and just tell good stories and we will watch them

So you're saying that if that if the movies were as good as the first GoTG for example, we'd still get bored of the three to four Superhero movies that come out each year? I call bullshit, and you know it. It's 100% bad movies and storytelling.

Yeah but I am so done with Superheroes that I never want to watch another film about them, good or bad. Superhero Fatigue is real. To say otherwise is a John Campia level of cope.

​@pavilionbug Really? I have definitely seen much worse and also enjoyed 2008 Hulk. Simple fun action...or are you talking about The Flash movie?

@@pavilionbug I can see why people wouldn't like it but i'll take twenty minutes of rage induced nonsense than the jolly green dickhead we have now

Nah it's def both.

Its just typical to blame failure on something not their fault. I personally would love more superhero films, but I don't want genderswapping, raceswapping, forced LGBTQ insertion, forced feminist propoganda etc. Although it's hard to pull off now that those things are already more and more prevalent in comics.

The editing suffers too

@@Jay9966 Feminist propaganda? lol

@@mrtofusbarrelass Count the times where the shows/movies have a cast that includes a woman that can do no wrong, is better than her male counterpart in almost every aspect while the man is a bumbling fool there for comic relief or a stepping stone for the woman. Captain Marvel She-Hulk Loki Ant Man 1,2,3 Black Widow Wakanda Forever Thor Love and Thunder Secret Invasion And then there's those with women doing evil shit that the show tries to make us empathize with: Falcon and the Winter Soldier WandaVision Doctor Strange 2 These shows/movies that literally glorify women by tearing down men, they forcibly try to put women in a better light despite them doing horrific shit. If that's not feminist propaganda to you, you're too far gone already.

@@Jay9966 Actually you started to see this back in the early nineties, with TV commercials. Men were bumbling fools, being bailed out by women.

chris hemsworth, Gal Gadot, Henry Cavill, & chris pratt are all based and non woke so ill support them. They even threw shades against DC & Marvel for being woke.

@@mgglycan2735 Gal 'if you're not a feminist you're sexist' Gadot, that based?

Glad to hear it. I'll check it out

@@gruby970she’s a little more based then the rest. I guess being based has a spectrum lmao

​@@gruby970yeah Gatod has engaged full white Savior mode. Apparently a messiah complex is a diagnosable disorder in Israel.

Hehe exactly!😂

Ever since Captain America: Civil War, I stopped watching the MCU because it just got boring and predictable. The only MCU films I watched after the Civil War were Infinity War, Endgame, and No Way Home only because of Tobey Maguire.

I think it's both.

Indeed, across the spiderverse did great so...

@@rossjones8656 Fatigue doesn't mean total combustion.

@@greygorygaming OK fair.

Bro what is this "the message" it's so vague

Intersectionality and post modernism, seeing everything as oppression and pushing it into your products with total disregard for the fans or consumers in general.

Yeah. We just love seeing heroic heroes fighting against evil, adversaries, or whatever they're fighting against. Action is one of those genres that somehow just can't die.

They understand They just don’t care The globalist authoritarians have them hypnotized into woke group think

​@@tcr7436they are, they just aren't allowed in the mainstream for ideological reasons.

It's not fatigue . It's a rubbish movie and people can't stand ezra miller he can't act and is annoying. He has also assaulted multiple women scarring one for life by throwing a chair at her head. He is also been involved in child grooming scandals the pedo (Google it) he is a disgusting entitled peice of trash. The fact that Hollywood won't cancel him yet they have cancelled actors over tweets is unbelievable. It's not a surprise, those who know, know. Your either in the inner circle or not.

Yeah. And a guy who in real life is abusive and violent and aggressive towards women in public doesn't make a hero normal sane nice people want to have to be subjected to on the big screen....or any screen.

So they gender swapped the second main character. That is woke as fuck. Fuck Netflix

Damn those movies are a breath of fresh action.

Yes he really does

Dude is an entitled namby pamby.

Ezra, the psycho woman beater, and James Gunn the pedo, are the major reasons people arent seeing this movie. Its not just because its bad. No matter your political leanings, people hate pedos and woman beaters.

@@Scarylookingblinkyguy Corect!

That guy is a supposed child molester that shit is crazy as a fan of TCAP I imagine its just pedophilia seeping into all aspects of our lives

Imagine being a grown-up man and unironically watch this capeshit trash lol

We need AI scripts

And no shoehorned agendas

"Humour" you plebs are the reason why superhero movies are going to **** We don't need humour when stuff is serious and a war is happening

Don't forget Invincible. The Boys and Invincible are the only shows worth watching these past 20 years involving supers. Most of them are pathetic version of their comic selves.

Biggest difference? They know how to write a good villian, with some insane stakes at cost. Disney is stuck playing with nerf guns and lasers, with villians as threatening as your next door shit-su.

The Boys?

You ever see the watchmen tv show? Thought that show was pretty good.

Guardian 3, Spiderman. Not superhero fatigue.

it's not just superhero movies that are bombing

Of course not, it's the child groomers fatigue.

​@@DG-mk7kdye look at Indiana Jones 😂

for some it is. i was over capeshit before it started. saw Iron Man, from what I remember it wasn't terrible but ugh, those movies are just not for me. and i wouldnt hate them so much if capeshit didn't have such an effect on the movie industry. mainly the whole 'shared universe' BS that EVERY company needs to have now! and ofc that led to endless shitty movies trying to replicate marvel, who are not that great.

You can't have superhero fatigue when there are still successful superhero movies. The movies that fail are garbage and deserve to fail and it isn't just superheroes that are doing it. Pretty much everything Disney puts out tanks at the box office. Maybe there's Disney fatigue, but not superhero fatigue.

Couldn’t agree more with you my man! And there’s proof to back this up, the Spider-Man movies, guardians of the galaxy three. these movies made money and were well liked superhero films. proving that if you make good content we will go and watch it! And it’s all thanks to their track record as to why people won’t go and see their new films. They butchered so many that came before there’s simply no reason to trust them not to do it again!

Yeah I agree, you can point to many things but I honestly think it comes down to just bad writing like you said. The Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Across the Spider-Verse is sorta proof that people aren't entirely feeling that super hero fatigue. Yeah I'm sure there are some that feel that way but at the end of the day these movies are badly written.

I watched the last 20 min. of FLASH waiting for Indiana Jones 5 to start. Both movies are very high in "Wat the Fuk" content.