Your dedication for this project is next level, passing wire in a finished home is a big pain, as a fire and security technician i do it a lot, you have all my respect for wanting to pass wire in your house, it’s turning out looking amazing, can’t wait to see the final result
WOW and I mean WOW!! While I’ve seen many a rough homemade system across RU-vid in many folks homes this has to be without a doubt: the first real to-life home fire alarm system from the ground up. I bet even the folks at Honeywell would be very impressed by this as its very carefully and professionally done bit by bit the whole way. Can’t wait to see Part II(5)
This has been a great video series from the start. Being an alarm technician myself, I always enjoy seeing video projects from others. This will definitely be a HUGE safety upgrade for you and your family! Great work so far and I am looking forward to the final result!
This system is looking awesome! Honestly, you have an amazing career ahead of you with your talent. When I was younger, I had fire alarms wired up in our old townhome. I actually made a homemade panel with a lot of help but my setup was always just for fun, not actually for life safety. What you have done in both your garage and now in your house is 100% professional. The people you work with must be so impressed with your skill. Keep up the good work. I love your videos and I'm sure they will inspire many as they have definitely inspired me. They are also a nice to reminder of my old hobby. I still do like fire alarms and electrical stuff in general though. I'm also very much into tracking power outages so I really appreciate those videos you have done as well. Looking forward to your future videos and projects.
That's pretty cool what you did homemade systems are always cool to see as it's some thing I can't do I don't have enough knowledge with electronics and micro processing and thank you very much for the support I'm glad you enjoyed I appreciate it
I can't remember the details I may have been jumping ahead one address to leave room for the duct detector or there may have been a dual address set really can't remember
For the duct detector, you can install it in both return and supply, just if you're doing a single it's got to be on supply. There's some arbitrary CFM number (US) where it is required to be on both and I think that also applies if a single unit supplies for more than one story.
Hey Nick, their is a significant difference between the two detector types. The A suffix on the FSP-951a denotes the detector having a ULC listing instead of a UL listing. The detectors without the A suffix are not ULC listed therefore depending on your AHJ, may not be used in your system. Hope this helps!
@@nics-systems-electric yes! However if you go to apply for home insurance, they may see this system and request proof of verification for coverage. Insurance companies suck like this. Just something to think about.
@@embeddedgirl yeah I get what you're saying the system won't be used in a way to try and get lower insurance it'll just be like having a security fire combo where it's not a CAN/ULC s537 verified system our insurance seems to be extremely laid back here they never come out for any visual assessments or ask what is there it should go to show how concerned they are since they don't care that almost every home built between 1970s to early 2000s have federal pioneer panels which should be a much bigger concern than UL and not ULC listed detectors just my thoughts 50% of the houses I've been in don't have any working smoke alarms so I feel pretty good about my set up don't know what it is here maybe it is because insurance doesn't care but there are some pretty scary stuff around here
Looks to me like the difference between the detectors has to do with manufacture location. Some of your detectors were manufactured in Mexico, while some were manufactured in India. All in all, nice work! This is shaping up to be a pretty neat system.
As a security and Fire alarm installation tech, For the smokes and any other modules i use just red and black and use the blue and brown for backup. i do that because if bad weather comes round and somehow red and black are no longer useable, you will have brown and blue for a backup. I wirenut both blue and both brown from feed to feed for this also.
I was not using parallel pairs in this case I was using all conductors for the loop style wiring where it is not T tapped in other situations though where there are extra conductors I will leave them as spares for sure
The dedication you put in the install in the house of your family, so neat, so well installed, if you are not going to be a expert in fire alarms, i don't know it anymore. Great video! And your family is very safe now! Question, how much does such a install cost about?
Thank you very much I appreciate the support as many don't like what I have done here. Though I think it is a good thing some don't but oh well. Cost is right around $3000 Canadian that excludes boxes and wire as I already had all the wire and some of the boxes I also already had the panel guts the 320 which is probably another $2000 to $4000 so already having that saved a lot of money
@@nics-systems-electric well, everybody has their own opinion and that's fine i think, if it remains at a bit of feedback, it's your project, it's your choice, not theirs. Make use of the feedback, and thank them for it, it makes you better at your job. Home Safety should never be underestimated, that's the reason i installed co2 and smoke detectors in my parents house recently, the dutch law has a obligation for smoke detectors now, i've added co2 as extra. 4000 is a lot of money for a residential project, i hope you had some help financing it.
Two smokies are #3? You said both the first two you put in where 3. Awesome to see devices going in. Love the white soundstrobe to blend in better. No such thing as a white pull station?
Nic I feel like the next thing you will be installing in your house will be sprinklers connect to the fire alarm control panel just like in the garage.
Yeah it would be a nice thing to have but really difficult in a pre-existing finished structure the second floor wouldn't be too bad but the first floor would be impossible without damages being made
No that would be extremely overkill and expensive as I would need two breakers one 30 amp and one 100 amp. It can all be done with just a ice cube relay
19:36 the difference between those 2 seems to be that the older one was made in Mexico, and has the ULC logo listed, whereas the newer one says it was made in India, and it could be either a U.S. version or something like that, since the return address is listed as Honeywell’s US location, not the Canadian location.
Hey, I do have a suggestion as far as your garage goes that is built on to your house (if you keep a car or decide to keep a car in that garage at some point) I would install a CO detector in that garage so if the car is left running or unexpectedly fired up, or I guess if something happens in general, because since those L-Series Low-Frequency Sounders have Temp. 4, you would be alerted of a CO condition in that garage. I don't know, just an idea.
You cannot physically fit a car in the garage the temp4 on the sounders is only one or the other you can't use one device to do both codings so it would require separate sounders
It definitely has better functionality and performs better than a residential system but the cost is probably not justifiable for me if I wasn't able to make videos to recoup some of it I don't think I would be doing it
Notifier also sells Wireless System Sensor L Series Low frequency sounder and horn for ceiling and wall so you don't have to run wire for existing building with no fire alarm system and don't want to cut holes
Yeah there's a couple problems with those though one being expensive and I believe you need verifier tools to program them and they aren't legally listed for use in Canada however I would like to get the opportunity to work with them at some point
@@nics-systems-electric I hope Canada Approves it in the future for wireless fire alarm and also i live in the US and it costs more in canada than the US according to your "Why no announciator" Video for your garage system, So Wireless SWIFT®️ Wireless by notifier is not an option for canada, KEEP UP THE WORK NIC! I hope there is a Test video of the House system and i hope you don't get false alarms by the fire alarm
System’s looking great so far! Any reason why you went with the P2WL-LF instead of the P2WLA-LF, and the FSP-951 instead of the FSP-951A for some of the detectors? Looks like System Sensor decided to go with the clear dust covers for the FSP-951 detectors and the orange dust covers for the FSP-951A detectors. Why they decided to go with different colors for the UL and ULC versions, I do not know.
Thank you very much. Mostly just what was available good luck trying to find a bilingual white low frequency sounder they're hard to find as is so I wasn't worried about it as far as detectors it came down to cost again with what is available
@@nics-systems-electric Ah yes, the classic problem of cost. Now, what I don’t get is if the NBG-12LX can be UL/ULC listed, then why can’t the detectors and notification appliances be too?
@@HenBasketFireAlarms who knows I fully trustthe UL only listed ones on my system I will still sleep at night fine. probably a money thing somewhere that's caused the different listing usually where most things come from
@@nics-systems-electric yeah, I don’t doubt they’ll work just fine. Just weird that Honeywell would dish out the money to dual list the pull stations, but not detectors or signals. Now, if the detectors refused to work, that’d seem more like a Simplex thing than a Honeywell thing
Hey Nick, where do you get your system sensor horn strobes from? I want to use a System Center horn strobe, but I don’t know where to find it. Do you have any website recommendations or any places you get them from?
We don't seem to have too many problems with malicious alarms here it definitely happens in the schools from time to time but not too bad they seem to know better
That's interesting I didn't really think about that but I thought I've seen orange ones in the US before which would seem odd for them to have the Canadian version but maybe not
Can you please also add a carbon monoxide detector in your house and a voice evacuation system and to customise with your voice and with a battery backup
@@nics-systems-electric Where Will The Three Horn Strobes Be Installed At I Know The Sounder Strobe Installed In The Hallway And A Horn Strobe In The Garage But I Don't Know Where The 3rd Horn Strobe Is Gonna Be Installed At
@@michellebertrand7702sorting the comments by "newest first" will show all comments in order from when they were posted. hope that clears up the confusion
Because it provides better functionality and different options that I can't get with residential smoke alarms and does things that I need to do that I can't do otherwise and is used for training and demonstrations
