Home For The Holidays With Your Toxic Religious Family 

Right! "Happy Holidays" covers all your bases in case the person you're talking to celebrates Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Yule, or something else but it's not anti-christian. Even christians celebrate New Year's.

It is. It's at least covering Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, and New Year itself. Given that Thanksgiving isn't as standard as the other four, that much varies. If they want to talk about a war on christmas, the only legitimacy they really have is in French language, that I know of, where we say "Happy Celebrations!" ("Joyeuses Fetes", and "Fete" means birthday, anniversary, and party at once.) and this time is the "time of celebrations" ("temps des fetes").

i've always thought it was just something to say when you don't know what holiday someone celebrates, plus it's just an easy way to say both merry christmas and happy new year

Happy Holidays being perceived as anti-Christian is fairly recent propaganda. The majority of people in America celebrate Christmas. Even I do and I have been atheist or agnostic identifying for almost as long as I can remember. It’s such a ridiculous notion that it’s under attack.

Yeah it’s frustrating

Right?? I’m a God-believer and it’s called voicing concerns, which is different from attacking them.

oh noooo not muh wholesome 100 jewirinos or atheirions!!!!!111!!1! DDDD:

Try being pagan lol Christians love to take our holidays like Easter and Christmas

@@fireflybutton1939 actual cope

@@ghostram7900 u do know jesus was born in the summer but Christians changed it to erase pagan traditions and convert pagans right? The census that Mary and Joseph traveled for was always held in the summertime

I do not think I have ever heard about someone being offended by Merry Christmas. I say Merry Christmas and I have said it for 10 years and have said it thousands of times. Probably around 150 times a day for 25 days for the past 12 years... nobody is offended.

It more like Christian nationalist.

When the mythical "War on Christmas" has been mentioned by some American wingnut on the social media I use, my response is to cite the one group which actually _did_ outlaw Christmas: those godly, founding heroes of the USA, the Pilgrims. Contrary to what Americans are taught in primary school, the Puritans were a bunch of narrow-minded, joy-hating, religious fanatics. Christmas was just another working day in the Plymouth Colony. The Massachusetts Bay Colony went further and made Christmas celebrations illegal. As far as the Puritans were concerned, there was nothing Biblical about Christmas, and they were well aware that the religious aspects of Christmas were nothing more than a veneer of Christianity overlaid on ancient pagan winter solstice celebrations.

Tbh I had some crazy Jehovah witness physics teacher tell a kid off for saying Merry Xmas in her class but that is the only time I ever heard someone get mad about saying Merry Xmas and not happy holidays.

It's just more of the christian persecution complex.

My dad and his siblings weren’t allowed to watch Miracle on 34th Street because the mother was divorced.

@@glamourchick21 I was surprised that Doris Walker was a divorcee in the original movie because divorce was taboo in the movies I think. I know that it was taboo in television up until the 1980s!

In this case I feel sorry for the devil! 😆😁😄

Wow. To each their own. 😎. That’s fair, eh?👍

Wow, how did you guys survive? I didn't even know any religious people growing up so this blows my mind!

For Chistmas, i'm gonna rewatch 'The War on Christmas' by Hbomberguy. And You?

I'm gonna start using that occasionally. I'm cool with telling people *"happy [whatever they celebrate]"* back regardless. Mostly out of respect for a culture I'm not a part of, & in my case I don't usually hear that from family. It's being tolerant of strangers and friends for me.

It's very liberating to come out of rhe atheist/agnostic closet to your religious family. It hurt a little bit, but I got fed up at age 32 and straight up burned out "yeah I don't really know if there is a god." I could hear the pain and bargaining in his voice. Because at the end of the day. I truly think my dad loves me so much but suffers from the fear of hell. He eventually stopped including most religious motto's in cards or voice-mail. So I think my mom eventually told him to knock it off. I heard through my gf of 5 years that she thinks mother told my dad to basically stop with the religious pressure on your son. Because she just wants to be apart of my life. My gf is bisexual. And I was just apart of my two lesbian friends wedding in September. If there is any kind of homophobic inuendos to ever come our of my farhers house, then I'm done for good. However, I don't think I've felt this relieved in a long time. Hope everything gets better for you.

A good response

I'm Atheist as well...I don't take offense when people tell me, God bless you...I just take it in stride...😏

I normally don't respond with just this............ but LOL.

What about "festivus", the holiday for the rest of us?

Hell yes they do!

This is the exact accuracy I pettiness I require. Thank you.

Dark matter 2525

Yeah, she was worried he was gonna break all her ornaments, play with a blowtorch, and cut a giant hole in the foyer floor. He really messes up that house! :p

We love mrs McCallister!!! Merry Christmas guys

I remember at the end Buzz was ready to kill Kevin because he destroyed his room!

Fellow trans guy here, why even go? Why bless them with your new self when they act like he is dead and you don’t even exist? Refusing to get it right after so long is an act of hatred towards you that you don’t have to subject yourself to.

I know this is a terrible situation but if ya hace ti go, maybe use it to fuck with thier perceptions of gender ???? Like really make it so you are actively pissing them off every time they bring up a gender stereotype snd how you prove it wrong. Like if they complain about a wife or daughter or sister who didn’t shave you could say “why would they change Whar god give them” and give them death eyes the entire time lol

I'm sorry there is something so hilarious about someone trying to bully you by calling you she when you have a *full beard* Whoever tries that should feel like a fool. Its like "okay grandma, you're fighting a losing battle here, we're pretty far past this point" It sucks they don't respect you, clearly something about you knowing who you are makes them deeply uncomfortable with themselves, and they have to hide from that feeling by trying to make you not real. Its bullshit, its pathetic for them.

oof

I am so sorry, best wishes from be and my trans brother!

Not just any group religious people, but Christians no less… they play the victim card a lot, despite having the literal advantage of being the most influential belief. The one that have prejudice against them can play the victim, but only to the prejudice they face.

It does????

@@anitanielsen1061 holi, holy.

A normal person: Happy holy-days! ☺️ Christians: You didn't specify ONLY CHRISTIAN holy-days! Blasphemy! No holy-days for anyone else allowed! 😡

Ikr

Another one would be this gem from a wise man: "Happy Shut the Fuck Up!"

I like to respond with "and a blessed solstice to you too"

I say Sol Invictus

I'd say, Hail Satan!

There are so many ways to say the same thing about the name of a holiday, it's absurd and kinda obnoxious for people to get angry at saying things like happy holidays.

But you can adopt 🧐

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Nice try, OP's step-sister.

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 thank you Captain Obvious 😒🤦🏻‍♀️

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 What if she and her husband don't want to? 😒🙄

Good for you! I had to do the whole "You are why I am not here for Christmas" thing with my dad, I am currently leaving my bio kin because they are not my family, not when my male parent can not be a father and wants me to get rid of my husband I am never going to marry and get a wife and kids and a dog (even though I have 3 dogs), and something something Jesus, and something something I am not actually happy, and can't you just put aside your differences for a day? because he does not know why hypocrisy is nor what irony is and so I am gone

I would too, but I'm trapped in poverty and can't actually get away from them.

@@defies4626 I felt the same, they held inheritance over my head. But if they’re really that unhealthy for you, you should cut ties.

Good for you! Some people try to hold on thinking “thats just how it is”. If they wont respect your presence, theyll deal with your absence-

You say that as if its s viable option, julie

Growing up, I was to understand that my sister and I were less important to my mom than my father, who was less important to her than God.

I know that I am fourth to my mom, behind my dad and my brothers. If I was also behind God, I don't know if I could have handled it. I have enough baggage as it is lol.

Mom always told my brother and I that we were second to god. It didnt bother me at the time. I think she'd she would say the same thing now, if pressed, about us and her grandkids, but I dont think she would actually mean it. I think she would feel obligated to say it out loud even though it wouldnt be true. Luckily for us, shes not a raging fundy the was she was when we were kids.

As a parent, until I gave it up this created guilt in me about loving my own children. I'd be like basking in how much I loved my baby and then I'd get this feeling of guilt like "YOU LOVE YOUR BABY MORE THAN YOU LOVE GOD" and it would be like suddenly I'm ashamed of loving my own damn kid. Thought control and Emotion control, two signs of a cult. That's evangelicalism. They don't have you live in a compound but they sure do their damn best to make your own brain your prison.

Why shouldn't you love God more than your kids?

For Chistmas, i'm gonna rewatch 'The War on Christmas' by Hbomberguy. And while I'm at it, just a bunch of his videos.

That's a great video lol. We always loved xmas as kids, even though I figured out Santa was really my parents when I was 6 and of course told my brother who was 3

Yeah, I always knew he wasn't real but still enjoyed Christmas very much.

My mom said she believes in the spirit of Santa. I personally think it’s a good explain to kids for atheist parents

My dad’s parents always spoke of Santa as a nice story about Christmas charity. My mom and her siblings were told he was real and eventually figured it out. My mom really wanted us to believe in the magic for as long as we could, and my dad agreed to play along. No real point to my story, I guess. My parents were raised two different ways, and I don’t know that either way is ultimately better.

-Denis Prager, an actual person who is also Jewish, and as far as I know hasn’t converted, but is very defensive of Christianity. Almost like a grifter.

Someone who goes "you're just [x] you don't understand" is using some kind of fallacy. I can't *name* the fallacy but I know it's one and it's meant to discredit you. May you never have to deal with your aunt's political BS the rest of either of your lives!

@@neoqwerty Well, considering she lives like 5 hours away from my parents (and I live about 3 hours the OTHER way), and my mom and her are not on speaking terms AT ALL anymore because my aunt is a terrible sister... I very much suspect I won't be discussing politics with her again. XD

@@neoqwerty Ad hominin? Appeal to authority?

@@neoqwerty I believe the technical term is ardumentum ad fucking idiot

I have an aunt like that too

Oceania is, and has always been, at war with Christmas

Thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate rations this holiday season to 20 grammes per week.

So glad I finally read 1984 as an adult after being warned against it my whole life. This made me laugh

​@@aidantech5410people who don't want you to read 1984 are the real danger.

My parents had way more religious decorations up this year than I've ever seen in their house, and they' always had quite a bit.

yeah this is me. I'm struggling to have simple conversations with my sister because her entire life revolves around her religion so we have nothing in common

@@hannahbrinckley1163 omg me too I feel disconnected to my entire family for that reason, it's hard to find common ground when being Christian is their entire life

Regan Collins this is how I feel at every holiday. the things they say….we always have to read a bible story before we open presents because “without jesus christmas wouldn’t exist.” it is so hard to find common ground when I know what they think about me and how they try to do or say things passive aggressively towards me to convince me god is real. it’s exhausting.

Same here, homie. Wishing you the best. Happy Holidays 😄

Christians have always been the rock stars of cancel culture. They've been trying to cancel things they don't like since the beginning of christianity.

@@falkorornothing261 Cancel Harry Potter, Pokemon, Lord of the Rings, Digimon, Any anime in existence, power rangers, etc. Just a list from my up bringing.

Rap music, heavy metal, Halloween, anything Gay,

@@falkorornothing261 Anyone remembers the Index?

@@yamitsukikarasu8857 what are you referring to?

Because Evangelical Christians don't actually care about the Jewish people, they just see them as a prop to "combat radical Islam" and trigger the apocalypse. It's frustrating dealing with them, but don't let those beliefs keep you down this season!

Good thing I don't treat Jews as superior for being a certain race then. Squirm

Shame that they do support Israel to be fair. There is something about giving financial support to a state who is illegally occupying territory in clear breach of international law, as well as numerous human rights abuses every single day, that I just struggle to understand.

@@jimmyrustler5801 Ooh look I found the stupid.

I did that once when they told me they were Jewish I just said in that case happy Hanukkah i still cringe when I think of it

Celebrating Xmas is not really about religion. Most Dutch people celebrate it and christians are a minority. We just don't go to the mas part. Saying you'll sleep in, have a pyjama day, watch movies, and will eat with just your partner is fine. Most people just ask out of interest. It is fine if you say you go on wintersports too. There is no wrong answer.

Also, this holiday I'll be working and wishing hundreds of elderly happy holidays :) I don't mind, but I hope my boss has arranged some treats or hot coco.

I just say we are spending the time relaxing with family. Religious beliefs are nobody's business, and they probably weren't asking about them anyway. Wish people a Merry Christmas, or wish them Happy Holidays, nobody cares as long as you are pleasant. But I am glad to be from a part of the world that's very open minded and easy going.

If that is what get's people of your back, go for it! I can't speak for all atheists, but I think it's fine. It just seems a little funny to. I live in Germany and everyone here celebrates christmas, including atheists and other religions. Saying you don't celebrate, because you are atheist wouldn't even make sense to most people. I only know one person, who actively participates in christianity and believes, but I don't know anyone, who doesn't celebrate christmas at all.

@@creativedesignation7880 it's the same here in Australia. Most of us are non practising, but we enjoy Christmas, even many who are of other beliefs. It can be a lovely time of year and a great excuse to come together.

roasted!

That is incredibly sweet and shout outs to your sister for thinking of that!

That's sweet

Wait he’s not even Christian??

@@remyxedfern5008 nope! He's Jew!

​@@donovanlocust1106 Wow... like wow... there is something so appropriately hilarious about that tidbit of knowledge.

It takes a special kind of narcissistic megalomaniac to name a university after himself.

@@martiansonmaui1749 and to have it not exist

That was the chapter right before they brought out the rats

This needs more upvotes. I broke out laughing when she said that but I know there are a number of people who will swallow this whole.

Is that after the chapter about men in skirts?

@@romankotas448 NO NO DO IT TO JULIA SHE CELEBRATES CHRISTMAS I'M MUUUUSLIIIIIMMM!!

Same lol

Niiiice :)

Bet you they cry about it on Facebook about how the family is being torn apart by lies from Satan's media. XD

I hope school's going well for you and it's not too stressful! Happy holidays and all the good stuff~!

Tell em "Hold on,you'll get your grandbabies in your dreams"

@@qwertyasdf869 lol if they like kids that much, do foster care or volunteer. Lots of babies need hugs at hospitals. 🤷

@@alphastormeex9468 exactly

I feel ya on that. My boyfriend and I are against marriage aince we don't share in that belief and I physically cannot have kids due to losing one ovary and how severe my endometriosis gets. My dad kept asking my sisters and not me directly about why I don't wanna do those things since my answers are not legitemate enough.

That's a far better name than "Christmas", particularly when history is considered.

People don’t actually care in America either (I mean in real life). I have never in my life seen anyone actually bothered by hearing “happy holidays”. In downtown Seattle there is a giant “Merry Christmas” sign that they put up every year. No one. Cares.

Where Iive we use the word "Jul" so basically the same word as the vikings used, which supposedly is pronounced more like "Jol". And that is the word basically everyone use. I am not religious and neither is my family, and we celebrate. But we don't celebrate christmas, we celebrate the mid winter, and that the sun is turning and that the days will start to grow lighter again. Which is very nice given where we live and the fact that the winter is super dark here. It's also nice to have an excuse to meet family and friends to eat good food and such. I'm not saying that you need to change anything about how you spend the month of december, but there are ways to celebrate and meet family or friends, or reasons to celebrate that has nothing to do with christianity. After all they stole the entire holiday to begin with.

@@asmodiusjones9563 you are so lucky. I have to deal with coworkers who do the pointed Merry Christmas.

@@nerium.nerium you should tell them “merry Xmas” instead. Then when they get huffy about taking Christ out of Christmas, explain that X is actually chi (pronounced ‘kai’), the first letter in the Greek word Christ.

If it works out, that is perfect. :D Depends on who much both sides of the family talk to each other. :D

Good excuse. Does not work where I live though (2 Xmas days). But my ex his parents did not celebrate christmas (Jewish Atheist) and my parent didn't think of it as super important either. I was still surprised by how little his parents did even compared to mine. We did celebrate with just the two of us some of the time

😂 way to go lol

lol

Wtf is pureflix

@@savannahm9943 Netflix But all the shows are knock offs of better films with Christian messages hamfisted in haphazardly and all star the same blonde guy who owns part of the service

Damn, Shion, I'm so sorry. That shit really is hurtful. You know they dont really enjoy that awful, talentless, uncreative, unoriginal, shallow and petty propaganda. How could anyone?!

@@savannahm9943 NickDiramio reacted to a couple of PureFlix movies, and series if you want to see some of there stuff

@@LainWithSweetTea In return bro, just show them some Dan Barker clips to get them to think. Sorry you and your wife had to go through that smh.

As the high priestess of the Church of the Algorithm I bless you this Christmas

This is my interaction

Praise be!

@@shadowcween7890 may you be blessed

@@haruhisuzumiya6650 thinks my high Archpriestess.

No he didn't

@@emeraldpenguin6545 Yes, actually, they did. We had been studying our solar system. Understanding how seasons happen is really easy with the right audio/visual tools. Understanding that religion is just made-up bs is also quite easy, if one is logical.

And everyone clapped

@@SpaceandGoats No one clapped. But husband and I were beaming with pride. Grandpa looked confused.

Lie to me about a guy who knows if I've been bad or good, don't be surprised when I don't believe you about the *other* guy who does the same thing.

I lost my faith 1 hour after being told Sinterklaas, one of the ancestors of Santa Claus, wasn’t real XD

For Chistmas, i'm gonna rewatch 'The War on Christmas' by Hbomberguy. And while I'm at it, just a bunch of his videos.

@@nenmaster5218 That's my annual go-to for Christmas joy as well. :)

@@TiffyVella1 Epic

Ah, but do you do it the right way (12 days starting on the 25th) or the wrong way (12 days ending on the 25th)? See, my solution is to do both.

Good to see someone upholding the Old Ways! Wassail, friend, drinkhail!

So you're ultra conservative? Virgin conservatives want to return to the sixties. Chad conservatives celebrate according to the Old Ways

@Alias Fakename Wait wait wait I need to hear more about the crossdressing part!!!

Happy birthday, very real person. 🥳

If Jesus was a real guy, he definitely wasn't born on Dec 25. I don't think that it's a coincidence that Christmas is so close to the winter solstice (Dec 21). If I was your close relative, I'd make a point to celebrate your birthday over that of some pro-slavery hack who supposedly died on a cross (not an uncommon occurrence 2000 years ago).

@@choronos I grew up in a predominantly Christian country that takes Christmas seriously, so even my friends override my birthday with Christmas. Thank you, dear stranger. You were the relative I wish I had.

@@finnilyenough Thank you so much. It's near the corner. :D Thankfully, I now have a husband who doesn't give two hoots about Christmas and actually celebrates my birthday. Growing up is nice sometimes.

Omg! Happy early birthday! 🎂🎉 I have a December birthday too, near the beginning of the month. As a kid, I'd have my birthday skipped and grouped together with Christmas, or just not done at all. I'm sure it's much worse for you, I'm sorry.

I was struck by that too. I haven't yet worked out the psychological mechanism, but it's obvious that they're triggered by kids being encouraged to believe in a supernatural being who patently does not exist. I suspect cognitive dissonance comes into it somewhere, and this is a coping mechanism. Deep down, many - probably most - of these scammers/preachers have to know that they're spouting utter drivel. Maybe going through the absurd motions of denying the existence of a very obviously fictional supernatural being makes it easier for them to justify the existence of the supernatural being they're desperately trying to believe in? I don't know. It's very weird. I wonder if they also stand on their stage and rant about the nonexistence of the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.

No no no, Santa Claus isn't real, but the creation totally happened, it's in the Bible. Santa Claus is taking the focus off what Christmas is really all about. How dare people replace our beliefs with such a blatant fairy tale -- don't people realise their kids are going to grow up believing in Santa Claus and then find out he's not real, and then they're going to do the same thing with God and Jesus?

And in case I wasn't clear, please know I'm being 100% sarcastic.

@@allanmason3201 The best explanation I've found is that, somehow, they're perceiving Santa as a "rival" for Jesus. The fact he's based on St. Nikolai and that's *bad bad evil Russian stuff* might also have to do with it, there's so many relics of the Cold War still sticking out of US and Russian interactions, it's hard to determine what's leftover propaganda when these two intersect.

@@allanmason3201 from personal experience, they definitely have the same reaction to the Easter bunny.... Lol!

Man that sucks, I hope you enjoy the season with those you choose to be with and the ones you love

Your mother is just a lame sad boring adult child,just dont give her attention and go be happy,also hope you enjoy presents day and new years with your gf.

I prefer the term "tall baby" over "adult child" but I'm otherwise here to echo Qwerty Asdf. Best of luck to you, setting boundaries is hard to set up but deeply rewarding once firmly established.

@@chaosvii tall baby lmao i have never heard that before and i like it so much thank you

Had a similar Thanksgiving and Christmas… for the past 2 years it’s just been my husband and our 2 kids… needless to say it’s been “ Happy 😃 Holidays “. It’s about peace, happiness, love ❤️ & self acceptance. Totally worth it.

Same here tbh. I hope its kind on you

God you sound like a whiny teenager

What do you hate about it? I think it is strange how Jesus seems like a total "Communist", but here in the USA, wealthy people treat Jesus like Santa Claus---and all our nations are heads up asses with gifts and "The Grinch's message" seems totally abandoned by people when we are struggling to pay bills and such and have to also buy Christmas gifts? Jeeez. Pressure....

I've always been way too stressed out by Christmas. So much pressure, especially on poor families. Not a fan. I've found more joy in celebrating the winter solstice: sharing warm drinks with loved ones after a chilly walk on a trail; appreciating the beauty of the dark, barren stillness; turning inward for reflection or reading; welcoming the returning light (since the daylight hours begin getting longer again after winter solstice). I hope you can find your own traditions that are meaningful this time of year so all the focus doesn't have to be on Christmas. Good luck.

I don't hate Christmas. I hate how many people choose to celebrate it, and I hate how commercialized it's become, but I still like the _idea_ of Christmas, or at least what it means to me. I like the aesthetic of the decorations, I like the food traditions, I like all of the Christmas lights on people's houses. I LOVED being off of school for nearly 2 weeks. I used to like the gathering of family, but as an adult this aspect of the holiday has soured significantly for me. I won't be attending my family's Christmas this year because they live too far away, and that's a bit of a relief, because my least favorite part of Christmas has become the stressful interactions with extended family. My roommate and I are going to trip balls all day on Christmas and watch Christmas movies, which will help me recapture that magical feeling Christmas used to give me as a kid. Thinking back about everything I liked about Christmas, the presents were just icing on the cake. Every year around the start of December, the decorations would start going up around the house. My mom would start to play our traditional Christmas mix tape with all the familiar classics on it. We'd start doing the advent calendars. I hated having to sacrifice a whole afternoon to decorate the tree, but it was fun to unpack the various ornaments from their boxes; they all had memories attached and were like old friends. Such as the wax gingerbread man that smelled like freshly baked cookies and vanilla that forever has tooth marks, because as a small child it smelled so good I wanted to taste it. Closer to Christmas, family would start to arrive and pack the house for a few days. For a few days out of the year, the house was full of life. Christmas gave me a feeling like sitting by a cozy fire in a cabin high in the Alps, snowed in by a blizzard, but there's plenty of food, entertainment, and good company.

if that doesnt, work and you do get confronted. literally tell them to shut the fuck up right to their face, out loud, in front of everyone. just stop them dead in their tracks. if you have never done that before, that will cause the entire family to pause. since its such a new thing, if anyone clutches their pearls cause of swearing, so be it. if all the younger kids in the family have to hear their bullshit that can actually be dangerous, then im sure they can also hear swearing and be fine.

You had no say in the family you were born into and you have no control over the people they now are or what they do or say. Some people have the great good fortune to have been born into wonderful families full of amazing people. For most of us, the choice is between either figuring out how to deal with the shitty people in our families, or deciding that it's best for everyone if we either slash those ties in some dramatic act or let them wither through neglect. It's a crap time of year to be alone, since there's so much BS coming from all directions about happy, shiny families enjoying joyful times around the Christmas tree and sitting down in harmony at the family Christmas feast. In reality, that's a total fantasy for the vast majority of people.

I speak from experience. While it certainly won't get easier for you (I'm the literal devil according to my ⚪ family members); it will certainly get better. For you. And that's what matters. You made the right choice.

You're an adult now, you can pick your own family. You aren't stuck with family at all. Once you're your own person, if your family is toxic, you can drop them from your life. I'm sure you know that, I'm just reaffirming it for you so that you know that there's others out there who won't judge you for it.

The beauty of being human is being able to choose who you want to be around. This is also my first year away from my blood relatives for the holiday season. My relationship isn't quite as bad but I moved recently to get away from my old life. I've had to cut out toxic family members and lost several friendships but, generally speaking, the people around me are supportive. I've had to set boundaries and I sometimes have to remind people, but it's my only life and I refuse to spend it with people who make me miserable any longer. Edit: Hit enter instead of shift+enter. Happy Holidays stranger, stay warm.

Good for you! Happy New Year!

Christmas makes money. That's why they cling to it.

It's because, like some others here have pointed out, the logical conclusion to draw from this information is that we shouldn't celebrate Christmas - which is exactly what the Puritans did. They outlawed Christmas and Christmas celebrations. Of course, that's not very marketable, so naturally, modern evangelicals choose to simply ignore the truth.

@@ilikecookies9796 Ah, yes. When in doubt with Evangelicals, especially those leeched on the Conservative/Republican party...ALWAYS follow the $$$$$$$$.

The people botching about those books being cancelled A. Don’t remember/ignore the Cat in the Hat teaching kids about how sometimes rule breaking is ok B. Need to read the Sneetches, the Zax, Yurtle the Turtle, and Horton hatches the egg.

it's not just you i 100% agree please just let the kids do their thing amirite

It's indoctrination kinda, right? Like, for those preachers and people who align with those preachers feel personally attacked when people don't think exactly like they do. Hence the Marxist (or another Boogeyman they don't understand) accusations when you don't think the way they do. They're trying to scare and force people to think like them, because it's scary to THEM to think differently.

Yeah, and if the parents find out, they will drag you away to your DOOM! 😈 .....sort of joking about that last part.

Also Santa is based of a very real person aswell.

Santa Claus is actually based on a true person, who’s a Saint, so that’s kind of blasphemous 💀💀💀

Yeah, I stay in a hotel when visiting family as well. I need space to decompress from all the togetherness lol

Well, here in America, we make up reasons to be angry at gays, blacks, mexicans, brown people and poor people. So, if we want to take a generic greeting or farewell and twist it to fit a narrative to discredit and demonize our political or social enemies---we are going to do that, because God gave us the land we took!

@@n.h.moreno 😂👏👏👏👏

@@n.h.moreno They are angry at so many... makes it sound the only ones they are not angry with are the dog and cousin Ed ;)

@Alias Fakename No. "Feier" = celebration, party, ceremony. But "Feuer" = fire ... pretty close :) "Tage" = days. "Feiertage" = holidays

Wait, I'm sorry, second Christmas day? There's a second one???

Why is their sale purpose in life seemingly to make other people upset? People they supposedly love? Like what is the goal of saying that to you? I don't see any answers that doesn't break down to "to make you upset" and just ugh why?? Why be assholes 😐

I mean to be fair the salvation army is pretty bad so.

To be fair, I'd also be pretty salty to learn that the charity I donate to is being some flavor of bigoted and inform everyone within earshot that they're garbage, GARBAGE!!! like the dramatic theater kid I still am at heart.

Dude... my 65 yo uncle cannot let the Aunt Jemima thing go no matter how many times my brother and I have tried to explain marketing and demographics

Anyone who idiotically says “Let’s go Brandon” will automatically trigger a “FUCK TRUMP!!” response from me

For Chistmas, i'm gonna rewatch 'The War on Christmas' by Hbomberguy. And while I'm at it, just a bunch of his videos.

That's lovely! I hope you had a nice chill time with your sister.

As an introvert, being raised in a family of extroverts and in school systems that felt if you were a natural introvert, then something was wrong with you, it was pure Hell. I find most of my waking adult life is spent trying to actively avoid suspect, or outright extroverts, but it's worth it, because the peace is unsurmountable. What's "boring" to an extrovert is Heaven to me and the people I hang around. If I must deal with them, it's short and sweet. ONE extrovert in my life is more than enough, that's how draining they are to me. In fact, 95% of my life's problems have *ALWAYS* been linked to an extrovert or a group of them and their antics. It's actually kind of surreal. Like WHY is it like that? Is it them? Is it me? They leave me wanting to pull my hair out, yet I want to get them hell away from most of them, I make them want to pull their hair out, because I won't cooperate with their extrovert schedule planner, yet they still want to hang out with me, because hey, I'm still a "body" they can talk at at least and there are some things about me they'd like to utilize as a public event. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. No thanks.

Another cashier here it's very entertaining watching these clowns freak out 😂😂

Also happy holidays 😊

@@beepboop663 Happy holidays to you too

Japan's honestly the reason why I stopped celebrating Christmas as a Big Deal and campaigned with my family to move the Big Deal to the New Year, successfully I might add! I'm from Quebec, we have a HUGE folkloric tradition around New Year and mixing that with just celebrating New Year as the big winter celebration made things a lot better. There's just something about all the presents coming out exactly at the end of the countdown while there's party poppers and confetti and silly string getting blasted that gives everything a bigger *oomph* than the tranquil morning unwrapping ceremony...

Didn't China buy Christmas and don't they own it now? 😅

​@@katherineg9396you don't eat KFC on Christmas in China

Or right before where he talked about not liking Klondike Bars since they had a Polar Bear and called them extinct. No, they are endangered. I'll bet you anything that he doesn't like that Washington football team can't seem to come up with a new name because Redskins is...kinda offensive towards Native Americans.

For Chistmas, i'm gonna rewatch 'The War on Christmas' by HBomberguy. And while I'm at it, just a bunch of his videos.

I'm sorry you're going through that, I can only imagine how hard that is. Lean on your friends, it's how I keep sane at the holidays

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Actually, not suprising, sometimes it is the strong aversion of the parents which results in the kids pursuing it themselves

@@neowild excuse me? are you trying to imply that gay people are gay out of spite? I am genuinely baffled

@@lifeontheledgerlines8394 No, it's more like when a concept becomes taboo it is often an object of more desire. When something has been so disallowed that brining up the concept causes it to be hushed away the kids want all the more to know why that is the case. Sometimes it could be pursued in spite if the relationship between parent and child is rocky enough but mostly it's just a desire to see what this taboo thing is. This phenonimon is seen with things like drugs where parents forbid the mention of drugs and then when kids encounter it outside of the home they are drawn to it out of curiosity and then become drug addicts. Similarily not all homosexuality comes from birth. A kid could stumble upon such a taboo and decide to explore it and choose it because to becomes what they know, especially in an era where we are telling kids that this kind of thing is what they should form their entire identity around and being anything but straight is something special that they will receive praise and adoration for.

Not to mention how confusing it was that my mom said Santa was real but my Sunday school teacher said dinosaurs were make believe.

Comunist is when no chrismis

Honestly, Jesus was not the only kid having his birthday that day. If I ever have a kid on Xmas, the kid will be celebrated first. Jesus can be celebrated on second Xmas day then.

* I know Jesus probably was not born on the 25th of december. Also, birtdays were not really a thing back in those days and that culture I think. Santa's "birthday", 6 December, is actually his death day.