@@apache4541honestly if they gave the new accord the front end from the inspire (the chinese version of the accord) and a 2.0T trim, this new generation would be a huge hit. the inspire keeps all the best parts of the new front end and fixes the worst ones, you should look it up.
And it hurts me that audi is been done wrong by its manufacturer, honestly it hurts me to see an Audi being put against a Toyota, nothing wrong with Toyota but I'd prefer a Lexus instead. This really hurts my feelings 😢😢😢
true, and that's actually a product of Audi's highly aggressive launch control. Without using launch control the 0-60 time is 5.6 seconds (about the same as the TRD Camry).
@@carterbasile1720put it in Dynamic Mode. Put traction in Sport mode and hold the break with gas till it builds the boost. And then let the break go and have fun!
That Honda Accord setup with wheels and exterior mods look good. Honda did a good jump putting down the power with the turbo. I believe the accord has close to 300 horsepower, but Honda kept its real horsepower a secret. That Audi AWD shot off quick from a dig. Good race!
It doesnt.I own one,they put down 252hp and 272 tqs at the wheels on 91 so thats about 270-275 crank and about 290 tqs.The audi is about the same but it has a better transmission,the camry is just slow lol.
@@alpe6228 I have an a5 45 sb... love it. But that accord is a nice car and by no means slow... Neck in neck from roll did not look slow to me. From a dig is not slow either... Just not AWD
@@alpe6228the accord 2.0t is the worst car there, the camry trd sounds better, looks better, handles better and it’s more reliable (i can say this because i’ve literally owned both). the accord is just garbage😂
Torque at low rpms’s! That’s why all the cars and trucks with twin turbos are the fastest. However the Camry will outlast all of them by hundreds of thousands of miles if taken care of. And I’m a huge Honda guy since my first accord in the 80’s. And. I’d still take the accord now. Reliable enough but way more fun to drive and solid feeling
The 8 speed automatic in the Camry is just garbage unfortunately. Not sure what Toyota was thinking allowing that in any of their vehicles. The Accord 2.0T is just an amazing car. Honda made a mistake by not offering it on the new models.
The Accord is underrated, it has more than 252hp, everybody knows this. And it is lighter than the Camry and it also has closer gear ratios. Audi is also underrated.
@@19hundoc47 it would be really cool to see the TRD’s V6 in a smaller sports coupe, I wonder if they’d ever put it in the Supra or the GT86 - probably never but a guy can dream, right?
Yep. Recently bought a used 2.0 sport. Put a phareable stage 3 tune on it and that paired with the 10 speed makes one hell of a sleeper. I really dont have any problems with other cars besides big v8’s and turbo 6’s.
10 speed on the Accord is an incredible transmission and makes all the difference. It was significantly faster than the 6 speed manual. I had the 6-speed 2.0T manual for 3.5 years. Had I bought the 10 speed version I'd likely still have it. The clutch was the worst I've ever had.
@@ec6843 I have yet to see a manual 2.0t Accord. I own a Touring spec in auto and it's just plain fun to drive. So many people sleep on the 2.0t Accord.
@Sam CarLegion Been a big fan of yours since your first couple drag videos. Ive spoken to you many times in your videos and on Instagram and i have told you many times to put the Accord 2.0T vs the Camry TRD and i know you tried alot because you had replied with couldn't find any at the time. I just wanna say thanks for doing this video and i knew the results were gonna be the outcome of this video. And yeah i knew that the A4 from a dig wasnt gonna be close because you have the Accord with FWD and the Audi with DCT AWD. Just not fair lol but great video. Keep up the good work and do more Acoord 2.0T videos against cars in its class. Love seeing my car perform!!!!
@@Todd.Tespecially the new evo4 in the r/s3 and gti. They make 400hp or 400whp depending on which one. With a tune and I think an intake and ic. That’s way better than the gen 3 even.
@@Whatintheworld-vk6qg The best part is the A4 is a luxury car, not a drag car. Some money was spent on that fact and at no point was the engine meant to be a selling feature. That is whan an S4 and an RS4 is for. With a tune, the car's acceleration is matching cars that are made to be sports cars. I don't own one but my buddy had a 2006 A4 2.0T which was lame to drive and a tune made it much better. He now has a 2017 A4 and he tuned it with a Stage 1 APR tune and it really moves. 375 to 388 ft lbs of torque is pretty decent. The car doesn't need exhaust or any other tricks, just a flash. My buddy's car is also fully loaded with every Christmas light and digital delight. Given it's solid feel, electronic toys, looks, tuned hp output, quattro stability, it is a nice personal space to be in.
I disagree, it wouldn't have made a difference. There are several instrumented reviews online that would say other wise. The accord is a great car for the money, but the Audi is slightly faster in every scenario.
@@jd3980 This is why I'd rather watch tuned vs tuned. And keeping the dollar value pretty much equal. 1200 dollars in mods for an accord is MUCH quicker than 1200 in mods on a Camry
Toyta fanboys gonna cry over this one Sam . I can already see it! "Oh the accord is tuned " , "toyota will outlast all of them" , "Sam dont know how to drive" and so on 😂. But the reality is , the trd is just slow. Like most toyotas.
@@Bondrkmz well yea. Toyota owners don't buy their cars to enjoy the performance. Honda owners are different. But both only keep their car for an avrage of 7 years. And I would definitely take the accord if I had to choose. But I didn't, so I got a turbo malibu 😂
@@jton1 yea I think honda realized that the 2.0 is too close to the type r , so they dropped it. It was probably the best performance/dollar you could get.
But the Toyota will last longer. Dunno how many Camry owners but them for their blistering speed. I'm freaking giddy thinking about the new hybrid only Camry and that 50 mpg... Like actually giddy
@chalelu Yeah, for sure, but we knew the 2.0t would beat the v6 camry, would have just been cool to see how the last year of honda v6 went up against the last year of camry v6
As a 16 AV6 Touring owner, would love to see this!!! If I ever plan on getting to Toronto in my Accord, I'll ping Sam. I'm still stock and only have 58k (miles) on the clock.
@@jahmanborneo1343 I’m guessing you have one of these Camrys? I have a Volvo so I have the turbo and AWD . No issues with longevity or reliability knock on wood.
@@dronepilot260rc I have the XSE with V6. Don't have a problem with turbos for the most part. They do involve more moving parts and thus greater chance of failure and more expensive repairs should they arise. I'm going to buy the D3 tuner and see what the true potential of my drivetrain is.
Criminal not to have performance mods on that car. Really good looking Accord. That being said, stage 3 tune and bigger intercooler is all it needs if not wanting to go crazy. Not only would it look the part, it would genuinely be fast with those 2 mods alone!
I had the 2.0 Accord and I loved it as a sleeper grocery getter. I got rid of it for the only other car I wanted more and that was the FL5 Civic Type R.
@@latino914debatable the 2GR wasn’t built for sports cars like the VQ has been. That being said I’d choose a 2GR simply because I know for a fact VQs are heavily abused by the people that buy them. Stock for stock I’d say they are pretty close.
I remember test driving the 2.0T Accord with the 10-spd AT when I owned a 435i Gran Coupe. The Accord truly drove like my GC in Comfort mode. It really was an impressive powertrain with a great suspension. Yes, could def tell it was FWD, but I still wish I had gotten the 2.0T Accord vs. the Stinger GT I ended up with at the time.
I like the tree, it cracks me up. Every time it gets to the last light I'm hoping that the lights are straight, but to no avail. I think Sam uses the same clip over and over in his videos. Funny and cool at the same time!
@Sam would love to see a race between the KIA Stinger GT AWD vs the KIA EV6 GT-Line Dual Motor. That would be a very close race. I owned the Stinger and loved it and traded in for the EV6 GT-Line Dual motor and love it. Just a suggestion since you don't see these 2 races on RU-vid, surprisingly.
Toyota and honda did a good job on making these new camrys and accords look fast. That accord can easily fool a lot of people into thinkin it can keep up with a RS7.
What a crazy comment on a day when Honda won the 2024 Chinese GP and is on track for its 9th WDC and WCC's, something Audi will never have the technology or quality to achieve. They aren't even on the same tier as automotive companies. The VW-Audi group is one of the lowest quality, lowest tech companies out there, a mark of the poor and interest-rate sensitive.
Hey Sam… was wondering if you could do a race between the 2020 sonata 1.6t the 2020 accord 1.5t and the 2020 camry 2.5lt Been waiting to see a race like that in like for ever You only did a race between their higher engine specs
Nice video Sam!! Just a question, are those 0-60’s times that you’re getting on the strip or are those the average 0-60 times based off of stuff from the internet? I’ve never seen anywhere that an A4 does a sub 5 second 0-60 and that seriously shocked me. Keep up the good work!
Something's off with that time. I have a b9.5 a5 sb 45tfsi. Never had under 5s... in ohio, in sumer, fall, winter... never under 5s. Until i put a JB4 on it
Same I love it when you race sleeper cars. I remember in your videos though the Accord 2.0 spanked a 330i. So I guess the A4 is faster/quicker than a 330i? Based on this video.
Ok so the Honda makes full torque at 273 pound ft at 1500 RPM and carries that all throughout the powerband meanwhile the camry makes it's full torque at 4700 RPM that puts the camry at a disadvantage already you have to rev the engine all the way up in the power band. I think this roll race should be done over with the camry manual shift revved to 4700 in the optimal gear for the MPH and RPM instead of "Auto Shift". 2 different vehicles with 2 different ways they make HP and Torque. Guaranteed it would have been a different outcome. It wouldn't have won from a dig but from a roll, it should have been the camry winning. Put it to the test Sam! Has nothing to do with the transmission. It has a lot to do with how the car makes power and torque.
I had one of those accords in sport trim with the red paint. Great car and way faster than you’d think. But that red paint would chip if you looked at it funny.
Love my 2.0T 10Speed. Have a Ktune Stage 2 tune with a intake and it sounds and moves amazing. I have surprised alot of people . Sadly tho. I want something faster. And newer. Had the car for almost 5 years now im looking into the M340 or a TLX Type s. Even tho the type s is the slowest one in its segment. But looks soo good.
For anyone doubting the results from the Accord vs Audi, here are actual instrumented times. C/D TEST RESULTS Audi A4 45tfsi Quattro 60 mph: 4.8 sec 100 mph: 12.9 sec 120 mph: 20.7 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.6 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.7 sec 1/4 mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph Top speed (governor limited): 126 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 149 ft Braking, 100-0 mph: 304 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.97 g Honda Accord 2 0t C/D TEST RESULTS Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec Zero to 100 mph: 13.6 sec Zero to 120 mph: 20.9 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.1 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.4 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.4 sec Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 102 mph Top speed (governor limited): 126 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 170 ft
I have a 2.0 Sport 10a and it’s surprisingly quick but hard to launch without tire spin, and I got bigger stickier tires than stock. A tune is in the near future and should help the roll race portion tremendously. It would be cool to put the Camry, Accord, Maxima, Kia, Hyundai, and any other front wheel drive grocery getter up to each other tournament style to rank them.
I also have a 2.ot. the stock tires are crap. I replaced mine with General G-max Rs tires. I went with 245/40/19 size. And I have stage 2 ktuner. Car gets excellent grip from launch little to none tire spin and no spin at all if I'm going 30mph and punch it. I used to lite up the stock tires even at 40mph. I highly recommend getting General tires. I had them on my 16 scat pack 392 6mt and grip was also amazing on that car.
@@djoj1986 I went with the same size tire but tried the Firestone Firehawk. Better than stock but still not sticky enough. Will keep the recommendation in mind in the future.
Honda is sandbagging the numbers on that 2.0t. Definitely had more power than 252. 10 speed helps but if a car is pulling at the top end then it is hp that makes it pull.
@@velocitywot9573 The XSE V6 and TRD are not slow by any means. We don't care that your tiny 4 banger is a little quicker. When that thing inevitably blows up and gets sent to the junk yard, us V6 Camry owners will have the last laugh as our smooth V6 is still running like new after 100k+ miles. Not to mention, that generation of Accord is ugly AF. I wouldn't be caught dead in that abomination.
@phizix5023 dumbass is hella mad look at this fool lmaoo😂😂😂😂 niga pulled up reliability instead of performance like this is loser type sh, this shows how bad is shi is the camry😂😂😂. Camry is grandma car, it will end up in the junk in 7 years and nkt the accord, imagine losing from a 4 cylinder while having a v6, thats pretty disappointing lmaooo💀💀💀😭😭😭
The only reason Honda ditched the 2.0t was because of the TLX. Honda couldn’t have a $20k cheaper cousin beat the crap out of its flagship sedan. Unfortunately, the TTV6 is heavy, but otherwise could have been an epic car.
The 2GR-FE is a a great engine in the Camry with the old 6sp AT and zero turbo issues, though the Accord 10sp AT is simply incredible. Car & Driver: 2012 Camry V6 Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.7 sec / 2021 Accord 2.0T Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.3 sec
I’ve owned the TRD with a Borla exhaust and the Accord 2.0t. I hated the the seats in the TRD Camry. The overall build quality wasn’t as good and it felt like an elbow was starting to come through the seat. The door didn’t have that robust thunk sound when I shut the door. The Accord was simply better and quicker. You could tell Toyota produces more vehicles worldwide than Honda by comparison and Toyota has to spread its resources thinner.
The sad part is both Honda and Toyota completely nerfed the Accord and Camry in the latest generation by discontinuing these engines. Sad times to be an enthusiast or someone who has a pulse
Since they killed the 2.0 Accord, they should have dropped that engine in the integra a spec for those that don't need a track capable car and want a sunroof That doesn't cost 50k
Hello. Please, drag race: Toyota higlander hybrid : 2021 years(2.5), 2024 grand higlander(2.4) and 2017 higlander hybrid (3.5). It will be interesting. Thank you in advance
A recurring theme I’ve noticed is that manual mode isn’t used when driving these NA cars you gotta have them past 5k to have any hope of winning. Those engines are spinny and coupled with a slow downshift it’s gonna hurt the acceleration
The Accord 2.0T was a very compelling car. The engine was stronger than the rated numbers, it was comfortable and had a roomy interior and it was a very satisfying car to drive at the price point. It's sad they discontinued the 2.0T option on the new car.
Apparently I can’t hear the engine revs in your Camry, but I can hear the accelerations clearly in the Honda. Do you really step on the gas pedal at all??? LOL
I raced couple of camrys v6 with my old civic with a b16 and i was surprised i would always beat them. I couldn’t believe i could beat them but they always looked for the vtec sauce 😂
@p.smallz6168 yes very hard. Bought my 21 sport 2.0 brand new 32k. If you dont have the manual i'd swap out the plastic resin upper torque nount to the oem 6mt Mt metal one. Will have less flex and keep power down. I mean right now the elantra n is a budget sleeper too but I won't go to that.
