Honda Civic Type R VS Hyundai Veloster N (Both Modified) Track Review 

Regardless of who is driving which, i'm still impressed with the Veloster N

Well Mr. Albert Biermann , used to run the BMW M division and has now worked his magic on the Huyndai really shows in Chassis development

And veloster is designed to be on track truning corners their suspension and breaks are so good I couldnt beleive it was hyundai.. they are improving a lot these days(i heard midship sports car with n badge will come soon) The best part is that in korea only hyundai allows people to go to tracks and still have warrenty

I am a Hyundai car salesman and have driven the Veloster N (performance pack 275hp) enough to know that this is one of the best handling cars that you can possibly buy under $50,000 in general, let alone for a hot hatch, it grips corners like no other vehicle has and I have driven a modified Civic type R and Focus RS and they just don’t grip the same at all

The extra 70hp and 1000 rpm of the Honda really show. That said, the Veloster is a bit of a surprise - especially when you remember the Veloster is about $7k cheaper.

FINALLY, someone testing with the same tires!!!!!

would have really liked each driver just doing hot laps in each car.

I just got my Veloster N a couple days ago. It's such a unique car it's hard not to be impressed by this thing every time I fire it up. It's far from the most powerful thing you can drive but the way it dives into corners and grips is absolutely insane and that total opposite experience of the BMW 335i I traded in for it. My BMW was a monster but I honestly believe the Veloster N would give it a run for its money on a road with a lot of bends. Who knew my first M car would be a Hyundai!

I went from a Honda fit to the Veloster N PP. the thing feels like it's on a track glued to the road, and the brakes saved me from some moron on their phone who cut infront of me. Shit stops immediately.

This video is part of why I bought a Veloster N performance over the type R. Well I enjoyed driving the Veloster way more.

even stock, the veloster N is built to spend the whole day on the track and bring you home after! I love my car

Dont forget. These vehicles have a nearly 10k difference in out the door price 😉

That veloster eating up them corners. Amazing.

The drivers should have switched cars 🤔

This was amazing! Thank you guys! I'd go Veloster N personally

I like this comparison. Somehow people still think that the Veloster N isn't a real hot hatch. This just confirms how potent it can actually be when driven hard and making small alignment changes that help improve track dynamics even more. This is even with Honda's trick front suspension geometry that almost eliminates torque steer. Both cars are impressive. I do prefer the looks of the Hyundai better than the Honda. However I have always been a huge fan of Honda's so normally I would lean my bias toward the Honda. This makes me look at things differently though. Simply because I really enjoy the looks of the Veloster more. I also think the Civic is over styled, over the top and bit of a spectacle rather than an actual beauty. I think it isn't going to age very well, but I could be wrong. Still, I would love to have either car. I just wish that Hyundai would bring over the "i30 N" instead of just giving us the Elantra Sport with the 1.6 turbo. Incase anyone isn't familiar with the i30, it is just the Elantra with a different name in other markets. However, the i30 N gets the same blue paint highlights that the Veloster N gets and it comes with the same engine as well. So imagine a Elantra Sport Hatchback with the same performance as this Veloster N. That would be a much more direct comparison to the Civic since both would be 4 door hatchbacks and both would be turbo 4 pots pushing great numbers compared to stock, using mainly tuning and a couple small upgrades for flow.

U can see why Hyundai is doing so well in rally nice to see some awsome hot hatches being tuned

Lol at the roll race.. "pretty close" *pulls two bus lengths* ...great video nonetheless!

Civic type R front end is so nice but that rear end ruins the car. Looks like a 15 year old boy designed the rear and.

Anybody else notice the type r driver had some really horrible lines? Lol

It's not all about the car. A better driver is equally important.

That WWF shirt is amazing.

As a Honda guy, I want that Veloster

Custom intake and downpipes looks like someone spray painted PVC and clamped it together. Love it. Track cars yo

Awesome video showing the extended capabilities of both cars. I love my N...the CTR is kickass as well. Anyone considering a fun and relatively affordable car should definitely take both for a spin IMHO.

Strange time we are living when Hyundai pulling away from TYPE R. "You think I'm gonna let you roll in a Hyundai?" Yes, I guess.

Its great to see hyundai making these great tuner cars. We need more!

Having test driven both numerous times, I lean towards Veloster N. both are fun cars I just can't own anymore due to my age. Yes, life comes at you fast.

I just gotta say, you guys are awesome. In every video you have such fun, authentic interactions and truly seem like you're having a blast. My favorite channel on RU-vid. I just want to hang out with you! 😂

I enjoy your track battle vids, keep them coming!

Type-R better performance. Much reliable and smooth ride. 😎👍👍👍

It’s kinda weird how people want fast track focused cars like the type r when they are going to drive on public roads 99% of the time. You’d want a street car like the Hyundai with a thousand configurations and that exhaust note.

I went into this thinking the Veloster was mincemeat. Total respect because it pulls above its weight. I'd totally rock a Veloster N.

I love the 2021 Veloster N with the DCT. It is video game fast. I can't wait to get it broke in.

"Available in North America, or Canada where we live." 😂😂😂 Canada is part of North America.

That's it! I'm putting a Veloster N in my Garage. Trading this tuned bolt on 1.6t👍😂

That is why HYUNDAI N is very famous in Europe

Awesome video. You guys have quickly become my favorite channel. I'd love to see a budget (sub $5K) car battle using cars from the early to mid 2000s. A lot of cheap fun out there. Here in CT (along with other states) the annual car tax and emissions testing keeps many folks out of more modern/higher dollar car scene. I always find myself scavenging the interwebs searching for a different favor of fun over the usual Miata or Subaru build. Something that's engaging from a visual and engine sound perspective as well as driving experience. Maybe a VR6 VW test vs ...?

Why is it everyone on RU-vid like to give the Civic an advatage all the time. It would seem to me that giving both cars the same hp and tires would be more even. It would show how good the chassis work. Honda with a 70 hp advantage on this comparison with a huge brake upgrade also made to the Honda also is a joke. Maybe the same brake upgrade done to the Hyundai, instead of talking about a brake pad change.

I think it’s more driver if anything but I really like the veloster but I’m still a Honda guy at heart

It's crazy how Veloster N is being compared to a Type R that costs easily $15k more

Torque wins drag races! I loved this comparison, absolutely wicked to see what either can do after modifications.

I'd like to see the same comparison with a wrx vs veloster n

With the way Hyundai is developing I see the new veloster N out performing the Honda’s and growing rivalry with the two pushing each other

Torque was the difference on this and I think the Veloster was set up better all around.

People don't give the JB4's enough credit.. As a piggy back ECU it's totally legit and just remove before dealer visits. The JB4 in the stinger / G70 makes them a monster (+100 hp / 100lbtq) as well as the Supra (+80hp/+80lbtq).

if you wanna go off the results its technically its 3 to the Honda and 1 to the Hyundai, but damn that Veloster N is quick. Would love to see the new Supra VS Z4

Both are very capable cars, however the Veloster N was just more fun to drive to me. The Veloster N sounds way way better. I could care less if the Type R is faster on track, to me what counts most is smiles per dollar.

TOE-MAH-TOE Idk if I would feel comfortable toeing someone's toe.. 😂😂😂 also, thanks for this track comparison!

"it's close" He said and got served at Gaplebees

That black beemer is still faster... 😁 And is still arguably nicer. That Type R would be a good match for it though. Can you make a video of them going head to head.

the steering wheel in that Veloster...an acquired taste...

3:17 It must have been very brave to scrap the stock steering wheel & the air bag for an 80's Momo steering wheel.

It'd be pretty cool if y'all could grab a cover gauge and along with the spec rundown give an idea of how the cars are aligned camber-wise

Those big ugly 20 inch wheels on the type r are so limiting. 18s and bigger tire will prevail

Big wow for veloster N for me for the looks and extra 7k for personal mod!!!!

What was the CTRs alignment? Stock alignment vs track alignment on the N (~3 degrees up front) is literally no comparison. This is a big difference I think should have been further addressed in the vid! Especially on a FWD platform where understeer is the bane of speed

Modded cars are always tough to compare - especially when put together by individuals of varying skill/resources/experience. Glad you mentioned the meth injection at the end. Big helper for consistency on turbo cars running pump gas. Hard to draw too many conclusions since the variances between cars (brake pads, meth, alignment) are significant for track use and could sway the lap times in either car's favor. Still, the N is a great value and Hyundai has come a long way - don't think it knocked the CTR off its perch yet though.

You always switch drivers and test again.

I bought a 2020 CTR no test drive offered, drove it for two weeks (was unimpressed considering the hype and cost), made the dealer take it back due to no test drive. Two weeks later bought the Velo N. The N is a better overall car. All you silly kids that leave uneducated comments drive both hard and then get back to me. N. delivers more smiles per mile. Way better value and they don't burn a single drop of oil no matter how hard you bounce them off the rev limiter. Hyundais USED to suck. They don't anymore. Be ready to shed more tears as Hyundais up coming performance cars start embarrassing established manufacturers.

Love these track battles. They remind me of Best Motoring haha

i recently picked up a 2016 veloster turbo and it's ability to grip all the roundabouts i have in town was the first thing i noticed. it sticks to the road like nothing i've ever driven

Regardless my pick Honda civic type r for reliability and value. Much less depreciation. 306 is fine for me

Long time Honda guy myself I've recently drove the velociter and it is impressive especially when you look at the price difference

Thought you guys should have swapped cars and rerun the lead/follow runs. Sorry to say it, but I think JP is just a better driver as seen by the Type R's faster lap time.

Suspension should be set to the same as well... as the Veloster had a more advantageous front camber, as you had said :). But wow, the Veloster is still a beast :)

Frs vs Rx8 vs s2000 all lightly modded!

long Opinion... from a , unexpected, Proud owner of A Hyundai 2020 Veloster Turbo Ultimate with Pinkslip and all. I traded in my Impreza 14' (base bleh) thinking of getting 2020 Accord Turbo sport(to big, not special), WRX eh expensive and still cheapy, VW(nahh), I cant drive manual all day to lack of limbs haha. This means no Type R even SI!(expensive asf). Then I found the Veloster's 'new, clean/sharp/trim' after ignoring the Fugly prior version from 2013-2016. U MUST at least get the turbo trim, it looks and comes with more features and amazing warranty which i use alot. I get 28.8 Mpg, after 6.8k miles (trip) from average to rippin it ;) but without using sport mode/high revs easy 36-42mpg. The car handles so freely, seemingly floating while hitting corners and it smart/fast. I work for a wholesale++ Auction Tech company working out of my velost. with a large virtual lift tons of tools, jump boxes, equipment. I love the surprisingly large sized trunk and 3 door design making it easy to get to my large lift through rear third door. . The compact size makes it easy to get around crowded places. Sound slaps stock too and great infotainment. Making this my first very car I plan on driving all the way past warrant expiration and or getting the 2021-22 Velost Turb N in a trade in(new 8 speed DCT i hear is awesome!). So happy driving and purty to look at.

Hovercraft fitment on the type r

Tuning for 430 torque was the right idea for this track 💪

The V turned in almost an identical lap time with 70 less horsepower. Enough said👍👍👍

Can’t believe I’m saying this as the former owner of 6 different Honda’s, including a CRX Si, that I think the Veloster is the car I’d choose. From the more subdued looks to what I think is the better chassis, the Hyundai really seems to be the new hot hatch car to own.

Veloster looks like a great set-up machine.

always love hopping in my N in the morning

I would like to see what having way more front tire and aggressive offset would do for the Type R - my guess is that you could go significantly faster - like a 265 Hoosier A6 on a 10" rim

Torque! is major key (yes, plus driver.) In retrospect i have learned from my 1986 Isuzu Impulse intercooled turbo (Black, leather interior, digital dash, infinity sound system w/ equalizer and unfortunately automatic.) Note: that really did look like a jet fighter's cockpit. Traded for 1996 Eagle Talon tsi (Red w/ Grey cloth interior - manual) Sweetheart. My next was a 2013 Focus ST that made me smile, yet - i like two door coupes.) Now, i own 2020 Hyundai Veloster N (Black w/ three doors that looks more like a coupe - manual) as my new Sweetheart that keeps making me smile in more ways then two.

Those Hyundai N models are pretty impressive for a first attempt at a hot hatch from what is a kinda mundane company. I very nearly picked up a 2nd hand i30N recently (too fast for his wife - brand new otherwise). Missed opportunity I think

I always hated the veloster when I first saw one. Year later I bought a veloster n and boy I love this thing.

"it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile"

This demonstrates that Hyundai is on the right track in building performance cars & engines. Honda has lots more years of experience of course.. But Hyundai is on to somthing positive no doubt. Good job Hyundai!😎 Ps. Shoot a track battle against Supra (stock) vs Civic TypeR !😁( modded)

Veloster N man, wtf. Did not expect that.

How do you do a comparison on modified cars. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me

I own this car theres no way hes making 400 with just those mods unless hes on a unicorn dyno lol

If the N is using a JB4 and you still have to shift at 6k rpm because it's running out of breath, it's almost gauranteed that it's because it is running one of the default maps, my guess is map 2 or 3. If it had a proper map 6 tune, the type r wouldn't have pulled away. You'd be able to use all 6,750rpm in the N, plus have way more top end power over the default map that the JB4 comes with.

Yeah, Type R needs a driver mod. With someone who can actually handle the car at it limits there would be no comparison.

you do a track alignment on the type r as well and i feel like this would be a lot closer. that N transitions so well. I would be curious for @speedacademy to test the type r with this set of tires and the OE continental. see if there is a special noticeable difference!

I think the N has more potential to be a better car when modded. That's why its TCR form performs so much better than the competitors. For the Type-R, it looks like it has the perfect balance in its stock form and that's where it shines the best against the competitors.

It's official....The classsik SAAB 900 Turbo has been dethroned as the most torquey 4 cylinder ever as a street tuned car. That Hyundai N is putting out some serious twist.

From my experience owning both a type r and N, the N feels like so many corners were cut in production. The type r is far superior in every aspect. If you’re thinking to get an N, just spend the extra money and get a far superior vehicle.

I don't know anything about tuning a Honda. From a google search, Hondata is like a reflashed ECU. I'd like to see these against each other with a real tune in the Veloster N. The JB4 on VN's makes great power above 6k RPM. A real tune is more linear and I bet they would have been even closer in times. Possibly even have the Honda trailing.

The guy in the Hyundai is a much better driver. He would have won in a Honda Fit.

I can tell the type r driver feels confident only during the acceleration tests

Love the hyundi

The N really is a good deal I mean it's well over 6k cheaper but it's just amazing

Love you guys...even the jeans shorts! *lolol*

I can’t believe the civic type R got beat by Hyundai on there first go around that’s kinda sad 😕 Guess I’m gonna get a Veloster N

The HYUNDAI for the win 🤟🏻

Curious if you guys have driven the N with the DCT. I had a 17' turbo veloster with manual. After driving a 22' N with both transmissions I choose the DCT. Been to the track and it is definitely worth a look. it is totally stock....still

Okay stop. If a car pulls like the type R did there.. 14:31 It is not close, not even kinda close. "Close" is being 1/2 car ahead, not being blown away by several car lengths. close my rear. No driver change? seriously?

The Veloster N is a better drivers car, just need a little bit more horsepower from stock, to kick the ass of the type R.