Nasu is on record stating that he wrote the anime to be the "starting point" for viewers who had no previous experience with Fate/EXTRA... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I remember inbetween episodes and after i finished the show i was constantly searching stuff up so i could understand what the actual fuck was happening. It was okay to understand at first but the more it went on the more confusing it got lmao Tbf tho, it did get me interested in Fate/EXTRA so i guess Nasu kinda succeeded in some sense
Shinji was better in the manga. I really like the part where it's revealed that he's actually an eight year old boy who thinks it's all a game and the prize is money and fame. He didn't know he was killing people, he's just an eight year old super hacker. You are now entitled to review Fate/Extra:CCC Foxtail manga in order for us viewerbase to get more Shinji.
it's also the case in the anime. He didn't think people would die when he kills them, automatically making him the most redeemable character here, then, when he came to the realization, chose to help everyone survive then died arguably on purpose against hakuno.
Back in dark ages that's fate/extra (the game), it caused some people to actually like him since when he gets defeated, he actually reverts back to kid mentality, you know, whole screaming that this is just a game, other are probably alive and well, breaking down about not wanting to die, ya know, that kind of stuff.
Shame the OP's visuals were super lack luster. If they we're even half as cool to watch like any other Fate opening it would easily be one of the best.
Nero was originally drawn by Takeuchi (the man who draw Saber and is responsible for the Saberfaces), hence why she was initially referred to as "Red Saber". It was only when Wada Arco (the horniest woman on the TYPE-MOON team and mother of Hololive vtuber, Kronii) replaced him after some time and a couple of redesigns, did we get the current look of Nero. Her actual height is actually much shorter than you think. You can see this in FGO where the child servants are either the same height or taller than her.
This anime was definitely a "wtf did I just watch?" It's supposed to get people into Fate/Extra but it's a "what if" scenario that takes place AFTER Fate/Extra in a world where the protagonist failed and died. Wtf Nasu? The only thing of worth in this train wreck has been all of the UMU fanservice.
In my experience, having Fate/Extra be the first Fate thing I engaged with and having VERY fond memories of it. Last Encore is ultimately a mixed bag whose reception will vary wildly with personal taste. There are some things that are done great like the animation/visuals and Nero, some things that are very arguable and down to personal taste like what they did with Alice and Rin and Rani, and some things that are...just bafflingly bad like everything with the Dead Face, Hakuno, and Twice. In my case I found it to be a very pretty dumpster fire. It had a lot of interesting new ideas that had a lot of potential to be great but in execution just kinda fell on its face more often than not. And the existing Extra stuff that did make it in was generally not handled super great either. (except for Nero) If the thing you liked about Extra was the plot and characters...you probably won't like Last Encore I think. If instead you were more interested in the setting than the game plot, you might like Last Encore.
Can we talk about how Gawain's awakening his master was awesome? Leo getting out of his coffin like a Dark Souls boss and Gawain's theme kicking in when he uses Excalibur Galantine was fire.
Hakuno is truly the most character of all time. He was in an anime, he was the protaganist, and he definitely was: My favorite scene was when he: and Nero was: Overall I rate this show a :
If I'm being honest, I really liked this anime even though I had no exposure to the Extra-verse before hand. Researching it simply made me appreciate Last Encore more. However, while I have defended this anime multiple times, calling it a good anime, there are problems. I think this video genuinely sums up my feelings. 1. UMU- enough said 2. Nero- enough said (perfect example of how to make great static character- not every character in your show needs to be as deep as the Mariana Trench). 3. The animation/art style- I love Shaft's work and I love the way Last Encore looks. It's not Ufotable, but the animation here is actually quite good. It's like Lunar said, you appreciate the story a lot more if you have the necessary background information. However, I still think it works, even if you don't. I honestly think it's over exaggerated how little the show makes sense, with no context. I think it's honestly just people giving up, because they got bored with the anime.
I think Nero is actually a fairly deep character, especially in the original Fate Extra. The way she opens up to Hakuno about her past life and her beliefs while learning to accept herself and helping her Master towards the same goal is honestly beautiful and easily rivals Artoria's relationship with Shirou. The fact she can put on a happy face and carry her own name with pride in the end is the result of some subtle, but meaningful character development. Honestly, her greatest achievement is being so darn lovable no matter if you perceive her as a happy go lucky girl or a commentary on humanity as a victim of circumstance. The Umu is just as sweet either way.
@@virgilthemob1242 damn, making me want to check out the game more and more. Yet, I have heard the problems with it and, while I do want to check it out eventually, I think I will wait for the Fate/Extra Record first. For one, I currently have no way of playing the original, and I also kind of know exactly what happens. Some I spoiled myself on to understand the anime, some the anime spoiled (duh) and some things I specifically tried to avoid, but internet is the internet sometimes (literally hit me with the "didn't even search for it, or anything about it, yet still gets articles and videos with spoilers in the titles or thumbnails about it- thanks recommended). But, even though I'll wait for the remake, I'll definitely play the original eventually
@@Layra151301 that's not necessarily true. It could also have something to do with Shaft's style, the type of storytelling, or the cardboard cutout of the main character. I was completely lost initially, but I still enjoyed it
One of my major gripes that I don't see anyone talk about is that since all servants that Hakuno can use in the game are canon (cause Nasu) so it sucks that they only went went with Nero cause Saber face and not give Tamamo and Archer like anything at all, even a one shot episode where we see them use their noble phantasms (Archer has probably the best UBW animation in all of Fate + the way he says it too).
Personally, I thought the Alice part was the best part of the anime apart from the ending. It's animation style was different from the rest and I'll be honest I did cry.
This anime is definitely an UMU/10. Now seriously, Hakuno is so much more interesting in the games than how he/she's portrayed in the anime. Also, in the original games you get to know Rin and Rani since the first floor before the war even starts, so they're much more compelling. What baffles me even more about this show is that it was directed by Nasu himself; dunno what he has hoping to achieve making THIS an introductionary show to the Extra timeline. Also, as I've read the comments and know you're planning on covering the original Fate/Stay Night, I'm just recommending you watch the "Learning with Manga!" Fate/Grand Order animation, even if just by your own and you don't end up making a video about it. As from the transitions you used on your videos, you at least know how the mobile game works, and it's just random stupid humor as the Carnival Phantasm series.
"many consider the greatest fate of all time" no i think your confusing this with the extra GAMES because this anime makes no sense without actually playing part of the original game and the worst thing is that ITS A DIFFRENT "ROUTE" meaning it should explain all of those things but it doesnt it just assumes everyone playd the game
@@glassesmemerman 9 Hours I only have 2 days to make a video so I only finished the video 5 hours ago before sleeping for the first time in 2 days which is kinda why this video is ass (Especially the music I gave up)
Normally an anime adaptation is meant to hype you up to read/play/watch the source material. Last Encore makes me hesitate on whether Fate/Extra Record will be worth the wait or they'll do this again. At least they pulled it off in Tsukihime, where they mainly left Arcueid's route unchanged and changed Former Worst Girl's route.
@@jvts8916 it still takes place AFTER the vanilla Fate/Extra game and technically also after Fate/Extra CCC. or more correctly after a slightly different version of vanilla Extra that concludes with a bad end.
The PsP game which the remake is based on is way better than the Anime, but I'll still enjoy my Umu's no matter what form she takes in anime. Really annoyed Grand Order is skipping around the Singularities instead of just doing them in order, Jalter needs animated, More Nero in Septium, more Drake in Okeanis, Mordred in London, Lion head Thomas Edision in America. Instead they go from the prelude to the 7th singularity confusing anyone who hasn't played the game and then after that the 6th in a two part movie. And I'm just l like I want more Umu and Drake! Also hate that Shinji gets Drake, she's too good for him
I do like this anime, it has its good points, most of the fights, the animation, Nero, the music, and I know it’s controversial, but I like male Hakuno, mostly for how his story makes you think, [SPOILER WARNING IF YOU DON’T KNOW THE STORY] with the flashback scenes he’s in not matching the present, people not recognizing him, and you start wondering what’s happing. And when you learn he’s a dead face, and you think about it, everything clicks into place and the past scenes with Nursery Rhyme and even the ones with Shinji aren’t Hakuno’s memories, and that he wasn’t alive until the stone Emiya is chasing him, which is years after the massacre, the grail war, and female Hakuno’s death
Good call on spoiling the 'story' since a lot of the negativity this show received understandably comes from those who were not introduced to the original material. I only enjoyed it because of being one of the lucky bunch to stumbled upon the game, and I'm someone who hates relying on external media to enjoy a story.
Won't lie this is my guilty pleasure of the fate series. Also really glad I played the fate extra game before watching this. Last encore is one of the most anime animes shaft has made.
Ngl this channel is gold I'm glad you made the decision to add tier lists to the videos and never took them out they're my favorite part of the reviews
Nasu's austism plus studio Shaft's La Creatividad and a small budget was bound to fail lmao. But I very much enjoyed it nonetheless. Nice Review as always Lunar.
Why anyone could think picking an alternate bad ending route to a property to be adapted as the STARTING POINT for said property is actually insane. Fate/Extra was never my personal favorite but this adaption choice screwed it over so much.
Almost finished Fate anime, now apart from tv specials and ova's like my fav "Learning with Manga! Fate/Grand Order Animation" you only need to watch Kara No Kyoukai. And maybe Canaan, wait you don't have to, or maybe actually should, I am not sure about it. Also it would be great if you reviewed Tsukihime, but it doesn't have anime adaptation so how about original Visual novel original with hentai scenes or Remake that has 50% of the story and doesn't have hentai?
@@scares3859 yeah. I saw him to Carnival Phantasm but now we also have Grand Carnival... although I think alot of it is inside jokes for mobile players
*Why Fate Extra was a Dissaster* Yep basicly they hired Nasu ( creator of the fate multiverse) to write for the anime but instead of writting a script he wrote instead pages and pages of text something like a novel. Studio shaft ( who did fate extra) couldnt transcrypt whatever the hell Nasu wrote and so we ended up with this mess.
Nah bro you hit this spot on. It makes no logical sense how they made this. I played the original game on PSP and liked it. It could've been a cool adaptation I think. But they just did a story that essentially REQUIRES you to play the game to understand ANYTHING going on. It's dumb. And makes me sad. Because I love Nero...Glad the game is getting a remake at least. Hope that's better. Also english Dub doesn't have Nero say Umu, just goes, "Indeed!" more sadness.
Ah yes, even as someone who played all three routes of Fate/EXTRA and watched what ZVN had of CCC on RU-vid as I wait for IwakuraProductions to finish the editing and testing phases of their fan translation before release, alongside completing Exetlla and Exetlla Link: I still don't understand most of this anime. But anyways have two fun facts about Fate/Extra Last Encore besides its state of not being the greatest. As stated on his blog at one point, Nasu confirmed originally Fate/Extra Last Encore was going to be an adaptation of Fate/Extella Zero. Essentially the route that lead into the Extella games that featured Hakuno with both Tamamo and Nero as their Servant and Nameless being the Servant of the opposite gender Hakuno who would've been an ISO. That said as we know, this never occurred and we don't know too much about Extella Zero besides CCC happened in its route and had Gilgamesh around as well giving one Hakuno three Servants and what I just said from Nasu's blog or in Extella. As for why this didn't occur: The Japanese fanbase had a poor reaction to Extella Zero so Nasu had to come up with something else quickly. Also there's like an audio drama CD that gives context to what happened to the original Master character they made for this anime and barely did anything with besides pair with "I'm actually 8 but this isn't CCC so I'm still a bit of a douche" Shinji, Misao Amari. Her Servant was Fenrir in the Rider Class and they died off-screen to Rin on the first floor. Also in that drama CD is where you get Tamamo, the other waifu Servant of EXTRA who is just narrator on the fourth floor they skipped telling shit to a dead Female Hakuno or something since Nasu cut her episodes and wanted to do an OVA instead and then decided not to do an OVA for her and so she got that.
As a person who played Fate/Extra years before the anime was even announced... I was so angry. - They cut half of Shinji's plot, making it start great but fall short. - The "New Girl" has her background and past explained in the middle of the Alice arc, just to cut her... actual involvement???? Way after her involvement was over off-screen??? What the hell?! We even missed Fenrir!!! (YES, FENRIR IS A SERVANT HERE) - The 4th round was filler on the original game, but they somehow managed to NOT make it filler... AND THEN THEY SKIP IT ANYWAYS. Goodbye Tamamo. - Almost all fights lost what made Fate/Extra good, the actual strategy behind most fights. They only do that with Robin Hood and somewhat Alice, everything else is an insta-win button for Nero. When they took that long hiatus after the Rin-Rani floor, I just never picked it again.
the anime actually made sense to me as i’d already played the games and had a decent amount of knowledge on the extraverse beforehand, but oh my god i can imagine the confusion if this is your intro to extra
The Alice Floor, made me think it was bad time reset floor to suffer through… but then I remembered the Endless Eight Arc from the Haruhi Suzumiya show. Now that was a cluster fuck and felt light a fever dream, because you were basically force to watch 8 episodes that were basically the same with little variations to the other 8 episodes. Which in turn wanted you to drop the damn show.
I watched this a while ago and I've gotta be honest. I don't remember a single thing that you just said happening in the anime. It's definitely one of the Fate animes of all time !
Well technically the 4th floor was tamamo apparently but honestly my real problem with the anime is almost exactly with the dies irae anime with it just trying to condense a long game into very few episodes, and like both ost Carries and one fight and the original source is better.
@@shauqiharris2772 I said Hakunon, not Kishinami, obviously speaking Hakunon is female Hakuno, and Kishinami is male Hakuno, I'm grateful for Hakunon being animated, i couldn't care less about Kishinami
Hakuno in the game : A random bit of data with actual personality. Hakuno in the anime : Some angry edgelord who is more bland and generic than Sieg from Apocrypha.
I watched this anime after Fate/Stay night UBW and Fate/Apocrypha. And while I have absolutely no clue what the hell is happening most of the time...I actually enjoy it. All the obscure story telling gave me sense of mystery that urge me to watch the next episode in the hope to understand something more. I still didn't understand all of it when it ended, but I had positive experiences about it (I did some research after that and came to appreciate this anime a bit more). Also, I agree that the op and ed songs are really good, almost rival "Brave shine" and "Last stardust" as my favorite fate opening/ending song.
@@LunarEquinox I didn’t think it was that repetitive, but you do you man, don’t let the small vocal minority tell you how to make your content, I always thought of it as a running gag throughout your channel like how other RU-vidrs have a inside joke on their channel that’s specific to them
KARA NO KYOUKAI:THE GARDEN OF SINNERS next please Lunar🙏 It's a type moon property, and it's really fucking good. Watch order isn't 1-10 on crunchyroll. It's episodes/movie 2, 4, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7 and 8 for the crunchyroll version. It'll be hard to make a satire review without saying "I have no clue what is happening, but I know I like it" but it would be fun to see your review of the movies. I hope you enjoy it if you do chose to venture further into the Gardens of hell🙏
@@LunarEquinox the visual novel? Lmao just kidding. Deen stay night was my first fate anything back when it first premiered in japan. it has plenty of adaption issues but I still think it can be plenty enjoyable as an anime (nostalgia speaking?) Try and go into it with an open mind
6:50 Isn't everyone in Fate a murderer? I mean, you need to kill to win a war so... Why would he be the one to judge while Rin, Ranni, Leonardo and pretty much everyone else did the same and didn't felt remorse for doing it?
Conclusion: Ignore this Trainwreck and instead, You have 3 options: - Play Fate EXTRA - Watch a Fate EXTRA Gameplay if you don't want to play the Game - Wait for the Fate EXTRA Remake that being in Development rn The only bad thing is that EXTRA CCC isn't Translated yet
I im personally: a) like Fate b) like Shaft studio style c) like "wtf going on" show like Texhnolyze, Casshern Sins, Garden of sinners etc so, I like this show really much, even without additional context from other (not anime) formats))
This show took me months to go through the first episodes ,but I admit that from the 5th floor onwards it started getting better and I quite liked it .
Let's see which Fate anime that you haven't watch yet -Fate Prototype OVA -Fate Grand Carnival -Fate Grand Order Moonlight Lostroom -Learn with manga FGO! -Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA ILLYA: Licht - The Nameless Girl
as a person who watched the fate extra series, how dare you compere Hakuno to Sieg! I get, in the anime he's depicted very porly, but in the games did pretty badass-heroic-perveted shit. So, some respect with this eroge protagonist, damn it!
I remember watching this with some prior type Moon knowledge I really liked it I can understand most if not everything that was going on so then later on I decided to play fate extra The unbrel star
I guess now all that's left is Fate Stay Night, and Fate Prototype which will make even less sense than Fate Extra. Edit: And for bonus points, jump straight into Nasuverse and watch the anime that doesn't exist. Lunar Legend Tsukihime.
