Horizon Hobby - Viper 90mm VS F-16 Falcon 80mm - Plus Crash & Repair Footage!!! 

We're so glad you're learning and engaging in this challenging and super-rewarding, BEST RC EXPERIENCE you can have, right along with us ;) Keep with us, and you'll be learning from my crashes for years to come - LOL ;)

AWESOME comment, and thanks ;) I'll make sure she sees this one!

Thank you Scott! YES, I am currently involved with PPG, and hope to progress in this, as well as moving up to ultralights, and hopefully, with some more time, a lot of hard work, and some luck too ;) We will hopefully be building a 60X80X20 storage building and hangar for our full scale planes, and a full scale runway on the other side of the treeline behind our house. This will be an off road strip, about 1000-1200 feet. Here's our planned progression of large capital projects on the way to the plan above, God willing, if you're curious. 1) Plan & Dig (or start digging) Pond - THIS YEAR, going through permitting and engineering now, fyi 2) Build 60'X80' building pad, and road approach - Next year (2024) 3) Build 60'X80'X20' building and hangar - also next year (2024) 4) Build runway - dirt-work - The NEXT year (2025) 5) Build - Pave in Concrete OR Asphalt a Heli Pad and road from the end of the runway (current driveway turn around) over new dam, and then through the middle of the runway, continuing to the 60'X80' building, then continuing out the middle or far approach of our other property. This part might be broken up into a few years, depending on the immediacy of need of the path. This will probably start in 2024/2025 and then finish in the following few years. While all this is happening, I will be progressing in my PPG skills, doing it in a way that will give me as good a chance at keeping safe, and not getting injured or killed while practicing. This is a harder than expected step, and will help me to keep from getting too complacent. I'd like to also start working toward my PPL, up to and including instrument and gear ratings, with a possibility of helicopter rating too. Some of this will unfold as our life changes over the next few years, but I'm trying like crazy to keep this timeline, but there are a few items that will come up and cause some delays, if life keeps being life ;) I know about a few, that will happen whenever they happen, but Megan and I are trying to keep those from causing too much delay - this involves buying another piece of property (which is happening pretty much any time, if there's not a problem uncovered on updating abstract / closing) - this property will hopefully yield opportunity to build her folks a new house, and when they sell off their current land (being squeezed by town...they've been there for 40 years, and will hopefully make a pretty good windfall when it sells)...then we'll either rent that home to them, or sell it to them. Either way, this will lead to a possibly delay in the later projects, but Megan and I are going to be obligated to help her folks, and that's what we plan to do. Anyway, we'll also do a few hundred to maybe a thousand videos in that timeline too, and hope you'll find some interest in following along. I'm a planner; difference with me and others I've met - I'm blessed/cursed with a drive to see projects like this through fruition. It's a heavy weight I carry around my neck, but love the pursuit at the same time! Only issue we've faced of late, is helping my wonderful camera crew, wife, and best friend - Megan - to understand how to live this way. She would rather slow down, relax, enjoy what we've worked for. I will be learning to strike a balance between what she loves and what I love, so that we can keep enjoying our generally happy marriage ;) Well, that's all for now. Hope this makes sense, and helps you to understand what's REALLY going on "behind the scenes". It's more than most realize, but that's not their job, but I still think it'll make for a cool drama in the background of this otherwise simple channel.

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Awesome! Thanks, and glad you found some value in it!

Agree

I use the agfrc servos in alot of my cars they are really good for the money.

100% We like to share what REALLY happens, but also how to deal with it. My wife and wonderful "camera crew" usually gives me the stank eye for doing the post-crash content, but I feel it's my duty to you all watching. Anyone can crash them, but not everyone can fix them...so I think it's a huge help to people learning everyday, like myself ;)

I just got the Viper 90 last week and maidened this weekend. Awesome! No trims needed. She flew perfect! And she's a definite speed demon.

Damn dude that is outstanding!!! Is it easy on the thumbs? It looks so smooth.

It's a super smooth jet!

Awesome! Thanks, and good luck! Glad you're here with us!!!

At least you have a jet!

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks!

Can't get more realistic than that!

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Really appreciated the grass landing save the plane ✈️ tutorial! Always great stuff you guys!

Awesome! Glad you're getting the skills stacked to do these repairs. It's not "hard" but more, just a lot of guess and check when you're new at it, and we've got so many videos of crashes, that you could learn a lifetime of repairs just from my screw ups ;)

She does great!

Wholly smokes that had to be a heart attack during the moment. Wow!

Also, why couldn't you have had this happen last year?? I had to figure all this out by myself haha

I just was super annoyed, since I wanted to share how AMAZING this plane is, and IT IS, then the least important servo caused a crash - LOL!!! What are the chances!?!??!

LOL - so you could follow along - LOL ;)

I think at my club they would like you to yell it regardless haha- rather than elaborating at length...

Yeah, as you saw it, I had already filled a few pretty big imperfections ;) Thanks for the tip about the LE. Good idea Bill!

You cannot take your eyes off it for a split second. You're right.

Yeah, that might help if the motor was overrunning, or if the end stops were broken inside the servo. That being said, I've seen several ways of failure on these servos, and all of them are super annoying, and very frustrating. Love both of these planes!

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it - hate when gear don't come out, but what you gonna do???? Glad it wasn't worse!

Awesome! Thanks for the kind remarks & thank you for your service!

I think you're right, but I want to see one of these F-16's in FIBERGLASS in a similar size class...it would be a BRICK ;)

Flair means pulling the nose up and keep flying straight, as opposed to just flying UP. It's flying in a high alpha, or nose-up attitude. This uses the body of the plane to slow down the plane by adding a lot of drag, and also keeping controls working. Many aircraft flair on landing. You'll also see the space shuttle flair on landings to burn off inertia. Hope this helps!

Thanks Jono!!! If there weren't a crash, where would be the fun in that - LOL ;)

LOL - "Warning Plague" - AMAZING!!!! Thanks Hands ;) But seriously....GREAT IDEA!!! Our rode is through only via gravel, and the only reason we really get traffic, is on their way to their final resting place...cemetery, or our neighbors screwing around...BUT there just so happens to be two bridges out and so traffic is all screwed up right now ;)

I can't believe they even have reverse thrust now. But it is the coolest thing I think that is on the jets now. Maybe they'll start firing rockets and blanks next.

@@TheFrenchPug can you imagine if they had laser tag 🏷 for rc planes ✈️? Like laser tag fpv no real shots fired for safety but you could get tone lock 🔒 like in top gun Maverick?

@@marcoreviews That would be so difficult but yes! Hahaha.

@@TheFrenchPug I know right? The other day I was trying to film my daughter flying her rc plane ✈️. I was following her with a micro fpv and could barely keep her micro plane ✈️ in shot. Trying to use a targeting 🎯 system would be close to impossible. Easier if she was flying a large aeroscout but still very very hard.

@@marcoreviews Great point and comparison. It would actually need lock on software and a radar system with HUD goggles. Lol

Thrust revers while flying is WONKY as heck. I've only done it just before crashing a few times ;)

Thanks ;) I hate when I say the wrong thing at a high stress moment, but yep - she was NOT dead stick. I just wish I could have belly landed her better than I did. Oh well, lessons learned ;)

This was JUST before my time, so no, sorry!

There's a bunch of them out there, but since I don't do that I really don't have a great answer for you, sorry Javiere!

Yes, but only ONE aileron will be controlled by AS3X or SAFE....but this is USUALLY enough to keep the plane righted.

Inverted loop, hard positive g s during gear extensions

yes, and thanks! when stuff breaks mid flight - it's the AFTERMATH that pisses me off, not the crash ;( BUTTTT I still LOVE this F-16 80mm!!!!

@@BrianPhillipsRC You restored it to its previous glory. All looks well, and battle tested!

Maybe ;)

No, it's got less channels, but if you don't need them, it is otherwise JUST as good ;)

Hey Brian , i think you should cut 2 or 3 trees that line up with your runway. You crash too much i been watching your videos and there great informative and the videography is tops. Anyways you would be able the fly much lower on landing and with your great skills would be successful landings. Cheers!

Thanks! It's probably about 100-110mph, or so, but feels REALLY fast ;)

I'd like too, but not yet. I assume they're going to be a new wheel set, made of aluminum, but I haven't seen pictures.

@@BrianPhillipsRC cool, I’m finding it hard to get any information about them, I see only two shops in the planet selling them and they’re in the USA, I wonder are they softer or don’t spring apart ect Best regards Rich

Ventral Fins will tear out pretty clean, but still a lot of stuff on the belly - they're never quite a smooth as you want them to be for this type of situation ;)

LOL - glad you caught that ;)

If you can fly a plane you can fly a jet just take it easy with safe until you are comfortable flying it.

Thanks Pat!!!

I don't know of any plans, but if I did, I wouldn't be allowed to share them ;) I'd love to see one, but I think it's too easy to replicate in a DRONE style (Prop in wings), so I have to assume it'd be some hokey looking thing like that, and not the true to form dual EDF setup or pivoting EDF's - that's what I would want.

brian, thanks for sharing the vid of your air -craft storage on 7-31-2022 .also did you get the chance to check out the harrier jet? that is a wonderful jet that should not have been retired from the usaf. just type in the search box at you tube page harrier.

It happens more often than you think! ;)

I understand your concerns, but don't forget I have crashed this plane a number of times ;) She is robust and amazing. It's one of, if not, my favorite plane!!! Troubleshooting is a tough part of the hobby, and something that everyone will have to do at one point or another, so I really hate having to share this, but want to teach, and Horizon Hobby is one of our best companies we work with, in regard to support after the sale. They have been good to me WAY before we were working with them. There has never been a time, and I've had a lot of "times" - LOL - where they said "no" to making a complaint right. Either way, glad you're with us Shaun, and happy flying!!!

The Viper 90 is easier to land in my opinion because it can handle the wing load.the viper 70 has a tendency to wing stall if you come in to slow and the gear is no comparison to the Viper 90. Bigger flys better!!

"Better"??? - Viper 90 is BETTER, but F-16 80 is what I would buy - hands down.

@@BrianPhillipsRC Same, Just the looks

Hey mate.. I’m in Brisbane.. I have the 70mm viper and the 80mm f-16... they land differently... f-16 takes full concentration and more throttle than the viper that with the right glide speed you can flair easier.

@@Nothinglefttosay We’re do you fly TMAC?

It was a bummer, but she lives to look amazing again for another flight - I love this F-16 too much ;)

LOL - oh boy - that would be good!

I agree that would have been nice. We'll look into an easy way, but we DO have some GPS modules...I just don't know if that'll be super easy, or a huge PIA ;)

@@BrianPhillipsRC It would def be fun, saw rc saylors do it a couple times. Would love to see you guys in a video eventually! Thanks for all the great content and be safe!

LOL - I don't have abs, I have AB. LOL