HDR Fix for Horizon Forbidden West www.nexusmods.... FSR 3 FG works absolutely perfect in some games like Remnant 2. Download it here www.nexusmods....
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it! I was using LukeFZ's mod since I have a GTX card, but I also noticed that 100 fps with FH on still looks like base 60 fps I'm getting without FG, even though Afterburner shows 100 fps on average. Maybe both Nukem and Luke can add some fixes to their mods or the game devs themselves need patch the game.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 when u turn on dlss fg same for me it says i have 100+ fps but its feel like 50 but in older version of mod just turn off dlss fg and set upscaling on fsr 2.2 and then its actually fsr 3 but then your hud ingame will flickering
@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx9xx9 I can confirm on a GTX cards using DLSS creates terrible HUD/UI Flickering. and No solution so far. LukeFZ has updated the mod yesterday but it is behind patreon pay wall , so can't confirm if it fixes that. but it requires regedit and many other files installation.
@@WitcherKING I just tried the newest mod version (Preview 4) and the issue still persists. But now when I turn FG off in-game, FG doesn't seem to work at all on both DLSS and FSR.
It's memory leak. Nothing to do with NVIDIA app (I had this problem until v1.43 and I have NVIDIA Experience yet). Also. Was facing terrible performance with DLSS3, but in the current version at least, It seems that FG works normally when Fullscreen, but terrible when Wondowed Fullscreen.
Im playing on a 3080 too. Frame gen mod works fine in 1440p because not exceed 10gb vram. Check your vram usage maybe on high settings, shadows mid, texture high.
Hola hermano! Hoy le han metido un fix para el HDR en steam. La verdad el juego se ve muy bien ahora y va muy fino con y sin FG con mi setup. Un abrazo!
Any updates yet? How does this FG work after the updates now? Well, there is a possible fix for the mouse smoothing that's being said to improve the frame pacing and FG smoothness. Here's the fix but I don't know if it really fixes this weird smoothness problem with NVIDIA Reflex. Possible fix step by step: 1) Go to regedit,run it as admin 2) Find \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Guerrilla Games\Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition\Input 3) Scroll down to find 'EnableMouseSmoothing' and change the Value from 1 to 0. 4) Restart the PC Some users also mentioned that latest RTSS version fixed the issue, I dunno 🤔
Noticed that too when I launched the game for the first time, havent played much since then though. There is new version of fsr-fg mod that promises fixes for forbidden west, gonna test that.
I tested it. It seems like the DLSS with FG is broken in this game though. If you are fancy some fluidity and can bear the input lag, you can enable that with the DLAA. It does work but still I won't recommend it. I would recommend the DLSS especially the 3.6 since it looks great in this game. 🙂
Now I Understand The Main Culprit Is The Vram. If Your Vram Maxed Out And Then You Try To Play With DLSS FG On It Will Be Not Smooth At All Because FG Needs Some Amount Of Vram To Generate Frames. But If You Use Fsr 3 FG It Feels Smoother Than The DLSS FG Because Fsr 3 Works On A Software Level. But DLSS FG Works On Hardware Level In 40 Series GPU's Due To Some Cores Idk What To Say Them.
probably you wouldn't notice because you have a smooth base fps already, and this is why people doubt its working for them , and here is why , I've been messing with the mod for 4 hours now and here it is the fsr 3 mod has not been fully compatible with this game yet, there is two versions: 1- the mod with the old dll files (the one used on this video) which actually works only if you disable anti aliasing and all upscaling methods (SMAA is the worst one but even DLAA and TAA not working, a bit smoother compared to SMAA but not smooth properly as AA off ), does not have UI ghosting, needs to be enabled in the game menu, 2 - the new mod with the FSR2FSR3.asi or Uniscaler.asi files, works almost perfect (exept it has UI ghosting ), with various upscalers and anti aliasing , but the wierd thing is you need to let fg option off in the game menu for it to work properly, it has UI ghosting, if you enable fg in the menu it will stop working even if its still showing you the boosted fps + you may see additional visual bugs .... so i think it's ''a pick your poisen matter'' : -play with FG actualy working with no upscale no AA without UI ghosting. (old DLL mod 0.90) -play with FG actualy working with UI ghosting. ( new Uniscaler mod let FG Off in the game menu) note : i have a base frames of 48 avg fps with my rtx 3060 max-DLAA with fg actualy working i got 75 avg fps so i easly notice the difference in smoothness . Edit : game has new minor update has dlss fg involved,maybe some thing new there LukeFZ made a new mod fix addresses that issue just now and maybe that will fix it, didn't test it yet.
Ariel what is your recommended value for contrast setting when watching movies. I know that you can go max 97 but what is your recommended value and why
Do you think Nintendo's next console will support even 90fps? You'd think if they back peddled to visually less demanding games from lets say the Gamecube era and before it, they could hit 90fps. Or possibly 120fps, for 8-16 bit retro & fax/new retro titles that are currently being released today. If in fact the Switch 2 has the power of a PS4+. BTW, doesn't 90fps reduce motion blur by 25%, while delivering 450p(In between 120's 600p & 60's 300p) motion clarity and around 7.5ms of input lag? And I'm really looking forward to the RTX5090 arriving towards the end of the year. Pair that with a 65" - 77" S90D QD-OLED and you should be able to finally lock in native 4K+144fps, unless there's an obvious 60fps frame rate cap.
90fps/Hz with flickering would be fantastic, but Nintendo might just use the power for more ambitious 30fps games. That's what all consoles do, use all the power for minimum performance
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 30fps should be a thing of the past by the time PS5 Pro Enhanced comes out. I think we'll be seeing options for Dynamic 4K + 30fps or 1080p+60fps on Switch 2. As far as the 55" - 65" QD S90D goes, i really hope Samsung found a way to lower the latency for it's game mode's BFI and if there will be a good amount of brightness left in SDR with it's supposed 8ms persistence. You could always fall back to game mode's motion interpolation to cut back 50% of the motion blur when gaming at 60fps, but not everything looks suitable at 120fps/or a fake 120, especially anime fighters like Dragon Ball Fighterz & Guilty Gear. :P
You should lower your resolution to 1080 or 1440p, you'll get more than playable frames that way & very smooth without Frame Gen ofc , and DLSS set to Quality, but if u still want that Overkill Ultra settings you'll have to upgrage GPU & cpu if needed depending on the card combo.
Ariel I figured out what is the reason behind 4000 nits being more dark. This because of the compression of the highlights, thats why the mid-tones look darker when set to 4000 nits instead of 1000. And i think its better for dtm? Due to dtm over brightening shadow detail. But i guess you know better.
I was having issues with really irregular frame times, I'd set a few things like i normally would in Nvidia Control Panel for HZD Forbidden West profile, was driving me nuts. I deleted that profile and it fixed all my problems. I should of just olayed the game without tinkering first and got flawless performance as I expected to. Getting about 85fps average at 4k DLAA max settings without frame gen. RTX4090 5600x
They fix it already so you can just use the peak brightness slider and set it to your TV or Monitor Max for HGIG or depending on the tone mapping curve
Hi Ariel, I hope you are doing great man. Ariel could you please write all the things you know for PS5 and tips too. I mean like for example to do something in a particular situation you could do this… when system level calibration games are dim do this… and for native hdr games if you want to use dtm off cinema home do this… and some tips that you know. This would be great and it would be better to write everything in one comment then rather replying to every of my comments and I still get confused. Thank you . The problem with system level calibration games being dim is a problem cause many system level calibration games like ratchet and clank, alan wake, ghost of tsushima, god of war, spider man , miles morales and so on. Thank you Ariel, for all your helping I am just like you before on pc is confused sometimes and I am every day trying to find a solution for each problem of PS5, so it really frustrates me. Currently I am playing with sharpness 50 on PS5 because console almost never plays native 4k and 60 fps and most of the games are upscaled so sharpness 50 makes games look like on PC ?? I don’t know man but I am trying to get the best quality from my tv. Thank you 🙂👍🏻
Hey Ariel! I was trying to use lilium's and autohdr (From Endless Flowering) with Forbidden west. I tried it for a few days with no issues, but now when reinstalling the game, it just crashes whenever AutoHDR addon is installed on the folder. Any idea on what could be causing this conflict? I know it worked before 🤔
Do you get screen tearing when playing with BFI on? I've tried it after seeing your other videos on it, but even locking the fps to the same as the refresh rate of my monitor, I get constant tearing. V-sync fixes it, but V-sync doesn't work with NVidia frame generation so I can't use it in some games
I’m pretty sure that the global V-sync setting works regardless of DLSS3 which you should have on in the control panel. The thing is though that if you hit your maximum refresh rate V-sync kicks in and adds input latency and G-sync will revert to V-sync behavior. You’re supposed to use G-sync and V-Sync with ultra low latency mode or reflex which will cap the refresh rate automatically under your maximum refresh rate or manually cap your framerate. I don’t know much about BFI though and I’m guessing that you need 120 Hz for it?
@@Simon_Denmark For BFI, you'd need to have your framerate locked at the same refresh rate as your screen. I have the LG C1, so I have the options of 120,100,60hz for example
@@dragonicprime1736 Ah ok. But like I said, I would test global V-sync from control panel. But is there even games that have DLSS3 without reflex? Reflex will cap your framerate automatically under maximum framerate and you won’t be getting BFI. I wonder if it would be more benficial to do 100 Hz BFI (in games that you can get it without frame generation) so you don’t get input latency.
@@dragonicprime1736 I don’t know which 3rd party frame rate limiters work with DLSS3 so you could cap to 100 FPS. I know that RTSS added reflex in 7.3.5 because most frame rate limiters won’t work with it. I guess max frame rate through control panel but it has the biggest latency.
Try fps cap +gsync + vsync, befgore that i noticed the frametimes were spiking from 8ms to 24 all of a sudden, after doing this it got up on avg but was conistent and game felt much more smooth
This game is very heavy on a GPU. I am very surprised. I am running the ICC profile you recommended. No auto HDR, and no in game HDR. 4090 | 13900K | 32g ram 7000. mem clock 1701; core clock 2960. Native 4K with DLAA; Max setting with no upscale, no FG, I am like 100-105 FPS in game, and like 85 FPS cut scenes.
in my experience FG is bad in motion clarity in each game I tried such as, Dragon's dogma 2 (mod), Cyberpunk 2077, Diablo 4 You are actually right in saying that when you turn off FG the motion clarity seems better. I hope you can look into it more brother
you are definitely right bro. i searched a lot of fsr 3 mod and i dont have any solutions at all . Fps is higher but when u move mouse or espicially when u aim with bow fsr 3 mod skipping frames. Always so stuttery. i tried GSYNC or VSYNC and lowering the quality settings. Maybe i have just have a solution and its no anti alising (not even smaa) all turned off. it is even fps's are same like before wayyyy more smother but definitely looks like shit (also there is only one optimized setting and it is medium shadow. it is nearly look same but a little bit more fps)
0:20 lol... everyone including your neigbhour. I'm planning to do that with my high end gaming PC and showing off Cyberpunk in raytracing overdrivemode on my phillips OLED 808 42 inch ambilight tv. But yes i played horizon forbidden west on PS5 (should have waited for pc version) and it looks even great on console. On a PC with correct HDR it must be breathtaking. Horizon forbidden west is probably the best looking or at least most advanced open world console game right now.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I think it can still look good once you calibrate it (I'm on LG C3 OLED 42in). It's almost like the artstyle changes too. I personally find it enjoyable even if not perfect. Go in the bunkers and all the purple holo stuff looks like actual neon lights. I think the main problem is peak brightness clipping.
I tried Horison forbidden west now, HDR looks great with 1200 max luminance and 120 paper white. I think the sky looks way too white when you have more on paper white. And btw I have a LG CX Oled@@plasmatvforgaming9648
Not sure what is going wrong in your game. CAP FPS in nvidea control panel instead of rivatuner if you did not already do that, i heard thats it better. And its almost as if you do get the extra frames but for some reason the VRR is turned off in this game? LIke a bug perhaps? Because if you have variable FPS above 100 fps but VRR is not working and the in game v-sync is on then it will be stuttery.
Can you turn off HDR, and use the SDR fix? Turn scaling off, optimize the video settings some more and use vsync 60fps and then use BFI? Or, use 1080p and scale the image to make sure you can lock in performance?
How to invert colors in windows desktop to black scheme to prevent buring in plasma and oled like in your pc? Where is that option ? update: is this alt+ shift+ prtscreen keys>?
I have bought two panasonic viera plasmas. Motion clarity is at level 240hz or little bellow. 120hz is perfect. But i think screen glass need to be clean from inside side. Maybe you know is is possible to clean plasma front glass from inside?
Usually when FG doesn't feel smooth I make sure that I have forced V-sync on in Nvidia Control Panel. Not sure if that works with FSR 3 though. Also maybe it might be something related with the Nvidia reflex low latency option?
The Thing Is Even After Having A 40 Series GPU ( Rtx 4050 ). The DLSSFG Is Not Working Properly In This Game. The Game Was Not Smooth At All. So I Have To Download FSR 3 MOD And Its Working Smoothly. But The HUD Is Still Flickering 🤷
Try my solution I'm on the LG OLED C3 I also had the same problem My graphics card is ASUS TUF OC RTX 3080TI In the game settings, change the resolution to 2560 x 1440 Only with DLAA In NVCP in the MENU of adjuast desktop size and position. Select Scan by GPU . and full screen. All settings in the game on maximum only without the radial blur motion blur 0 chromatic aberration The frame rate after that range from 90 frames to 118. Lock the refresh rate in the game options to 100 Hz The game is smooth as butter And in fact this is the resolution with the DLSS in quality mode anyway From 4K after 66 percent of the original state 2560 x 1440 DLAA
para este mod con este juego, FG funciona bien sin anti-aliasing o con Xess. Con dlss y fsr vá pésimo 140fps se sienten como 40fps. Para que no se me repitan los fotogramas, como dices, y que el juego se vea fluido, yo lo juego con el mod y sin anti-aliasing, tengo un monitor 1440p de 27" y luce bien sin anti-aliasing, tengo una 3070, tampoco veo diferencia entre dlss off, calidad o performance, mi gpu siempre está entre 85 y 90%
lukefz fsr 3 frame gen mod work ok with TAA as based upscaler ... frame gen mod with DLSS and FSR not feel smooth as you mentioned in video but with TAA game feels responsive and motion fluidity is better.
Need an advice. I have two choices to make. 1 is to buy the s90c that i was hearing good stuff about it.(never tried samsung tv) 2 is to buy Lg g3 or the s95c but it’s not available in my country until probably 4/5 months. I was thinking of ordering the s90c coz I heard the tv can give good brightness and colours and that’s what i like the most. Brightness and good colours are the most important thing to me in a tv There is to much fucking games i want to play and I can’t play it with my potato tv after i lost my c1
If you're in a dark room, definitely the S90C, that's the TV I would get over S95C (blackout issues). Also, Samsung will work great for consoles with Game Motion Plus (low latency motion interpolation(
S90c for sure I got one yesterday just so I have a really good 4K experience and I got the Alienware 27 inch for shooters etc the S90C is beautiful with its brightness and punchy colours and deep blacks
