HORUS VS RUSS! FIGHT & AFTERMATH 

Russ reminds me of Theoden here: „Lord, we can not defeat the armies of Mordor“ - „No we can not! But we will meet them in battle NONETHELESS!“

Haha those subtitles... "Horace Looper Cow"

Russ stabs Horus with the spear Horus: you.... Russ: what? Horus: you should have gone for the head!

Horus lost to Russ because he was too arrogant, gloating and believing there was no way Russ could even hurt him. Russ was also given a weapon made specifically to kill Horus imbued with some of the emperors own power. Also remember that about a third of his legion died to ensure he would survive. Sanguinius would be fighting a horus not only imbued with the pantheons power but now humbled by almost being killed by russ, he would not let an opening like that happen again. Sanguinius would be fighting Horus 1 on 1, with no legion at his back, after spending who knows how long holding off the traitor legions at the eternity gate. Sanguinius also arguably has even more of a personal attachment to Horus than Russ, so if anything I think it adds to his sacrifice, he took on the most powerful thing next to the emperor, alone, with no bullshit instakill stick

If only Russ had similar feelings for Magnus as he once had for Horus

I’ll say the scope of 40K is so vast that multiple facets of a tale can emerge over time to completely change what we know. This means everything is canon until it’s not. Face it, it’s been like this for 3 decades. But in a way, it’s also how things are with the actual Imperium itself!

“You can kill me “, said Russ defiantly , " But You Will Never Win.." -> Words for the Gods Of Chaos 🤔🤔

Sanguinius’s death is still going to be special. It’s going to come down to him seeing that if he does not die the emperor will be holding back to much and will be overwhelmed by Horus. His death is the Key to Imperial Victory.

the sacrifice of the wolves was way more heroic than even the writer could portray, they threw themselves at him over and over knowing it meant death, in a blood fueled frenzy, i was completely caught off guard, almost in tears, they wouldnt be stopped, couldn't be stopped.

I think it showed just how powerful Russ was, for all of his boasting he could back up what he said. I do think Russ was right in thinking that Sanguinius would be too much for him though. Russ had the emperors spear and Horus took him lightly but the fact he could’ve killed Horus at this point is impressive still. I’m loving how these black Library books have made Leman a much more interesting character. wolfsbane was incredible

Everybody saying this doesnt count as a victory for Russ because of Horus was gloating seems to have the wrong idea about combat and strategy. You play to your enemies weaknesses not strengths, in this battle it would be pride. It's like saying you cant use feints or any other type of mental tactic because its "underhanded"

To think that nearly 10,000 years later that same spear would hurt another traitor primarch

I just love how passionately you tell us these stories

This right here, this shows how much Leman and Horus loved and respected one another. But, Though Russ had tried… Horus that existed was gone. Seriously, what story writing and emotion.

This counts as a solid W for Russ. He won that battle by outsmarting a superior opponent. This has to make Russ the most lethal of all the Primarchs. I do think they need to re-do the lore around Sanguinius. Strangled to death? How is that even possible? Wouldn't his neck just heal? Only a beheading would make sense.

I have this strange feeling that when the encounter between Sanguinius and Horus happens, Sanguinius will have the upper hand for most of the engagement, until he too is shown the "uncorrupted" face of Horus and relents, enabeling Horus to mortally wound him when he is unbalanced - if Sanguinius then, in that moment, carve the legendary hole in Horus' armor, his sacrifice will remain as great as it has always been - this, at least, is what I am hoping :)

True strength is not having the power to do great harm, it is possessing that power and choosing love anyway. Russ made me a proud son on that day. I would fight for the Great Wolf on any field he deems fit. No threat is too large, no feat too hard. For the mighty Leman Russ we charge!

I couldn't repeat what I had done to Magnus and (REDACTED)... I took pity on Angron, because he was mad... Horus though... He was my brother, longer than any others...

"I hear you, and I DEFY you!" ... damn, gives me chills.

I've never felt so pumped cleaning my kitchen. Love your chanel

Sanguinius had visions of what would happen if he killed horus. He saw himself hurl his spear through horus and kill horus. He also saw what the repercussions would be and knew he had to die. If russ had not stopped to try and save his brother when he struck him with his spear then he would have won, horus even said as much.

For Russ, and the Allfather. Russ may be a barbarian, but I think this shows that no matter how bruttish he may seem, he still has emotion.

Let’s be honest, without chaos interference, Russ is the strongest Primarch for direct combat.

Yeah I got the impression Russ only won because of Horus' gloating etc, I never for a moment thought This was any type of victory for Russ. Also we know that sanguinius was already weakened from his fight with the Bloodthirster and the fighting during the siege of Terra, he wasn't at full strength when he confront Horus. I personally don't think even a full strength Sanguinius could beat a Chaos powered Horus but the fight would have been a bit closer.

Good Work as always, Keep them coming, Emperor Bless you 😎 !!!.-P.S.I Wish you More Suscribers ,you Deserve IT !!!.

I really enjoy to listen yours video/ way to explain them. This one is my favorite, keep going mate and wish to support you. Cheers

I really hope that it's revealed that Sanguinius beat Horus, but in doing so he succumbed to the black rage and attacked the Emperor. The emperor destroying Horus' soul was a "no witnesses" situation.

Sanguinius killed Horus and fell to the first black rage before mortally wounding the emperor. The emperor hesitated not for Horus, his bastard traitor son, but for his Angel.

Hey! that was a very banged up Sanguinius...

Russ infused with Khorne would be insane! Angron would be his little pup

Next wolf throwing the spear is Ragnar Blackmain? Awesome episode bro !

Well, I burnt my dinner...which is what happens when you start watching Wolflord Rho video and say 'Just 10 minutes'... ;)

Russ beat Horus beceause he outsmarted the Warmaster. No many beings in the WHOLE of 40k lore can say that. He took his arrogance and used it against him. He had the Spear which let him wound Horus but it did nothing to Russ' skill as a warrior. That was all Russ. The only failing of Russ is he went soft in the head. Russ could of killed a Choas Ascending Horus. Take the Spear away and Horus' power from the Chaos Gods and Russ would kill Horus. Russ was always the better skilled warrior.

1.1k this morning, 1.3k now - keep going! :D

Wolves hunt as a pack, Horus. Angron never learned this lesson. Apparently, neither did you.

Love is the death of duty.

It could be that Sanguinius knew that if he defeated Horus, he would have possibly returned, so it had to be The Emperor to unmake him. And during the fight that he was prolonging waiting for The Emperor, he just run out of stamina, as we know, we wasn't in the best shape. That's why in my humble Sanguinius lost to Horus.

Love the vids. I cant watch this one yet. Currently reading wolfsbane. Which is a bummer because I'm addicted to this series

Now tell us about how did Horus reacted when he first met Robute Gulliman

Awesome listen! I got the audible version and the battle betrween the wolves and the sons as well as the primarchs was riveting! Tell me; what is the next book in the series? I want to see what happens not only to the wolves, but cawl as well.

I have finally found a hardcopy of this book!! soon I shall enjoy full story!!

15:20 - When the Space Wolf marines are rushing Horus (and his maul), I just picture the first battle scene from LOTR: Return of the King, when Sauron's just knocking enemy troops out of the park with each swing!! >XD Did the Space-Puppies not have access to a teleporter; even if it just took Russ to a different part of the V.Spirit? I presume none of them were able, or had the foresight, to pick up the Emperor's spear and try, however futilely, to further wound Horus? I mean if you're set to face Horus and sacrifice yourself anyway, you could go for strikes you wouldn't normally attempt as they would leave you open? Where's a Cyclonic Torpedo when you need one. Detonate one by hand and utterly obliterate both ships, both legions, both Primarchs and rid the worst threat from the Imperium!?! Maybe Uncle "Dark Horse" Malcador should have gone with Russ!?

Do a video on the Sanguinor going in Sanguinius’ place in Ruinstorm!!! Would love to hear your thoughts on it.

It's an estimation on Lemans side and it says as much about his character as it does his ability. If anything it says a lot about what sanguinius goes through on the vengeful spirit which by that point is not the ship we saw in the beginning of the heresy novels, and neither are the personnel on it. It wouldn't surprise me if much of it is internal as well as he is essentially lucifer recast. Remember that he drove the first wedge between the emperor and horus and pointed him towards lorgar and alpharius all during the course of a single conversation.

Classic rho! My fav

Russ is bro for life . He tried to convince Horus to come back home. He is not a complete executioner.

Please do Sanguinius v Luprecal, and follow up with the Emperor fighting his traitorous son.

This is what happens when you fight a raid boss way to underleved but with a OP object that you were given by a higher level player

I understand how youre feeling. But, I must disagree. In battle, EVERYTHING is accounted in an outcome. Emotions included. As such, Russ lost. In real historical fights, certain skilled individuals intentionally provoked the emotions of more revered fighters and as a result, won the battle. Russ lost due to his emotions but emotions, often time, is a weapon as sharp as any sword to cut through armor.

He just wanted his pack leader back :(

I don't think this undermines Sanguinius, but just gives even more credit to Russ.

After reading Echoes of Eternity and Sanguinius killing Angron and the Greater Daemon too, your last comment about him earns even more credibility. I expect Sanguinius to die in Vengeful Spirit either because he is exhausted or because of psychic trauma. As presented in Echoes of Eternity he is the best fighter of the Primarchs ...

> rogue one > one of greatest scenes in cinema history W in T actual F

Hmm. About Russ beating Sanguinius. Yes he might be capable of that feat. But Russ easily defeating Sanguinius says nothing of Russ being able to or not. At the moment Horus kills Sanguinius he is so coked up on warpdust that he is almost equal in power to the Emperor because the Chaos gods need the Emperor to die and thus gave Horus the full power of their blessings. Also, like you stated Sanguinius had a busy day and was not at his best.

If I was Russ I would be like in the movie ''Gangs of New Yourk'' see this notch in your maul that is you. And swing home.

Great tale !

I need this book!

Wolf Lord, I don't think that statement is quite accurate. Leman stating he could beat Sanguinius. I thought he said he could NOT beat Sanguinius or Kurse. I don't have access to my audiobook/book right now, but could you confirm that and let us know? You're doing a stellar job. As much 30-40k lore that is out there, I find your Primarch perspectives, fresh and on the money. Keep doing what you're doing brother...

"This universe will burn as countless others have burned before it" What did Horus mean by this?

Love this video

imagine what the movie will be like... when it is made in like.. 100 years.

Was the spear akin to the kinbrak anathema that erubus stole from the interex??i

Ty

What is the song that you use for your background music??? @wolflordrho

Couldn't you argue that Horus beat Sanguinius because he, meaning Horus, is basicly pumped up on chaos steroids?

Russ poor executioner 3/10 would not recommend

I love the story, I hate the placement of it - it really ruins the pacing of other stories. A big point of Prospero was to tie up two Loyalist Legions during Horus' assault on the Emperor, made all the more pungent by Magnus determinedly giving in to the Wolves until the dying moments when he confronted Russ because his Thousand Sons refused to let the Wolves raze their libraries and faught back. Because of this Russ won quicker than expected and still might have made it to Terra in time had the Alpha Legion not attacked the battle weary Wolves and held up both the Wolves and the Dark Angels who stepped in to save them. Rather than seeing Russ as a bigger hero after this story I see him as more of an idiot. RUSS WAS ON TERRA. This book makes the timing that rather than getting to Terra too late to make a difference Russ was there, Russ made Terra after Prospero, decided he was of no real help then left on an ultimately and knowingly futile suicide/glory-hunting mission, then failed to get to Terra on time. It's also Russ' fault that a shipload of Dark Angels didn't make it on time.

Magnus did some things wrong. Emps did some things wrong. Horus did som things wrong. Leman did some things wrong. Almost every figure of power in the 40k universe fucked up multiple times, and their collective hubris got them all on their knees. Except Vulkan. Vulkan is biggest bestest hugboss in da system.

Well Russ created the opening he was already accepting his death but he fought out of the talons grip and stabbed him with the spear nearly every villain gives a little speech before their about to kill the good guy and Russ took advantage of that window he was given he still “won” the fight.

The book was incredible,i have the audiobook and your are right mate it was just unbelievable. And yea i think russ won and i also think that pre heresy horus wud hav fallen to the lord of winter and war!

I would LOVE IT if the Sanguinius theory is true. Where he, whilst fighting Horus, is getting his ass kicked, and then, boom, he goes into the black rage. He then, shits on Horus, shits on everyone around him. Then, the emperor walks in. The emperor just goes on the defensive, hoping against hope Sanguinius snaps out of it. He doesn't, and the emperor is forced to kill him. It explains why the emperor didn't want to attack him.

Prophecy from Horus: This is the weakness that shall cause our father to fail (not exact quote). The emperor is only fatally wounded because he holds back because of his love for his favourite son.

Nah Horus was bloated by the power of the 4 Chaos gods, so Sanguinius could never have beaten him, even with this own magic spear of Telesto. Also the big E was holding back remember.....

The spear of Russ, is a Metaphysical Blade, Valdor has one to. Valdor discovered that his spear is practically alive and when it cuts anything it says to him his enemies greatest weakness. Whereas Russ's spear cuts anything it reveals to the bearer the enemies greatest moment of happiness. So my question is since Valdor and Russ both have cut Horus what is Horus's greatest moment of happiness and greatest fear

It does seem like the angels have been over shadowed by the wolves. I don't like that, though the story this way isn't bad. Does it make more sense over all, that Sanguinius would be more likely to get that dire wound on Horus, because of the spear's power? I do not know.

Ouch?! Right?

Memory is a bit hazy buuuuut wasn't Horus full empowered by Chaos Undivided at its peak during the final confrontation on the Vengeful Spirit? As in that particular point when all the Chaos gods gave Horus everything they had in order to topple Terra and kill the Emperor, so to say Sanguinius has been undermined is pretty silly to the least. Either way great video and great narration.

Whereabouts can I buy the audiobooks?

Horus kicked the crap out of Leman Russ, it was only his hubris at his new powers and lack of knowledge regarding the Emperor’s spear that let Russ have any hope at winning. This was a lesson that taught Horus to be utterly ruthless. Regarding Sanguinius’ sacrifice, if anything this battle made it an even more difficult encounter, as Horus had already been caught of guard before. Besides, if Russ was to fight Sanguinius the emperor’s spear would not work against Him in the same way, and the Wolf would fall, as Sanguinius’ speed and aerial advantage would win him the day

In a way it does cheapen the death of Sanguinius for Russ to have beaten Horus in so much as Horus to that point was an unstoppable force. This exchange takes away from the threat of Horus as now it’s clear that all that it takes to kill Horus is a weapon of the emperor and skill. If Russ can do it so can Sanguinius. If Russ can do it, so could the Lion. If Russ can do it so could Dorn. If Dorn can do it so could Ferris. And yet Ferris dies, Sanguinius dies, Russ almost dies and the Lion would mostl likely die because the storyline demands it. In my opinion this is contrived writing and it’s why the Horus Heresy should’ve been left as a mystery or at the very least vague. By showing this fight between brothers and showing how even Chaos powers couldn’t stop a standard primarch (all be it an unbelievably skilled and powerful primarch) then how could the emperor lose? How could Sanguinius lose when you see how he fights and how fatigue doesn’t phase a primarch the same as it does a human? Horus is a lumbering giant who is more of a power fighter. He is clever and he isn’t exactly a wimp but as described he is easy prey to the strategic mind. The fight shouldn’t have happened at all in my opinion as it’s just a way to cheapen the threat that is Horus. And I say this as a huge fan of Russ and the space wolves. If Russ has even the smallest chance against a chaos powered Horus then there’s no way the emperor, even holding back, could possibly lose. And if these two had to fight it should’ve been so one sided that Russ never lands a single blow and Horus appears more bored of his brothers attempts due to his power. Placating the fans with fan service is the death of good storytelling every bit as much as “subverting expectations” is. Is wasting your money on an all you can eat buffet at the cost of a juicy stake and fine whiskey, if I may be metaphorical.

This is what makes me like Leman Russ and the space wolves the amount people who talk shit about them and hate them makes me like them more especially Bjorn.

The reason Russ' defeat of Horus doesn't equate to a him being able to defeat Sanguinius, is that Leman *didn't* defeat Horus. He managed to wound him, at the cost of his ability to continue fighting. It results in a win not because the blow that was struck was lethal, but because the blade with which Horus was struck held the Emperor's power.

He really didn't stand a chance at all . He was swatted like a fly. Only reason he had a chance to beat horus was because of the spear, not russ himself. In order to give sanguinius his due they simply have to let him hold his own against horus for a little while.

Russ had a special weapon for the fight that totally stunned Horus when it made contact. We know Sanguinius also landed blows on Horus, but he had a "normal" power sword.

Where can I find the audiobook

Russ was a darn fool to give quarter and let up when he had Horus at bay. Never give your enemy a chance to recover

So he lost the spear????

You missed the theory at the end that Sanguinius kills Horus, but is overcome by the black rage and turns on the Emperor. It's Sanguinius that fatally wounds the Emperor, not Horus, but for obvious reasons the Emperor tells everyone Sanguinius sacrificed himself.

Holy crap!!!

This is just Thanos and Thor but in 40k

The Sons of Hor-Russ

I never really liked Rus and the wolves until this book. I loved Magnus so obviously I didn’t like the wolves lol. But this book humanized Rus a lot more than I’m use to and that made me feel for him. He only needed to wound Horus. And just as the blade that wounded Horus on Daven poisoned him, this to will weaken him. Maybe not now but I do believe this hurt him more than he realizes. At least this is my hope.

What music is this?

I dont think this under values Sanguinius at all simply because Russ had more favorable conditions and a simpler win condition with the Emperor's Spear. He just had to wound Horus while Sanguinius had to 1v1 Horus with no such weapon. And Horus would also be a bit more careful against Sanguinius because the Angel is more dangerous AND Horus nearly died against Russ.

Might i ask you to reveal the music playing in the background?

War of the wolves

Never send a Barbarian to do a job meant for... The Knights of Bretonnia! Yeeeehaaaaww!

So is the Emperor's spear an anethme?

imagine horus as dio and russ jonathan

I can't help but think of Jon Cena's theme when someone does the backbreaker in 40k. People do it so fucking often.