How Big Is The Imperium of Man's Entire Army? | Warhammer 40k Lore 

The general rule I go with is "Games Workshop can't handle numbers... except profit margins."

Wait does that mean I can establish a country with my lordship and be called lord

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I think if there were 20 legions again each with 200,000 astartes and then only used space marines for the role they do best, shock troops. Then the numbers might make a bit more sense. Have marines attack and not protect, use shock assault tactics and not attrition or siege. Then give them pre-horus heresy numbers and it might start to actually work out

We NEED an Eldar Numbers video, since lately since the Great Rift it seems like they changed the Eldar Craftworld from Continent sized ships and populations to a few thousands. It makes no sense how much they have been nerfed fluff-wise as a power.

only hundreds of thousands? Are you insane? The great rift is open, and it is said worlds come in and out of the imperium too fast to know.

That’s what I love about the astra militarum

So, a slow fifteen minutes for the Imperium

Must have been a slow day.

That’s some scary perspective ngl. Now that’s some grim dark

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don't. that's derivative of like 8 videos already

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I mean what about their adoptive parents.

Also their fighters are 150 meters long.

And those are considered crude replications of their Dark Age of technology counterparts

Cruisers are capital ships, nothing basic about them! And the Ordinatus Armageddon was a Nova Cannon - the most powerful ships mounted weapon in the imperium, not scaled down.

Very simple answer: Forerunners from Halo. Their basic stuff makes dark age of technology look like sticks and stones.

Forerunners are kinda broken. So is the flood they would wreck in 40k.

Terra's population has been suuuper inconsistent in the lore, though quadrillion makes sense. The Carrion Throne called the population "quadrillions", Space Hulk: Deathwing called in "200 billion" and the old lore had it at "100 trillion". Leave it to 40k to have super inconsistent lore!

where is that mentioned? i thought the number was 100 trillion

Well you have that 500 trillion is pretty.much low-ball estimate, in addition, world is have.been known to either mass conscript, or in Terra case in war if the beast, surge their numbers by patriotic zeal. This doesn't even include crusader forces.

"protecting"

Bruh what? Thats such a dumb number even for 40K

Remove the size limit of scout companies.

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threw that shit in the trash, even he saw how much damage it did for the imperium in the long run

It's all drafts as the momment ,nothing released to the Imperium

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he did in some videos

O no not again

Yeah Ahriman has had some videos already

Agree 100%

Shut up

Its mental, I read Krieg recently, and whilst it isn't a bad book, the numbers make no sense. It talks about 2-3000 guardsmen laying siege to a hive city infested with orks. Current modern estimates are that to take a large village/small town, even if lightly defended would take 1000 soldiers due to how complex an environment it. Hive cities are meant to be colossal, spanning many miles both up and long. every time I read a number of guardsmen I added 2 0's to the end for my own headcannon lol.

I didnt mind numbers in 40k until I realized the current population on earth is 7 billion, suddenly guardsman regiments, space marine legions during the horus heresy and specially space marine chapters looked stupidly small, like how are 1000 space marines supposed to deal with a planet full of orks, or necrons or whatever?

@@PoorManatee6197 Surgical strikes on strategically critical targets to disrupt the enemy followed up with a prolonged purging period? Space Marines can operate for a very long period of time without rest and they are very good at killing things. I can see them whittling down a planet full of Orks eventually but Necrons are probably too tough for a purely SM force to deal with alone.

@@TheSonOfDumb we are still talking about 1000 marines vs 7 billion orks, each marine would have to kill 7 million orks with no loses, and im being nice by putting the whole chapter, it would usually be like 3 companies working togeter.

1000 space marines has millions supporting it. They also typically reinforce millions of deployed guardsmen. Likely doing strategic first strike to disorganize enemies or defeat their leadership. Not too big of a stretch to throw them at millions × chapter's 1k.

i think it s still way too low. I would ass 2 more zeroes

@@Till873 two zero is way too much a trench can only fit that many krieger

my issue would be the corpses. At some point, mountains are made out of them

@@yawarapuyurak3271 how exactly do you think corpse starch is made?

@@yawarapuyurak3271 Xianxia Novel battles be like ''mountains of corpses and rivers of blood'' plus hills of bones or something like that...

The codex states that regiments are generally drawn because of conflicts within the sector, and anyone who survives gets sent off to other wars as-needed

Custodians are akin to Primarchs, it takes significant knowledge, skill, and resources to make them, and a fuck ton of time. While it hasnt been stated, it would seem even the Emperor had trouble making them, and thats why there are only 10k by the time of the heresy. If Emps couldve shat out millions of them he would have. and now hes incapable of.making them, so the difficulty just went even higher now

they are based on the persian army of the undead. sorry mate but 10k is the max

The Custodes are not an army they are the body guard of 1 man. There is also a lore issue as it is stated each Custodes was "hand crafted by the emperor" but the emperor has been stuck on the throne so who has been making them for the last 10,000 years?

@@robdeskrd From what I've heard there's labs in the palace that can make them in very limited quantities, but in all likelihood, it's limited to maybe one every year per lab, so they're mostly busy cycling out retiring custodes.

@@yourairconditioner7474 Wouldn't it be rad to get the Custodes treatment minus loyalty conditioning in real life?

Which should have been a billion instead. But I guess moving a billion soldiers is not the same as keeping them entrenched in a hive city's bulwark.

not worth it, waste of time, and guilliman prolly cannot impose the radical rearmament to all the guardsmen

His grandpa survived the Drop Bear Site Massacre

Well there would not likely be that many Titans since very few are made anymore if any and most of them fell during the Horus Heresy.

@@MrFallenone don't know what to think exacly about your answer, bc gw screw with lore and proportion. But yeah, should be a small bot as you said

Those same people tried to say that the U.S. alone could beat a Doom hell invasion. Mad props to our services, but that's physically impossible. There are more demons in hell than there are bullets on earth. And It seems it's a similar case for the Imperium.

People are delusional. We're not exactly building stc's or iron men yet so I'm pretty sure we'd be fucked. Could we even attempt to stop an exterminatus right now?

@@nothingnobody1454 No.

If the US co operated with China we could probably beat an initial invasion. Depending on how fast we adapt their technology for a fight against the second attack would be the decisive factor. That and how much plot armor either side gets, in most of the in lore cases that the Imperium came up against technological worlds they are usually pretty naive. We could for sure lose but it would most likely be an intergration with us barganing for some level of autonomy and staying a pleasure planet with a tribute of humans that want to kill zeno scum

@@taoisttiger4702 okay except they wiped out interstellar factions of humans who had technology from humanity's peak of scientific advancement. They literally already beat us, 38,000 years of advancement beyond the tech of today. To pretend that current era earth would stand a chance is absurd.

None of them will turn loyal again.

The perfect clone of Fulgrim is proof the traitor Primarchs can't come back, unfortunately. Primarchs aren't just flesh and bones, their souls are unique powerhouses and carried the virtues of each Son: Vulkan's invincibility as an eternal, Horus's inhuman charisma and strenght, Corax's invisibility, and so on. The reason why Fabius Bile managed to create Fulgrim's perfect clone is because he used his Primarch soul, floating in the warp after his ascension into Daemon Prince. The corruption entirely stripped them of their immortal souls, replaced with pure warp energy, they aren't coming back.

@@martinbaranyi2129 ​ I don’t know if you read what you wrote but that is exactly what proves that it can be done their “souls” are separate from bodies so if someone can make a perfect vessel for the body then the soul can return That’s why the Big E completely deletes Horus and any trace of him because if any shred of his soul remained then in theory it could return For the record I don’t see them bringing them back as heroes but just because they won’t come back doesn’t mean that they are incapable of it hell the story you just used proves that they can and have😂

@@martinbaranyi2129 If anything Clonegrim is proof that the Primarchs could be brought back much easier thsn initially thought, not that it's impossible. All you need to do is recreate the Primarchs body perfectly, and then coerce the soul back into the body. Remember, the souls were just taken out of the bodies and warp spaghetti was stuffed in, so, as you say, their souls are just freely and randomly floating around in the warp doing nothing, so, just grab the souls, stuff them in a new body, and voila, Loyalist Primarch back in action

@@martinbaranyi2129 I belive that some can return, like Magnus if his soul, exactly noble part was fused back

I don’t see how they could survive. I know far more lore about 40k then Battletech but I just don’t see how they’d survive, mainly due to one thing. Their navy. 40K naval forces are usually setting around the 100+ gigaton range (at high ends were entering into mass scatter planets with naval guns not cyclone torpedos) Battletech navy is POOR compared to the imperiums I don’t think they even hit the gigaton range.

In terms of ground combat, the battletech universe would absolutely win with ease, but when it comes to naval ships, battletech gets absolutely stomped to the ground.

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"Millions" Only accounted for official voidsmen,crewman or basically official enlisted imperial Navy personnel or officer in the gigantic ship... It's still not counted of possibly Billions of labour,servitor or possibly even civilians population that they don't give a fuck or doesn't have fucking idea that they actually through out the time or many generation they lived in ship... On battleship it's also stated that there is basically giant manufacturom factory for necessary people inside the ship and also literal Hive City Inside Spaceship for Bilion Normal citizen that they entirely work for maintained ship,manufacturing production for entire ship complement people that the Complement is size of Literal 2020 Earth Population

100 billion people makes little sense on a planet much less a city, so the hive Lore is pretty wack too

Older lore does usually chalk up a very specific pre-rift number of about 30,000 hive worlds in the Imperium

​@@CM-os7ie New lore basically stated 85% Imperium planet have atleast one or two Hive Cities that each contain range from Bilion and Trillion in single hive city

I just add one or two zeros. There are probably less soldiers in Warhammer Lore than we spend money on this hobby anyways.

I think what you demonstrate here is that GW’s figures do not add up at all, rather than that Majorkill’s number crunching is not represented by any of the lore. It was all based on the lore. What you demonstrate is that different aspects of the lore give you wildly different figures for the number of men under arms.

I think I heard that Orks outnumber humanity about 1000 to 1. And not just guardsmen but ALL of humanity!

@@evanlight2550 add in the fact that 100% of the Ork population fights, there are no civilian Ork. It's totally believable when it's said the Orks could take over the galaxy if they would just stop killing each other.

@@lemonaded2481 and that’s why they can’t take over the galaxy, because 90% of the time they’re just killing themselves because their only instinct is to FIGHT. So most of the time they can’t invade worlds because they’re too busy killing one another

Idk if this comment came before the video was made, but it exists now

If you want disney canon i can't help, but i can for legends

Imperial navy: 25,000 imperial 1 star destroyers, 1.5-40 million smaller warships(based off sector groups), 50+dreadnoughts(around 26 of which are executer classes), a sovereign class(continent/small moon busting laser), two eclipses(continent/small moon), over 263,000(Specter of the past) other star destroyers/similar sized ships, sun crusher(star buster, that tanked a death stat laser), 2 death stars, an extra death star prototype with a functional laser, 2 death star sized habitation spheres, a galaxy gun(snipe planets and ships from across the galaxy), metal crystal phase shifters(bypass shields to weaken hull integrity), the tarken,(planet buster), the conqueror(continent/small moon cracking super laser) and dozens of world devastators(can rip apart planets with tractor beam projectors, while tanking shots from capital ships. Can collect materials to upgrade/grow, and even create new world devastators). There was a plan to include super class star destroyers(8km) in many of the empires sectors. That is potentially 100s. There was also the assertor class(15km), bellator(7km), and mandator III(12km). Imperial army: 10s of trillions(Rebellion era campaign guide) Stormtrooper corps: 100s of millions-billions CompForce: 100s of billions(2nd edition sourcebook) Tanks/repulsorcraft: 2-9 Trillion Walkers: 10s of millions Territory: over a million, and a half full member worlds(rebellion era campaign guide,and 2nd edition source book) , and 5-70+ million colonies(Essential atlas), vessels, and protectorates. Han solo stated to Luke they would have to search six million inhabited systems, and an old republic comic stated the holonet connected six million worlds. Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of superheated plasma, while laser cannons in the kilotons. The attack of the clones cross section states 200 gigatons a shot, and 6 megatons a shot but we treat it as an outlier. Contrary to popular belief star wars shields do protect against projectiles/high velocity attacks. A super star destroyer's shields have tanked rebel cruisers jumping out of hyperspeed, and multi megaton hits from asteroids in an asteroid field. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). Both the 2nd edition sourcebook, and cross section tell us star destroyers are capable of turning the upper crust of planets into slag which we can believe. Carnor jax states an imperial star destroyer can make stone run like water, and turn sand into glass. Going by the bombardment of caamas, it takes several star destroyers to reduce a planet's surface twice the size of earth to molten slag in under twenty four hours. The E-11 is the equivalent of a 14.5mm round with enough heat to punch through a lightly armored or unarmored opponent, and in a new hope it vaporizes steel bars. The DLT-19 was capable of taking down lightly armored vehicles. The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a guass rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

Rebel alliance Navy: 20,160 capital ships, and 105,000-2,800,000(essential guide to warfare states the rebellion had 7% of the empire's naval might at the height of the civil war)support vessels, made up of Nebulon-b frigates(300 meters), Mc80 liberty class cruisers(1200-1500 meters), Mc80 home one class cruisers(1200-1400 meters), MK I assault frigates(700 meters), MK II assault frigates(700 meters), dreadnaught class heavy cruisers(600 meters), Corellian corvettes(150 meters), DP20 frigates(120 meters), Marauder class corvettes(195 meters), YKL-37R nova courier(30 meters), various freighters, captured/stolen imperial ships including star destroyers, salvaged clone wars era ships like providence class destroyers, and lucrehulk battleships. Armed forces: 12,000,000 Overall Personnel: 100s of millions to a few billion(EGTW states 3.5% of the empire's military) Tanks/repulsor craft/walkers: 176,470+ Weapon damage: Turbolasers dish out megatons of energy, while laser cannons in the kilotons. Deflector shields can produce ray shields(Physical/High velocity projectile weapons), and particle shields(energy based weapons). The T-21 light repeating blaster fires the plasma bolt equivalent of a 22.5-30mm bullet from a gauss rifle. Mercenaries using light blaster cannons shot through 4 inches of plasteel. T-21

Thank you. My grandfather sprained his ankle in that war.

Give 10,000 per day so 1 year is 3.6 million, for 10,000 years is 3,650,000 day so total 36,500,000,000 or 36 trillion soul is eaten.... It's extremely many but yet again is 40k iif compare with even Untold population of Imperium that basically fuckton quintillion.

Penal legions are fodder used to complete high attrition tasks, and the criminals and gangsters tend to be the most violent and successful, as the IG will execute a planetary governor if they believe the supplied regiment to be of too low quality.

Not really. They're not biologically enhanced like astartes or custodes or Grey knights. They just have an exo suit and blind zealous faith.

No they aren't in themselves. They're humans decked out with great gear. They do have better training than the average guardsman though and given their faith in the emperor they can randomly become supped up.

They're enhanced by their armour and have psychic superpowers. Sorry I mean miracles happen because of their faith in the Emperor. They may not be enhanced themselves but their abilities are superior to what a base line human could achieve without SoB training, indoctrination and equipment.

They are basically on par with tempestus scions but with better armor and weapons

they are women

This somewhat, but remember the tabletop needs some balance, the lore seems to imply a few thousand marines could probably make world comply by brute force due to unnaturally jacked up they really are, plus the ceremite

there is DEFINATELY over 1000 marines per chapter, AT LEAST high tens of thousands