How Do I Lead Someone Who Thinks They Are a Victim?

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How Do I Lead Someone Who Thinks They Are a Victim?
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@rossmanngroup 2 года назад

I had to sell insurance a long time ago via these types of often cold leads. It was horrible. I actually used to think I was a horrible salesman until I started my own business and recognized that when I am selling people something they want, I'm an amazing salesperson.

@ghjong001 2 года назад

Whoah. Hi Louis - I actually wrote to the Ramsey show a couple months ago to try and get you on. Didn't expect anything, but thought it was worth trying.

@NeyJ 2 года назад

Awesome to know you're a DR watcher too, Louis!

@JP-xq7fo 2 года назад

As a former call center insurance sales agent I'm with you there.

@rnt45t1 2 года назад

Oh, hello there! The man, the myth, the legend Louis Rossman showing up in Dave Ramsey's comments!

@RealGalaxyGamers Год назад

In Dave’s book, “EntreLeadership” he lists people actually wanting to buy a product a huge part of the selling steps.

@wiseowl2020 2 года назад

I work with a "victim" colleague. Her constant need to proclaim her victimhood is a drain on the whole team. We all wish she'd find another job.

@k-mart7475 2 года назад

I think we all need “Abso--Dag-Gum-Lutely” shirts made.

@Mrs.Buttercup_ 2 года назад

I would wear it 😂

@ryankingsley4801 2 года назад

100%

@GC-bk1mv 2 года назад

I can't work with people who hold that victim mentality...nope. I always say "it's okay not to be okay, but it's NOT okay to stay there." pick yourself up (ask for help if you need it) and move forward.

@cabayern9416 2 года назад

They don't want to... They want attention and are rightfighters.

@thatduderal7021 2 года назад

“27 year olds know everything” Me (a 27 year old): “Duh”

@Will-oj3un 2 года назад

Same. I knew that already

@mitshua 2 года назад

I'm 26. Can't wait till I'm smart next year

@thatduderal7021 2 года назад

@@mitshua you’re almost there fam!

@adls04 2 года назад

I got 10 years left until I become smart

@nicholeknight1893 2 года назад

Lol 😆🤣

@lowermichigan4437 2 года назад

To be unclear is to be unkind. I need to remember that.

@SerErryk 2 года назад

Victims who are catered to will always remain victims. The problem with victims is that their lives are too EASY, not too difficult.

@fcallum 2 года назад

@Ransey show_ Highlights- ahahahahaha. Nice try😂

@danielsjohnson 2 года назад

You're over-generalizing, I think. The victim mindset could come from life being too easy or too hard.

@dmz489 2 года назад

@@danielsjohnson and they both can be self inflicted.

@davidmason777 2 года назад

I remember the old heads telling me I can only take the allotted 15 min break but the get a hour every time. We have the same job title. I came back a hour later their face was priceless. I said if you gotta problem go snitch on yourself.

@MP-nj1qy 2 года назад

LOMA😂🤣😂😂😂

@jacqueline8566 2 года назад

👀👀😂😂

@mew9345 2 года назад

As someone who also works in Seattle, this seems accurate 😅

@Evil-Rod-Farva 2 года назад

You replace them. People with victim mentalities cannot be led because that involves taking personal accountability. Victims don’t understand that concept. You aren’t failing them as a boss. Their parents failed them long before you met them.

@krhervey441 2 года назад

Some are not failed by parents but are not willing to put in the hard work but you can't be kind everyoone. Moving forward be firm and clear on what needs to be done. Make sure they understand the company core values and the process.

@WolverineIncognito 2 года назад

Not necessarily failed by their parents. I know people who had great parents who have the victim mentality.

@krhervey441 2 года назад

@@WolverineIncognito The world don't owe nobody nothing you owe yourself. You have to create the life you deserve. Some people hate to see you progress in life cause they think you have a little more than they have and that's sad....point blank

@jessitabonita 2 года назад

🔥🎯💯 Spot on!

@briancroneberger9243 2 года назад

@@WolverineIncognito impossible to know until you've had them as parents

@hidaaa0937 2 года назад

I really like how Dave treated John this episode. I am happy to see he is finally respecting John

@brysonmcguire4021 2 года назад

Appreciated hearing John and Dave share their friendship. Sometimes, they don’t always seem like they like each other

@rwilbher89 2 года назад

I met Dave before learning about systemic ra... I was only making $13 an hour, now I’m making $2000-$2500 a week 👀. I put zero excuses and work hard as if I was going broke tomorrow 😂

@pwade8080 2 года назад

At work we used to say “Leave the drama for your Mama”.

@codingiscreativity 2 года назад

People think when they get fire , it's very easy decision for the company, I was struggling to fire one person for weeks.

@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 2 года назад

Some places, yes. Most could not give a rats behind. If you are looking at working for a company that considers you replaceable, look somewhere else.

@perotal 2 года назад

@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 every one is replaceable though. Even Apple is doing just fine without Steve Jobs

@kCI251 2 года назад

@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 wrong, everyone is replaceable. Some easier than others. As a worker, I learned that to be valued, I needed to deal expensive and difficult to replace. High productivity, skills that nobody else was willing to learn and being early to work is the key to being irreplaceable.

@AdamWatt00 2 года назад

Why’d they get fired

@clair233 2 года назад

" you hired a cat and you're trying to train them to be a dog " 🤣🤣🤣

@Tammohawk1 2 года назад

I have adult kids, 29 and 34. They are not whiners or victims. And they also don't think they know everything. They are hard working intelligent individuals who don't fall for anyone's nonsense.

@1967davethewave 2 года назад

Everyone has had a bad break at some point or another. I know I had a couple when I was 19 and 20. I'm 53 now, financially successful, have a good family and marriage and just a generally great and happy life. If I had lived in the past and lamented about it my entire life then I never would have gone from a little unhappy person to the great life I have today. The victim mentality is either someone living in the past or someone living with a horrible desire to blame everyone but themselves for anything that happens.

@donwayne1357 2 года назад

There's no such thing as a happy victim.

@kaelaleedaley 2 года назад

Absolutely x

@theydontknowmeson007 2 года назад

You've never met anyone that's brainwashed then.

@donwayne1357 2 года назад

@@theydontknowmeson007 If they're brainwashed then they can't have a dirty mind. There, I've run rings round you logically.

@kaelaleedaley 2 года назад

There's no true happiness in forced-living. Surely that's obvious x

@EricDaMAJ 2 года назад

Never hire a perma victim. There is nobody in the world more entitled and unprincipled than one of them.

@cabayern9416 2 года назад

Yes! I work with several victims and these people bring down morale, work less diligently, and complain continually. Makes fr a toxic work environment.

@marthacalkins8054 2 года назад

Unfortunately, NOT hiring a “perma victim” (GREAT term!) just convinces them further that the world is out to get them. Still, don’t hire them anyway.

@clarifyingquestions 2 года назад

Not surprised - from Seattle! Knowing the difference between enabling and helping.

@tonysoprano6265 2 года назад

As much as you love someone you should talk to them. If still not getting results cut them loose for their own good

@Hammid 2 года назад

John Delony is the Echo Charles to Dave Ramsey's Jocko Willink.

@mikeshaw4610 2 года назад

Totally agree, you can different opinions, discuss and still get along. As long as you are not a strong person that does not get upset easy.

@jones2277 2 года назад

depends on the issues and everyone's personal stake in the issues.

@kslucki 2 года назад

"Everything moves in the speed of trust" LOVE this quote 👍🏻

@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 2 года назад

It is somewhat simple. If they steal, threaten someone, are insubordinate or get caught sleeping, the need to go be successful somewhere else. You need to hire a behavior, and you can mostly train a skill.

@ominous450 2 года назад

Getting fired for sleeping on the job is harsh. Just tell them to go home and get some rest. If it becomes a pattern then you can escalate to HR. I'd be homeless if I was fired ever time I dozed off in a meeting. I once rested my eyes for a good minute on a Zoom call. Had to turn off my cam

@jones2277 2 года назад

@@ominous450 expecting to keep a job that you are not performing (because you are sleeping on your employer's dime) is pretty entitled.

@jthomps733 2 года назад

Loving the “cat, dog” references 🤣

@flamingodahlia3703 2 года назад

Fire them and get someone else

@minvesting4410 2 года назад

Why do you care about what the guy is thinking as long as it does not interfere with the business side of things. If he wont produce because he does not want to do the job then fire him

@quabaylajoyner9713 2 года назад

Yeah I’m not sure what’s going on here 😂 if he or she is getting the job done what is issue?

@jones2277 2 года назад

methinks it is the caller who is the problem. he doesn't like the leftist on his staff and is gunning for a reason to terminate him based on his political beliefs.

@annjames1837 2 года назад

"To be unclear is to be unkind"...I am going to borrow that pharse Dave!

@erincosta565 2 года назад

Everyone needs to hear this!

@kenaddoh4693 2 года назад

Great discussion!

@karinhansen4281 2 года назад

Everything moves at the speed of trust....love that

@dominiquealexandria5343 2 года назад

This was a really good discussion! Thanks

@akiiparks 2 года назад

He didn't say what the issue was

@BlessedbytheKingofKings 2 года назад

Lead them to Dave Ramsey.

@BlueStreak706 2 года назад

Fire them! That’s what I wanted to do at my old job, but this system now protects and encourage bad behavior. So I ended up quitting instead.

@dashcamvideos6742 2 года назад

Fire the person. Period.

@domwood481 2 года назад

Dave has way different relationship with AO and Dr.D than with the other hosts. The others have to walk on egg shells around Dave.

@justinbratton1235 2 года назад

and you can tell that Dr. D does to an extent as well.

@Pandorash8 2 года назад

I honestly think that the only personality who doesn’t have to walk on eggshells, and for this reason I love it when she’s on the show, is Rachel.

@domwood481 2 года назад

@@Pandorash8 Well, she doesn’t really count since she’s his daughter. But yes her aswell

@Lilbit2215 2 года назад

Dave's laugh is so contagious lol

@j.m0ney133 2 года назад

If the person can’t accept ownership of their actions then it will become difficult counsel them.

@WLpeasant 2 года назад

7:30 John was not kidding btw

@shawneemainservice 2 года назад

I'm surprised more people didn't pickup on that!

@leereyno 2 года назад

Scratch a victim, find a failure.

@GodnMe 2 года назад

I totally agree!

@BasedRichardNixon 2 года назад

Fire that guy and hire me, I’ll move to Seattle!! Hahahahahaha

@aprilflowers1993 2 года назад

Selling insurance is BS. Cold calling people and stuff. No one I know wants to buy insurance from a random person.

@davidmilhouscarter8198 2 года назад

Vox needs to watch these videos.

@TheRamseyShow 2 года назад

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@rollingacresfarmstead206 2 года назад

"it use to be cool to flip the bird to the system, now its trendy to be offended and claim your a victim" HOG

@matthewjohnson1317 2 года назад

I don’t do drama.

@MoonlightXYZ 2 года назад

Of course this is taking place in Seattle.

@AdamWatt00 2 года назад

Sounds like politics. I wouldn’t let go of someone cause they don’t agree w me

@robertrudisill5777 2 года назад

If you Even have to ask the question, you know the answer to the problem.

@TheeRomantic 2 года назад

If someone isn't bring in the money.. it's time to GO 🥾 I'd sit them down talk about the issues and tell him/her they have a month to correct it or they need to start looking for a new career.

@aaronmccreless110 2 года назад

So....what are the definitions of beliefs verses values?

@relaxed69electr 2 года назад

I agree with Dave and not with the other gentleman what so ever he's giving a doctors point of view and the guy who called needs help coming from a leadership point of view like Dave has built a huge company

@travispierre-louis9359 Год назад

This sounds like a retaliation lawsuit lol.

@NeccoWecco 2 года назад

Systemic issues are very real. However, this person shouldn't let it destroy an opportunity that is given to them. I don't feel like we were given any details, so it's hard to judge.

@evalina98000 2 года назад

"playing the victim fiddle"🎻 Yessiree, Uncle Dave, call it like it is 👍🏽

@jazzyj6640 2 года назад

Not sure if he’s talking about systemic racism in this conversation but I just want to say that it is a thing, that’s true but just because you believe it doesn’t make you a victim. It’s just good to be aware of this and actively make a difference. Not ignore it because it’s “not your problem”. Now maybe I’ve misunderstood the content of this conversation and if so, please share your thoughts in a respectful way. Thank you. 😊

@quabaylajoyner9713 2 года назад

I really wish they had asked questions about how the person is performing in the job and what the work environment is like. If they’re disagreeing politically I’m not sure why that’s a reason to contemplate firing someone

@malyikaj 2 года назад

Yeah I had the same hunch when I was listening to the conversation. I figured it must be bad if the person is contemplating firing this person. The worker must've let that be known continuously for months. It probably wasn't just one conversation. Which means they're probably having political conversations, which isn't a good idea...ever.

@huckleberryfinn8795 2 года назад

Im 34 and Im definitely one of the awesome millennials.

@andread9899 2 года назад

Big philosophy here

@cammy60467 2 года назад

It’s so funny as a 22year old listening to y’all say 27 years old is young 😂

@mitshua 2 года назад

'have you sat down and said here are the things that need to change' "I have not" Start with that maybe. Y'all trying to get someone fired without giving them a chance

@BrezzyBoi33 2 года назад

Caller sounds more like a victim than the other guy

@jjf1058 2 года назад

Some people was born to be a head, others was born to be a neck. Sometimes I think Davis get call from kindergarten to solve kids problems.

@sharp52092 2 года назад

That's what some people and political groups are preaching, it's sadly not surprising.

@hollyb6885 2 года назад

What’s this got to do with finances?

@aglez9266 2 года назад

That person is messing up with the work environment and that affects bussines

@lauvasquez7198 2 года назад

Because he is paying this “victim” with money. Personally why did he even bother to call. Just fire the dude.

@hollyb6885 2 года назад

@@lauvasquez7198 Yeah. Seems like he needs a course in Management rather than calling Dave.

@azteca6695 2 года назад

Didn't Dave pull out a gun during a staff meeting?

@Tim-57 2 года назад

😯 Really!?

@rebeccaoprea9917 2 года назад

You’re either a victim or a victor .

@hustlasstory7611 2 года назад

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@brenolad 2 года назад

Of course Dave loves capitalism; the whole business model of the Ramsay Show is based off crippling debt.

@michaelvan6675 2 года назад

What debt have to do with capitalism?

@tristenbrandt6608 2 года назад

@@michaelvan6675 I recently learned that some people believe capitalism is the sole reason that college is so expensive. It could be related in some way to that. The idea being there is no choice but to take massive loans to go college to get a decent job.

@alexgg7499 2 года назад

To me is called snowflakes

@front331 2 года назад

how hard was it to say "they play the victim card." Why did you have to compare your viewpoint at 48 years old to a 27 year old? Are you saying 27 year olds are immature deviants? sounds like you are using some of the "isms" that Dave was talking about.

@cm5394 2 года назад

Great way to read into what someone said and put words in their mouth. He was giving them the benefit of the doubt and said maybe they just need more time and coaching