How Far Did it Fly?! HappyModel Mobula7 1s Whoop ExpressLRS 

You too, thank you for sharing that! Really inspires me to keep making content.

Very! I cannot believe how far this little drone can go. The tech we have now is pretty amazing.

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It was! So much range on these quads now, it will never be an issue. Thanks buddy.

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@@JohnCuppi soon as this heat breaks I plan to get it out. Been over 100 for the last 3 weeks here plus 100% humidity it’s brutal and to hot for the gear and me lol!

@@ADKDronesRC it was hot the morning we did this review too, but had to get it done!

Thanks for the support! 😎

@@JohnCuppi I really enjoyed it, I think my mind is now made up as to what whoop I’m going to get 😃👍🤝

Subbed you too! Always looking to support other channels in FPV. Thank you sir.

@@JohnCuppi Thanks a lot!👍

Thank you much appreciated!

👍😎 Hell yeah.

Whoop whoop! 🤘

Thank you! Have a great day too!

Thank you for the comment! Apparently a lot of people have expressed the same thought, I did not know so many were curious how far this quad could fly.

Antennas are the most important. To achieve this, if you notice the white square-like antenna on my goggles -- that's called a patch antenna. It's a linear patch antenna which mean it's directional, it has a narrow but far reception beam to capture signal. The patch is called the MenaceRC bandicoot. Second, goggle receiver is definitely important as well. Even if you replace the antennas on the betafpv goggle, you may still not achieve this range, a variety of factors go into the sensitivity and quality of a receiver itself. On the cetus x kit, I notice the antenna for the goggle is off to the side. Are you able to unscrew that antenna or is it set in there? It would not hurt to try buying a patch antenna and installing it if it can be easily unscrewed/removed, just keep in mind that patch antennas are very directional, flying behind yourself you'll lose video.

@@JohnCuppi thanks for the reply! i did some more research after writing the inital comment. the antennas on the betafpv googles are replaceable and i´ll propably go for some rp-sma circular antenna at first. i have no big intrest in flying far away - i´m happy with a 250m radius, mostly flying in parks and around playgrounds atm. atm i start to get heavy distortion when i´m like 100m away with some obstacles inbetween. i did an open field test today and was able to get around 500m with clear sight before heading back because my battery was at about 50% . i just invested some money in a mobula7 and the next upgrade will probably be some better goggles where i can attach 2 antennas and maybe a rapidfire modul afterwards. pretty happy with the erls controller, i don´t see a reason to upgrade it in the near future

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At 250hz control link speed, it makes the whoops feel much more snappy. I’ll fly my D8 hardware until it dies, but anything new is going to be ELRS.

@@JohnCuppi Yeah I wish I could get a module and figure it out. Maybe one mate,

It was. Thanks for checking it out.

I will, thanks for checking it out!

It has quickly become one of my favorites. Thanks!

Yes, the ‘6’ in 6:100 is for 250hz. 😎🤘 thanks man!

@@JohnCuppi sweet bruh. I got about 700m on 500Hz for mine. It literally is doubled.

​@@shogunemperor If I could run 500hz I might, but I can't since I'm on tango2. I tried 500hz recently on my Taranis X9D+ and I cannot really 'feel' the difference -- probably too slow, lol! I'll probably just stick with 250hz.

@@JohnCuppi oooooohhhh... I see what u mean. Well, on 500Hz the movements are quite literal to your hands. But the range is much shorter... I'd do 250Hz... but i seldom fly far. Awesome video bruh

Should be able to change it in betaflight under vtx settings, sorry for the late reply.

Yes, this mobula is excellent for starters. I still recommend the Eachine EV800DM box goggles as a budget pair. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_Pi0815ZR0o.html

It’s all stock I only added my rates :)

There’s no _direct_ relation between packet data transfer rate (hz) and output power. A higher output power will have a further reach and increase penetration overall, however, the packet rate DOES come into play in furthering your distance regardless of output power. Think of your radio link range like a straw that starts with a very huge opening, and then keeps narrowing until it reaches the very end. Your data demands fit into this straw easily close by, but as you leave the location, and the straw becomes more narrow, eventually it reaches the point that your data packet transfer demand is too high to fit in the end of the narrowed straw. Once your data demand cannot fit, packets don’t make it to the destination, link quality suffers, and you lose connection. If I redid this test with 150hz I could achieve a farther distance but I’d outrun my battery life.

For having a decent range and control link feel, I’d say 250hz is the sweet spot for packet rate if you’re doing freestyle. That’s what I run for everything, whether it’s a whoop or not. Have not felt 500hz and up is necessary.

@@JohnCuppi and 250 Hz at 400mw like on this video? Thanks a lot! That makes things clearer.

@@Cuisinenomade1 noooo… 400mw in this video refers to the video transmission out power power. That’s totally different. If you’re flying by yourself, ALWAYS max out the video transmission output power. ELRS has an output power too. I flew ELRS here at 200mw on my module on 2.4G hz, and 400mw video link at 5.8ghz. ELRS can do up to 1000mw, but it is honestly overkill and is a serious drain on battery life. I usually fly ELRS freestyle at no more than 50mw, a little power goes a long way with ELRS. Not so much for video.

@@JohnCuppi oh, I see now, that was my confusion, i did not know there was mw for video and for the module, I thought it was just one and thus my confusion thanks again!

I’ll let @1eyeinthesky know! Thanks Matt!

@@JohnCuppi You're welcome buddy

Huh? No, I was not in the truck.

Raceband 1. Sorry, I don’t know if the power output is the same for all of them or how much it varies.

yes, even 150hz would have increased the range significantly.

My personal preference for indoors is the 65mm size, Happymodel Mobula6 is my favorite indoors. The meteor65 would also be fine.

@@JohnCuppi got it, thank you

Yes this came with 2.0 but I upgraded it to 3.0

SPI range = lower the packet rate / hz, and increase output power of the module. Video range = max out the vtx output power. Make sure you’re using a linear patch antenna on your goggles like I do. I recommend the MenaceRC viper patch.

@@JohnCuppi got it. I also found that that i need to find a preset for RC link in betaflight and set the band and channel manually and I was using the "auto search" and had no ideo of the presets. Thanks!

@@Cuisinenomade1 Correct, the right ELRS preset should be setup, though that is more to do with the flight feel / tune than range. And yes, always select band/ch manually on your goggle receiver -- the auto band scan unfortunately often doesn't work well.

Correct, the Lua script is backwards compatible with 2.x 👍

Yes, but I call it at that point since I don’t want to damage the battery. Plus you do start to feel a big performance loss once it’s dipping there.

Tango 2 + ExpressLRS 2.4ghz.

This is stock settings and - no gyroflow used for this.

This is also the non-HD version of the mobula7 1s, it's analog only, there's no gyroflow data from the camera to be had. The HD version is also ELRS, so you will get the same range, but the flight time will be a lot less than this.

No advantage at all, it just got bent in a previous crash. I fixed it in my preflight check before I took off for the distance test. As for 2s, it’s not advertised to run 2s and the motors are high kv (0802 20,000kv) honestly for it. May work ok with an rpm limit of sorts. The X12 5-IN-1 AIO does take 1S-2S input though, so it wont blow the board up to plug a 2s in. But there is no 2s battery that will fit the stock frame either so that would be another thing to address. I remember the original mobula7 v1 from 3 years ago came with a 3d printed holder to stack 2 of the 1s batteries I’m using in this video together. But that mobula7 also had 2x PH 2.0 connectors as well, this just has the one.

@@JohnCuppi Thanks John, appreciate your reply! Good to know the FC supports 2s. The v2 has 16,000 kv and is a blast on 2s. Think I’m going to get this one and will use scaling if necessary. These things handle wind surprisingly well, which I need as I live on a hilltop farm in Mo and it’s almost always windy. Thanks again 🙏🏼

@@modquad18 I also live in Missouri, where around are you at?

@@modquad18 BTW I agree the camera is mediocre in picture quality but the size/weight/picture is currently unmatched as far as I know. It seems that for the last 3 years we have hit a wall in micro analog cameras. This is the same camera happymodel has been using since the introduction of the mobula6 in 2019, I think? The caddx ant lite at 1200TVL would be a great replacement but the trade off is added weight. I have been wanting to see a camera with the same size/weight as the caddx ant 1200tvl shrunk down to the same size/weight, but it just hasn’t happened… I want to think it will eventually.

@@JohnCuppi I’m NE in Pike Co. Near Bowling Green

This model has a ceramic antenna, so that was certainly a limiting factor.

We didn’t look at that, but I have a Google maps reference and measurement for the area in the spot that the drone went down, it's in the range test chapter of this video.

ELRS was the bottleneck. Around 1:30 onward you can see the LQ getting really bad and RXLOSS messages start to flash. But video is fine, although video was getting scratchy here and there as well as the trees were approached, in the end you can see “RXLOSS” and the quad goes down.

Not sure what you mean.

I meant,is there a limit to the battery that the module 7 can handle before it breaks. Cause i have one, and it broke when I used new batteries

@@capitaineyoyo3076 Yes, it only takes 1S batteries.

X12 5-IN-1 AIO flight controller on this can take 2s input, but the motors are specced for 1s. Don’t fly on 2s unless you know how to limit the motor rpm output.

1.45 miles / 2.33 km

Thanks John! I just got my Mobula 7 last night. I was shocked how tiny it is! Question: My city (Kingman, AZ) is so windy, do you think I can master doing flips with the Mobula 7 indoors? I have a large living/dinning room with vaulted ceilings.

Thank you!

The antenna was the ceramic one, so that played the factor in the limited range - but I could have also dropped the packet rate to a slower speed and it would have drastically increased my range as well. I tested it on 250hz just to see what would happen, and the results were pretty awesome. Thanks for watching.

No physical beeper on these or any other small whoop, it’s just too big and heavy to include. However you can configure the motors to beep! They can even be made to sing! I made a video on the singing here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7HfyztXcnP0.html but anyway, the downside to the motor beeps is that they are not actually very loud at all. Much harder to hear than a full size proper buzzer but also better than nothing.

@@JohnCuppi My v2 Mob 7 has a really loud external beeper. Bummer that this one does not 😫

@@modquad18 Really? Weird mine never did.

@@modquad18 I should have been more clear also before making blanketing strong statements like “it’s too heavy to include.” You definitely can install a full size buzzer to a 65/75 whoop. And some of the ones I’ve flown in the last long ago did include one, but due to performance reasons manufacturers have by and large stopped including them on most new releases today. The board has buzzer pads though for anyone who wants to go ahead and add one!

@@JohnCuppi Yes, and it’s by far the loudest I’ve ever heard. I install beepers on all my quads (that don’t include them), a must for me because I grow feed hay and it’s 4 feet tall at times.

Thank you! I subscribed to you and will await your next video. :)

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What ?

@@JohnCuppi to keep the bugs off me when I'm flying 😆👍

@@jasonsuffolkuk oh lol I assume in this video bugs were getting at me or something? Sorry I don’t remember since I made this over a year ago, and seeing “I got a mosquito net” looked so random, Lol! 😆

@JohnCuppi random it was 😆 yeah you mentioned the bugs,they do get annoying sometimes

And that’s why I have awesome friends to help me out with these crazy tests. Thanks for checking it out!