How Good is Lyn ACTUALLY...in the Binding Blade? (Analysis) 

Quick note: I mistakingly say in the video Amberstorm is the lead of Project Ember. The proper term would be that they're part of the team (advisor and additional voice on balancing) . The lead dev of Project Ember is Brunhilda.

It's so surreal seeing how over the years, Mekkah's channel went from constantly being memed on for low resolution videos and other editing stuff to an over the top editing style thanks to the talented editors he hired

to this day I still don't understand what was going through IS's heads when they made the Sol Katti... They literally made a weapon that completely removes her core advantage of her speed

As someone who started their FE journey in FE7, this video was a passion project to make. Hope you all enjoy Mekkah's analysis of the Blynding Blade! :)

One of the big things for me against her is her comparison to swordmasters. While their stats are similar, Lyn is missing out on that big crit bonus they get that helps their damage output a lot.

Lyn by far some of the best animations in FE and that's high praise for how good the animation in the GBA era was.

This is a great exploration on how much a game reflects the units within it. It tends that newer people don't quite understand the "meta" of a given FE game, so they tend to not understand the whys of how certain characters are good or bad, and this highlights those whys beautifully. Wonderful work Mekkah, Davis, and Ryn.

I feel like an interesting follow-up experiment to this if you wanted to do something else similar would be swapping an entire cast. Like, what if all the characters from FE8 were replaced with FE7 characters? How would their usefulness change in a different game? Kind of like reverse recruitment does, it shows off how much of a unit's value is from their situation and the game around them rather than their raw stats. Nice overview, I really enjoyed the FE6 LP and the vindication that Lyn would indeed be better there.

My major gripes with Lyn is on a conceptual level. In this game with 3 main characters, you have at base 2 who use swords and one who uses axes. Wouldn't it make more sense if each of them used a different weapon of the weapon triangle ? So that they would feel unique, so that you'd have a solid core of units that can deal with most threats ? Really, if we wanted to be consistent, Eliwood should have started with lances and upon promotion, got sword weapon ranks so that he could use the lengendary blade. That would give Lyn the mandatory role of sword-locked lord but at least she would crit a lot more than most, making her a bit more memorable. When it comes to her promotion, I feel like she should have been a ranger from fe8, with access to a mount, swords and bows, which would have made her very unique in Fe7, not to mention it would be in line with her Saccean background. But hey, can't really change the past and it's become a staple in this franchise that all main characters use a sword and nothing else (aside of a few exceptions). EDIT: Wow, like a flipping idiot, I forgot that the "ranger" from FE8 already exists in FE7 as the Nomadic Trooper. Really shows which game I played most, heh. My point still stand tho, either give Lyn a horse or give her the bonus crit sword masters get, I mean good lord, she's clearly supposed to be a myrmidon and just because she gets bows the developpers were like, "can't give her more crit, would be unbalanced"; well so are paladins with 8 moves, super good stats and access to the entirety of the weapon triangle.

"Lyndys' Legion and Greil Mercs are the only groups like that I can think of" 7th Platoon enjoyers assemble

I get that the games can only be so generous with starting stats, but Lyn always felt especially disappointing when we're expected to believe this is a pure survivalist Sacaean forced to live largely on her own and train on her own with little aid. Florina, a timid but legitimate Pegasus Knight of a prestigious realm, counts on her skill and resourcefulness as well as her courageous demeanor whenever threats popped up. Lyn really feels like the type to have at least an extra half a boost item's effect in every stat of hers than what she actually starts out with, along with the "Afa's Drop"'s worth in growths added to assure her strong points don't get RNG screwed and her weaker stats have an extra point or two longterm on average to keep her from losing her momentum. She really should be a pretty robust woman if Lundgreen thought plain dwellers are such savages worth his irrational ire and Rath was considered "one of the good ones" by a noble that didn't take kindly to their kind except his exceptional skill and leadership. Instead her starting stats are way worse than PRINCE Zephiel's as an NPC.

Very well done video. As a Lyn fan even I admit that while she is usable hector hard mode really does show that the game works against her strengths. Still love her but even I will admit she has large short comings. Your FE6 Lyn run shows that a game can make a difference for a unit in fire emblem.

“You do you. It’s your game” Words we always love to hear. Thanks as always for a great video! Love these high quality scripted works & appreciate all the hard work that goes into them!

I would not say feeding a bunch of boss kills to lyn is really favoring at all because like you said she was good at them like rutger and most of the time the average playier would probley give a boss kill to a unit who needed it a bit more then someone like rutger who can pretty much just perform well without help once he promotes

It seems like Lyn's major problem stems from late promotion. Cause she was having trouble even in the early game of FE6, but it wasn't until she got the huge boost of the Blade Lord promotion that she was able to begin to develop into a better unit.

Wow, the video looks amazing, props to the editor Davis Gagnon^^ Also half an hour analysis on Lyn's utility in FE6? This definitely should go in the "Best of Mekkah" playlist!

Literally came here from the stoutland video, nice

Lyn from Gen 7 to Gen 6 went from PU to UU

Someone's been watching False Swipe Gaming

Really, I think the issue with Lyn's support partners being kinda wack is funny, because one of Lyn's best traits in vanilla FE7 is that it's very difficult to get a team where she can't support anyone. If you wanted it fully, you could have it look something like... - Roy for Eliwood - Lilina for Hector - Shanna or Thea for Florina - Shin for Rath - Allen for Kent - Wolt for Wil - Douglas or Barth for Wallace Which I think is a pretty solid set of partners.

And in this video, we'll be covering these competitive formats.

​After watching this video, some of you might be wondering: What about FE8? How well would Lyn work there? Well, good news! You can find that out for yourself: Eirika and Lyn have nearly identical bases and growths. Lyn's (Lyn Mode) Bases: HP 16 | Atk 4 | Skl 7 | Spd 9 | Lck 5 | Def 2 | Res 0 | Con 5 | Mov 5 | Aid 4 Eirika's Bases: HP 16 | Atk 4 | Skl 8 | Spd 9 | Lck 5 | Def 3 | Res 1 | Con 5 | Mov 5 | Aid 4 Lyn's Growths: HP 70% | Atk 40% | Skl 60% | Spd 60% | Lck 55% | Def 20% | Res 30% Eirika's Growths: HP 70% | Atk 40% | Skl 60% | Spd 60% | Lck 60% | Def 30% | Res 30% The Mani Katti also shares its weapon effectiveness targets (horses and knights) with Eirika's Rapier. Eirika is just Lyn trying to sneak her way into another game. Bonus: Lyn's Promotion Bonuses: Bow Rank: D HP +3 | Atk +2 | Skl +2 | Spd +0 |Def +3 | Res +5 | Con +1 | Mov +1 Eirika's Promotion Bonuses: Sword Rank: +70 wexp HP +4 | Atk +2 | Skl +2 | Spd +1 | Def +3 | Res +5 | Con +2 | Mov +2 Movement Type: Mounted Admittedly, the Mov, Canto, and Weapon Type differences after promo are actually somewhat significant (as is Eirika's lategame Prf weapon, Sieglinde), but their stat gains from promoting are still scarily similar and both Eirika and Lyn both have promotions that come relatively late into the game.

The production value on this is excellent, absolutely worth the wait! Was so excited when I saw the tweet lol

Dude this video rules. Thanks for all the work that went into making this!

This has been one of the most anticipated videos in a while for me. Glad to see it happen. Great job on the analysis and praise be to Davis for the editing work.

Awesome video! I'm rewatching your FE6 Lyn playthrough. I was keeping track of all Lyn kills but I might stop since it seems you got it covered and I didn't realize how crazy it would be tracking every single kill. A video of all her Levels and Boss kills could be fun though maybe I'll keep trying to time stamp those at least

Just wanna give a shoutout to the editor, I always enjoy listening to Mekkah's voice, but the little animations and overlays make it also a real pleasure to watch

Very nice video, a lot of data compacted neatly in an easy to watch format ! Also, the GBA battle phase sprite are so good ! I never get tired by those.

been following you for a very long time mekkah, and this is one of your best videos yet! great job! love the use of soul calibur music too :)

If this leads to Lyn in the FE6 remake I’m blaming you

awesome vid! definitely going to try this edit of fe6 after my first casual playthrough :)

I loved the editing! Great video as always Mekkah!

Really well put together analysis with some fantastic editing! Makes you wonder what other units could benefit from being put in a different game or scenario. Though I think Lyn's probably the most unique of them.

Damn... 3 Def at level 20. The promotion doubled her Def.

Props to your editor he did a great job👍 great analysis as always🙌

If there ever is a Binding Blade remake, it’d make so much sense to add Lyn.

Great vid, loved the experiment. Keep making more!

I’d love to see this as a series!

Now you need to play Fe7 with Bors.

Good video, im trying to think of units that could be good in other games but fall short in their own, but i really cant think of any other than Lyn. I think if your going to do something like this again, Shadow Dragon would be a good place to do it, although i have no idea what unit you would insert into that game. Edit: I thought of one. Logan from the Last Promise; extremely high speed and skill, but in his game he gets absolutely destroyed due to the fact you need to give up a powerful hero for a weak myrmidon. It is another sword user but what can you do.

This may seem a bit off-topic, but I like how you choose "Hubris" from Soul Calibur 2 at 7:59. I'm just saying because one of the characters that appear there, whose name is Xianghua, has the same english VA as Lyn, Wendee Lee. Not only that, the song "Hubris" is used on what's basically Xianghua's (and Mitsurugi's) stage (at least on the character profile mode), so I found that kind of detail nice. Other than that, I also really like the video. It goes to show how some characters can do better in other games than the one where they came from (Ex. Roy).

could just be a personal thing, but my lyn consistently dodgetanked hordes on enemies, even ones with lances, and I could basically stick her in a forest and watch the enemies disappear. Although because if this she would usually get more exp and be much stronger than my other units (she hit level 20 about 10 chapters before she promoted) so that definitely helped in her dominance.

Mekkah did you really put in that clip of Lyn with no weapons from the PVP vs Gwimpage? Showing off the galaxy brain strats 🥰

If lyn was in FE6 it would be quite ironic for her to kill zephil considering she was one of the people who saved his life during the assassination attempt when he was still a prince. For zephil it would be like seeing the former hero be the one to kill him.

Saw the entire series this year it made me really happy... Luv u Mekkah ❤

Interesting challenge ! It gave me the idea to make a Binding Blade hack with the best version of every character archetype (like best Jagen, best fighter bro, just keeping the class and take the best character un all three game with the same class and level). I don't know if that interest you, but it's almost over !

Maybe this will finally make me be able to finish fe6 I’ll try it out!

I really enjoyed this video! Actually Mekkah after the whole Mangs situations I left the FE community and didn't play or watch any content, it affected me that much. But it was your Lynding Blade series that got me back into FE but also your channel. I've rediscovered my love of FE because you and for that I am thankful :)

This is some amazing editing :o Well done Mekkah!

Dude this video was a masterpiece!!

20:19 I saw that!! Very INTERESTING maneuver there.

She's my favourite lord out of the three, I remember the day's when she swept all the enemies in my playthrough with minimum effort, she lacks defence compared to the other lord but her avoid is so high she rarely gets hit in my playthrough.

I haven't watched the let's play but I have a mental image of Lynn responding: " you were such a cute little baby when I babysit you!" hector's daughter blushing. " and you were such a terror with ant florina! If it wasn't for your magic affinity I was afraid that you would just steal horses especially the flying ones." giving that stern look.

"Even a reject can surpass the elite if they train hard enough" -Son Goku Lyn: But I suck- Goku DID I STUTTER?

Great vid, really funny edits too 😂

very enjoyable video mekkah!

The first time I ever beat blazing blade (or any fire emblem game for that matter), I used Lynn as my only attacking unit. It was one of the hardest challenges I've done in fire emblem since in a lot of the later levels I had to bring along Eliwood as well. As someone who knows Lynn I am forced to agree with your assessment despite the fact that I'd much rather use her than most other objectively better units. I really needed to pump her def. (which afa's drops helped with a lot). I do however think that her high skill, although not as high as some others makes her more worth it.

This was super interesting. Will you possibly try to see how other lords work in a different game?

My iron man run resulted in Lyn having MORE strength than Hector until the 3 last chapters when they got even, what the hell were those two rolling, lmao

Great video, great editing.

I just finished playing FE7 after it got ported to gba online. Lyn was the ONLY unit that could damage the fire dragon and survive the counter attack. Without her, I wouldn’t be able to beat the game. She will always be my favorite lord because of that

Good to see Lyn putting in work :3 You just know if FE7 ever gets remade, the designers are hyper buffing the gal given her Heroes popularity. But I think what this exercise demonstrates is, Lyn is a flawed character in a rather unfortunate circumstance in FE7. While still flawed in 6, her qualities as a combat unit get to shine a little more. My hope is that they wouldn't go overboard and make Lyn some solo army badass that invalidates the others based solely on popularity, and rather they take the time to explore unique gameplay tweaks to make her a fun option that isn't busted.

Now see how good Lyn is in Thracia 776.

I was introduced to the series with FE8. But a few years ago I started playing the older games and they blew me away. FE7 especially is just sooooo good.

This was a great video. Also, I noticed how many Thracia maps they copy and pasted. I know this is the game after Thracia but man, it's literally the same map layout.

Man, the soundtracks you choose always amaze me. Zelda OoT and Soul Calibur 2, among others. I love them!

21:22 I love that chibi Jeigan can fill in for Marcus.

It’s worth mentioning (surprised Mekkah didn’t mention it) that Lyn’s bases in this playthrough were the worst possible version of her bases; the bases used were her Lyn Mode bases not including her guaranteed perfect level up in the Prologue.

Another issue of lyn is that her death is a game over, which isn't a big deal if you're planning to reset when a unit dies, but if you don't you really don't want to risk her. That makes her even worse as a dodge tank because the weakness of dodge tank is that they can just die if you're unlucky which is fine you'll usually avoid those situations but if you're in a very bad position you might take some risk which will payoff more often than not. But if the cost of bad luck is failing the chapter you can't really take the risk and might leave a unit who could have survived left to die to ensure lyn does not die. This isn't as much a problem with a character like hector because more defensive tanks are more stable and predictible in how much they can take.

Your two Lyn videos are two of my favorites and pretty much the origin of WAIFU. This was a fun video! absolutely loved it

You should get a portrait of an older Lyn to fit with the game being further down the timeline.

27:10 : Well, there's also the Wo Dao that you could get from Fir in the Western Isles arc, too, which also doesn't weigh her down. I find it interesting that you didn't talk about it, as Lyn's classes are supposedly a Myrmidon/Swordmaster class type. Not that it actually changes much in the grand scheme of things, but it was worth bringing up.

right after stoutland dropped

It's funny how many people just came from the Stoutland video

Good video mekkah!

At 9:17 you mentioned getting the first Knight Crest (ideally for Sain or Kent), but actually!!! :D If you play Lyn hard mode, and feed Sain or Kent pretty much all kills, and you really don't mind getting one of them all the way up to 20, you can easily just have useless Wallace trade them the Knight Crest he has. I never, ever use Wallace because he's a slow moving piece of crap General. I usually train only Sain, and by the time I get to the final Lyn chapter, right before she captures the castle where Lundgren is, I have Sain promote. He's usually around level 12-14 which anyways is high enough, and there is even a Angelic Robe and Energy Ring that he can "consume" to give him a little more strength and HP before Hector Hard Mode starts :)

I love lyn's crit animation.

It is vindicating to see an old favorite given the opportunity to demonstrate their worth in a context that lets them do so to the fullest. Thanks, Mekkah.

This is a thing of beauty!

This is very well made!

close to the heart. very interesting choice of words

I am late 5 months but I saw a video today of how the 3 lord's of FE7 handles into the Arena until they die. Lyn won, Eliwood second and Hector got only 4 kills while the others got 10+ kills, Hector sure got them easily but got killed just as quick.

Looking forward to seeing best girl come back for FE Engage in January! I hope you stream some more Fire Emblem games. I would love to catch that sometime.

I wonder if there are any characters that are the opposite of Lyn. Where they are dominate in their original game, but if you ported them into another game they'd be bad, or at least not as good as they originally were.

The editing on this video is impeccable Mekkah, fine work

I like Lyndis because she is a MYRMIDON WITH AVOID AND VERY GOOD STAT BONUSES.

Something I've wondered about for a long time are which characters that are "bad", would be "good" if they were in a different game?

She would be amazing in Dark Deity, she won't suffer the late game promotion issue, and speed stat is king in the game. She loses access to bows if she were to be copy and pasted into the game but shed basically be an evade tank with great resistance to magic and that's a top tier unit right there

The Mystery Dungeon sound effects hit different.

Honestly it's funny that she has the ability to use bows in her promoted class but until recently and it's crazy how I missed this in my playthrough, I would have thought the game would say "this unit can now use this weapon" when she upgraded but I must have just missed it.

Blazing Blade was my first FE like many and remains one of my favorites. It still kinda blows me away to learn units I adore aren't nearly as good as I thought. Lyn always felt like a dps beast. Yeah, I had to advance her carefully at times, but it seemed like any enemy that she faced had been sentenced to death.

It’s been years since I played the game but by late game Lyn was one of my best units, she almost never got hit and got a crit on almost every attack.

Is there any chance there's a similar patch adding Ephraim to FE6? I've never played FE6 but FE8 was my favorite as a kid and if I'd be able to bring my favorite character over I'd be so dang excited to play

13:00 Kinda feels like "hey, (possible) mom. Look what I have here.

Aaah, interesante táctica, ciertamente, Mekkah. Finally this video dropped! And I gotta say, it was worth the wait. Thank you so much for the series, again, and for the analysis. Lyndis sure end up being good :) As a side note, maaaaaybe one could say that the only remaining thing regarding this is an extra video compiling the reports on Lyndis performance...? Not necessary, I suppose, but it does not sound too bad. Keep the good content, Mekkah!

i still love this guy's analysis even if ive never played a FE game in my life

Is this a False Swipe Gaming reference

love the zelda music and love the analysis!

I just started playing it. My first two Lyn's levels ups are not bad.

All that maybe needs to exist now is an "older" Lyn design specifically for this romhack