How movies teach manhood | Colin Stokes 

The best animated show of all time. ☺💜

I agree, it also shows that boys can’t be good at everything

Katara and Toph, even Azula were extremely empowering and powerful in this show I absolutely loved it

Ragnar true! But we can change that by teaching our children to respect themselves and each other :)

@@snowfoxxie yea we should definitely respect each other, but we shouldn't ignore the fact man and woman are different and have different qualities.

Snokalo Amen! I wrote a term paper on this!

@A Miffed Cuttlefish Are you high?

@Jake Garcia Not enough

@Jake Garcia ? There are not enough mainstream representation of strong feminine women. A sexy superhero costume isn't feminine. We don't need superheroes, just regular strong women.

@Jake Garcia Bruh I just want to see strong females like my grandma be represented. Are you gonna hate on my grandma? You really have the balls to hate on an 87 year old lady?

@haze No they are not. Concepts of masculinity and femininity may vary by culture, but every culture has male and female genders (there's a reason gender identities outside of male and female are called 3rd Genders). Besides, with the effects of Americanization, globalisation, cultural assimilation and cultural appropriation, Japanese popular culture is highly influenced by Western viewpoints anyway.

you don't watch for the story? ㅎㅎㅎ

kyu1004 yes. Representation and empowerment is nice, but those should serve an interesting and investing story. Watch or read for good stories, not for Social Justice Cookie Points.

@@carlosalmonacid8958 studio ghibli is actually good

@@COVID--kf3tx He didn't say they were bad, im pretty sure he was replying to haze, rather than the op

that movie is among the best i have ever watched

One of my faveourite movies of all time.

Haku x chihiro is literally the best ship to ever exist and no one can tell me otherwise

@@calibri6782 Due, they are around 10 to 12 years old XD Let them play and build a treehause. Maybe later

Any ghibli movie has a compelling female character not because they are a strong FEMALE character but a STRONG female character. They are good because they are based on actual women in his life, they have strengths, they have weaknesses. They have fears and are vulnerable. To me what makes a good character is not by how strong they are, but about how human they are, if they are someone who can cry, who can laugh, who can face adversities not by they’re strength alone but with the help of others around them whether it be literal or metaphorical.

Omg agree 100% it's one of my favorite movies EVER yet it's so underrated, I've seen tons of movies but not one with this concept of brotherhood and what being a man means

I adored Brother Bear as a child...

"Old and underrated" ... you just made me feel old.

True

I love it too the way i love newt scamander's character in fantastic beasts. He's really kind and gentel

sounds like you and your sister already have an edge against the competition. R2-D2 is the true hero

I think now I totally would pick obi-wan, but yeah when I first saw Star Wars I liked R2-D2 the best as well lol. (And he can never be replaced as best droid)

I expected that answer lol

When I was a kid, my sister and I would pretend that we were R2 and 3PO lol Of course, since I was shorter, I was always R2 lol Good times :-P

LOL. Good one. But there is a certain idea, I think from Spielberg, that the whole story is being told from R2s perspective, so it kinda is his story and he is the hero.

Great to see some common sense instead of people crying about how this is "toxic masculinity".

@M T This dosen't make sense at all but im gonna go ahead and assume youre crying over something.

@M T common sense is to use just word "toxic" as it applies to both genders. But lately the term "toxic masculinity" is just thrown around as a buzz word in a sad attempt to offend people of a certain gender.

​@M T Fantasy stories and fairy tales ≠ Reality

@@NIHIL_EGO I'd also like to point out there were actually honorable knights because as it turns out our ancestors were not always the cartoonishly evil, curled mustache villains that they're made out to be. Sir William Wallace took measures to bring about the end of feudalism, one of which was establishing a national army. The Knights Templar gave up their inheritance and possessions to serve and protect others. One of their most famous battles was the Last Stand of Acre where 30 brother knights fought to the last man against an entire Saracen army to protect women and children. (look it up on Real Crusades History) I'm an American and I fully believe monarchy and serfdom were wrong and all mankind has equal value. That being said I firmly believe people were always people, good and bad, and if you do any reading or other investigating of the Middle Ages you will find there were plenty of honorable and incredibly courageous knights in real history. Knighthood is more than a title.

That's the basic principle of Miyagi Do.

@@jamiesmith4293 Personally I prefer STRIKE FIRST. STRIKE HARD. NO MERCY.

Caelum King but for what reason are you striking?

@@feartheghus They looked at me funny. duh what better a reason (lol).

@@caelumking1206 ayy that's how gamers talk

sigh.. that's because things that represent the male side are considered as positives but things that represent women are often taken as negative learning experiences or insults. For ex. a very common way to insult a person, a girl or boy is to tell them, "You do so and so like a girl." Women themselves use this insult because it is so deeply ingrained in them that their gender itself is a matter of shame.

@@lawfulhusbands sigh... and that is the reason why most of those "strong empowered" female characters have nothing female (or human) on them. Because people believe that femininity is bad and inferior.

Hmm, it depends, was it one of these "pretty and submissive" princesses? That could be the case.

I also saw that people find it much weirder for boys to watch "girl movies" than for girls to watch "boy movies"

@@lawfulhusbands I absolutely love both these observations on this particular comment. The internalised misogyny makes even some little girls think that feminity is bad and that she shouldn't be feminine if she wants to be equal to men

kimberley evans *does it pass the test though? yes here are “strong female characters” but they never really exchange dialogue. maybe a passing comment said in response to another passing comment in a group setting, but they never actually have a conversation. they’re just sorta there.*

Everything you say is true and I love you for it

Nothing more important than the group being multiracial. If you're white and don't have at least one black friend and one asian friend, you're doing something wrong with your life.

@kimberley , your absolutly right , the only thing is that this was filmed in 2013 and big hero 6 came out in 2014. I think if this man knew did his speach a year later he probibly took this movie in his ecxeption bar :)

@@yoavsigler4457 SAY THAT TO A RUSSIAN!

Chocolate Sugar-Lovage AGREED.

The more I learn about how people actually work, it’s like, we all are just nuts and crazy, and got issues, The idea of good is subjective and ego enhancing. People’s ego protects them because “oh I’m good”. But they still act as crazy

Can't agree more

True

Well, yeah, but the challenge lies in how to do that.

Re-cut Trailers by DD That movie is gold, definitely one of the best I’ve seen

But it includes strong bloody violence, therefore this moron would dislike it

Re-cut Trailers by DD yet the family all falls into very traditional roles.

I agree, but considering his son is maybe around 3? I dont think its the best idea to show him this movie since is has some sexual and bloody scenes.

M exactly. This Putz hates that stuff, even though it's not real, can't really hurt anybody (at least physically/directly) and nobody got actually hurt making the movie. Regardless, Star Wars is a million times more appropriate for young audiences

Also he's life.

A Koala with Shades Well besides the fact that Shrek Rapes little boys who pray for him and murders kids with onions.

Are we really debating a sick and twisted fan fiction?

+Elephant ... yes, exactly. That's not Shrek as portrayed in either the movie or the original book, that's just what some lunatic on 4chan came up with. You could have done it with any arbitrary character. It doesn't count.

The princess in Shrek was not there as eyecandy or as a helpless damsel in distress. Sure, she was litterally a princess trapped in a castle with a dragon, but she also showed that she could handle herself, like ***** pointed out. I don't think she was trapped there because women are helpless without men, she was trapped there because that was her role as a fairy tale character. All the characters in that series seemed to be stuck to their roles. The story is litterally about how the big bad ogre came to deviate from that role.

Alicia Koh I did as well that's why I clicked on this video

Alicia Koh I saw brave

same very good movie

I feel like you need to produce some evidence to support this fact.

Maeve: Sentinal wanted more evidence, he got them.

Yeah I liked Kung Fu Panda. Poor guy grew up in a weird family...

This guy is a dumb putz who completely misunderstands these movies. He doesn't mind female power fantasies but he claims male power fantasies are considered to teach bad manhood. Hypocrisy, much?

​@@carlosalmonacid8958 The issue is that in movies femininity is always dissociated from characters of strength/power by female heroines, whenever theres a strong female heroin they take are always painted in a masculine way. He's not saying theres anything bad about having powerful masculine figures, theres just a lack of other themes in them often.

@@user-gf5xw2sd6d Here some quotes from famous male pacifists on the concept of Violence and how it may sometimes be necessary: _""Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword"_-Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:17), _"I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor"_-Mahatma Gandhi (The Doctrine Of The Sword), _"I am not only a pacifist but a militant pacifist. I am willing to fight for peace"_ - Albert Einstein, _"Better to risk using violence a thousand times than have an entire race emasculated"_-Mahatma Gandhi

@@carlosalmonacid8958 First off I am not religious so the bible quotes have zero meaning to me, secondly Gandhi and Einstein are talking about literal WAR, not childrens morals. Yes, I agree with you there are situations where violence is needed, however the first things children should learn is how to be compassionate, a problem solver, have empathy, how to treat people. Not solely violence as a response to everything especially in times where the majority of women experience harrasment whether sexual or physical from men.

I always thought she was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be. She always made it seem like the boys were stupid and only she had it together. She kinda had to one-up the boys and only hung around because "without me, who knows where they'll up!"

@@rosietyler Thats okay, people nay have different opinion :)

@@rosietyler that's the movies Hermione

@@pandachan3223 yeah, but I didn't get into the books so the movie one was all I knew

@@rosietyler most potter heads hate the fact that they made her like this in the movies, in the books she didnt had all the answers, werent perfect all the time and not aways was likeble but aways apologized and maded up for her mistakes, she was so so so close to Harry and only acted superior to Ron because he was really mean to her

Karn Phutanate id love to have a film that teaches children machiavellian ideals.

I think How To Train Your Dragon is a good example of that. The protagonist, Hiccup, is more of a problem solver than a fighter. It's really refreshing.

Jazz Ford Good point. It is. It was a damn good movie too. It didn't stoop to the lowest common denominator and instead made it enjoyable for parents as well.

It really was a great movie :)

Jazz Ford I love how to train your dragon even though my inner nerd is raging because most of the "dragons" in that movie are wyverns

Not according to the Feminists, because he gets the girl at the end of the film. And because he has to save her from two would-be rapists, and blah blah blah. Point is... Spider-Man is a Superhero. Superheroes are notoriously a "boys thing"- obviously, I would agree that the Superhero genre isn't gender specific. But more boys than girls tend to watch things like that.

I'm a feminist. Spider-Man was always my role model and still is.

wolfmatic Spiderman and The flash I look up to and you're right.

Because almost all media portrays it as one way: Men saving women. It is very rare to see the other way around, which is why it's upsetting. It is exactly as you said. Men saving women isn't a problem. Women saving men is totally fine too! The problem is the fact that social norms always portray it as men's role to specifically protect women. You may say that Spiderman is a superhero and is the most capable character in the movie to save the woman. This begs the question: Why make the superhero male in the first place then? While female superheroes do exist in higher numbers now, I don't think anyone can argue that comic book heroes were a medium that specifically targeted males. Your points are logical and valid, but they fail to see past the curtain that is media. *Content creators create media with a specific audience in mind as well as their own set of values and beliefs (media is not created in a vacuum)*. I think this is the main problem with getting the point across to other people is that the issue is not portrayed in an industry sense. They have full control of everything within the medium including storyline and character design. They get to decide who gets to be a hero and who gets to be a victim. They get to decide which character gets the most airtime. *Again, men saving women isn't a problem and neither should be women saving men. The problem is that the majority of content creators (eg. movie makers and game makers), portray the role of hero (male) and victim (female) as binary.* From my understanding, this has been slowly changing over the recent years, but these stereotypes are still fairly prominent. Also food for thought about your last comment: "They should be happy that the media is teaching boys to look out for them" What if you turned it to something like: "Men should be happy that media is teaching girls to be reliant on their man" (eg. all the old princess movies) Do you see something wrong with these implications? Men need to look after their women? Women are weak and must rely on their man? It also makes for extremely boring storytelling as you can often tell from miles away what is going to happen because these Hero's Journey stories are so, so, so common.

Superheroes don't just save women. They save men aswell. And female superheroes are quite common now.

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Agree. That's one of my fav lines from deeper

Dipper was one of my favorites! I saw myself in him (even tho I'm a girl) because of how insecure he feels but also his empathy towards other characters in the show. I also liked that he grew and learned to like himself and not be let down by adversity.

Everything you said is good. Ashitaka is literally one of my favourite studio Ghibli characters (but let’s be honest, everyone loves totoro)

@@harriett9810 Who doesn't love Totoro? :D It's impossible for me to choose a favorite Studio Ghibli character, but I gotta say Ashitaka is up there.

This is the case for women, I'm a girl. Both men and women can dientify to many great male characters, but (although the numbers are rising) there are very little female characters we can relate to. The problem isn't really the message the movies send to women, it's the message they send to men.

asd fgh I look up to them too, but I don’t want to look up to them, I want to be able to relate to them, imagine myself as them, want to be like them. But it rarely happens, if it has ever happened. However if that’s what you mean, sorry for misinterpreting.

Wait thats ilegal

@@hentaislayer9642 I'm a boy and I, actually, identify me much more with girl characters than boy ones. It's kind strange, but I, sincerily, don't remember a boy character that I identify with.

I'm a guy and Samus, the female protagonist of the Metroid series, is one of my favorite characters of all time. She's an independent, no-nonsense woman with a strong sense of justice. She has compassion for the downtrodden because she herself has experienced great and tragic loss. And in a galaxy full of corruption and deceit, she holds fast to her convictions, even if that means rebelling against a corrupt government (in Metroid Fusion, she discovered that the Galactic Federation was creating and experimenting with weapons of mass destruction in the form of the series' titular Metroids. Not only that, but that they were attempting to weaponize a creature referred to as "X," a parasite so dangerous that it could destroy every civilization in the galaxy. As if that wasn't bad enough, these things escaped captivity onboard the space station orbiting the planet from which they acquired the specimens and killed all of the scientists on board. Even worse was the fact that the GF hired Samus, who had great trust and respect for them, to clean up their mess in an effort to cover everything up. Samus was understandably upset by this betrayal and the immoral actions of the GF that had led up to it and so set the station on a course to impact the planet below, destroying the uncontrollable bio-weapons aboard along with all the relevant data concerning their creation. By doing this, Samus made herself a criminal in the eyes of the GF to save everyone in the galaxy who would be helpless against the X). As an American, I heavily identify with this.

YES EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Congratulations, you have more intelligence than 98% of humans that ever lived on this planet.

TEA

sure, but I think his point was about one specific issue, because, in his perspective, a lot of movies just teaches mans to fight alone to get a nice girl as reward and period.

Daniel Correia Yes - but in the movie she kills the witch completely by accident, tossing the water at her friend the Scarecrow who’s been set on fire by the witch. Undoubtably a heroic act, but also one motivated primarily by care for her friends.

Two witches baby!

and she felt bad about it.

Daniel Correia 🤣

She killed her by accident! She was trying to put out the fire on the scare crows arm and hit her also.

Even better when you look at Princess Mononoke. Still today one of the most advanced movie societies.

Studio Ghibli in general is brilliant for many reasons

Too bad I don't watch star wars

It's what a normal mind unadulterated with hate-speech would think. The political brainwash is what tinted the windows to our soul.

That's what I'm thinking. I believe it's kinda sick to like a character from some video game movie or book, only for their gender or sexuality. It kinda makes me mad to see stuff like that.

Totally agree! Such a balanced comment.

Gender and sexuality was NEVER and is NEVER a requirement for me to like a character. I hated, with a passion, that "girls like princesses" and ideas like that. I still dislike the idea that people buy their kids, friends, themselves, books just because the main character is the same gender as the reader. Find a book with an interesting story and interesting characters! Why limit yourself by only looking for characters that are like you? You can learn so much from the differences...

Yes I fully agree with this statement. My parents taught me that it’s just a movie. Not real life. Which I think has put me at a disadvantage as it seems that people think it’s ok to act the way they see people in movies act. It’s rather disturbing to me.

@@Blankfbuser if people were behaving like in star wars I guarantee we would see less sick society. It's mostly bad sitcoms they replicate. And brazilian dramas.

@@jakubrogacz6829 You're correct about this. Only problem would be the father-son dynamic in society. A lot men, and young boys will be missing their hands.

@@johnnylow3352 Well but we'll get awesome cybernetics one, learn to choke on distance and have a glowing swords ;)

@RedPill Universe in my experience? all parents think of the children in a divorce. Both my Mother and Aunt waited until all of us kids grew up and left home before divorcing thier husbands.... I Wish i could go back in time and tell them NOT TO DO THIS! Instead of them divorcing and finding a better man, so that i could grow up with a loving Father.. i grew up with a Jackass who to this day... 5 years after his death... i still hate his guts, at my own fathers funeral i was the only one there with a smirk on my face.

hahahaha yeah

In all seriousness, he is. He agrees to help her to get something from her, but he ends up giving his life for her freedom. The best part of this movie for me wasn't the romance, although I thought it was executed extremely well. I loved how they got to know each other and that Rapunzel got to experience freedom instead of getting married right away. The best part was seeing two people learn who they want to be and what they want in life by listening to a different perspective. I was pleasantly surprised to see them talk about their pasts, dreams, hopes, fears, interests, etc. and challenge the other's ideas throughout the film. Once he started to care about her, then he put her happiness and well being first. He wanted her to be happy and fulfill her dreams. She deserved a far better fate than to be chained up and dragged around by her "Mother" as a source of youth for the rest of her life.

Yooooo! True so true

YES!

YES. I would also point out Kristoff from Frozen. His relationship with Anna isnt about him saving her, but also is not about her saving him. They cooperate. They take care of each other. He understand the situation they are in and he trusts in her, even when he is "left behind" in Frozen 2, he doesnt get mad cause he knows she is doing what she has to do.

Wow, well said.

It's not even on Netflix, I've tried over and over. I just bought the DVD finally.

Same.

This is the ultimate form of betrayal.

Yeah such a clickbait

He should show his kids some moe shows like Is the Order a Rabbit

Not Princess Mononoke ? You forgot to put that one in your list, it was my favorite as child (still is actually). To me it seemes like the perfect movie to show to kid: -The hero is not trying to defeat a vilan he's trying to prevent war -There's no actual vilan, just people with oposite goal -It present us with three strong femal caracter (San, Eboshi and Molo) -It has an ecologist moral aswell as an pasifist one -It's great cinema

Princess Mononoke is a great movie (my favorite, in fact), but I don't know how suitable it is for children. It has a lot of subtleties and nuances to it that I don't think will be picked up by most kids. I recall seeing it for the first time when I was 12 or 13, and I certainly didn't appreciate it then.

Ew, you want to be one THOSE parents, a former (or current) weaboo imprinting only your likes and interests upon your children. Listen, I love Miyazaki's films, but there is nothing wrong with Disney movies. If your children start believing that they're oppressed or that boys are big mean jerks, the problem is you as the parent, relying on movies to raise your children. My brother watched all the Disney movies with me when we were little, and he's about as masculine and respecting of women as they come. You know why? Because my parents relied on their parenting skills and little talks with him (and me) as he grew instead of relying on animated movies to be his parents. And I never grew up thinking that boys were mean jerks who were only ever villains, and never though that I HAD to be a pretty, ultra-feminine princess (although I liked to pretend I was and am still feminine). My parents and playing with other children and going to school taught me to be stronger and how to work with others as a team. I turned out fine and am on a clear route to joining the Intelligence community. Also, learning takes place throughout an entire lifetime; not only when children are small.

Even if it's Disney, you can add Mulan to that list

Do you honestly believe most (and esp modern) Disney flicks don't touch upon the themes described in your comment? If you don't want to show your kid Snow White or Cinderella, i can understand- they were fair for their respective times but wouldn't really count as good Disney flicks today. But what about the films of the Disney Renaissance, like Beauty and Beast, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas, or Mulan? all Disney flicks with fleshed out female leads and fleshed out stories. What about the more modern ones, such as the Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Brave, or Frozen? Just a thought.

That's because this guy is talking out of his bum. Clearly he didn't even see the entire trilogy.

Thank god her haircut was never taken on by a whole generation!

FUCKING THANK YOU IM SICK OF THESE PEOPLE WHOVE ONLY SEEN A NEW HOPE ONCE AND FORCE THEIR VIEWS ON HER STORY

I think what he meant, was that she wasn't given the due that she deserved. That she did all that and yet... you know. Inuniverse. Correct me if I'm wrong it's been a long time since I saw or read it.

@@rizaleiaanalviel1350 Getting to give out the awards is (almost) as much of a honour as getting an award IMHO

Fortunately, this Moron eventually apologized on his blog.

+Aussie Queen I never thought that, but I used to create stories in which I was a powerfull princess rescuing "a boy in distress". And when playing I was always Vegeta... Guess I always had faith that he would eventually beat Goku.

that's normal: every human being is the main character of his/her story :p

Of course, but what we are noticing here are the themes of such plays and daydreams. Other kids may be more interested in social game plays, like catch or sports, other may be more interested in play house. What did you used to play when you were a child?

+H Angeli what you gonna help vegeta an arrogant jerk? No wonder the world is sensed to be unfair you ought to help guys like kulin

Did you never watch Disney as a child? Most main characters there are female. Then there are movies like Harry Potter for example, where Hermione is one of the most beloved characters. It's really not that hard to find movies with a female protagonist or main character.

The problem is, if you want to make a 2 hour movie, you can only include one "round" character (a character with depth and personality) and the rest got to be "flat" (no deep personality). It is very common for literature. There is simply not enough movie time to make many "round" characters.

Mmmmm watch Atlantis, it has many round characters in a short movie time

Isn't the majority of Pixar characters goofy or stupid?

I love this comment, Marc Brew.

Same old mansplaining.

I like that movie for giving a visual representation of the human psyche and what could possibly be going on in there. This movie made me laugh, cry, and feel a whole range of eotions that every human feels (other animals too, and yes we are animals).

@@chocolatesugar-lovage9678 yes, i cried so hard at the scene where bin bong left, i was sobbing like a crazy haha

@Aurora Nightingale bing bong bing bong

The most badass characters of all time regardless of gender tends to be either a swordsman or an archer, and there’s really badass fighters that aren’t swordsmen and archers unless it’s from anime/manga and Japanese video games which SJWS despite.

And then after nearly 13 minutes was bummed her name never came up.

Same

same :(

Heard "Patriarchy" and "Bechdel Test" - Immediately stopped wathing

Games are slowly changing this single-minded way of thinking... since movies are so slow at that.

The Fast and The Furious

X-men my G

+Tardisman Well, that would be a good example if the number of women was anywhere near the number men.

could you tell me the titles of the games that change this way of thinking? (just curiosity, i like games that have important femme characters) Cheers.

That's what I've been saying but people don't understand

ChoirGuy 48 Huh, never thought of it that way. That’s really good.

It doesn’t matter in the least if Leia is meant to be a rebel leader, if she spends most of the first film in captivity and needs to be rescued. And he’s not even talking about the prequels.

Alex Bennet But she never cracks under capture, remaining cool and defiant as Tarkin and Vader attempt to interrogate her, the message she sent Obi-Wan wasn't about rescuing her but about helping the rebel alliance and once she is rescued, she is shown to be a snarky and skilful leader with a level of confidence that Luke and Han wish they had. This dumbass takes everything completely out of context.

@@alexbennet4195 I know he doesn't talk about the prequels. I was just using Star Wars to say that this guy needed to do more research before he was going to use it as an example in his TedTalk. He couldn't have used the prequels anyways because the characters in them go against the arguments he was trying to make.

Stories are powerful. You become affected, no matter how much you try not to be (especially if you are a child). It might be next to nothing and temporary, but still affected.

@@gammarayneutrino8413 No one ever said that people aren't _affected_ by movies. What they said was, any person in control of their faculties can understand that fiction and reality are *_two different things._* Do you believe in magical, laser-sword wielding space monks?

@Aurora Nightingale That's the thing, though: these knuckleheads are saying that you _aren't_ conscious of your own reality.

Funny because, my ancestor teach children via stories (mostly fables) and they raised a bunched of head strong people man or woman fighting for the freedom of their country from the western.

very insightful of you

I am a woman and I don't really care about the gender of the characters.

I am a woman so I like seeing empowered female characters which are slowly becoming more common in media

very brave of you to come out

General Rommel Oh boo boo you wish

Aw I love this

@David DotExe if the majority of people does that like you said , we wouldn't have feminism or toxic masculinity , so no , the Majority of people focus on Men vs Women (in terms on how they should behave) , so not sure what was your point there.

Being a good person is always a great thing to learn. Your first statement is very true - I believe people should be brought up in a similar way regardless of their gender. However, to imply everyone shares this mentality or that the 'playing field', as it were, is equal, is just incorrect. Boys and girls should be taught that an inequality exists (universally) between men and women, and that's wrong and /should/ be rectified.

@David DotExe If that were the case, people wouldn't be fighting against gender neutral ideas the way that they are.

@David DotExe it's not about an agenda. Why are people stuck on folks having an agenda? It's not that they're thinking "I will enforce gender roles! " It's the times when someone tells a little boy that he shouldn't play with baby dolls, even though he might be a dad one day. It's telling a little girl that she shouldn't play in the dirt. It's getting mad if your boy wants a pink shirt. It's not letting a boy watch Shimmer Shine or Disney princess movies. Random stuff like that.

@Breakdown Benjamin 1. Made up ideas especially stories teaches abstract ideas which is not good for the simple mind of a child, everything is up to the interpretation of who is delivering the information w/c usually results to something similar to propaganda. Experience teaches proven & tested ideas on which works & w/c doesn't. Example: My father taught me that my mother could handle our finances better that's why she's the one doing it, rather than she's handling the finances because she's a woman & these stories show how great women are with being a leader & leaders are supposed to be good with money. 2."Regardless of gender" works if you teach it to a child. My father taught it to me & I have never had an issue with my female bosses or any female authority ever. Even now my wife would call me more of a feminist rather than others who call themselves such. If you find sexism predominant, it's really because of parents teaching kids one gender is better than the other. Baby boomers teaching boys becoming the alpha & millenials teaching girls the same.

(I hope you don't read this as me being ugly towards you -- that's truly not my intention.) You're missing a detail here that's vital to understanding what Colin is saying. He's not advocating for boys to give up their leadership roles. Actually, he says that he wishes BOTH of his children recognized the leadership qualities in Obi-Wan and Glinda, because those are traits he wants them to admire. He also says that he wants his son to see examples of strong women and want to be "on their team." And MAYBE (

@@russellbuzarang6390 "I'm simply saying parents should not use fictional media to teach kids anything because then all fictional media is subject for this deep analysis of right & wrong." Where we differ, then, is that I think that would be a good thing. I think we SHOULD have those conversations with ourselves about the content we consume, and see if the values it promotes are ones that we want to associate ourselves with.

Nailed it

sameeee

As a mixed Native American and white person married to a white man I have a hard time with Pocahontas. It is not historically accurate at all and and completely ignores the fact that neither side was blameless in their conflict. Yes, colonialism was horrific to the Native Americans but the Natives also did horrible things to settlers after signing treaties.

wijcik wijcik Nothing to do with the video or comment but okay.. It’s an animated Disney movie so none of them are historically accurate. I think it did a good job showing growth on both sides, Poca’s father most of all as he made the decision that he would not start the violence. John Smith undergoes a similar transformation and finds that love and understanding for all people should trump violence. It shows that white men came onto THEIR land and abused their higher forms of technology. That message was important and the story was altered for young audiences, but it did not treat the subject lightly or ignore the historical implications and effects of European settlement. Just my view.

@@cs-zr9xy I respect your view, but overall I find that the movie used historic people in historically inaccurate ways. According to scholars, John Smith's almost execution was probably made up by Smith to some extent. My biggest problem with the movie is that it was a story that was marketed as a Native American story but it turned out to be a story about Natives from White people. This is not what representation should look like. I think I misunderstood your statement that it "is a great, deep movie for all kids". As a mixed race person it was not a great movie for me, nor is it great for many Native kids. I think you were meaning that it has something to offer both boys and girls. That I totally agree with. I'm glad you can enjoy it. I have never wanted to like a movie but just couldn't more than this one.

The actual pocahontas was a child and forced to leave with older white man.....

@@melusine826 I agree that they shouldn’t have used real names. Unfortunately the world wasn’t as hyper sensitive to these things when the movie was made and that aspect ultimately did not age well

it has a lot to do with society and context. in the modern day that is the goal of feminism. it's a man hating, man belittling, matriarch ruling conquest. So when someone steps up and simply states that we should be teaching our kids to help others, people are already on the defense because of what the current trend is.

He never said we should work together, he said we should raise boys on a picture perfect description of old school chivalry (a man's role is to protect the damsels from the bad men) and call it 'a new definition of manhood.'

You: "The only message I got from this speech is that both genders should be raised to value coorperation, knowledge, and leadership triats while striving to help empower others. How did this devolve to women stealing men's power, or men being lesser beings?" Him: "A real *man* is someone who trusts his sisters and respects them, and wants to be on their team and stands up against the real bad guys, who are the *men* who abuse the *women* "

Elly Green, thank you - and Mulan being defined as such too ;)

There is no dark side of the moon. There is a FAR side of the moon.

@@Wirmish Shut up nerd!

@@krem9363 Ok boomer

You’ve picked the main film that depicts a female being better than a man!

She still won with violence. Everyone's happy because the evil was taken out. Everyone's celebrating a hapless assassin

Throwing water on someone is violence? The witch was literally trying to kill her. She threw water on the witch in basic self defense. Besides, it was a dream, meaning it was pretty much all symbolism anyways.

Sierra Schauerhamer, not even selfdefense, just an accident, if the Witch-trials taught us anything it is witches are water proof! But seriously, there was no way she could suspect water would kill the witch.

Actually, the first is manslaughter

@@sierradaun5389 if water affects you like acid then it is most definitely violent.

and crushes another with a house.

all the work of glinda the "good witch".

Agate dragoon Also the part where Luke defeats Vader by appealing to his humanity. And never gets a girl in the end, just a medal

And the part where the scarecrow had a freaking GUN

Dorothy was attempting to save Elphaba, who had caught fire

If you're not South African, you won't understand.

Toe to toe with Vader? haha what have you been smoking my guy

@@Gyvulys episode iv a new hope also known as the OG Star Wars. She stares him straight in the eye and is close enough he could lift off the ground by her neck. Which is what he did to the guy he interrogated upon entering her ship. Perhaps you'll remember her quote, "Darth Vader. Only you would be so bold."

@@chrisleffler2435 And that's standing "toe to toe" with him? lol she was a prisoner. The only reason she wasn't getting the same treatment as the other guy, is because she was useful to Vader alive.

@@Gyvulys That would be the definition of toe to toe. Does she behave like a prisoner? Does she cower? Beg for mercy? He also had back up, all those stormtroopers. She could've been snuffed out 100 different ways. Does Leia look weak and useless? She's clearly up a creek without a paddle, but she doesn't give up. This doesn't look like a misogynistic portrayal of a weak woman to me. Courage in the face of overwhelming adversity is a positive character trait in my book. If more women today had this level of courage in their convictions, our society wouldn't be in the sad state it is in today.

@@chrisleffler2435 She was completely at Vader's mercy. And her "courage" was nothing more than stupidity, that realistically could have gotten her killed (this was a family movie tho). She could not have taken down those stormtroopers. And Vader didn't need any of them to deal with her. She was but a bug under his feet.

If you are talking about the protagonist of spirited away, then her interactions and relationships with the people in the movie actually do require her to be female.

@@lilchristuten7568 ikr, just look at her interaction with Haku and the other cleaning ladies, definitely her being a girl is important to the plot.

KateMiles44 try steven universe! It does this! Star versus the forces of evil also kind of does but they really do act their age. I would also recommend branching out to anime, a lot do this very well. If they're a bit older (because this one has war themes and can get kind of dark at times), a great one to watch is Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. One anime that has a gentle but strongs male protag is Natsume Yuujinchou, 10/10 would recommend

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Out of all the shows you listed, I’ve only watched Steven Universe. The best thing about it’s portrayal of ‘manhood’, in my opinion, are Steven’s responses to emotional stress. He only ever has entirely human responses to all the bad things that happen. Also, there are only 8 other male characters, and only 2 of them seem like idiots - but that’s not even due to their gender, Mayor Dewey and Renaldo would probably be the same either way. It’s also great for teens too, I’m 16, watched the whole thing in a month, and I’d definitely recommend it. It can be a bit scary at some places for kids tho.

Don't listen to these snakes! Steven Universe is lesbian, PC propaganda. Steer well clear of it if you love your children to be free thinkers.

Bryan Merrill ???? Connie ans Steven are kids, who are in love and a adults in love is what squicks u out???? Of course it tries its best to be pc, it's a kids show that teaches how to love and respect others??

NahanquasarAsi lol

And it has nothing to do with the title or his son then, clickbait.

did you guys really watch the video. All he did was talk about his two kids and what they, and other kids might garner from these movies. Shallow minds can't understand things without everything spelled out for them and constant redundancy. Maybe if the speaker had been redudant and needlessly mentions his kids over and over you're have gotten what everyone else did.

No tarshil2020, this was virtue signalling to the the max. The very fact that this man thinks that Star Wars is merely a movie about a guy going out and shooting bad guys is, at the very least, frustrating. That's leaving out the fact that he only described A New Hope, cutting out 2/3's of the whole story, and Luke's character development. He was basically saying that the fact that most movies having a male protagonist is a bad thing. There are tons of flaws with his argument here, right down to how he described The Wizard of Oz as a story with more depth and moral lessons than Star Wars. It's asinine and shows that he has no idea how to write a good story or character. From what he's saying, he is suggesting that most of these characters, Mike, Sully, Woody, Buzz, Luke Skywalker, would be better simply by being female. It would appear that he doesn't like these "war movies" simply because the depict violence as a character's means of progression through the plot, and fair enough you can make a decent story with a meaningful moral without violent conflict, but I sincerely doubt his son would be as interested in those types of movies, that's just not what boys and men are into. And I guarantee that this guy would say how that fact is a bad thing, thus pointing out the fact that his only purpose for this talk is to try to emasculate men. And the mere fact that he thinks that the virtuous Luke Skywalker (the ones for the original trilogy, not this crappy, depraved old Luke from the newer movies), who put his life on the line to save an entire galaxy from an oppressive totalitarian empire, isn't an embodiment of moral virtue is, frankly, quite preposterous.

Thank you! I saw her character as being heroic in the face of overwhelming odds.

My problem with this is, it took me a couple times rewatching the movies before I actually understood what Leia's role was in the rebellion, because besides a few exposition dumps, the majority of what Leia did was call for help and get saved by the men. Even when she fights back against her captors, she usually isn't trying very hard until the guys are there to help. Maybe it's a strategy to wait til they can make a distraction, but what if they never came? Would she have found a way out on her own? I'm not sure. I really wish they had explored her potential as a Jedi more. How come Luke was the only one to get training when it's explicitly stated that Leia had potential too? Why was it Lukes job to kill Darth Vader? Isn't he just as much Leia's father as Lukes? As far as female protagonists go, Leia is pretty good, but I would never hold her up as a great example of how to represent women in movies.

***** She could've done something. I know if I was captured and had no evidence that anyone was coming after me, I certainly wouldn't be waiting around. If Luke were in the same position as Leia (probably with more clothes on too) I can tell you he wouldn't have had to wait. Also that doesn't answer my question of why Leia never considered becoming a Jedi. It's not uncommon for there to be female Jedi so there was not very much reason for her not to be. At most, they said that if Luke failed, then Leia would fill his role. In other words, she'd have to go clean up his mess, instead of being the first choice.

RainAngel111 Again though, what could you have done? It's frikkin' space-jail. In a titanic planet destroying weapons-station crewed almost entirely by soldiers. You are wearing noblewoman's robes and weigh 150 lbs soaking wet. Here's the thing, first of all, Leia was wearing plenty of clothes for all but one scene. She wasn't being rescued, she was assassinating a high-priority target. Though you might see it as in bad taste, both literature and real life commonly have concubines assassinating their "owners" because they're the easiest people to get close enough. Second, George Lucas. George Lucas, George Lucas, George Lucas. He had no idea at all when producing the fuzzy outline of his story that Leia was to be Luke's sister until a focus group decided they'd rather ship her and the nerf-herder together. This was also before "medichlorians" (or however it's spelt) so there was no reason to suspect Leia was force-sensitive because there were no scanners. It was assumed to be a hereditary trait at that point. They were also Jedi _Knights._ Regardless of whatever politics you want to bring into it, knights were male. It was entirely likely that the hierarchy of the (then unnamed) Jedi council was assumed to disallow females for religious or traditional reasoning. It's a story, no reason to get mad at imaginary inequality. Lastly, if old George's vision (largely ripped from Frank Herbert's Dune novels anyway) had Luke both be in the lead role and being the one who won in the end, what's wrong with that? There's no reason to force the man to use a non-traditional narrative, (chosen one fails, unassuming friend rises to the challenge) *_especially_* when that would likely not have done as well at the box-office at the time. StarWars is much beloved by average people because it's a sci-fi that you don't have to think too hard about.

I said the same thing outloud! Like, dude.. You literally just said popular media portrays all of these things! Of course it has an impact on our children *facepalming eyeroll*

If he truly believed that kid movies have nothing to do with sexual assaults, then he would’ve said nothing at all. But he did, which proves he’s a liar.

She is already more knowledgeable than her father on both movies.

Gorinich Serpant "support cast" **I need healing**

Gorinich Serpant YES! Role models have nothing to do with gender or ethnicity! Kids don't view the world like that, adults do.

He didn't talk about Spirited Away because Chihiro is actually a feminine hero. American media doesn't really value that concept because for some reason, masculinity has been massively overvalued. The primary problem with feminism (apart from the socal-constructionist, neo-Marxist, man-hating aspect) is that it paradoxically devalues femininity. Feminism is entirely consumed with elevating females who exhibit masculine characteristics and devaluing masculine characteristics in men. The inherent value of femininity, which they should be advocating for, is completely overlooked. It's one of the greatest indicators that feminism is actually a corrupt movement whose goals are self-serving rather than noble. Spirited Away as well an many other Hayao Miyazaki movies should be their models. Not Frozen. Frozen is certainly not pro feminine. It is about how masculinity in women can replace masculinity in men. Part of the reason that I hate feminism is because I actually think femininity is inherently valuable (of course, I prefer femininity to be present in women and rather dislike it in men but that's another argument).

I liked your reply dude

That’s a good movie

@@Batosai11489 Yeah, took me 25-ish years to get that lightbulb moment and get off the "girl characters who don't fight and win that way are weak and regressive and time to hate on them!!" train. Brave had a big part in that. Feminism got society out of the "a woman's place" box and there's still more to do, BUT it was mostly about valuing masculine traits/roles and hating on feminine ones. Time for society to grow into valuing both equally and valuing both women AND men being their own mix of the two. E.x, boys are still expected to shun everything girly. Guys being portrayed as hopeless buffoons on kids, making meals, cleaning not fighting, etc, or else they're gonna be the butt of a joke or questioned/mocked/looked down on until they MAN UP. Unless they're gay, then it's maybe okay. True gender equality like this is /supposed/ to be a plank for the current mainstream feminist movement, but the name and rep sound so women-only and has had a lot of poison and stupidity both from within and poured onto it from outside. On Frozen, you gave me some food for thought! I see it even more now as valuing femininity: Anna's approach and sucessful fix was to use warmth, talking, and resolving their emotions. Not fighting, except when forced to deal with Elsa's more dangerous defenses.

have you watched the Cracked.com video ‘“Stupid” movies that are surprisingly progressive’? It discusses the way feminism is explored in films - but tv shows as well - that are generally considered ‘un-feminist’. It’s extremely interesting asks it highlights the ways that these movies and tv shows explore the idea of various types of women, not just a singular idea of femininity

Strength of a women is not being physical strong, like a warrior, but being caring just like a mother, grandma and all of the women we love. Of course women can be physically strong, but it's not their field.

I don't think whether it's her field or it's not her field. Just because you're born into a certain body doesn't mean you have to act like what's expected of you. Also, women who ARE strong don't live according to society's expectations. And being strong isn't about showing off your muscles/body. Being strong is a statement in itself. And not all women want kids. I do, when I grow up to be in my early or late thirties. But as for my main goal, it's ONLY my career, in my early 20s or even earlier. And, MY PARENTS HAVE SAID SO, ASKED SO, AND IMPOSED SO, INCLUDING MY FATHER.

@@EddieJrDigiarts Men are far more hardwired to think rationaly, whereas women are hardwired to think empathicly.

@@EddieJrDigiarts I understand. Thanks. :-)

@@nigredoooalgown6245 yeah, *most* of them... But *some* are not..cuz not everyone is made the same way. I mean I'm talking about those guys and gals who don't fit into the supposed masculine or feminine category...

oh, that movie is so sweet! Love it! Lord of the Rings doesn't pass the test either, but nobody can deny that it's a great series (that quite accuratly describes how passive women are if you pick a medieval setting, so...). What is concerning is the lack of balance I guess? That for every movie that fails this test there isn't one that would pass it. But all in all it really should come down more to quality, really. Because regardless of gender, anyone (kids included) would identify more with a wellwritten character in an interesting story...

Superman

D Harris *but does it pass the test?*

bUt DoEs It PaSs ThE tEsT?

Konradas Miloševičius *no, it doesn’t.*

Yeah, steven is a breath of fresh air as a charecter. Not to mention, he is one of the nicest kids in fiction.

+Red Pheonix +

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I will be teaching my children with the works of Rebecca Sugar

I was thinking about Steven Universe all through this ahah

TED talks aren't known for actual useful information.

if you like that watch "The girl who leapt through time" is an amazing film :)

yes!!! Loved it!

omggggg that was the anime that stemmed my love for anime!

Filipe de Lima Santos the only reason I clicked on this video 😅😂

Just like Sailor Moon. I always liked Jupiter and Mars most, because I'm not that much of a feminine girl myself. But there is one for everyone. Smart, salty, silly girly, strong.

@@Fissa4 and the nice thing about Jupiter: she's strong and sometimes even stubborn but she loves baking, gardening and still is pictured as a strong, intelligent and independent young woman.

@@luiskarediska exactly. And that's what role models should be like. Not just that one thing. But a complex human being just like everyone is. Aggressive but sensitive and loyal Silly but warm-hearted and dedicated and LOVES food Strong but responsible and caring Smart but peace-loving and sensible

Gloomy Pen they also over sexualize

I'm pretty sure nearly every anime dose a better job than many western movies or TV series. I mean even harem anime have often more character development then a Disney movie.

And is that bad somehow?

@lol idek Or rather, it shows that a man needs to earn his right to be with the woman? That he needs to grow up and defeat his opponents before that?

@lol idek I mean, most of those stories are literally about "hero journey". So it is true. But then again, you people just like to twist everything so you could be offended...

4GamersNetwork same tho

The bechdel test is not a measurement of quality, feminist content or good gender roles, it is simply a measurement of female presence. Which as evidence of the Bechdel test is really out of balance with male representation.

***** I love how you know that hahahahaa

There are quite a few movies that pass Bechdel test. One is Notes on a Scandal featuring Cate Blanchett and Judi Dench. That movie explores the intricacies of the mind. The actresses were brilliant. A more recent movie is Gone Girl. An excellent portrayal of a sociopath. Not all movies that pass the Bechdel Test are crap. I can think of plenty of movies that don't pass the Bechdel Test that don't have any substance. ;)

Most anime is still too violent for this big dummy

It's not for everyone

Oh yeah, portraying tiny girls beat down men 10x their size is soo realistic, yeah? Anime is as far as it can get from reality.

+Jay Writer What if it's in a setting, such as a men's prison, in which they logicically would be no women? Like Shawshank Redemption Or how about the military, especially historical ones? How about movies that are intended to feel isolated, and thus contain only a few main characters, with any others talking exclusively about those characters? Or what if everyone is always talking about the main character, who happens to be male? What if it's specifically about being the only woman in a certain place? Like the first women being allowed into university. Mulan, for example, is all about how a woman perceives masculinity, but only arguably passes (if the conversations about marriage don't count as about a man). If you cut those out, would it provide any less female representation? What if it has minimal or no dialogue? Granted, this more applies to arthouse movies than Hollywood, but still. Yes, there are easy ways to shoehorn in a pass, but they don't add anything. How would two women talking about their weapons provide any real representation? Many argue it wouldn't, and add the "they must be named" rule to the Bechdel test, because doing that is really adding noting just for the sake of passing. Of course, this isn't taken super literally. An important character, who's name is never revealed on purpose would be counted, whereas background characters who's names were awkwardly blurted out to get around this wouldn't. the point is, to pass this test you'd have to put women in a bunch of positions where they don't belong, either because it doesn't make sense for females to be present, or because it doesn't make sense for that specific added character to be there. Either that, or add nothing, confuse the more astute viewers who'll think it means something, and take credit for passing whilst entirely missing the point. In fact, female characters will suffer, as a group, as they only exist to check a box. They'll be tokens, not characters. So yes, it is easy to pass. Meaningfully, not so much. Also, plenty of media aimed at women doesn't pass the reverse Bechdel test (that's just replacing women with men in the test). And plenty of romcoms don't pass either. In the end, a movie is no better for passing this test, and no worse for failing, and the same is true if you reverse the genders. Forcing, or pressuring, creators into compromising their artistic vision only makes things worse, and doesn't add anything.and often takes away. Creators should be putting in female characters because they want to, not because they have to. And when they do, why is only one not enough? Some people define themselves by their actions.

+Jay Writer About 20 percent of the worlds population is Muslim. I now demand at least 20 percent of all characters in movies be Muslim, no exceptions.

+mujahidhancsar Sure. No one's stopping you.

If star wars is a reflection of our society, it makes sense that there are only two women and one is only there because she is a political leader taken captive because the setting is that of wartime

+chasem007ify stop living in a delusional fantasy world with regressive radical feminist thinking

I don't think Mulan passed the Bechdel test. She talks exclusively to men about being a man.

Actually it does - she talks to her mum about the notes on her arm, and then argues with the matchmaker a few times. It's not much, but considering she spends most of the film in an all-male army, it's not bad.

Mulan is kind of like a reverse of the male protagonist that the speaker talked about now that I think about it. She defeated the enemy and got the guy.

Mulan is my favourite movie of all time, i know every word by heart and I love it to death. Yes, she pretends to be a man and is surrounded by them, but it's not her gained manly strength or the male support she got that defeated the huns, it's her brain and mind. And she is far from perfect. Unpunctional, not shy or subservient, sloppy and outgoing. But she is strong, supporting, friendly, respectful, clever, considerate, ambitious and humble. In the end, it's a woman who leads professional soldiers and wins and gets an offer to work for the emperor, but she doesn't forget her roots and becomes blinded by success, that's why she goes back to her family to support them. Mulan is better than perfect (:

And yet he did mention Brave (ie the image behind him). Merida was a TERRIBLE role model for girls (and boys). She was greedy, selfish and so stubborn that she almost 'killed' her mum... I really, really, really, really hope that my girls DON'T turn out like her.

Oofer Doofer this entire video is a piece of crap

It's a start.

Same x"d

i cant say its "wisdom" when he is saying that boys should watch disney princesses instead of starwars. especially how disney princesses now in days are always showing that men are fat and or stupid.

88pie88 It isn't just Disney princesses. He isn't saying to stop watching anything, but show the type of people that kids, more importantly sons, should be supporting and on their team. Because, though feminine praise is good, girls are such a heavy topic now-a-days that sometimes we forget to teach the boys. Both need to know how to live in this world without looking at gender roles, resorting to violence, being the solo act. Learning to look at a person based on, not what they are, but who they are.

Dahlia Diaz gender roles are a thing of the past since the 80's sister. Women who want to take care of there family by establishing a house hold of culture is long gone. That is no longer a problem, rejoice. The violence thing is a family problem, not a boys or even mans problem. If they had parents who properly educated them on how to treat women they would of never thought of raising a hand to anyone let alone a woman. Since both parents are working, the kids are baby sat by the TV, or trashy teenagers, and get neglected and abused. My first move i watched when i was 2. terminator 2. it just came out, and i loved it, and still do. I was raised on watching action and cow boy movies. Not once i ever thought on hurting anyone but imaginary bad guys and Indians in my backyard. Want to get rid of violent men? make sure a parent is at home teaching them values. can be man or woman who cares, but why do we need to live in a society where we have to compete with our partner financially?

+88pie88 Those were gender roles of the "ideal" era of American history. They may not be the same for today in our modern age, but they are still present. Girls like pink and pretty, boys like blue and action. And both you and I know that isn't the case with all children, but if you like at the "girl" or "boy" clothes and toy section, that's all you see. The same with men and women with how they are suppost to look. Women are to have a look of slim, curvy, sexy. Men are to look strong, clean, and handsome. Both are pressured to keep a certain image and that there is the meaning of gender roles. Look, I don't want to cause conflict, this video was to give information and do with it as you please and I will say the same about my comments to you. I hope you can be open-minded, my friend, because this will be the last I reply to you. Good day.

can't make a debate? typical modern-femafacists.

Filippo Sala I am sorry, what does "fan-service" mean?

Filippo Sala Oh, like the huge breasts and the super tight clothes and stuff... Got it, thank you!

Rand Knight Well yes, it is, obviously, but we were not talking about that. Just defining fan-service.

That's because Japan's problem is more about sexualizing school girls than not wanting female leaders in their media

it depends on the genre. Some of the most sexualized females in Anime occur in the Shoujo (girl's manga) genre. As for female leaders, again, depends on the genre and the story, but two series that feature female leaders that I can think of are the Crest Of The Stars series (a character driven tale of a young princess finding her place in her world- and the leader of her world is a Queen- her grandmother) lots of women in power in that series. Another is the classic manga/anime Full Metal Alchemist- many of the women featured in the series are soldiers- the highest ranking solider featured in the story is a female Major General- and she is feared by damn near everyone who encounters her.

Bravo Sir. I salute you.

Finally someone said it! It's quite depressing how your comment got so little likes. It shows that no one want to listen to anything that has to do with masculinity. This lecture felt like shaming masculinity and glorifying femininity. I don't doubt most people who watched and liked this are man hating feminist.

Wait did you really listen to the Ted talk? He is saying that he wants both of his children regardless of their gender to have rolemodels with (for example) leadership qualities (Glinda and Obi-Wan), which is a tradionally male trait. And he points out that strong female characters are underrepresented, especially in media targeted towards boys, while strong male characters can be found in almost every movie. His second concern was that boys could learn that they have to fight or be violent to get what they want. It's not a double standard that he started to analyse what his kids were both watching simultaneously aka Star Wars.

_just breathe_ But he didn't want his son to watch Star Wars, even though it is a U RATED (AS IN APPROPRIATE FOR ALL AGES) Film.

@@carlosalmonacid8958 Just because a movie is technically for all ages doesn't mean it's something a three year old should watch. Some 9 year olds I know have not watched some of the Star Wars movies because they thought they were to scary. Every child is different. Some children don't even have a big enough attention span at that age or the parents simply don't want their children to watch a lot of TV at that age. It wasn't because he tried to differentiate between his children based on gender. He just criticised the movie he didn't try to force his children not to like it. If he did he probably wouldn't have bought his son so much Star Wars merch.

I agree, but Im not sure I would let young kids play that game haha.

Yeah, kids would totally suck at that game.

LifeIsABeach3210 Teens maybe...I certainly admire Ellie

She's a great character for sure

yes Ellie is a great example of a strong female character. Too bad the game would give most children nightmares.

You know this was released 2013 and inside out was released 2015

Slayers (an anime back in 90's) passed the Bechtel test like it was nothing.

yup! since this video was released, pixar has made a couple great films that pass.

Yeah inside out is pretty awesome

The Bechdel test is bullshit. I love Inside Out, but that test does not prove any work respects females. You could have a film 100% about cooking or shopping or some other stereotypically girly thing where all the female characters are idiots and it would pass the test because they have a conversation about shoes instead of boyfriends.

It's not that she was incapable or anything. She just had a fraction of the screen time Luke got, of which she had another female around like... one minute or what? And even that isn't to say Star Wars is a bad movie bc it doesn't focus more on Leia and/or other females. No, it's a great one in many ways. It's just that there are so many (other) more or less male-centered (top) movies compared to the female-centered ones that it raises a concern about the possible (biased) effects to our views.

LUKE IS THE GOD DAMN MAIN CHARACTER

They never see "equality" unless the male characters are pathetic parodies of masculinity, and the female character are inhumanly perfect.

Not to mention she was a Galactic Senator, Royal Leader of Alderaan AND a general of The Rebellion

Actually, Leia took the lead of his own rescue mission, because in the movie, Han, Luke and Chewie were too lost to know what to do. It was a "men have muscles, women have brains" moment. Leia is a better female role model than Rey will ever be.

he have terrible message, all he is saying is turn women in to man and man in to women.

Lmao tbh...

@@bullseye6969 rethink that buddy, he did not say that.

No to the first part, yes to the second. Haha.

@Alexander Covi What would be the good in that? Men can have movies just for them teaching them to be men; women can have movies catered to them teaching them to be women. Why make things equal when having the genders "specialize" in their respective roles has worked so well for so long? I think it's a really beautiful thing.

But they still have to much violence in them for this dumb sucker.

***** And the Wizard of OZ is about a pair of women squabbling over a pair of shoes. All media, even modern media, fails the test of equality.

***** Thats not entitlement its a fictional love story. Feminists and women get upset over EVERYTHING about women. You know what, at least leia acted like a princess. Disney princesses these days dont even act like princesses. And women complain that men aren't chivalrous and dont treat them like princesses.

@Quinn Dang So I'm entitled if I expect a wink and a medal for saving a galaxy!?

One can also compare Wizard of Oz to Hansel and Gretel, where kids own their agency and burn a witch alive (and it is also at least a fairy tale to fairy tale comparison). But you would never hear a speaker ever say that? Or what about Red Riding Hood who guts an animal in revenge? Funny, how entire levels of comparison and symbology can be ignored in trying to create a narrative that only loosely links to morality for thunderous applause of a crowd that mostly is more likely to have forgotten everything you said a week later? Or in trying to use whimsical fairy tales and fictitious sci-fi epics as some sort of real-life leadership or management analogy or case study, considering that both are open to subjective interpretation that doesn't mean anything/can mean anything that anyone can possibly read into it, even if viewpoints can possibly contradict each other?

Also, if you look at the screen tests George Lucas did for Leia, he chose Carrie Fisher because she portrayed her as a strong leader. You see that throughout the original trilogy. She's a leader on Hoth and further on. She fought on the ground in the Battle of Endor. She may have been a princess, but she was a military leader too.

Thats not being a man thats being a strong person regardless of gender